Darren Bent BELIEVES Kylian Mbappe Is A BETTER Striker Than Harry Kane 😱🔥

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Darren Bent and Andy Goldstein debate Harry Kane's status as a no.9 in world football.
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@tictoc900912
@tictoc900912 Ай бұрын
kane = rolls royce mbappe = lamborghini
@kmc7876
@kmc7876 Ай бұрын
Rusty Rolls Royce zero trophies..mbappe world cup
@dbxx88
@dbxx88 Ай бұрын
Kane during his time in EPL didn't play for a world class team and was still scoring 30+ a season big difference compared to most of the names being mentioned who played in world class teams
@RoadsideGee
@RoadsideGee Ай бұрын
Different players. Debate done. This show scrapes the barrel when it comes to topic matter.
@Smokey2Mc
@Smokey2Mc Ай бұрын
Mbappes explosive pace and power can't be touched but Kanes a complete centre forward finishing, heading, passing. Both are class acts.
@TheoWalcott14
@TheoWalcott14 Ай бұрын
Benty is wrong here. Kane is a better ST. With Mbappe, I think he’s more suited on the left of the attack. This is when he can make his runs or takes his full back on either skill and go by. Whenever I see him play as a ST, he gets muscled out. It’s not a surprise he was poor against Barca in the 2 legs when he was the main man and Dembele and Barcola were on the wings. He didn’t know what to do. Another example is WC 2018, albeit he was very young but this is when he was still hyped. He started ST in the first 2 group games against Australia and another country and was struggling heavy, that’s when Deschamps changed the system and put Giroud up top and Mbappe on the right, low and behold Mbappe improved and they won the WC. It’s going to be interesting to see how Mbappe can perform at Madrid when he’s a ST, with Vini and Rodrygo on the wings. His best goals have come from the left hand side.
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL Ай бұрын
Kane can't even lace Lewy's boots let alone Mbappe ..STF* with your English myopia and arrogance .. He's just a decent player nothing special
@WOOOPlays
@WOOOPlays Ай бұрын
How about Harry Redknapps Wife Sandra is a better striker than Darren Bent 🤣🤣🤣
@deedontworry
@deedontworry Ай бұрын
Sir Bobby Charlton nr.1 all day long! 🙌 He would've played even if he didn't get paid, that's how much he loved football!
@kezmankezman758
@kezmankezman758 Ай бұрын
Best players I have ever seen in my life Pele Maradona Cruyff CR7 R9 Henry Ronaldinho Zidane Messi. Kane is a very good player but I wouldn’t pay a penny to go watch him but I would clean out my wallet to watch Mbappe. Apologies to those for whom numbers are paramount, for me it’s about who excites you who makes you dream because if football isn’t beautiful to watch why waste your time ✌🏼🙏🏼
@guitarfreak888
@guitarfreak888 Ай бұрын
Mbappe can play as a 9 but that doesn't mean he's a 9. It's the same with Kane has good passing and excellent when dropping back to midfield but that doesn't mean Kane is an attacking midfielder. If anything, Mbappe resembles more like Henry.
@stevenhamilton624
@stevenhamilton624 Ай бұрын
Rooney was a monster
@dontbewoke
@dontbewoke Ай бұрын
Not in the same league as Kane , especially in international tournaments.
@chucky7826
@chucky7826 Ай бұрын
​@dontbewoke other way around you clown,kanes not in the same class as Rooney. I'm sure if Rooney had world cups playing Wales,Iran,USA and Senegal to get to a world cup quarter finals like kane he'd be laughing,
@superstrat5826
@superstrat5826 Ай бұрын
Aguero insanely disrespected in this convo, insane numbers, turned up in big games and scored the most clutch goal in PL history. Easily in the top 3 PL strikers.
@thunderjoy7250
@thunderjoy7250 Ай бұрын
Andy Cole's numbers are as good and never took penalties
@MrChrisGordonE3
@MrChrisGordonE3 Ай бұрын
Clutch? It's football not F1
@akshatbhandari827
@akshatbhandari827 Ай бұрын
turned up in big games? UCL final 2021?
