Talking insomnia #51: "I was OBSESSED with sleep!" How Laura found peace of mind.

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3 жыл бұрын

After a period of simmering anxiety related to the lockdown and a new job, a wisdom tooth extraction resulted in two sleepless nights and a trip down the insomnia rabbit hole. After three months of intense struggling, during which she was never present for her loved ones, Laura found a path to peace of mind.
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• Success stories
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• Playlist
Talking insomnia - guests with trouble sleeping or experts share their stories / tips.
• Talking insomnia
Hypnic jerks, hypnic awareness and other common issues.
• Hypnic jerks and more.
Fatal insomnia - for those concerned about ffi and sfi.
• Familial and sporadic ...
The self coaching model
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@1timbarrett 4 ай бұрын

What a relief to learn I’m not the only human on the planet who finds ACT too passive for my personality. On the topic of INDIVIDUAL PERSONALITY, thank you, Laura, for inspiring me to give my insomnia a name. Thanks also to you both for putting Dr. Claire Weekes’ name out there; IMO her work has been under-valued for far too long. 😘 😘 😘 😘 😘 ‼️

@michelleweil6672 3 жыл бұрын

Incredible interview! Thank you for sharing your story Laura. So impactful! Especially love the discussion on how sometimes these things happen because the current way we are relating to ourselves (anxiety, being critical) is not sustainable or how we want to be, and it can take something intense like insomnia to make us look into this and begin to change these patterns and develop more self kindness ❤️

@Laura-br6qf 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Michelle, Thanks so much for the kind comment! Its been quite the journey but been very grateful for what I have learnt (and for this channel!) :)

@stinkygrunkie 2 жыл бұрын

about a month ago i found what i now know was laura's reddit post about this! she says much of the same stuff. that post has given me a lot of comfort over the month. thanks laura!

@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын

😊

@hugotielen 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic interview! Really enjoyed the good vibe 😃

@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Hugo!! I really enjoyed this talk and I think it brought so much value to the channel 😁

@silviabusby6628 2 жыл бұрын

Great interview Laura and Daniel i recognized doing everything to be in control of the sleep I agree with you Laura about guy meadows book part of Trying to focus my thoughts and anxiety was to much for me and give me more fear that I wasn’t dring it good been more aware made me more obese with my sleep 24 hours a day still struggling but now not giving my thoughts to much attention !

@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын

Super glad this made sense! And 100%, it’s such a paradox sometimes how when we focus on something it for some people can lead to letting go, but it often leads in the opposite direction. There’s no ideal way I think is the teaching point… but when you find you’re not giving thoughts so much attention, well you’ve found your way!

@silviabusby6628 2 жыл бұрын

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 thanks Daniel I received your book today set it and forget it am very excited I feel it’s going to be helpful 🙏🏽

@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын

Anytime! Hope you’ll find much value there 😊!

@rochellelooney1220 2 жыл бұрын

@@silviabusby6628 can you give me the title of the book , I’m just new in here . My first day of watching this channel.

@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын

The sleep book. Welcome to the channel 🤗

@tezagg4007 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Laura my name is Terry and I to am from Melbourne. I have been struggling with chronic insomnia for over 20 yesrs. Are you in any Facebook groups where you talk about more about your journey? It's currently 5 am here now and again I can't sleep so I have steeped out of bed and taken a tablet ( I only take a tablet if it's urgent and I have a big day the next day.) I wish we had more support groups in Melbourne for sleep.i currently do on and off again CBTI therapy but I really don't feel it helps too much.

@quickpstuts412 2 жыл бұрын

Daniel, I was wondering if you have any insight into the connection between insomnia and generalized anxiety. Seems a lot of people like myself who had/have insomnia already have a underlying issue with generalized worry. That seems to be what keeps the insomnia cycle going.

@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын

Hi! Yes, I think all suffering comes from the same place, us trying to avoid uncomfortable emotions or thoughts or experiences

@thomasthrall3567 2 жыл бұрын

Daniel, I’m a follower of your channel, read all your books and am practicing your principles. One thing I’d like to hear a lot more about is how to deal with the fatigue / daytime sleepiness, how to get through the day when your exhausted. I wouldn’t mind staying up all night and embracing being awake but I know how crummy I will feel the next day. What strategies can we use to get through the day?? Tom

@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Thomas, thanks for the support 🙂 we have a playlist on unrefreshing sleep that can help!

@heidisaldana8422 Жыл бұрын

I have the same question and can’t find the playlist about unrefreshing sleep

@thesleepcoachschool8192 Жыл бұрын

Here it is: kzfaq.info/sun/PL6RQ1GS7B1cje9e66guVo6BsSF-glS8c7

@heidisaldana8422 Жыл бұрын

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 thank you SO much!!

@brittanyspears8896 Жыл бұрын

Also Daniel, what is your take on prescription medication for sleep? My doctor suggested I start Mirtazapine during the learning and therapy process. Stating that it is often hard for people to move forward with therapy and learning tools if they aren’t sleeping at night. I originally was prescribed gabapentin for a month since my sleep anxiety started, but that quickly wore off and I am back to only sleeping 3-4 hours each night. Any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated

@thesleepcoachschool8192 Жыл бұрын

Hi Brittany, I think anything we do with the intent to make it more okay that we are awake at night, whatever makes it easier to not sleep, to feel anxious… it can help much

@brittanyspears8896 Жыл бұрын

Hi Daniel, is there a way to reach out to Laura directly and ask her questions about her recovery and the program? As her story seems to be the most identical to mine in terms of time frame and of how she became obsessed with sleep during the day. I would truly love to pick her brain and receive advice if possible

@thesleepcoachschool8192 Жыл бұрын

Hi Brittany, this is then way to get in touch with guests, many check the comments and may reply..

