Talking to Muslims About Christ | Mohammed Hijab & Jonathan Pageau | EP 297

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Jordan B Peterson

Jordan B Peterson

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Dr Jordan B Peterson, Jonathan Pageau, and Mohammed Hijab discuss comparative religion, what is said about Islam versus what Islam has to say, and how the uncomfortable conversation - whether contentious or unnerving, is well worth having.
Mohammed Hijab is an author, comparative religionist, and philosopher of scripture. He is the co-founder of the Sapience Institute and is a researcher and instructor for the organization. He has a BA in Politics and a master’s degree in History. He has also acquired a second master’s in Islamic Studies from the School of Oriental and African Studies, as well as a third master’s degree in Applied Theology from the University of Oxford. Currently, he is working toward his PhD in Philosophy of Religion. Having completed Islamic seminary courses, he is one of very few Muslims who has been given formal permission to relay Islamic knowledge on selected Islamic fields, dealing with comparative, political, and theological issues. In his efforts, he has amassed a substantial following on KZfaq, aided in part by authoring books such as “The Scientific Deception of the New Atheists.”
Jonathan Pageau is a French-Canadian liturgical artist and icon carver, known for his work featured in museums across the world. He carves Eastern Orthodox and other traditional images and teaches an online carving class. He also runs a KZfaq channel dedicated to the exploration of symbolism across history and religion.
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(1:12) Intro
(4:16) Addressing “Message to Muslims”
(14:35) Colonial amnesia and the pattern of resentment
(15:19) Egyptian mythology and the bloodshed of the past
(21:49) Ignoring the voices of disunity
(27:53) Is there an ultimate purpose to life?
(35:42) The role of worship and ritual
(39:52) Unity is not the same as uniformity
(43:20) Belief at your own peril, deviation, and depression
(50:55) Islam recognizes Jesus, but not the son of god
(59:16) We don’t know what we don’t know
(1:08:40) Belief in word vs. belief in being
(1:10:17) Why do we connect with specific scripture?
(1:23:25) You are measured by how much you can endure
(1:26:01) Would Jordan Peterson consider becoming Muslim?
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@angelexterminatus9784
@angelexterminatus9784 Жыл бұрын
I`d like to thank my dad for busting my balls to learn english at the age of 8, because without that, I would have never gotten to experience conversations and knowledge like this.
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8
@rayzimmerman6740
@rayzimmerman6740 Жыл бұрын
@@hannawurst6064 Pauls letters to all and sunder, are not Christ speaking. Please let that sink in, and reflect.
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
My friend don'tplay ignorant !! Because the fact is that the Koran writer didn't even know what Christians believe in! And if Paul1or anotherhas corruptet the Bible in the 1st century or not, it doesn't change the fact that according to the Koran Allah has no idea about Christianity and that in the 7th century!!!
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
*Peter the apostle of Jesus himself confirms Paul's writings as Holy Scriptures!* 2 Peter 3:15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.
@nested9301
@nested9301 Жыл бұрын
@@hannawurst6064 really ng
@workhard0807
@workhard0807 Жыл бұрын
Its amazing how much more effective talks like this are without an audience interrupting every 5 seconds
@srinivasaraorao1043
@srinivasaraorao1043 Жыл бұрын
It mean that when you appling logic mean itself you don't have holy sprit leading in you then it is difficult to understand God mahamad
@rohanrahman8138
@rohanrahman8138 Жыл бұрын
@@srinivasaraorao1043 Your understanding of Islam like a baby who understands science at the age of two. By the way We muslims don't believe Muhammed (S.A.W) is a God.
@hulchul8891
@hulchul8891 Жыл бұрын
@@rohanrahman8138 : Muhammad is not God but he came from the devil 👿. Muhammad is presently in hell and burning. Jesus Christ is King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Jesus Christ will judge on judgment day. Allah is a pagan moon god of the Kabba.
@rohanrahman8138
@rohanrahman8138 Жыл бұрын
​@@hulchul8891 Where did you get this information? CNN or Whatsapp University 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣? In today's world, education is very important, as I just realised from your comment. So have some coffee and read some books on Islam. I hope you listen for your own benefit.
@deborahstafford8850
@deborahstafford8850 Жыл бұрын
The “West” compared to what?? No “faith” on this planet damages or threatens freedom more than Islam. That’s my opinion and I’m ALLOWED to have it!!!! I’m not a person of ANY faith but can understand and support the opposition to it all!! Why are we still talking about this?!?. OMG!!!! Recognize our condition!!! Stop relating this to RELIGION!!! Please don’t speak of the problems humans have without considering the origin???…EMERGENCE of CONSCIOUSNESS???? !!!!!
@tomjosi742
@tomjosi742 5 ай бұрын
i had to google some of those words that Dr. Peterson was using. The way he was constructing his thoughts and finding the right words was quite amazing. It's better to listen to him for hours than to waste your time in nonsense stuffs that people talk which they they don't believe and also don't help you to grow as an individual. I was little disappointed in how the talk ended abruptly without the conclusion of his ideas. Thank you for captivating me in this hour and half talk without diverting my eyes elsewhere.
@maconis1
@maconis1 16 күн бұрын
He's a goat! So flawless in his articulation.
@MicBreezeOfficial
@MicBreezeOfficial 4 ай бұрын
One of the most powerful conversations I've ever gotten to listen to. Thank you!
@alainmaitre2069
@alainmaitre2069 Ай бұрын
Are you theistic or not ?
@BreDawg714
@BreDawg714 Жыл бұрын
I am a uneducated American currently residing temporary in Dublin Ireland and I have long conversations with Pakistanis, Brazilians, Greeks,Romanians, YOU NAME IT! Point being most people from anywhere around the planet are willing to have interesting conversations of respect and abundance. Never believe the social media hate and divide.
@fatumaadam3067
@fatumaadam3067 Жыл бұрын
True
@Truthseiker87
@Truthseiker87 Жыл бұрын
If you want to debate islam let me know ;)
@Ziiphyr
@Ziiphyr Жыл бұрын
@@Truthseiker87 Yeah why was Muhammad possessed by a Djinn and his wife’s cousin told him it was the Angel Gabriel? Why was he unsure about his salvation if he is a Prophet of God?
@serbannicolau3489
@serbannicolau3489 Жыл бұрын
Ok. Any klingon, lately?
@readquranandlearnaboutisla592
@readquranandlearnaboutisla592 Жыл бұрын
Right
@Irfan87
@Irfan87 Жыл бұрын
I love how Jordan is completely open to talking and trying to understand anyone. More discourse like this is needed. Finding common ground.
@angelmartinelli9983
@angelmartinelli9983 Жыл бұрын
They shouldn't be here
@Ibn_Abdulaziz
@Ibn_Abdulaziz Жыл бұрын
He says that he wants peace, but then goes on to storm Al-Aqsa compound with that robot sounding apartheid tribesmen creature. Rather what he wants is perennialism among Muslims and zionism for them. Did this interview happen before or after his storming of Al-Aqsa? Look up the video.
@Ibn_Abdulaziz
@Ibn_Abdulaziz Жыл бұрын
Also he was banned from twitter for annoying a girl that became a man right? So what does think of christianity that claims God became a man? Did God transition into an apartheid tribesmen creature? Is that why he stormed Al-Aqsa compound due to his belief that God belongs to the apartheid tribesmen's ethnicity?
@moaydDrawing1
@moaydDrawing1 Жыл бұрын
he isn't really open if he says he won't embrace islam even if he was provided with the evidence.
@moaydDrawing1
@moaydDrawing1 Жыл бұрын
@A.b.s how am I a troll?
@fikertadesse1915
@fikertadesse1915 5 ай бұрын
After years, I watched this conversation again and I loved it more and more like wine stays in the barrel. both guys help us to enlighten the calmness of wisdom beyond the subject they want to embrass
@janelouisebriggs2999
@janelouisebriggs2999 Ай бұрын
Constantly the muslim man is trying to convert Peterson whilst Jordan just wants an open conversation. Sooo much missunderstanding about the fig tree and Jesus. Oh how wonderful my Saviour is!!!
@ThoseRedPillGuys
@ThoseRedPillGuys 25 күн бұрын
There is a very reasonable explanation why Jesus cursed the fig tree even though it wasn’t the season for figs. Even before the season, fig trees produce little knobs which are eaten by a passerby. As the late renowned NT scholar F.F. Bruce noted: "The other miracle is the cursing of the barren fig tree (Mk. xi 12 ff.), a stumbling block to many. They feel that it is unlike Jesus, and so someone must have misunderstood what actually happened, or turned a spoken parable into an acted miracle, or something like that. Some, on the other hand, welcome the story because it shows that Jesus was human enough to get unreasonably annoyed on occasion. It appears, however, that a closer acquaintance with fig trees would have prevented such misunderstandings. ‘The time of the fig is not yet,’ says Mark, for it was just before Passover, about six weeks before the fully-formed fig appears. The fact that Mark adds these words shows that he knew what he was talking about. When the fig leaves appear about the end of March, they are accompanied by a crop of small knobs, called taqsh by the Arabs, a sort of fore-runner of the real figs. These taqsh are eaten by peasants and others when hungry. They drop off before the real fig is formed. But if the leaves appear unaccompanied by taqsh, there will be no figs that year. So it was evident to our Lord, when He turned aside to see if there were any of these taqsh on the fig-tree to assuage His hunger for the time being, that the absence of the taqsh meant that there would be no figs when the time of figs came. For all its fair foliage, it was a fruitless and a hopeless tree." (Bruce, Are The New Testament Documents Reliable? [Intervarsity Press; Downers Grove, Ill, fifth revised edition 1992], pp. 73-74; bold emphasis ours). Many people have already addressed the fig tree talking point of Muslims trying to refute Christians. Many have done this for hijab and his mates. He seemingly ignores it.
@xzss7029
@xzss7029 20 күн бұрын
Nah it’s the other way around also Peterson is a terrible person and has lost a lot of respect due to the give em hell tweet
@iAMnycedagod
@iAMnycedagod 19 күн бұрын
Atleast learn the person’s name
@ruthlessready1748
@ruthlessready1748 18 күн бұрын
@@xzss7029I’ll put my money on you being Muslim
@joekey8464
@joekey8464 12 күн бұрын
They got no clue about the Trinity..
@hitmanl520
@hitmanl520 11 ай бұрын
I love that line. “I’m not going to say I’m here for tolerance, because tolerance means I know better than you but I will tolerate you”
@annychest718
@annychest718 11 ай бұрын
Yes I agree..I love that too.. but we're expected to tolerate all kinds of ideas we don't agree with because we don't want to be perceived as dictators.. God wants us to come to him by knowledge not by force This discussion is very inspirational
@freddyzarby3715
@freddyzarby3715 10 ай бұрын
Other than you not better than you
@BS-cc4ks
@BS-cc4ks 10 ай бұрын
Honestly though...what's wrong with saying that? No one believes what they believe because they think they are wrong. I think it is impossible to assume that you know better then someone else that has different ideas then you if, having met their ideas, you reject them. Better to tolerate people you think are wrong. Better TO tell them they are wrong if asked about it! Be honest about the disagreements, and teach the world to not be offended by assumptions everyone makes.