@ajaycyriljose9419
@ajaycyriljose9419 10 күн бұрын
Tell me how many UCL goals does Aguero has again ?
@shoshomkhize3426
@shoshomkhize3426 Ай бұрын
Judging players on team trophies
@BlackSupremacyMustFall
@BlackSupremacyMustFall Ай бұрын
This guy just asked do you have to win to be the greatest english player…
@garywallace5602
@garywallace5602 Ай бұрын
Mbappe, is faster than Kane. Kane's better at penalties. Glad to clear up absolutely nothing!
@ajaycyriljose9419
@ajaycyriljose9419 10 күн бұрын
Kane can't deliver in high pressure games , Mbappe can.
@tedjovel1876
@tedjovel1876 Ай бұрын
Mbappes best spot is coming from the left with someone else up top as the 9
@Support-your-local-team
@Support-your-local-team Ай бұрын
The only close Mbappe v Kane debate is who speaks better English. To compare them at football is embarrassing.
@chiakurdi7940
@chiakurdi7940 Ай бұрын
I love those two guys, Andy and Darrent. They are the best.
@flynngoodwo
@flynngoodwo Ай бұрын
is that sarcasm? coz no they're not lol
@dianacarroll8860
@dianacarroll8860 Ай бұрын
Are we listening to what Darren bent thinks about strikers ? Isn’t this the guy who spat is dummy out when he missed an absolute sitter at Tottenham and rednapp said his missus would have scored that !
@larnx1692
@larnx1692 Ай бұрын
Kane and Bellingham getting shouts for 2nd best player in the world 😂 Lordieeee
@alben503
@alben503 Ай бұрын
The only thing those players have over Kane was pace and running with the ball. As soon as Henry lost a little bit of his pace when he went to Barcelona he was never a good player there
@mr.mentesh8130
@mr.mentesh8130 Ай бұрын
I guess Henry let us down at the Bernabeu when he ran over half the pitch beating numerous players and scoring to win us the tie
@lee290979
@lee290979 Ай бұрын
Harry Kane never does it when it matters in big games or finals
@Jc23732
@Jc23732 Ай бұрын
Make judgment wen he plays in the premier leauge totally different
@MrJobsworth1979
@MrJobsworth1979 Ай бұрын
Henry won champions league , world cup , Euros , League titles lol
@jaywaidson811
@jaywaidson811 Ай бұрын
Henry, owen, shearer, rooney, aguero
@malachifullerton3042
@malachifullerton3042 Ай бұрын
This kane talk is insane.. wise up lads
@Animalistic9
@Animalistic9 Ай бұрын
Benty said Drogba...
@JohnDoe-sr3qz
@JohnDoe-sr3qz Ай бұрын
different. like apples and bananas. One is a Winger the other a number 9. Kane can also play a 10 and Mbappe can play more central if necessary. Why always compare completely different players?
@David-zl9qw
@David-zl9qw Ай бұрын
He's faster that's about it
@D1craigRob
@D1craigRob Ай бұрын
Top strikers you can't not pick 1 of the liverpool strikers. Fowler, Owen, Torres, Suarez (easily no.1), SalahManeFirmino as a 3 would be the best possible top 3 pick. Personally I can't look past fowler and suarez. People seem to pass alot of liverpool players in the top players. Hyppia and Henchoz has to be considered top 3 defensive partnerships aswell.
@yakedup
@yakedup Ай бұрын
It’s because everyone hates Liverpool and their truly horrible fans
@williamedwardsanti
@williamedwardsanti Ай бұрын
The thing with these debates that annoys me is the fact I can 100% guarantee Bent doesn’t watch either of them each weekend.
@sutton1238
@sutton1238 Ай бұрын
What has he done yesterday ... tm talking about kane
@michaelgreen5857
@michaelgreen5857 Ай бұрын
Prove it in a proper league.