@uniquelyshantay 3 жыл бұрын

Hey! Thank you for providing good info as always. Are u familiar with hypnagogia?

@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын

Anytime!! I’m familiar with hypnagogic as in related to the process of falling asleep... where you perhaps thinking of the hallucinations that sometimes happen then?

@uniquelyshantay 3 жыл бұрын

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 Yes & sleepy and wakefulness = hypnagogia. I think I'm dealing with that. I was wondering if it was the same process to decrease it just like the other sleep issues discussed on your channel?

@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын

Hi! I would say that everything I talk about here, insomnia, sleep-wake transition events, hyperarousal, anxiety, all the teaching applies to all of them yes!!

@uniquelyshantay 3 жыл бұрын

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 Oh ok, Thank you.

@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын

You got it!

@dominikaolejniczak2985 3 жыл бұрын

Hello I am struggling to fall asleep, when I feel I'm driffting off suddenly there is this fear and I can hear my heart pounding so strong and I get anxious and can' t sleep for hours. It's very difficult to calm down my anxiety. And the worst fear is that if I don't sleep I will get sick or my brain will get damaged and I will die soon. Then I get tired after some days and I manage to let go of the fear and I sleep really well for some days. And then it all comes back for another nights and it is really frustrating , I don't know why this cycle repeats itself. I just feel I don't control it!

@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Dominika, sorry to hear this but glad you found the channel. You know, one of the most tricky things is that the more we try to control sleep or thoughts or emotions, the more stuck and anxious we get. When we take steps away from control, that’s where we find wellness and peace of mind. Thoughts and emotions have very specific practical purposes. They are actually fleeting at baseline. Imagine a squirrel that sees a car coming this way. He becomes really scared and runs away. But even if it’s on a different street it starts eating on a nut! It literally nearly died but now it’s eating seamingly happy! This is kind of a silly example but it just shows that emotions such as fear or anxiety have that practical purpose of taking us to safety. But when we are safe, those emotions dissolve if not kept in place by ongoing thoughts! The difference between us and a squirrel is that we are Homo sapiens sapiens, we are man who can think about our thoughts. We can start to think that things like thoughts and emotions are wrong and that they shouldn’t be there. And when we try to get away from them, they stick around. The reason for example that so many people say that they cannot shut off the brain is that they’re looking for a switch. In other words again, thoughts and emotions are fleeting except when we try to stop them or control them. So as tricky as it is, it is when you allow any thoughts to happen without judgment and just sort of tuning into them without doing anything - that is when they become fleeting again because you’re not trying to stop them. Hope this helps and let us know how things go!!

@dominikaolejniczak2985 3 жыл бұрын

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 thank you very much for your answer! Yes I know what you mean, because when I finally let go after days of struggle, I can sleep and my anxiety is not so strong. But then something happens like I have to wake up very early to take my children to school and I can feel the tension and pressure to get enough sleep and all that vicious cycle comes back. And by the way I have a controlling personality, I know it is futile but I would like to have everything under control in my life and of course as you say, sleep is not something you can control by will. And I am trying, trying to let go, really but there is also this fear of getting sick or having a serious health problem if I don't sleep because everybody says so! Do you think that when I eventually sleep my body compensates for the days of poor sleep and restores any possible damage? Well I know I'm seeking reassurance... but I feel like I need it.

@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Dominika, it’s such an important realization that sleep happens a when you let go! This doesn’t automatically translate into letting go easily, but it shows the path. And you know, there’s no evidence that insomnia causes any type of damage or health issues, so nothing to recover from! This I think really is important reassurance!

@dominikaolejniczak2985 3 жыл бұрын

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 thank youuuu! ♥️♥️

@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын

Anytime!!

@lillianyoukhana8451 11 ай бұрын

Hi I am post-partum almost 3 months and struggling. Doctor wants to prescribe zyprexa and gabapentin

@thesleepcoachschool8192 11 ай бұрын

Hang in there Lillian, many have been where you are. This playlist I think can be really helpful for you: kzfaq.info/sun/PL6RQ1GS7B1chwai9WPUngyfUs7j4w0e1F

@1timbarrett 4 ай бұрын

Sorry to sound so negative, but does your doctor realise that NO robust study exists showing that these drugs are healthful for you or you and your baby…? 🤔 Congratulations btw on your “new” baby, who must be about two years old now…! 👏 👍 🎉

@sujanithtottempudi2991 3 жыл бұрын

Are you aware of modius sleep device?

@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын

Oh yes I’ve heard about it! It was developed as a weight loss device and then this got pivoted to sleep. I think there are a million things that have some impact on how we sleep, but insomnia, that struggle and frustration and pondering and anxiety - that comes from thought habits and the key lies in learning and changing habits... Have you tried it?

@sujanithtottempudi2991 3 жыл бұрын

@@thesleepcoachschool8192 modius Looks promising.want to buy. I m better now with my insomnia ...but there are days it comes back maybe once in 15days

@thesleepcoachschool8192 3 жыл бұрын

I’m super happy to read you’re doing better! There’s no doubt in my mind that this is thanks to you learning and changing some habits. With or without the device I’m sure you’ll sleep better as you continue the path you’re on!

@rochellelooney1220 2 жыл бұрын

I got it but I don’t use it because I’m taking sleeping pills and I don’t know if it works for me. I don’t know

@thesleepcoachschool8192 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Rochelle, You know what, nothing in the universe can make us sleep except our own bodies. And experimenting with gadgets can be quite confusing. I think what really helps is education. When you understand, then things get much easier. Check out the This is Natto snd success stories playlists in the description of any new video 👍