@tbpp6553
@tbpp6553 10 ай бұрын
Who said that here?
@TheDeviousMatt
@TheDeviousMatt 10 ай бұрын
Timestamp?
@irfanazemi8073
@irfanazemi8073 Жыл бұрын
This is how a debate should unfold literally and not screaming and interrupting one another and not be able to speak, this is education at its finest, just beautiful for the ears.
@azaloth4168
@azaloth4168 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I noticed that only the people who know and are competent will debate without screaming at each other, but that's not always the case.
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
*here YHWH says in the Old Testament he is the son who was pierced in a prophecy! 6th century before Jesus Christ* Zechariah 12,10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit[1] of grace and supplication. They will look on[2] me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.
@rsk5660
@rsk5660 Жыл бұрын
@@hannawurst6064 And again another scripture says "They shall look on HIM whom they have pierced."
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
We see clearly! In John 19:37 "" "" You will look at the one you have pierced «" "" But you only look at one according to Zechariah 12:10 and that is YHWH !!! You only look at YHWH! So John 19:37 contradicts all newer versions of Zechariah 12:10 where another was pierced than YHWH !! YHWH speaks about this in Zechariah from his point of view and the apostles from the point of view of man! because you can see who you have pierced! And that's the one who says YOU LOOK AT ME !!! So the fact is YHWH says you look at ME !! And who are you looking at;). Exactly the one they pierced!
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
My friend according to textual criticism, the matter is clear! According to Zechariah, YHWH was pierced! because the Christian writings of Zechariah and the confirmation text in John are the oldest sources that exist!
@danpriest9299
@danpriest9299 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant talk, the world needs more of this, our religons have differences but it is possible to have healthly talks to further enlighten us all, god bless all 3 of you
@aaronpage8515
@aaronpage8515 15 күн бұрын
Don’t be fooled by the suit and tie. The majority of Muslims would support the Muslim right to enslave you, force you to convert, then kill you if you don’t. Islam isn’t the nexus of free speech and tolerance. Quite the opposite. It isn’t the religion of peace.
@markbolatete5325
@markbolatete5325 4 ай бұрын
By far one of the most tamed and finest conversations, and having Mohd Hijab behave is a sight to behold.
@ryojs4286
@ryojs4286 4 ай бұрын
^ Racist Translation: "Omg this brown ANIMAL is in a suit and a chair, now if only he could become a CIVILIZED CHRISTIAN CRUSADER NAZI He would have had my VOTTTTEEEEEE!"
@user-zx4ds8mt9b
@user-zx4ds8mt9b 3 ай бұрын
Understatement, about Hijab. Crude bugger😂
@Maynard-il1yj
@Maynard-il1yj 3 ай бұрын
Didn’t want to get Kathy Griffon’d
@TravelBandit
@TravelBandit 3 ай бұрын
Mohammad Hijab is a well-mannered and behaved individual, until provoked. You trying to paint him as something he honestly isnt. Not cool bro
@Maynard-il1yj
@Maynard-il1yj 3 ай бұрын
@@TravelBandit and then you twist what provocation is, either way his true color come out like everyone’s does when heat is in and it matters, uses his size to intimidate and his degrees to act knowing, but is a dunce., uses his own books has citations in debates lol 😂 just a salesman. Like many “religious me”?…. Dude goes places looking for fights, lol you’re trying to make him out to be something he ain’t.
@suelambert4153
@suelambert4153 Жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson is so open and humble. A man of integrity. Canadian government needs to appreciate and be proud of this man!
@Kirs..
@Kirs.. Жыл бұрын
Proud isn’t the best word, but yes they do need to appreciate who he is and what he has done. OR AT THE VERY LEAST give him some actual damn freedom of speech rights.
@-xDarkxGhostx-
@-xDarkxGhostx- Жыл бұрын
Luke 4 :24 And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.
@TS-zd2ud
@TS-zd2ud Жыл бұрын
It is very easy to refute Islam! Because the God of Islam does not know that according to Christianity God incarnated True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8
@kennethkimbroug8087
@kennethkimbroug8087 Жыл бұрын
@@-xDarkxGhostx- good thing I have my muckers on.........lol
@mikestevens5512
@mikestevens5512 Жыл бұрын
A World wide treasure!!
@richardannaken
@richardannaken Жыл бұрын
Imagine if leaders from all walks of life and all religions could have intelligent, calm and respectful discussions like this each day how wonderful this world would be
@BrendaLee381
@BrendaLee381 Жыл бұрын
Respectfully, the Muslim was not calm. He was there to refute Christianity, and Mr. Peterson was there to discuss their common beliefs, but the Muslim kept saying he disagreed with almost everything that Peterson said.
@richardannaken
@richardannaken Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone for whatever you believe. I’m a Christian in training, wasn’t raised as a Christian, didn’t go to church, didn’t know God, just started about 4 years ago. I listen to all view points. Because of my experience 4 years ago with God and things God has shown me these last few years I know Jesus is not only my savior but God. I live by 3 rules (and probably don’t do them well). First I love God first, All other humans second, and I try to apply the Fruit of the Spirit to every conversation and everything I do. Communication is extremely important whether we agree or disagree, otherwise we have issues, communication is not trying to better someone or change someone THAT IS God’s plan and job. I’m an old guy and God didn’t need to use me until I 60. Sorry for the long conversation.
@robotzcomix1462
@robotzcomix1462 Жыл бұрын
@@BrendaLee381 "disagree" are just a word for u to make him look bad? people have their own belief, perspectives, theory, and anthing that is different since we are human and by u mean disagree does'nt mean he is ignorant, he makes his points and eloborate it rather than being (like u) no offense. a man who did'nt like to be disagreed by.
@robotzcomix1462
@robotzcomix1462 Жыл бұрын
@@richardannaken no need to be sorry. it is admirable that u seek knowledge rather than be ignorant. i hope u can do research about muslims aswell it's quite interesting. A man that tolerate for anything protect nothing.
@pgpro8691
@pgpro8691 Жыл бұрын
They’ve got WAY too many ulterior motives involving making money to ever care to agree.
@rossrowley
@rossrowley 3 ай бұрын
This side of Hijab I really respect. A relaxed, and respectful conversation I think is the most important discourse we can have.
@zaraki942
@zaraki942 2 ай бұрын
Hijab has always been respectful to people who’re respectful.
@kims144
@kims144 2 ай бұрын
He knows how to read his opponent. Aggression would not have helped him here. But deep down, he is what he manifests most of the time.
@MrHammerman97
@MrHammerman97 8 күн бұрын
It's cause Peterson isn't a jew. Hijab goes barbaric when a jew debates him.
@2014NissanCorolla
@2014NissanCorolla 5 күн бұрын
Hijab is always respectful???😂😂😂. Bro literally threatened peoples lives and has said MANY sexual things about women and minors.
@user-yo9oe5jk2m
@user-yo9oe5jk2m 3 күн бұрын
@@zaraki942tell me you are joking
@smacosta1314
@smacosta1314 Ай бұрын
Yes, much respect and appreciation for these speakers for their grace and civility. It is exemplary. I can’t help, however, but think that Hijab engages in this intellectual exchange with the predetermined purpose and motivation of arguing Islam to be the truer or superior faith and even attempting to corner, Peterson, by reason of the Islamic doctrinal challenge, into converting to Islam. I would’ve liked to hear more discussion on this topic
@mosef98
@mosef98 17 күн бұрын
So, I think that's the whole point of it. To argue that Islam is the one true religion
@mihhbfdunndgjmbfds
@mihhbfdunndgjmbfds Жыл бұрын
This is what the world needs. I appreciate Dr. Jordan Peterson, Jonathan and Mohammed Hijab sitting at the same table and having a Real Talk, to an extent in which they have talked in this video. We need more of this! Not only from these fine souls, that are in search and pursuit of remedy, but from many others.. on all levels. This is the way forward. Bless to all
@magnumopus1628
@magnumopus1628 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, mohammad Hijab is most certainly a "fine soul". You don't know much about him, do you?
@commandar88
@commandar88 Жыл бұрын
@@magnumopus1628 you think both are perfect human beings. Dont gas light
@positivegerald2199
@positivegerald2199 Жыл бұрын
@@commandar88 Hijab isn’t honest. He bashes the west constantly but lives in the west? He’s a hypocrite.
@pschutzer
@pschutzer Жыл бұрын
He’s a smoother moslem liar only . . .
@roberjohnsmith
@roberjohnsmith Жыл бұрын
@@commandar88 it's not about being perfect. This Hijab guy is open about his views about Pete do phelia and is very honest about apostates being killed. He apologizes for none of it, for which I am thankful for his honesty. Much better a snake wears it's own skin than coat itself with the wool of a sheep.
@G31mR
@G31mR Жыл бұрын
MH's willingness to let Dr. Peterson talk at length is MUCH appreciated.
@Seven_1865
@Seven_1865 Жыл бұрын
That’s a low bar but given his record it’s understandable.
@xGAMER_chimpX
@xGAMER_chimpX Жыл бұрын
Hijab failed to understand this strategy from JP thats how JP weaseled his way out of all the questions and constantly interrupted hijab Dishonest as expected
@jagoman85
@jagoman85 Жыл бұрын
@@xGAMER_chimpX JP Waffled and Waffled and Waffled and .....
@xGAMER_chimpX
@xGAMER_chimpX Жыл бұрын
@@jagoman85 he sure did.
@goldilocks913
@goldilocks913 Жыл бұрын
@@jagoman85 perhaps if you had understood more what he was saying it wouldn’t have been waffle?
@icanwin365
@icanwin365 4 ай бұрын
I can't express how impactful this video has been for me.
@That_One_Guy115
@That_One_Guy115 Жыл бұрын
“What you need most will be found where you least want to look” such a powerful quote
@LeoCody1
@LeoCody1 Жыл бұрын
Was this a debate or a lecture. That muslim dude wouldn't shut up.
@JimmyHoMaimai
@JimmyHoMaimai Жыл бұрын
@@LeoCody1 I don't trust this Hijab guy for some reason. Reminds me of this Hindus in India
@jillianlister3625
@jillianlister3625 Жыл бұрын
Point 1 is that Mummamod was born 600 years after Jesus Christ was crucified on the cross and both the old and New Testament had been around for all those years beforehand and so a lot of the Islamic book has so much of the holy bible within its pages or at least the shadow of God’s Word.
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
It is very easy to refute Islam! Because the God of Islam does not know that according to Christianity God incarnated True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8
@ErraticFaith
@ErraticFaith Жыл бұрын
Islam is a driven oratory system in many instances (rather than idle discussion), so sometimes it can be mistaken for lecture due to the style of teaching. Nonetheless it's confidence is why it ended Christianity long ago in most places and left them with nothing but churches full of old losers. If you haven't noticed youth influencers are ALL Islamic. Be it Tiktok, or British majority influencers like Andrew Tate.
@davec8117
@davec8117 Жыл бұрын
One of my best friends in the world, who died tragically a few months ago at the age of 41 was Muslim. I still cry every time I think of him. We were two opposites, yet…we were brothers. In the truest sense of the meaning. The debates we had were epic. But at the end of the day. We were brothers and and best friends. I miss that about him. What I would give to have him here to engage is this type of conversation again. This discussion should be cherished as a reminder that friendship and brotherhood transcends geography and faith.