@akaristudiosaks5080
@akaristudiosaks5080 Ай бұрын
Im a german and i think that Steven Gerard is the Best PL English Player ever.
@Realgordongekko
@Realgordongekko Ай бұрын
kane only won spurs player of the year 3x in his career. he's won the same amount as Son. we're talking SPURS here...
@pholobangcobo9941
@pholobangcobo9941 Ай бұрын
Saying Mbappè is an all round better player than Kane is criminal.
@ragnarjakobsen7722
@ragnarjakobsen7722 Ай бұрын
Same.. our generation, Rooney!
@jonathanheywood5482
@jonathanheywood5482 Ай бұрын
Let's be honest Henry was clearly a wide forward and whilst very good certainly wasn't the best ever
@Jaml1986
@Jaml1986 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@KMD-qj1qc
@KMD-qj1qc Ай бұрын
He’s a better player, Kane is a world class top 3 striker but not as good as mbappe
@leonpalmer2429
@leonpalmer2429 Ай бұрын
As a neutral who would you pay to watch yo entertain you
@ianmacleod3079
@ianmacleod3079 Ай бұрын
Aguero is the best striker the prem has ever seen.. His numbers are better per game than any foreign player
@filmonberhane4255
@filmonberhane4255 Ай бұрын
Thierry Henry played Golf.
@JG-us9lu
@JG-us9lu Ай бұрын
Yeah the premier league.
@ashwilliams4959
@ashwilliams4959 Ай бұрын
As haaland has shown, scoring goals at city isn't impressive. Can't really go putting a roidhead in a normal competition
@ismaeladen1204
@ismaeladen1204 Ай бұрын
I cannot believe Kylian Mbappe, Mr €Billion valuation, Mr International Diplomacy, Mr Give Messi a run around is being compared to Harry Kane lol
@King-Chub
@King-Chub Ай бұрын
Vinnie is clear
@David-zl9qw
@David-zl9qw Ай бұрын
Why doesn't Aguero get mentioned he's 100% in the top 5 strikers, for me top 3.
@singerpour6946
@singerpour6946 Ай бұрын
Part of the 115 😂
@David-zl9qw
@David-zl9qw Ай бұрын
@@singerpour6946 boring mate
@mickeyhynes
@mickeyhynes Ай бұрын
Bobby Charlton, you absolute dolts.
@chd1694
@chd1694 Ай бұрын
It’ll always be romario for me.
@halfeatengamer3400
@halfeatengamer3400 Ай бұрын
So in other words, Darren Bent is wrong again.
@Fmfcg
@Fmfcg Ай бұрын
Kane's biggest trophy is being compared to Mbappe
@jaywaidson811
@jaywaidson811 Ай бұрын
Rooney, charlton, gazza, glen hoddle, gerrard, scholes, owen, john barns, beckham were all better
@Rv1333
@Rv1333 Ай бұрын
Whats this scores in a final rubbish, were now judging players of goals in on game i hate that arguement so much
@ashwilliams4959
@ashwilliams4959 Ай бұрын
No, scoring in finals or big games is an important metric. Origi is a Liverpool legend but isn't a great player. He only scored in the biggest moments, never any other time. If we were judging on the big moments he'd be 1 of the goats
@Rv1333
@Rv1333 Ай бұрын
@@ashwilliams4959 legend 😂😂 true say you did nothing for 30 years so your bars low
@millerchassis6119
@millerchassis6119 Ай бұрын
Faster yes but not a better player than Kane.
