Talking in the Library Series 1 - Martin Amis

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Clive James

Clive James

Күн бұрын

Martin Amis has achieved such celebrity as a stylish icon of his age-group that the coverage in the media threatens to cloud the picture of his clean-edged originality as a master of the English sentence, of which he has reinvented every part while further focussing its melody and rhythm. Celebrated among his friends as one of the great talkers at the lunch table, he has rarely enjoyed talking on television, which he finds intolerably artificial. But when he talks in my library, with a drink and a roll-up to hand, it's a different matter.

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@desssval
@desssval Жыл бұрын
After reading and watching him in such interviews over the years, I now feel as if I have lost a friend. RIP
@juliovillagran4105
@juliovillagran4105 2 жыл бұрын
Love how they can jump from topic to topic seamlessly. They don't skip a beat.
@andrewmcleod1684
@andrewmcleod1684 Ай бұрын
It’s heavily edited you slob
@josephasghar
@josephasghar Жыл бұрын
It occurs to me that MA never seems more content than in the company of other writers. This is a delicious half hour.
@valery.2524
@valery.2524 Жыл бұрын
RIP Martin Amis.
@mosca3289
@mosca3289 Жыл бұрын
Farewell to an old and better world
@KitCalder
@KitCalder 3 жыл бұрын
21:00 The little nod and "I'll settle for that" delivered in pure Hitchens style.
@jonharrison9222
@jonharrison9222 2 ай бұрын
Or Amis. You do know he, Clive and others had a regular literary lunch at the Bursa Kebab House, don’t you?
@DuaneJasper
@DuaneJasper 4 жыл бұрын
This is just an excellent and charming conversation
@sibengerard1856
@sibengerard1856 3 жыл бұрын
''Style is an expression of perception''
@scottca9780
@scottca9780 Күн бұрын
Imagine in a time when intelligent discourse had a place on television
@hamiltool
@hamiltool 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this up. CJ really is the person that speaks to me most directly.
@horacesinclair1861
@horacesinclair1861 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how many mannerisms he shares here with C Hitchens. They do say that people begin to behave like each other when they spend time together.
@Johnconno
@Johnconno Жыл бұрын
They really were Very close, d'you follow me?
@loraineszatai5384
@loraineszatai5384 Жыл бұрын
They both died of esophageal cancer 😔
@nickolette22
@nickolette22 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for uploading this series!
@user-ue7wu2dh4o
@user-ue7wu2dh4o 3 жыл бұрын
Loved it. Thanks for posting this.
@douglasmilton2805
@douglasmilton2805 3 жыл бұрын
Greatly enjoyed this, especially when they talk about Larkin. A certain amount of eye-rolling exasperation (inevitably, given Larkin) but ultimately love and respect for a great poet. And a complete absence of the rancour which seems to be becoming almost compulsory these days.
@nilkilnilkil
@nilkilnilkil 3 жыл бұрын
Really need to listen to this next time ...
@robertblakeman9978
@robertblakeman9978 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@ricardocima
@ricardocima 3 жыл бұрын
Come on, Celine's "Voyage" is amazing.
@jillwalker925
@jillwalker925 3 жыл бұрын
in North Face Of Soho clive james describes the weekly meeting of wits in london which he launched and where amis was king wit. in this conversation the two, many years later, are still competing - naming names and quoting like mad. james seems a bit pissed - keeping up and, characteristically, showing off his erudition. it may be as close as we'll get to seeing what those weekly 1970's brainfests were like.
@jonharrison9222
@jonharrison9222 2 ай бұрын
They had three beers before lunch each on a working day and leered at passing women.
@MorphingReality
@MorphingReality 3 жыл бұрын
this is good stuff thanks
@juliovillagran4105
@juliovillagran4105 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell that Amis hung around Hitchens alot. They have similar mannerisms.
@Johnconno
@Johnconno Жыл бұрын
Nabokov and Vidal imitations.
@Brandon-tk2rw
@Brandon-tk2rw Ай бұрын
@Johnconno That's the sort of thing that a dumb person would say when trying to appear smart