@noormuzamil9850
@noormuzamil9850 Жыл бұрын
Wow
@jerkfacefuckasaurusrex328
@jerkfacefuckasaurusrex328 Жыл бұрын
It's early in the morning. It's too early to shed tears like this, Brother. But I am so sorry. I'm positive he is still keeping an eye on you. Being with you when you need him most. God Bless my friend. Go with the Father.
@abdulsalamghazal9127
@abdulsalamghazal9127 Жыл бұрын
may Allah grant him the highest level of Jannah, If I may suggest that as an honor to your friend (and brother) you keep searching for the truth and search deep please, no pressure, I feel that a lot of people don't search/read enough, they try and hit the surface and then they delay and ignore till it's too late, sorry my English is not that good, may Allah bless you.
@noormuzamil9850
@noormuzamil9850 Жыл бұрын
@@abdulsalamghazal9127 u
@noormuzamil9850
@noormuzamil9850 Жыл бұрын
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@privateaccount12312
@privateaccount12312 14 күн бұрын
Very wonderful dialogue and the types of conversations we should all strive to have with each other
@protonjones54
@protonjones54 3 күн бұрын
Damn, unfortunate that video cuts off at the end. For shame that daily wire didn't include the last part of this interview on their website. That was an important line Peterson was on.
@anthonyhampton5904
@anthonyhampton5904 10 ай бұрын
What a wonderful discussion. I am Roman Catholic and I have many friends who are Muslim. We have been having similar conversations recently. These types of conversations are essential !!
@doridori4658
@doridori4658 10 ай бұрын
@@alexanderspear9464 I'ts so hard for me to grasp the level of your ignorance and others like you.
@cyanidecapsule6275
@cyanidecapsule6275 10 ай бұрын
@@alexanderspear9464 That’s a bold statement 😂 I’m not Christian but feel the need to say ‘Jesus’ to that
@Arthurian.
@Arthurian. 10 ай бұрын
​@@alexanderspear9464 exactly. No idea why people insist it's a religion capable of coinciding.
@nickidaisydandelion4044
@nickidaisydandelion4044 10 ай бұрын
I know that there are peaceful Muslims out there. What I find very disconcerting though are these Commandments from the Quran: Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)." Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …" How can such a commandment be tolerated by anyone?
@Kyle_402
@Kyle_402 10 ай бұрын
@@cyanidecapsule6275 Read Nicki’s comment.
@vincentjemhia5683
@vincentjemhia5683 6 ай бұрын
This is the most intense yet calm and respectful talk I've ever seen
@aryafaaz9345
@aryafaaz9345 5 ай бұрын
Kudos to Mohammed Hijab 🎉🎉🎉👍👏 He is intelligent & eloquent with an exceptionally high level of Emotional Quotient. His perspective is extremely grounded , level-headed , highly rational , focussed , organised & systematic. I was a fan of Jordan Peterson so I do respect him & his ideas. For this video , unfortunately & disappointedly , every time he goes on his elongated tangent to a simple & straightforward question , I cannot help but visualise him ... In a toga , floating around among the clouds , flitting from cloud to cloud & holding a harp but not playing it ....BECAUSE .... he does not know how to play it ‼️ He is merely holding the harp for CLOUT AMONG THE CLOUDS ‼️‼️‼️🤦‍♀️ Sad to say , this makes him look like .... An EMPTY CAN .... MAKING THE MOST NOISE ‼️‼️‼️🤦‍♀️
@davidherr2592
@davidherr2592 5 ай бұрын
@@aryafaaz9345your bias is showing. 😂🔥👍
@GsQDoom
@GsQDoom 5 ай бұрын
@@aryafaaz9345 Would it be more accurate if you said "I could not follow what Jordan Peterson was speaking about?" Surely, you're making a lot of noise yourself, you know?
@Furueru
@Furueru 5 ай бұрын
@@aryafaaz9345 Dude, that's not a football game. Get that 'my team vs. the other team' Hype out of here.
@vanguard8889
@vanguard8889 5 ай бұрын
Hmmm, shall we guessyour identity based on your biases?
@tinaari88
@tinaari88 15 күн бұрын
Jordan’s ability and presence to turn a vicious dog into a lamb is overwhelming! never seen momo be so respectful ! 👏🏼
@catalinchelbea8739
@catalinchelbea8739 11 күн бұрын
Right. Maybe becouse he cannot pride himself with his intelligence over JP. Also I will argue his intelligence is just big words with 0 knowledge. And second it might be that JP has higher audience and that can work in his favor. Gaining some followers
@Closelyreversed
@Closelyreversed 11 күн бұрын
It is shameful to answer Your Worst and dishonourable comment but I wanna say that Muhammad is a very Intelligent and Polite person, this 1 hour and 30 minutes proves that!! But He is polite with Jordan like Persons not like you, Those who can't answer or prove him wrong always claim that He is disrespectful🥱
@catalinchelbea8739
@catalinchelbea8739 11 күн бұрын
@@Closelyreversed maybe you should search siig,david and Bob debating him on speakers corner. He gets defensive and insults them when when he have no answer. But have it your way. Proof will stil not change your mind.
@zu1502
@zu1502 11 күн бұрын
Seems like tour just islamaphobic lol. Islam is the truth and the only truth .
@sporkcunt8100
@sporkcunt8100 11 күн бұрын
@@Closelyreversedfirst of all Muhammad couldn’t read or write also didn’t he use god as a excuse to rape a 9 year old girl might wanna do more research on Muhammad
@colottikid
@colottikid Ай бұрын
Greatest mind of possibly all of time sitting with a 3.99 human quran audiobook quoting scriptures for 2 hours. Beyond me how Dr. Peterson would show these men the time of day in 15 lifetimes let along one. Blessed these men are sitting in the same room. Blessed I am for coexisting with such a genius. God bless your heart, Dr. Peterson.
@saloona_
@saloona_ 6 күн бұрын
Peterson literally said its a good time right now not to state our (people of faith's) differences and yet you here are mocking Muslims and this clearly shows how ignorant you are. You were raised "correctly".
@Nick-ky5yn
@Nick-ky5yn Жыл бұрын
This conversation could have gone on for 6 hours and still be fascinating.
@bonleofen
@bonleofen Жыл бұрын
Yeah totally. They barely scratched the surface.
@zccau2316
@zccau2316 Жыл бұрын
@@bonleofen Is there a part 2? It cut off halfway
@waleedaal
@waleedaal Жыл бұрын
@@zccau2316is there a part 2?
@bonleofen
@bonleofen Жыл бұрын
@@waleedaal sadly no. I think there could be some technical issues that couldn't record the last bit.
@hahahaha4133
@hahahaha4133 Жыл бұрын
Man I want more of Jordan and hijab honestly . They have interesting conversations
@LeeD-ou7jy
@LeeD-ou7jy Жыл бұрын
The Viktor Frankl book that Mohammed Hijab is referencing is called “Man’s search for Meaning”, and it’s one of the most important books I’ve read. Highly recommend it.
@oak8891
@oak8891 Жыл бұрын
I will second this, incredible book
@youthoo
@youthoo Жыл бұрын
Third
@matthewauberger8203
@matthewauberger8203 Жыл бұрын
Fourth! Changed the manner in which I view life.
@tadija007
@tadija007 Жыл бұрын
Dr Peterson mentioned this book few years ago, certainly one of the best books he's recommending
@LeeD-ou7jy
@LeeD-ou7jy Жыл бұрын
@@tadija007 He did, this motivated me to read it. I'm sure it's listed on his website too, alongside many other superb books.
@tr3n11
@tr3n11 17 күн бұрын
I saw good human beings on both sides lending their ears to learn their differences. The world would be far better with many more people like them. I believe I belong more in the agnostic group but raised Catholic and I learned a lot about theology from both sides especially about the Quran from this discussion. All of them have done a great service to the world just by talking. Thank you gentlemen!
@mikaylmehtab2188
@mikaylmehtab2188 5 ай бұрын
Jonathan Peterson and Md Hijab are the two most intelligent people I've come across. Keep it up gentleman. I'm a Muslim but always welcome healthy conversation and there is a need at this moment of time, to discuss, review, therefore understand thy neigbour more than ever and live side by side in harmony. Conversation is the key word. !!❤
@kevinq6628
@kevinq6628 5 ай бұрын
Try again lol
@ShahrukhKhan-un4hj
@ShahrukhKhan-un4hj 5 ай бұрын
​@@kevinq6628I think you should find out why your father left.
@ryojs4286
@ryojs4286 3 ай бұрын
Mohammed Hijab is, Peterson is not
@campbellsmith3711
@campbellsmith3711 3 ай бұрын
@@ryojs4286Mohammed hijab is literally one of the least intelligent people I have ever seen in an academic setting. He is a joke and portray’s Islam in a bad light
@thertslover
@thertslover 2 ай бұрын
@@ryojs4286 He's dedicated his life to a fictional cult, so I think not.
@Elaine-ut7qq
@Elaine-ut7qq Жыл бұрын
To be sitting in my living room and as a Christian in the US and listening to this amazing give and take conversation with Jordan, Mohammad Hijab and Jonathan on their religions is so heart warming. Having real conversations is what is going to help us all to live and work together as well as learn to respect one another for our differences. God Bless all of you all.
@hzjc9680
@hzjc9680 Жыл бұрын
Basic Islam (*eg allah+Mohd+black stone…): 1. You have to believe in allah and equate a man by the name Mohammad next to him - idolatry; 2. You have to pray toward a rock that has a black stone in it - idolatry; 3. You have to give charity only to Muslim causes. You are not to support other causes. - But you claim Islam is a religion of peace and mercy. What a joke! 4. You have the fasting but when people cannot fast during the month, you pay somebody to fast on your behalf, and you earn righteousness! - But you deny what Christ Jesus did for you on the cross and His resurrection so that believers can get His righteousness (Rom4:25); 5. You go on perform the pilgrimage, but we heard what happened to the women (*being sexually abused) at the “holey place”. - Al Fadi
@hzjc9680
@hzjc9680 Жыл бұрын
Jeremiah9:24but let him who boasts boast in this, that he understands and knows me, that I am the LORD who practices steadfast LOVE, justice, and righteousness in the earth. For in these things I delight, declares the LORD.”
@KingBugsBunny
@KingBugsBunny Жыл бұрын
@@hzjc9680 1- Yes, you have to believe in Allah and his messenger Mohammed(PBUH) and he is just a messenger and a prophet we do not consider him equal to Allah. 2- We pray towards the Kaaba and not worship the Kaaba, before our direction was changed to Kaaba the Mohammed (PBUH) and the Muslims at that time used to face Al-Aqsa Masjid which is in Jurusalem, and then Allah commanded them to face the Kaaba. 3-Muslims are not prohibited from giving charity to anyone unless they’re fighting against us. 4- You’re wrong again, someone cannot fast in your stead even if you pay them, you have to fast yourself and if you’re unable to because you’re traveling, sick, on menstrual cycle etc you make up for that fast by fasting in another month for how many fasts you missed and if you’re old, have a condition that makes you unable to fast because it puts you in danger you don’t have to fast instead you feed 1 person per day for how many fasts you missed, e.g you didn’t fast for 29 or 30 days in Ramadan you feed 29 or 30 people total 1 per day. 5- People who do atrocious acts like that when they’re at the holy place are the scum of earth and don’t fear Allah That rarely happens. Where did you even get your information from? I’d like to know because wow everything you said is wrong
@KingBugsBunny
@KingBugsBunny Жыл бұрын
@@hzjc9680 you say the Jesus died for our sins, why? He could have just forgiven us if he’s god. How can god die?
@xSabir-hc7wj
@xSabir-hc7wj Жыл бұрын
@@KingBugsBunny i dont think he is serious, just a hater. Most likely from america
@george12go
@george12go Жыл бұрын
all of you spoke beautifully.. There is no winner except for those listening.. Thank you all
@jmp814
@jmp814 Жыл бұрын
The US's 'Founding Fathers', already tried this approach of 'attempt to understand the muslim jackals, who kept killing & enslaving non-islamics indiscriminantly & without mercy or for amy apparent sane reason. They were told that that's how it's written in the q'ran & haddiths, that's how it'll remain. The result was a ban on muslims withim the US. Infortunately, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Lindsay Graham & 1 or 2 other retards removed yhay law, in the 60's or 70's. That's treason & punishable by death. muslims are blooded from an early age & are raised to - expected to inflict fear, terror & atrocities upon the infidels via the 7 types of jihad, on every occassion, while being taught to deceive manipulate & destroy everything that wasn't made via allah. Look up taharoosh/taharuush. The way muslims achieve their halal food, is the same way the satanist elites get their adrenalin packed blood from tortured children before they're killed. They both pray to the devil & get along like a house on fire. To understand the reason why they always act like cut snakes, search for video & text on halal, adrenalin, epi-pen & adrenochrome processes. All are part of the global cabal & must be forced to leave our countries - receive the penalty of death, if they don't comply.
@lillebror1567
@lillebror1567 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean "all"? Whatt do you mean "spoke"? What do you mean "beautifully"?
@bringinthedope5929
@bringinthedope5929 Жыл бұрын
@@lillebror1567 Lmao
@ahsanha9838
@ahsanha9838 Жыл бұрын
The aim of an argument shouldn't be victory, but progress.
@lillebror1567
@lillebror1567 Жыл бұрын
@@ahsanha9838 Neither to go into meaningless semantics about what simple words mean. JP thinks he can define what a woman is, but not words like "do", "you" or "believe".
@RobertReg1
@RobertReg1 4 ай бұрын
Good talk. Thanks to all involved.
@janewilson8784
@janewilson8784 4 ай бұрын
this was enlightening - thank you
@MuhammadKhan-vj8xn
@MuhammadKhan-vj8xn 6 ай бұрын
People of faith need to talk to each other directly like this.
@terradargana3301
@terradargana3301 5 ай бұрын
Is Peterson a man of faith ? I don’t think so - always patronizing from his ivory tower of self right dictation
@alainmaitre2069
@alainmaitre2069 Ай бұрын
Faith in what ?
@campbellsjournal6537
@campbellsjournal6537 Ай бұрын
He’s a Christian
@hmu05366
@hmu05366 Ай бұрын
@@terradargana3301I think he has a lot of respect for the British style reformations - Scottish and English Presbyterianism. And how influential it has been on western culture etc
@wake-upwednesdaypodcast
@wake-upwednesdaypodcast Ай бұрын
Check out exodus
@sandrapendleton85
@sandrapendleton85 Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you have a difference of opinion, get heated, STAY in the room and LISTEN to the others WHY. Loved this.
@kingalaric4431
@kingalaric4431 Жыл бұрын
I'd argue that it wasn't even really "heated." They all seemed to enjoy the discourse
@ryojs4286
@ryojs4286 Жыл бұрын
What to study as well as Online Resources as new Muslims or even old ones Quran itself and the Sunnah. Old Scholars near that time 1. Sapiance Institute 2. Dr Zakir Naik lectures 3. IslamHouse 4. Ahmed Deedat 5. Islamqa info 6. Masjid Ribat channel by sheikh Uthman ibn Farooq 7. Blogging Theology 8. Smile2Jannah 9. MuslimSkeptic 10. Farid speaks gives good book recommendations 11. Check local mosques they sometimes have awesome books 12. Google islamic books and bookstores and get book recs by farid speaks. Conquest of the Sahaba by Al Imam Al waqidi is one Singular great videos 1. Hamza Tzortis vs Lawerence Krauss (4 million) 2. AustiN School, *"How Islam Saved the West",* *"Khalid Ibn walid profile of a Warrior"* (1.1 million) 3. Muslim, christian, jew a conversation (7 million views) 4. Mehdi Hassan, Islam is Peace (9.9 million views) F
@kimberlypearce3732
@kimberlypearce3732 Жыл бұрын
The 2 main differences between Christianity: 1) -Yeshua claimed to be (and in fact, is) God. -Mohammed's brother declared him to be a prophet. 2) -Yeshua instructed His followers to spread the gospel by simply telling everyone, not by force. - Mohammed set the example for his followers by leading them in rampages across Arabia, killing some and making slaves of others who refused to convert.
@ryojs4286
@ryojs4286 Жыл бұрын
@@kimberlypearce3732 ^ *forgets colonialism, nazis, kkk, crusaders, americans and russian nazis in the Muslim lands genocidin* Also atheists *Uyghur genocide, stalin, and Mao, Nanking*
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
*Who explains to us why the Koran says Christians believe God has a biological son!* To all Muslims! Son of God means NOT SON! What is called the son of God is the word of God = god himself! Which has nothing to do with a child (son)! Thus, the Son of God is incarnated as the human Jesus and the human Jesus is therefore referred to as a son, which does not mean a son!
@johnrevelation37
@johnrevelation37 6 күн бұрын
JP showed his true colours in the intro ❤ in the face of evil 💪👍
@nihshrey
@nihshrey 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate you sir, you are a golden treasure to humanity.
@user-yb8lk6sf7w
@user-yb8lk6sf7w 2 ай бұрын
Awsome man Jordan Peterson, so intelligent, clam, respectful and peaceful🙏👏👏💜
@tinatrottier4189
@tinatrottier4189 Жыл бұрын
Thank you to all three of you. This is the conversation we should all be having to love and appreciate each other.
@honz40hands1st9
@honz40hands1st9 Жыл бұрын
Nobody came to an agreement an the Muslim as cocky an arrogant as he may be didn’t even provide an facts an doesn’t know who Jesus really was, Muslims contradict themselves when it comes to Jesus an for hibjab to say provide the evidence an doesn’t accept when provided makes him look unintelligent an ignorant especially the part where they were gonna go off topic to prove hijab wrong but he didn’t want the smoke 1:09:32, for him to save they believe in Jesus an his miracles but not believe he is the son of God is mind blowing, no other person has done miracles in the Quran yet they go beating around the bush an pretending like they have truth but they go by the Old Testament that was before Jesus Christ & pick an choose what makes sense to them instead of the entire story which is ridiculously selfish
@honz40hands1st9
@honz40hands1st9 Жыл бұрын
They say Mohammed saw a vision of the revaluation from an angel but in the Bible Galatians chpt 1: vs8-9 it clearly says that we shouldn’t believe in anything other than what God has told us an clearly that’s not what Muslims do, yet they’ll pick an choose what’s best for them 😂 absolutely absurd fallacy
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
*The ETERNAL GOD would do anything for you!!* Even out of love for you he went to the cross as a human!! Philippians 2:5-8
@HVACRSTRONJAY
@HVACRSTRONJAY Жыл бұрын
As a christain I have made respect for all 3 of you. This was a FASCINATING discussion such professional people politely disagreeing and having the most intelectual discussions. BRAVO
@StallionFernando
@StallionFernando Жыл бұрын
What do you think of the Muslim world wiew? Will they see heaven?
@veronicaredeemed
@veronicaredeemed Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you don't know Mr Hijab.
@ladislausvmap
@ladislausvmap Жыл бұрын
Your not
@sunpath8741
@sunpath8741 Жыл бұрын
@@StallionFernando The bible tells us only through Christ
@FatherDingo
@FatherDingo Жыл бұрын
The fact that they are delusional seems to not face you at all.
@annerose1972
@annerose1972 Ай бұрын
Jordon P. I thought your address to Islamist Muslims was a wonderful call for love and unity .. you were respectful and needed ..
@hamzaabbas2354
@hamzaabbas2354 Ай бұрын
I had no idea Mohmmad hijab could be respectful and not insult someone's daugther.
@ThoseRedPillGuys
@ThoseRedPillGuys 25 күн бұрын
Give it 3 days he will relapse. He did.
@user-bp9jc5fj6t
@user-bp9jc5fj6t 17 күн бұрын
EXACTLY he's walking on egg shells around Jordan because he wants to be liked, he's an ass at heart nonetheless
@DivineLogos
@DivineLogos 7 күн бұрын
​@@user-bp9jc5fj6tHe insulted Jordan's daughter before this interview? If yes, could you link me the video?
@killafacevalue
@killafacevalue Күн бұрын
Hijab is practicing taquiya
@JayTalksinjury
@JayTalksinjury 10 ай бұрын
Like i just told my son today ,"Always be willing to hear both sides of an argument and never let the conversation break down . As a society, we really do depend on each other, and it's taken centuries to get here !" ❤😊
@MURDANA_
@MURDANA_ 10 ай бұрын
I’m glad people instill this in themselves and their families. It’s quite beautiful in a world of chaos. I do have to note though that conversation does tend to break down still but there’s absolutely still hope.
@MURDANA_
@MURDANA_ 10 ай бұрын
Wish you two the best in life ❤
@sarahloffler
@sarahloffler 10 ай бұрын
That is the very skill that has disappeared from universities: debate, discussion, apologetics, conversation. The whole reason for the existence of universities and town halls- inquiry, examination, development of new and better ways to conduct modes and methods of exploration- has been dispensed with only to have been replaced with myopic and soul-crushing oppression and ideological dogma. KZfaq is the new university, and it, too, is slowly being eroded.
@noorshire1977
@noorshire1977 10 ай бұрын
i agree 💯
@Ayd1th
@Ayd1th 9 ай бұрын
actually conversations like these and inter-faith debates used to happen in the Islamic golden age.
@pennyforbes6367
@pennyforbes6367 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore Dr. Jordan Peterson. He just doesn't speak to be heard he feels his words very deeply and I think we need more men like him
@theresaaa8346
@theresaaa8346 Жыл бұрын
I agree 🤗
@burakcoskun1865
@burakcoskun1865 Жыл бұрын
What do u mean by "speak"? What do u mean by "heard"? What do u mean by "feels"?
@shidoku7012
@shidoku7012 Жыл бұрын
​@@burakcoskun1865 what do you mean by "what"? what do you mean by "do"? what do you mean by "you"? what do you mean by "mean"? what do you mean by "by"?