@Brandon-tk2rw
@Brandon-tk2rw Ай бұрын
@juliovillagran4105 Do you read the dictionary a lot?
@sue.F
@sue.F 5 ай бұрын
Admire both writers! I like that Amis defends Borges from James’ attack on his character and supposed complicity (“Cultural Amnesia”) indeed, he was much more forgiving of his fellow writers than James. Today, we can only imagine two blokes publicly guffawing at the fellatio scene in “Portnoy’s Complaint”, how ironic they then moved on to the subject of censorship.
@grai
@grai 11 ай бұрын
what year was this?
@G58
@G58 3 жыл бұрын
So many Hitch mannerisms in the Amis boy. But who influenced who? Both are great observers. Which one was the climber? It seems reasonable to find Amis innocent in this matter. Perhaps the more interesting question is which one deployed the resulting charm to greatest visual effect. Amis is deep and encyclopaedic. Hitch was more visible, and arguably more watchable.
@juliovillagran4105
@juliovillagran4105 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say Hitch was encyclopaedic himself.
@d.mavridopoulos66
@d.mavridopoulos66 2 жыл бұрын
I think Hitchens was more erudite than Amis. In his 'Inside story', Amis recounts with admiration how the Hitch gave him an impromptu lecture, on the origins of the first world war, starting his exposition with the battle of Kosovo in 1389. There's a wonderful essay by Hitch entitled 'Lightness at Midnight', were he implies that Amis's reading was deficient in the general area of Stalinist Communism, and even instances a couple of books. Also Hitch was superior in the way he summoned and marshalled facts, to deploy them effectively in an argument.
@jonharrison9222
@jonharrison9222 2 ай бұрын
And Clive took apart Hitchens’ quaint insistence that all would have been fine had Lenin lived.
@annebarrett3649
@annebarrett3649 Ай бұрын
I read this differently. There's always got to room for flexibility and not being always right. which one was willing to grow and change and which one developed into a misguided opiniate who got some serious political matters horribly wrong 😅
@geraldinemcgowan2385
@geraldinemcgowan2385 Ай бұрын
style gone mad....
@patriciaatkinson2435
@patriciaatkinson2435 3 жыл бұрын
I fear for the youth of Hong Kong. They really believed in the righteous power of democracy and the right to be free. And they believed the West would share their indignation and assertiveness. How they must be suffering.
@G58
@G58 3 жыл бұрын
They may be the last true resisters. But if the rumours are true that they were funded by Soros (as is often apparently the case), then they were set up as mere entertainment for the psychopathic elites, and ultimately as a lesson for the rest of us. This all began on the public stage when Kissinger met Mao in 1972. They’ve had us all sliding down the gift chute into China ever since. Peace, until THEY make the alternative inevitable
@chadm9192
@chadm9192 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what year this is? Mid 90s some time...
@genericusername4453
@genericusername4453 Жыл бұрын
2001, I think
@LordOishi
@LordOishi 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone list the Russian authors they were talking about in the beginning?
@LordOishi
@LordOishi 3 жыл бұрын
@hoop loopooiikk thanks man 🤝
@vindolanda6974
@vindolanda6974 Жыл бұрын
I never knew fellatio and rococo are pronounced like that. Wonderful discussion.
@arthurriordan5760
@arthurriordan5760 Жыл бұрын
They aren't
@joek6729
@joek6729 Жыл бұрын
@@arthurriordan5760 they are, in Italy
@paulconnelly4050
@paulconnelly4050 6 ай бұрын
It's upto you. I've always pronounced it like fell-eh-shio
@geraldinemcgowan2385
@geraldinemcgowan2385 Ай бұрын
james lived to 80 yo. amis only 73.
@blankversefilms6840
@blankversefilms6840 5 жыл бұрын
Quite talkers both of them are.
@Peshur
@Peshur 4 жыл бұрын
There not brain dead OMG! hyperbolic Americans mate.
@jonharrison9222
@jonharrison9222 2 ай бұрын
That is how interviews normally work, yes…
@Velvet0Starship2013
@Velvet0Starship2013 6 жыл бұрын
Moments of this sound like Dudley Moore and Peter Cooke doing "Martin (not Derek) and Clive"...