@benyoung552
@benyoung552 Жыл бұрын
@@shidoku7012 😂
@slingitandflingitdiscgolf8340
@slingitandflingitdiscgolf8340 Жыл бұрын
I am a Christian who was raised Southern Baptist but now I am non-denominational. I've always had questions about faith and religion and how it correlates to mine or how it doesn't but here's where I'm stumped: In our Christian faith we are taught to honor our Mother & Father & so therefore in a lot of Christian households, we are taught about the Bible. So how can we look at other religions as being "wrong" whenever they likely had a similar way of adopting religion (through family)? I have met so many wonderful people from all different religions & it's incredibly hard to condemn someone for their religious beliefs because we can't even collectively define religion itself. Just to reiterate, I believe the Gospel but I would like someone from the Christian faith to explain to me how someone who was born Muslim and died Muslim who never knew Jesus will not be entering the Kingdom of Heaven??? Any thoughts on this would be welcomed.
@Brendatalks963
@Brendatalks963 16 күн бұрын
In the silence all is revealed. So many words bring confusion and anger. Each fighting to win. Only God wins. „”Be Still and Know I Am God”
@shentallfournier
@shentallfournier 5 күн бұрын
I love intellectual conversations that make you think about different views and reshape some of your thoughts. I like when different background people debate about “white elephants in the room” subjects. Life is bigger than us. We all come from the same source. It’s about time we start seeing what unites us ❤
@tonybinder9392
@tonybinder9392 Жыл бұрын
Imagine a world where our political leaders had conversations like this. Thank you JPB, Pageu, and Mohamad
@antonovromanov7412
@antonovromanov7412 Жыл бұрын
Kill the clowns 🤡 and replace them with logic
@robbiewhite8383
@robbiewhite8383 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they were our politicians.
@parkerj1776
@parkerj1776 Жыл бұрын
@@robbiewhite8383 imagine if politicians weren’t all talking out of their ass..
@Dokumentarfilme
@Dokumentarfilme Жыл бұрын
@@robbiewhite8383 Jesus, no thx. this idiot Muhammad would oppose sharia.. and we will end up like in iran. No thx.
@Muhammad_Khan
@Muhammad_Khan Жыл бұрын
*Muhammad
@sawsanzerarka5655
@sawsanzerarka5655 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Muslim, and this is the first time I hear Dr, Jordan speaking. And oh boy, he one of a character and thinker! And it was such an enjoyable talk between the three ❤️. I was moved when Dr, Jordan almost cryed at the end. I'm waiting for another talk like this in the future insha Allah ❤️
@ADB-jd9if
@ADB-jd9if Жыл бұрын
Do not be fooled by his symmetrical face and beautiful artculation. He is a Hypocrites and Zionist
@4cymusic785
@4cymusic785 Жыл бұрын
Associating with you fools is what's going to bring JBP down. It's not the gender debate, not the climate change. It's associating with this dude Hijab who's on video asking a group of people to attack non-believers.
@JMJ-rb2ze
@JMJ-rb2ze Жыл бұрын
What do you think about quran 4:171? Jesus a WORD Himself became Flesh and dwelt amongst us is God❤
@patriciakeats1621
@patriciakeats1621 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t watch yet, but I will. I’m not religious, and I don’t believe in god. I believe in humanity, and goodness within. I think that is what we should pay reverence to. I also believe we are one big family, and our differences are just outwardly. We are all brothers, and sisters. I don’t need any other teaching, because goodness lives in my heart, and I’m trying to not be afraid of dying. I believe our only chance in life is the present. I believe when we die, we simply go back to our elemental earth. There is no saviour. We waste time in that belief, and fight amongst ourselves…FOR NOTHING, and certainly not for good.
@JMJ-rb2ze
@JMJ-rb2ze Жыл бұрын
@@patriciakeats1621 Forget Family and all! You by yourself will stand on the day of judgement! Goodness is God and the Righteousness is God! There is a light there is a darkness so similarly, If there is good then theres evil! And evil is contrary to God! Believe in Jesus Christ and be saved get baptized!
@toot255
@toot255 5 ай бұрын
Dr JP god bless you xx
@martynpope8218
@martynpope8218 Ай бұрын
Phenomenal, if heated conversation
@kamcobbe
@kamcobbe Жыл бұрын
Every few minutes into watching this conversation I kept feeling compelled to liking the video, just to realize once again that I had already done so!
@ettaibabdelali6675
@ettaibabdelali6675 Жыл бұрын
Allah Glory to him said:”Those who say, “Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. The Messiah ˹himself˺ said, “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever associates others with Allah ˹in worship˺ will surely be forbidden Paradise by Allah. Their home will be the Fire. And the wrongdoers will have no helpers.-72-Those who say, “Allah is one in a Trinity,” have certainly fallen into disbelief. There is only One God. If they do not stop saying this, those who disbelieve among them will be afflicted with a painful punishment.-73-Will they not turn to Allah in repentance and seek His forgiveness? And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.-74- The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger. ˹Many˺ messengers had ˹come and˺ gone before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They both ate food.1 See how We make the signs clear to them, yet see how they are deluded ˹from the truth˺!-75- Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “How can you worship besides Allah those who can neither harm nor benefit you? And Allah ˹alone˺ is the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.”-76- Say, “O People of the Book! Do not go to extremes in your faith beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of those who went astray before ˹you˺. They misled many and strayed from the Right Way.”-77- The disbelievers among the Children of Israel were condemned in the revelations of David and Jesus, son of Mary. That was for their disobedience and violations.-78- They did not forbid one another from doing evil. Evil indeed was what they did!-79- You see many of them taking the disbelievers1 as allies. Truly wicked are their misdeeds, which have earned them Allah’s wrath. And they will be in everlasting torment.-80- Had they believed in Allah, the Prophet, and what has been revealed to him, they would have never taken those ˹pagans˺ as allies. But most of them are rebellious-81- You will surely find the most bitter towards the believers to be the Jews and polytheists and the most gracious to be those who call themselves Christian. That is because there are priests and monks among them and because they are not arrogant.-82- When they listen to what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears for recognizing the truth. They say, “Our Lord! We believe, so count us among the witnesses.-83- Why should we not believe in Allah and the truth that has come to us? And we long for our Lord to include us in the company of the righteous.”-84-So Allah will reward them for what they said with Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there forever. And that is the reward of the good-doers.-85-“ Al-Maida Al Quran Al-Kareem
@ettaibabdelali6675
@ettaibabdelali6675 Жыл бұрын
In the name of Allah the most gracious the most merciful Allah Glory to him said: Indeed, Allah chose Adam, Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of Imrân [father of Mary] above all people. -33- They are descendants of one another. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. -34- ˹Remember˺ when the wife of ’Imrân said, “My Lord! I dedicate what is in my womb entirely to Your service,1 so accept it from me. You ˹alone˺ are truly the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.” -35-When she delivered, she said, “My Lord! I have given birth to a girl,”-and Allah fully knew what she had delivered-“and the male is not like the female. I have named her Mary, and I seek Your protection for her and her offspring from Satan, the accursed.”-36- So her Lord accepted her graciously and blessed her with a pleasant upbringing-entrusting her to the care of Zachariah. Whenever Zachariah visited her in the sanctuary, he found her supplied with provisions. He exclaimed, “O Mary! Where did this come from?” She replied, “It is from Allah. Surely Allah provides for whoever He wills without limit.”-37- Then and there Zachariah prayed to his Lord, saying, “My Lord! Grant me-by your grace-righteous offspring. You are certainly the Hearer of ˹all˺ prayers.”-38- So the angels called out to him while he stood praying in the sanctuary, “Allah gives you good news of ˹the birth of˺ John who will confirm the Word of Allah and will be a great leader, chaste, and a prophet among the righteous.”-39- Zachariah exclaimed, “My Lord! How can I have a son when I am very old and my wife is barren?” He replied, “So will it be. Allah does what He wills.” -40- Zachariah said, “My Lord! Grant me a sign.” He said, “Your sign is that you will not ˹be able to˺ speak to people for three days except through gestures. Remember your Lord often and glorify ˹Him˺ morning and evening.”-41- And ˹remember˺ when the angels said, “O Mary! Surely Allah has selected you, purified you, and chosen you over all women of the world. -42- O Mary! Be devout to your Lord, prostrate yourself ˹in prayer˺ and bow along with those who bow down.”-43- This is news of the unseen that We reveal to you ˹O Prophet˺. You were not with them when they cast lots to decide who would be Mary’s guardian, nor were you there when they argued ˹about it˺.-44- ˹Remember˺ when the angels proclaimed, “O Mary! Allah gives you good news of a Word1 from Him, his name will be the Messiah,2 Jesus, son of Mary; honoured in this world and the Hereafter, and he will be one of those nearest ˹to Allah˺.-45- And he will speak to people in ˹his˺ infancy and adulthood and will be one of the righteous.” -46- Mary wondered, “My Lord! How can I have a child when no man has ever touched me?” An angel replied, “So will it be. Allah creates what He wills. When He decrees a matter, He simply tells it, ‘Be!’ And it is! -47- And Allah will teach him writing and wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel,-48- and ˹make him˺ a messenger to the Children of Israel ˹to proclaim,˺ ‘I have come to you with a sign from your Lord: I will make for you a bird from clay, breathe into it, and it will become a ˹real˺ bird-by Allah’s Will. I will heal the blind and the leper and raise the dead to life-by Allah’s Will. And I will prophesize what you eat and store in your houses. Surely in this is a sign for you if you ˹truly˺ believe. -49- And I will confirm the Torah revealed before me and legalize some of what had been forbidden to you. I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, so be mindful of Allah and obey me. -50- Surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him ˹alone˺. This is the Straight Path.’” -51- When Jesus sensed disbelief from his people, he asked, “Who will stand up with me for Allah?” The disciples replied, “We will stand up for Allah. We believe in Allah, so bear witness that we have submitted.” -52- ˹They prayed to Allah,˺ “Our Lord! We believe in Your revelations and follow the messenger, so count us among those who bear witness.” -53- And the disbelievers made a plan ˹against Jesus˺, but Allah also planned-and Allah is the best of planners.-54- ˹Remember˺ when Allah said, “O Jesus! I will take you1 and raise you up to Myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve, and elevate your followers above the disbelievers until the Day of Judgment. Then to Me you will ˹all˺ return, and I will settle all your disputes. -55- As for those who disbelieve, I will subject them to a severe punishment in this life and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers. -56- And as for those who believe and do good, they will be rewarded in full. And Allah does not like the wrongdoers.” -57- We recite ˹all˺ this to you ˹O Prophet˺ as one of the signs1 and ˹as˺ a wise reminder. -58- Indeed, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allah is like that of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be!” And he was! -59- This is the truth from your Lord, so do not be one of those who doubt. -60- }} Al-Imaran Al-Quran Al-Kareem
@so_she_said
@so_she_said Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jonathan Pageau for being there.
@xaviervelascosuarez
@xaviervelascosuarez Жыл бұрын
Yeah, thank you. Next time don't be so shy. 😁
@shhh3185
@shhh3185 Жыл бұрын
@@xaviervelascosuarez I don't blame Jonathan for being freaked out by this.
@MrSofuskroghlarsen
@MrSofuskroghlarsen Жыл бұрын
@@shhh3185 Me neither. Hijab comes across as someone that merely wants to convert Jordan.