@Clydesider711
@Clydesider711 6 жыл бұрын
Does Clive mention Jayne Mansfield and lobsters at any point?
@yellowdog1078
@yellowdog1078 4 жыл бұрын
Had exactly this thought.
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 3 жыл бұрын
Larkin will be remembered, that’s the difference here - after all the ltut-tutting.
@lizziebkennedy7505
@lizziebkennedy7505 Жыл бұрын
Caring about injustice, cruelty and hypocrisy? Never stopped us loving TS Eliot. But the cruelty, ignorance and bigotry does greatly diminish Larkin. It's an astonishing gap in his sometimes extraordinary imagination. Those who reduce it to tut-tutting miss the whole point of literature. He'll always be best known for the contradiction.
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 Жыл бұрын
@@lizziebkennedy7505 It does not diminish him at all to some of us - so stop speaking from your prurient, tame little perch of sanctimonious conformity, woman.
@jonharrison9222
@jonharrison9222 2 ай бұрын
@@lizziebkennedy7505 You would have to be fairly asinine to think the venting in Larkin’s letters affects the poems.
@Alberiana
@Alberiana 6 жыл бұрын
Clive James needs to fucking interview himself and not waste anyone else's time.
@Johnconno
@Johnconno Жыл бұрын
My Struggle. 😂
@andrewmcleod1684
@andrewmcleod1684 Ай бұрын
That both of these supposed literary giants didn’t read Voyage au bout de la nuit is both ridiculous and cowardly
@charlespeterson3798
@charlespeterson3798 6 жыл бұрын
OH GAWD. I'll shut up.
@charlespeterson3798
@charlespeterson3798 6 жыл бұрын
Not that I give a flying F#CK, but what was the remark by James on Borges and the context. He goes from some a lickspittle in Russia to Celine with some offhand slight with a Castilian accent for god's sake. Poor Argentina. Poor U.K.K.
@littlehammers9032
@littlehammers9032 Жыл бұрын
fellartio
@ianparker9231
@ianparker9231 Жыл бұрын
He took his father's opinion very much on board, maybe too much. That you don't mimic the pronunciation of other languages if you're speaking English.
@littlehammers9032
@littlehammers9032 Жыл бұрын
@@ianparker9231 but in doing so, is entirely mispronouncing the word...thus making him look rather silly billy in the process.
@pythonslab3963
@pythonslab3963 Жыл бұрын
Martin references this in his memoir Experience funnily enough. That his Father always used to pronounce words in a rather peculiar way that as kids they could never understand. One day they asked Kingsley and he talked about not relying on spelling pronunciation and instead speaking words according to their natural rhythms. He considered it the posh or upper-class way of speaking. Martin does his too, a great deal.
@CaldonianBoar
@CaldonianBoar 6 ай бұрын
The idea of a man of Amis' accomplishments critiquing a man of Joyce's is laughable.
@QwidgyboMan
@QwidgyboMan 5 ай бұрын
By that standard who is permitted to criticise a titan such as Joyce? Perhaps half a dozen are on his level and they're all dead.
@HkFinn83
@HkFinn83 3 ай бұрын
@@QwidgyboManyeh that was a bizarre comment. By that logic there’d be no such thing as criticism
@Arareemote
@Arareemote 2 ай бұрын
​@@QwidgyboManAnd many of them also viewed Joyce's 'masterpieces' unfavourably. Evelyn Waugh, Aldous Huxley spring to mind first, even Nabokov another great stylist, but I would need to reconfirm his views as it's been awhile.
@googleisgay3289
@googleisgay3289 Жыл бұрын
Nadezhda Mandelshdam never wrote a good book. I disagree.
@richardsmegma5081
@richardsmegma5081 18 күн бұрын
The smugness is off the scale!
@GramscisCat
@GramscisCat 5 жыл бұрын
Jeez, awful jumped up creeps.
@ListenToBigFace
@ListenToBigFace 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’ve always preferred your work too
@jonharrison9222
@jonharrison9222 2 ай бұрын
Waiting for your collected works sometime soon.
@charlespeterson3798
@charlespeterson3798 5 жыл бұрын
Cannot do it. James puts Borges and Celine in the same sentence, before or after they scooped half his brain out? As for Amis, always the lowest form of wit..."My father". He is the librarian. Ah well.
@ListenToBigFace
@ListenToBigFace 5 жыл бұрын
Chill out Charles
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