@JoshWiniberg
@JoshWiniberg Жыл бұрын
He punctured Hijab's dull conversion tactics in just the right way. I would have loved to have heard more from him but what little he did say was perfect.
@CordobaGeneral1234
@CordobaGeneral1234 Жыл бұрын
He provided nothing to the discourse
@meeph567
@meeph567 4 ай бұрын
This is the only instance where I saw Mohammed behave very nicely - Jordan, you are an amazing person and I wish I had one tenth of the goodness you have, in me. I hope your positive influence will spread to everyone.
@Danimal77
@Danimal77 2 ай бұрын
He behaved very nicely on The True Geordie podcast.
@alyssag.5758
@alyssag.5758 11 күн бұрын
No he was nice on the Fresh and Fit podcast
@beenishgill9952
@beenishgill9952 15 күн бұрын
Mr Jordan salute to you 🙌 🙏
@redietteffera7086
@redietteffera7086 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jonathan Pageau!! I see Christ in you through your humility of letting others speak first! James 1:19 "Let every person be quick to hear and slow to speak"
@saifulmahin1700
@saifulmahin1700 Жыл бұрын
Love him❤
@saifulmahin1700
@saifulmahin1700 Жыл бұрын
Love him❤
@Featherfinder
@Featherfinder Жыл бұрын
@@AC-mp7cx I care when people interrupt during a conversation. Who does NOT care? Conversations should be civil ..and a rule of civil discourse is: Do not interrupt.
@JackDSquat
@JackDSquat Жыл бұрын
@@Featherfinder he needed to interrupt to call MH on his bs
@coryrakatau4656
@coryrakatau4656 Ай бұрын
Hence why God gave us 2 ears and one mouth lol
@rablaze
@rablaze Жыл бұрын
I do love the way they find pockets of moments to laugh, joke and bring levity in their discussion of serious topics. Laughter definitely brings people together
@Safe-and-effective
@Safe-and-effective Жыл бұрын
Sure. Tell that to the Charlie Hebdo staff.
@zccau2316
@zccau2316 Жыл бұрын
@@Safe-and-effective Oh no the internet c*nt is back here again. As Hijab said say that to the 5 million Algerians murdered by the french
@Safe-and-effective
@Safe-and-effective Жыл бұрын
@@zccau2316 Ooh, justifying muslim terrorism. Let me guess...you're a moderate, right?
@solaveritas2
@solaveritas2 Жыл бұрын
@Mosaab twice Why do you call the American Army Christians? Dont' you know what being Christan means? Being American doesn't equal Christian. Christians are NOT responsible for dead children.
@solaveritas2
@solaveritas2 Жыл бұрын
@Mosaab twice You sound very confused. Christianity is the religion, western states don't have a religion, they have a separation of church and state. When America attacks another country, it has nothing to do with Christianity. When European nations go to war, it's not a Christian war. Christianity does not teach killing people. Anyone who does that, is not a Christian.
@AndreasGautier
@AndreasGautier Күн бұрын
It was lovely to see the spirit in which this debate took place..... there is hope after all
@bradwaddingham9900
@bradwaddingham9900 5 ай бұрын
Jordan has conversation to understand, and i feel that Mohammed has conversation to be right and i see this is most speakers about Muslums
@janelouisebriggs2999
@janelouisebriggs2999 Ай бұрын
Absolutely, it comes over from everyone of the islamic speakers I have listened to. There is an incredible amount of arrogance I heart in islam and an agenda to make the whole world a mosque to muhammed through the sword if they deem it necessary. Such dominance....and oh his last question..would you become a muslim? That was what he was doing all along and not truly hearing Peterson. I could NEVER become a muslim. It is NOT the truth and it would mean that I would have yo deny my Saviour, Jesus. Absolutely NOT!
@yasararafatha3139
@yasararafatha3139 29 күн бұрын
Muslums ? You are brainwashed
@turkaan
@turkaan 24 күн бұрын
I don’t agree. Why do you need to do this? Just talk about the content not what you geel people are doing if you cant do that just listen dude.. not everything needs to be debate pr0n
@elachakamikaze9356
@elachakamikaze9356 20 күн бұрын
​@@turkaanhijab is a bully who usually gets schooled which is why he interupts and yells and even sings durimg.debates.
@Hafsa8660
@Hafsa8660 3 күн бұрын
We engage in conversations not to prove ourselves right, but to illuminate the truth. The truth is this: if one dies as a disbeliever, they'll face eternal hellfire. This isn't a matter for jest or metaphor. We prefer directness over superfluous talk. Btw, Mohamed Hijab often asks questions to understand what Jordan thinks, giving him plenty of time to share his thoughts without interrupting him. Jordan doesn’t really know what’s he talking about when it comes to Christianity or even Islam. And this talk IS about religion and what the ultimate truth is. That’s why Mohammed hijab keeps asking them to bring their proof of why Christianity is the right religion. And why that’s an important question is because it has a lot to do with our afterlife. What will happen to us after we die? Will God accept me as a Christian or as a Muslim or as a Buddhist etc. Unfortunately, many people like Peterson, care more about this life than the bigger questions, treating biblical narratives more as allegories than historical truths. How can he call himself Christian then, if he doesn’t believe the Bible is the word of God. We Muslims believe 100% that the Quran is the word of God and the most accurate book that’s exist. So Of course we want to share it with others, of course hijab want Peterson to read it and understand it. It’s not about being right, it’s about showing why we’re right. “Come to the truth people” is what we’re trying to say. Jordan cares about the truth and the facts when it comes to science but not religion. That’s why when hijab asked him if he'd believe in Prophet Mohammed ﷺ even with proof, Jordan hesitated, questioning why he should bother. This shows he values proof in science but not necessarily in religion. Which is crazy to me. Because science is about this life which will end, but religion is about the afterlife which is eternal. Also science is about religion. Because you’re studying God’s creation. But studying who that God is should be more important.
@ambition112
@ambition112 8 ай бұрын
0:00: 🗣 The speaker discusses the importance of initiating dialogue and understanding between people of different religious faiths, emphasizing the need to focus on commonalities rather than differences. 10:36: 🗣 The speaker discusses the importance of engaging in difficult discussions and exploring different perspectives in order to find common ground and address historical atrocities. 20:04: 🗣 The speaker discusses the complex issue of responsibility for colonial past and offers an alternative perspective to the notion that the ideology of the West can fix all problems. 28:51: ✨ The speaker discusses the purpose of life and the importance of unity and humility in faith. 36:37: 🎶 The discussion explores the role of worship, ritual, and music in fostering unity and integration within communities, highlighting the importance of celebrating and praising a higher power. 46:05: 📚 The discussion revolves around the concept of truth, unity, and the compatibility of Christianity and scientific narratives. 55:26: 📚 The speaker discusses the centrality of the figure of Christ in different religious traditions and the significance of symbolic interpretation in Christianity. 1:04:21: 🤔 The speaker discusses the complexities of belief, perception, and interpretation in relation to questions about God and texts. 1:13:05: 💡 The speaker discusses the psychological perspective on why people are drawn to the crucifixion story and the concept of confronting tragedy and hell in life. 1:23:05: 📚 Discussion on the power of belief, unity, and the evidence for Prophet Muhammad's prophethood. 1:32:40: 📚 The speaker discusses various prophecies and beliefs related to Islam and evaluates the concept of proof in faith. Recap by Tammy AI
@Shado3_3
@Shado3_3 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this🙌❤️💯💯
@blessingnjoku721
@blessingnjoku721 8 ай бұрын
You have done so well. I need to book a class with u to learn how to paraphrase perfectly. U are awesome 👍
@ADEL.MUSLIM
@ADEL.MUSLIM 7 ай бұрын
nice
@1viva
@1viva 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this practical information! :-)
@Dr_Ryan-uu4rk
@Dr_Ryan-uu4rk 6 ай бұрын
Spectacular 😮
@meshukorina
@meshukorina Жыл бұрын
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson is quite literally the gift that keeps on giving. 🙌🏽 THANK YOU 🙏🏽
@Ka112eb
@Ka112eb Жыл бұрын
Hijab the joke that keeps me laughing
@realestever1097
@realestever1097 Жыл бұрын
Pakistan is a terrorist state
@einherjar2545
@einherjar2545 Жыл бұрын
A gem from Canada
@Ibn_Abdulaziz
@Ibn_Abdulaziz Жыл бұрын
Also he was banned from twitter for annoying a girl that became a man right? So what does think of christianity that claims God became a man? Did God transition into an apartheid tribesmen creature? Is that why he stormed Al-Aqsa compound due to his belief that God belongs to the apartheid tribesmen's ethnicity?
@Ibn_Abdulaziz
@Ibn_Abdulaziz Жыл бұрын
He says that he wants peace, but then goes on to storm Al-Aqsa compound with that robot sounding apartheid tribesmen creature. Rather what he wants is perennialism among Muslims and zionism for them. Did this interview happen before or after his storming of Al-Aqsa? Look up the video.
@bowensutton6571
@bowensutton6571 2 ай бұрын
Listening to Jordan speak is and will always be something that massages my brain muscles. Its just so interesting how he can build images in your mind that youve just straight up had never thought on very strongly. Hes a MASTER word smith and a TREASURE for it to millions world wide ❤️ Id say he deserves a spot in history of his own, if i could just snap my fingers and make it happen.
@icibinbataII
@icibinbataII 5 ай бұрын
Now I'm a fan of Peterson. 54:00 . Perfect.
@ethanshepard8608
@ethanshepard8608 Жыл бұрын
One quote that sums the whole conversation "Stop asking if I believe in God; watch me." -Pageau
@a4482921
@a4482921 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The word “Iman” in Islam, which is often incompletely translated as “faith” or “belief”, actually encompasses faith in the heart, affirmation with the tongue and manifestation in action. Without all components, one’s “Iman” is considered incomplete.
@dianakhayal7816
@dianakhayal7816 Жыл бұрын
@@a4482921 great reminder, but it shows it should be on all levels.. because the real intention is so important for why a person doing what he is doing.. is it fame, power, wealth, satisfy getting attention, need to feel important, satisfy his mom or doing good (but what better than goodness that our creater is asking us to do ) thats how I see it.. but eventually the only one know our real intention is our creator who knows what in our hearts
@colleen412
@colleen412 Жыл бұрын
Not enough Jonathan Pageau! He is definitely the best listener. Love the discourse on music. Also the discussion about belief which must be lived-not only professed. These discussions need to be continued.
@WelcomeToJ
@WelcomeToJ Жыл бұрын
Jonathan posted a video on his channel explaining why he was the way he was in this discussion. He read Mohammad correctly.. you should go check it out.
@everyman1
@everyman1 Жыл бұрын
@@WelcomeToJ just watched it. He's a very wise man!
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
*The ETERNAL GOD would do anything for you!!* Even out of love for you he went to the cross as a human!! Philippians 2:5-8
@jimjustjim976
@jimjustjim976 Жыл бұрын
@@WelcomeToJ here on YT or his website? I didn't see it. Love to see it. Please pass on where to find.
@friktogurg9242
@friktogurg9242 Жыл бұрын
Jonathan is a muslim?
@matthewthehuman1744
@matthewthehuman1744 21 күн бұрын
Jordan, you're the best in the game. Massive respect to the other two gentlemen as well.
@yasamanhosseinzadeh1920
@yasamanhosseinzadeh1920 4 ай бұрын
Does this conversation continue? if yes how can I find the rest of it?
@mattnieves5700
@mattnieves5700 Жыл бұрын
This conversation was long needed. These 3 people were probably the best to have the conversation. This also shows the world how different views can sit and have a good time while disagreeing. Thank you
@elingrome5853
@elingrome5853 Жыл бұрын
but most of these views cant be expressed in certain parts of "the world"...
@islamicsensei
@islamicsensei Жыл бұрын
@@elingrome5853 Those parts of "the world" have expressed these views had these conversations and conducted debates/discussions when royalties in Europe couldn't read their own names
@mattnieves5700
@mattnieves5700 Жыл бұрын
@@islamicsensei These discussions will always happen as long as different religions exist. These conversations are rare and it being streamed for the public makes it even more rare. It's amazing and hopefully more conversations like this will take place for the public.
@elektrotehnik94
@elektrotehnik94 Жыл бұрын
The point is that we often start the discussion badly. Patience. ❤ I hope we get many more discussions like this; and that Jordan won’t be the only social glue that will hold together the disagreeable Jonathan & disagreeable Mohammed 👍
@sweeneyadair2952
@sweeneyadair2952 Жыл бұрын
Hijab is not well equipped at all...only two people were here to understand and the other was only geared to convert. It will be quite some time before Mojab gets it. But in Mojab's lack of sincere engagement, we at least understand that Fundamental Muslims will oft express no particular position in understanding/appreciating the other...only to correct/bring the other into order..This is telling, leaving us with the question...will fundamental Islam ever have the ability to engage in equivalence...?
@deplorabledave1048
@deplorabledave1048 Жыл бұрын
He was soooo shaky (weak) when he came back in the public eye after almost dying from kicking benzos. Man, does he ever bring the fire and thunder......now that he has healed some. My God, it warms my soul! God bless, the Good Doctor!
@SM_zzz
@SM_zzz Жыл бұрын
It's inspiring to see someone overcome all kinds of unbelievably difficult adversities and then to rise back to the top, living by his own advice. Bravo, Dr. Peterson. Bravo. ❤ God bless.
@equityjustice2695
@equityjustice2695 Жыл бұрын
😑Jordan is 💨 running from reality. He won't accept truth even if it was proven to him. This just shows his lack of sincerity. But he will cry on cue. ISLAM is the truth, but he refuses to accept because of his ego.
@SM_zzz
@SM_zzz Жыл бұрын
@@equityjustice2695 I'm not sure where you're coming from... it kind of sounds like you're forcing him to unquestionably adopt a religion that comes from a culture very different to his own. Is that truth?
@tirianashby
@tirianashby Жыл бұрын
@@equityjustice2695 You don't know for a fact that Islam is the truth, just like how no one on this earth knows all truths. Dogmatism was discussed in this video and you are displaying it clearly now! JP is plenty sincere and your letting your own beliefs cloud an objective judgement
@equityjustice2695
@equityjustice2695 Жыл бұрын
@@SM_zzz that's not what I wrote?🤷‍♂️ Where did you get forcing anything on anyone. 🤔 Maybe your biases are projecting thoughts into your mind.
@W1llbam
@W1llbam 3 ай бұрын
Mohammed Hijab really did an excellent job asking questions here to Jordan, I definitely learnt a lot from these questions, and I say this as a European Christian.
@AKLTAXI
@AKLTAXI 23 күн бұрын
1.36 h of pure intellectual and faith bliss. Thank you all for sharing the gifts you've been blessed with!
@michaelahaight2231
@michaelahaight2231 Жыл бұрын
The good humor in this video keeps it wholesome and almost fun. The restraint to not be offended from all of these men is very impressive.
@sofiadaisy9701
@sofiadaisy9701 Жыл бұрын
I agree! The decision not to take anything personally and speak for a higher purpose means that petty things are moved past quickly and actually are taken in good humour. Good point!
@The_Chairperson
@The_Chairperson Жыл бұрын
onereason d o t org
@rockydennis4497
@rockydennis4497 Жыл бұрын
There is nothing to get upset about unless you can’t think critically enough to understand why someone may think a certain way,even if you think the opposite!!Its not necessarily that you agree,but you can see where they are coming from ,and then you just agree to disagree!!That in itself can move us forward and come to a common ground,if you are mad,you don’t grasp,you don’t accept and you go into your respective corners and the problem never gets solved!!!
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
*The ETERNAL GOD would do anything for you!!* Even out of love for you he went to the cross as a human!! Philippians 2:5-8
@phun1901
@phun1901 Жыл бұрын
Let's also appreciate this conversation would probably be illegal to have or broadcast in quite a few Muslim countries.
@MrsNiqabi
@MrsNiqabi Жыл бұрын
Can you please meet and have these kind of coversations consistently, and have a topic to discussion each time? Because we need more of these conversations.
@janinemaldonado336
@janinemaldonado336 Жыл бұрын
He has a lot of these conversations.
@youlig1
@youlig1 Жыл бұрын
Yes, we need everyone to participate though. Because we live in democratic seystems
@YusufWASD
@YusufWASD Жыл бұрын
Yes. Without Jonathon. The man just stayed silent and refused to engage the whole time, especially when Hijab gave objective and rational criticism to Christian doctrines. Pathetic. Why was he invited? Lmao. Invite someone else.
@SnowSquad_
@SnowSquad_ Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Dr. JP stays busy. Travels a lot after all Allah has blessed him with a voice of reason. He is a very honest and reasonable man. This discussion was what he had promised hijab in their previous discussion. I don't think we will these two again. I hope they do meet again though.
@mahayounis3187
@mahayounis3187 Жыл бұрын
I don’t see that philosophy most of the time and philosophy is waist of time and this is the real problem with Dr. Peterson he is good in his psychology knowledge but regarding religion he is kind of lost cause religion must be combined with reasoning and facts and evidences in addition to spiritual faith
@user-rc7lh5xp5g
@user-rc7lh5xp5g 3 ай бұрын
Why is the ending cutoff? It looks like it was going to be the best part
@martinarooney228
@martinarooney228 Ай бұрын
Likely it continues on the Daily Wire Plus.
@knoore
@knoore 4 ай бұрын
Amazing! Powerful!!
@unintelligentlifeform7180
@unintelligentlifeform7180 Жыл бұрын
Such a great discussion. I hope these 3 men can have more discussions in the future and with more time.
@MA-gv3wg
@MA-gv3wg Жыл бұрын
Christianity and Islam is religion of the East. Birthplace of the people and events happened in the East. Native American, Mexico, South America and indigenous people are religions of the West. Geographically. I’m not educated on that level of those people and they don’t even know the basics. Are you sure they have an IQ of 180+??! and university level??? Sorry, but I can’t take this conversation seriously now but I’m open to listen. Respectfully.
@SuperSaiyein
@SuperSaiyein Жыл бұрын
@UCVCWeR_4mXbAqRYLuf1Rsiw I hope less ppl like you sees this , just by the very first few seconds you made a negative assumption😂 .You belong to twitter my guy
@islamicthought206
@islamicthought206 Жыл бұрын
Islam is a vision for life. It is a system for how to live on this planet with 7+ billion human beings and make sure everyone is taken care of. It makes heroes out of boys and it makes scholars out of mothers. This Deen of Islam is the correct solution for life, and the Secular system is man made garbage. if the conversation was more focused on solutions, then the discussion would be far less about subjective views and beliefs. or random claims like "i will look at this as a psychologist" or "no I would not accept something with enough proven evidence". In the end, This video ends up being great youtube click content for likes and followers.
@jn3555
@jn3555 Жыл бұрын
@@MA-gv3wg I don’t think they were speaking in geographical terms when they say “Christianity and Islam are religions of the west”. I think they are speaking statistically with regards to the amount of people in the west that either identify as a Christian or a Muslim.
@ahmedhaaqil3903
@ahmedhaaqil3903 Жыл бұрын
@@MA-gv3wg You simply did not understand what was mentioned. And Islam, as a Muslim, we would never call it a religion of any specific place except that of the entire Earth. So would a Christian, of his/her belief. The topic at hand here, simply was in reference to the amount of people in it. As in those are the two major beliefs, in the West.
@vivianchloe9932
@vivianchloe9932 Жыл бұрын
I'm retiring next month. And I'm a bit nervous about how to keep up with my kids.
@joshualanchester1747
@joshualanchester1747 Жыл бұрын
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@vivianchloe9932
@vivianchloe9932 Жыл бұрын
please what do you mean by trade?
@joshualanchester1747
@joshualanchester1747 Жыл бұрын
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@ceciliahilda8763
@ceciliahilda8763 Жыл бұрын
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@joshualanchester1747
@joshualanchester1747 Жыл бұрын
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@cselphenator
@cselphenator 5 ай бұрын
I would have liked to hear more from Jonathan.
@duncanwashburn
@duncanwashburn 5 ай бұрын
Jordan (27:40ish) was talking about faith ... having 'faith in my faith'. Here's what Paul says about faith. Galatians 2:20 “I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the [life] which I now live in the flesh I live by faith of the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me." Because God is faithful, I believe. Imo, faith is a tricky word and to understand it, one MUST know the context. In the Judeo-Christian Scriptures, faith in much more than belief. NT James tells us that even demons belief, but to no avail. May I define what I believe the Scriptures teach about faith? First, it is God given and ALL have 'it'. Second it has three aspects, missing any one can be 'devastating'. We use this 'faith' all day every day and sometimes we use it for 'religion'. The 3 aspects of faith is 1st object, 2nd facts about the object ('truths' that may be false) and 3rd is a response to the first two. You guys want to travel thousands of miles to make your speaking engagements. You want it to be done in a timely fashion. If you want to fly on an airplane, you put your faith in the mechanics and pilots of the plane and then get on the plane. If the pilot can fly, you've have misplace faith. If you don't get on, you don't have faith. Here's how it works, imo, as a Christ Jesus follower. The Object of my faith is Jesus. Jesus is my Emmanuel (which means 'God With Me') Who died, paying for my sins. Three days later He rose from the death showing He has power over both sin and death. He calls me to believe in and follow Him. If I follow a Jesus that is not Emmanuel, I have misplaced faith. If I don't become more like Him, I have, at best, weak faith, or as James said, "dead faith".
@Mohsiy
@Mohsiy Ай бұрын
According to Islam, Christ was ascended to heaven on crucifixion and will descend on Earth on last hour and kill anti Christ and lead prayers for all believers on Earth. Christ will destroy crosses and fake christianity and erase swines from planet. The signs of last hour is here. Technological giants are welcoming anti Christ and the thing we call Artificial Intelligence could very well be the mark of the beast. (Neurolink' in numerology is 666, biblical number of mark of beast) I wish you best.
@shannonm.4087
@shannonm.4087 11 ай бұрын
I met a wonderful friend in college, and was blessed to have a similar type conversation with her, in private. She is black, I am white. We were close enough to ask each other every question about the differences we have experienced without embarressment, shame, or mincing words. She remains a blessing in my life. I understand so much more now...
@ghostrider2664
@ghostrider2664 10 ай бұрын
If we all had that, itd be the end of racism in this country.
@pavijan
@pavijan 10 ай бұрын
Can I take to dinner both of you?
@Darkseidsolosfiction
@Darkseidsolosfiction 10 ай бұрын
​@@ghostrider2664 yeah if you want to stop the racism stop separating black/white people and all those ,, representation " shit are bullshit
@alexanderspear9464
@alexanderspear9464 10 ай бұрын
What was the subject matter? Fried chicken and looting ? You must have gained so much enlightenment from a people with an average IQ of 85.
@passivelyike
@passivelyike 10 ай бұрын
Still friends?
@SVisionary
@SVisionary Жыл бұрын
I would be perfectly fine seeing these discussions extended or added to in the future. We have more in common than we don't. Educational.
@jmp814
@jmp814 Жыл бұрын
The US's 'Founding Fathers', already tried this approach of 'attempt to understand the muslim jackals, who kept killing & enslaving non-islamics indiscriminantly & without mercy or for amy apparent sane reason. They were told that that's how it's written in the q'ran & haddiths, that's how it'll remain. The result was a ban on muslims withim the US. Infortunately, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Lindsay Graham & 1 or 2 other retards removed yhay law, in the 60's or 70's. That's treason & punishable by death. muslims are blooded from an early age & are raised to - expected to inflict fear, terror & atrocities upon the infidels via the 7 types of jihad, on every occassion, while being taught to deceive manipulate & destroy everything that wasn't made via allah. Look up taharoosh/taharuush. The way muslims achieve their halal food, is the same way the satanist elites get their adrenalin packed blood from tortured children before they're killed. They both pray to the devil & get along like a house on fire. To understand the reason why they always act like cut snakes, search for video & text on halal, adrenalin, epi-pen & adrenochrome processes. All are part of the global cabal & must be forced to leave our countries - receive the penalty of death, if they don't comply.
@mags7054
@mags7054 Жыл бұрын
I would also love to see more of a conversation, discussion, in detail and dissected , of the common grounds.
@5h7va
@5h7va 5 ай бұрын
Mohammed Hijab and Sam Shamood please. Curious to know how they will discuss the inconsistencies in the Quaran
@ShahrukhKhan-un4hj
@ShahrukhKhan-un4hj 5 ай бұрын
Sam shamoun is a nobody
@ThoseRedPillGuys
@ThoseRedPillGuys 25 күн бұрын
They won't. Hijab will never let that happen. Hamza den just got bodied by godlogic, and right when Hamza brought up Sam, Sam joins the conversation. They might have a debate.
@Cosette2022
@Cosette2022 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Jordan
@laurenc6706
@laurenc6706 Жыл бұрын
As a Christian I found this absolutely fascinating. Thank you for this conversation!
@SY-cp4mb
@SY-cp4mb Жыл бұрын
I'm curious to hear what aspects of this conversation fascinated you, please?
@Alfred5555
@Alfred5555 Жыл бұрын
Me too, please.
@char377
@char377 Жыл бұрын
I can respond if you like. I suppose you could call me a Christian as I try to follow the words of Jesus and the bible, search for a closer relationship with God, and go to church meetings. The consistent “evidence” supporting my own belief in what (and who) I consider to be the way and truth has been the vast array of modern psychological, sociological and psychoanalytical findings that seem to fall perfectly in place with what God communicates to us in the bible, especially in Jesus’ teachings. Peterson points out quite a few more consistencies in this discussion, which I found fascinating. On top of that, I love his articulation of the idea that looking at stories in the bible as literal, historical, somewhat ephemeral incidences are in a way downplaying their eternal significance, because they were true then, they are now, and they will be in the future.
@char377
@char377 Жыл бұрын
On top of that, I also loved hearing from Mohammed about the consistencies with modern life which his holy book have described. On the darker side, I do believe his fervent (and no doubt religiously dutiful) attempts to convince the other two of the higher value or more rightful place of his own religion was kind of missing the point of where this conversation was intended to go. I hoped the core similarities and differences would be discussed in order to reach a further understanding of how we can coexist without conflict, but as Mohammed had suggested a few times, unity is not his main goal.
@char377
@char377 Жыл бұрын
What did you guys like/dislike?
@DisgruntledPigumon
@DisgruntledPigumon 10 ай бұрын
Conversations like this are all too rare. I thank these three people for gathering here.
@dylanmurphy9389
@dylanmurphy9389 10 ай бұрын
Christian’s who prefer modern liberalism over Islam are much further away from Jesus’ teachings than Muslims are
@amitdangwal3041
@amitdangwal3041 10 ай бұрын
this guy Hijab is a big mess. He is a trouble maker.
@akrlafoleak5168
@akrlafoleak5168 10 ай бұрын
@@amitdangwal3041 why ?
@imamspongebob2812
@imamspongebob2812 9 ай бұрын
@@akrlafoleak5168he’s a Hindu. They think from their ass don’t worry
@masudsaleh5155
@masudsaleh5155 9 ай бұрын
​@@amitdangwal3041Those who disbelieve spend their wealth to repel from Allah’s path. They will spend it, then it will become a source of sorrow for them, and then they will be defeated. Those who disbelieve will be herded into Hell. SURAH AL-ANFAL AYAT 36 إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ يُنفِقُونَ أَمۡوَٰلَهُمۡ لِيَصُدُّواْ عَن سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِۚ فَسَيُنفِقُونَهَا ثُمَّ تَكُونُ عَلَيۡهِمۡ حَسۡرَةٗ ثُمَّ يُغۡلَبُونَۗ وَٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓاْ إِلَىٰ جَهَنَّمَ يُحۡشَرُونَ
@juaqinguzman4673
@juaqinguzman4673 4 ай бұрын
This conversation was epic, we need more of this.
@stefan7285
@stefan7285 3 ай бұрын
I think you are letting Muhammed decieve you, He is a fullblown islamist and his mission is to see to that Islam dominates the world. There is absolutley no point in discussing anything with him.
@matthewthehuman1744
@matthewthehuman1744 21 күн бұрын
Another absolutely incredible conversation.
@YazYaz75100
@YazYaz75100 Жыл бұрын
Wow! This was mysitcal to say the least! I felt like a veil was pulled back that's never been lifted before. That being said, I want MORE! This needed to be 8 hours long at least, so they could each take their time and fully follow each thought, with multiple days even! God bless you all!
@ivorystinkershack3422
@ivorystinkershack3422 Жыл бұрын
I really, really, really recommend the talk between Jordan Peterson and Sheikh Hamza Yusuf to you.
@moha4411
@moha4411 Жыл бұрын
Your right that was amazing 👏
@Mk-qt2bl
@Mk-qt2bl Жыл бұрын
Read the quran already :/
@poordadrichson6115
@poordadrichson6115 Жыл бұрын
It has been lifted before, just research more about islam sister :)
@loverofhumanity
@loverofhumanity Жыл бұрын
This wasnt mystical. It was actually quite silly. One guy believes in god and the other doesn't even know what god is ot means and overcomplicates every argument until you lose track of what the point is.
@zamzezam
@zamzezam Жыл бұрын
Jonathan's patience is admirable here. Would have loved to hear more from him and hear him respond to certain things though.
@wayne8736
@wayne8736 Жыл бұрын
There was an Owl who lived in an oak, The more he heard the less he spoke. The less he spoke the more he heard oh why can't I be like that wise old Bird..
@silouanlane4767
@silouanlane4767 Жыл бұрын
@@wayne8736 amen
@lmediocregamerl
@lmediocregamerl Жыл бұрын
Muslims don't answer certain questions, due to looking pathetic and disgusting, if they do. It's pathetic.
@leonorcraveiro-ld6pz
@leonorcraveiro-ld6pz 2 ай бұрын
I love Jordan Peterson’s passion, intelligent clear mind, as for M Hijab, he kept on repeating the Quran for ever
@israel6319
@israel6319 18 күн бұрын
God bless all truth seekers 🙏
@bc5810
@bc5810 Жыл бұрын
I respect all 3 of these gentlemen for their bravery and humility to enter into this kind of a discussion in the quest for truth and peace. Bravo.
@DB-od5bx
@DB-od5bx Жыл бұрын
Why you would respect the muslim who clearly only says he has respect for Jordan to cover his overt disrespect is beyond me.
@suluklu
@suluklu Жыл бұрын
@@DB-od5bx because all 3 here are against someone with your mentality .. your way too low for the bigger picture
@Dudububu57
@Dudububu57 Жыл бұрын
one of them wants to behead those who went astray from his ideology, guess which one is it.
@prabhatbiharipandey1441
@prabhatbiharipandey1441 Жыл бұрын
@@suluklu DB is not wrong though. But one should respect all three for the fair conversation. Still I won't call it an honest conversation coz I hv seen hizab's dark side. For him everything comes down to "would you like to accept Islam?"
@suluklu
@suluklu Жыл бұрын
@@prabhatbiharipandey1441 regardless I listened to all sides and found both sides sincere on their agenda. Beautiful dialogue which is rear but it was pretty short. I believe speakers did benefit from each other too
@oldsoul8429
@oldsoul8429 Жыл бұрын
We need a pt. 2 of this discussion soon!
@TraceyMariexx
@TraceyMariexx 5 сағат бұрын
Is there a part 2 to this discussion? This is the Mohammed I love to listen to when he isn't allowing his emotions guide his intellect.. Such a great mind he has. As for Jordan, what can I say. He's a 21st century prophet of intellect. I'd also like to thank them both for coming to the table with a desire to respect the content and eachother with no desire to conquer either.
@williamkelly5567
@williamkelly5567 2 ай бұрын
God Bless You All.and I'll pray for you all
@wraithTAS
@wraithTAS Жыл бұрын
This was a calm, careful discussion on all parties and it did my heart good to hear 3 people of different opinions and faiths speak openly and freely with each other without resulting in yelling and screaming. Kudos to all ya'll.
@MIKEDIAMONDZ
@MIKEDIAMONDZ Жыл бұрын
The discussion is islamic propaganda mostly ...
@ChrisTian-cb5my
@ChrisTian-cb5my Жыл бұрын
The Muslim was a little aggressive actually
@specialk2183
@specialk2183 Жыл бұрын
It's definitely a good start of a conversation to be continued hopefully. Also from my American standpoint I remember it is written humility comes before honor.
@Sami-bs1go
@Sami-bs1go Жыл бұрын
@@MIKEDIAMONDZ implicitly you recognise islam is powerful…thanks 😆
@hannawurst6064
@hannawurst6064 Жыл бұрын
True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8
@user-pg1er7ct9v
@user-pg1er7ct9v Жыл бұрын
This blew my mind! What a pleasure and blessing to listen to such clever people!
@Diligent-dp7gi
@Diligent-dp7gi Жыл бұрын
WHAT Does GOD CALL Them.......# NOT "Clever" !! FOOLS
@Mozee854
@Mozee854 Жыл бұрын
Listen to the contents of their speech. Not the delivery.
@zomkino
@zomkino 4 ай бұрын
The best explanation for tolerance
@MapCorver
@MapCorver 2 ай бұрын
I think we need the part two of this debate
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