@marditoon1128
@marditoon1128 Ай бұрын
Mbappe is better than Kane. Come on now. Lets be serious
@TheLeechaolan15
@TheLeechaolan15 Ай бұрын
Best no.9's in EPL history. 13. Kane 12. Fowler 11. Rooney 10. Suarez 9. Aguero 8. Wright 7. Gudjohnsen 6. Henry 5. Anelka 4. Owen 3. Giroud 2. Shearer 1. Drogba
@martygi
@martygi Ай бұрын
Kane 13th 😂
@singerpour6946
@singerpour6946 Ай бұрын
I assume there not in order
@TheLeechaolan15
@TheLeechaolan15 Ай бұрын
@@martygi Karma Kane
@brawrecords
@brawrecords Ай бұрын
I don't think mbappe is a number nine. Kane is a better number nine, but in mbappe is a better player.
@sevvvs
@sevvvs Ай бұрын
not really a fan of both but I would say Kane is a better all around player plus gives you goals
@Photosoflife
@Photosoflife Ай бұрын
Mbappe is on a completely different level to Kane as an all around player. It’s not even close.
@Footieheritage
@Footieheritage Ай бұрын
ur defo a english lad with that take absolute faulse
@sevvvs
@sevvvs Ай бұрын
@@Footieheritage i’m Mexican man
@shanedavidbester4430
@shanedavidbester4430 Ай бұрын
So kane can't be the best English player but Gerrard is one the best English and epl midfielder😅😂😅😂 the Lord must help me with this pundits of this era
@rsamega2888
@rsamega2888 Ай бұрын
True 😊
@ThePADRAIG9
@ThePADRAIG9 Ай бұрын
Darrens agent is some genius
@makhsudulislam6464
@makhsudulislam6464 Ай бұрын
Typical English bias. Few days ago, the guy on the right was questioning Klopp's legacy because he didn't win "enough". So by that token, Kane isn't even in the conversation to be up there? Personally, I think he's up there with the very best, but what he lacks, is what Mbappe, Henry or Messi have - having that charisma and attraction of the neutrals. Every neutral would watch those three play because of the joy and excitement they bring. Kane, whilst an amazing player, is a prolific goalscorer and that's about it. Same reason, why Shearer, despite his numbers exceeding Henry's, Henry is considered one of the best ever.
@JackPaul-vs3bq
@JackPaul-vs3bq Ай бұрын
What is Darren Bent smoking? 😂😂
@user-fe5zm4ez2n
@user-fe5zm4ez2n Ай бұрын
More like what are you taking mate ?
@jonathanheywood5482
@jonathanheywood5482 Ай бұрын
Ooh what a comeback 😂😂
@JackPaul-vs3bq
@JackPaul-vs3bq Ай бұрын
​@@user-fe5zm4ez2n You'd have to be on whatever Darren just smoked to think Mbappe is a better striker than Kane. Roll me that joint, mate! 😂
@user-fe5zm4ez2n
@user-fe5zm4ez2n Ай бұрын
Allow the nonsense mate.
@user-fe5zm4ez2n
@user-fe5zm4ez2n Ай бұрын
Mbappe is a clutch player. Kane is just a stat padder of goals.
@longlife856
@longlife856 Ай бұрын
He's head n tales better than kane easily
@malachifullerton3042
@malachifullerton3042 Ай бұрын
Lads wise up .. Harry kane is total muck
@ianhall3945
@ianhall3945 Ай бұрын
Mbappe better on the left, but not better striker.
@yepthisme
@yepthisme Ай бұрын
GOLDSTEIN "MANCS"
@marc.the.red1987
@marc.the.red1987 Ай бұрын
Tbf who cares about the champions league . You want to see proper football friday night the league 1 el classico . Bigger battles than kane v mbappe .
@rohan9545
@rohan9545 Ай бұрын
Ronaldo? Bud he couldn't outscore messi in his time at spain😂
@amenboughanmi5819
@amenboughanmi5819 Ай бұрын
Use your brain Rohan I know you're a Messi worshipper. Messi played 17 seasons with Barca while Cristiano spend 9 years the goal ratio Cristiano is ahead. Messi is 0.86 whole Cristiano is 1.04 he has more goals than games so if Cristiano played the same amount of games as Messi who played 200 games more he would outsscore him by a margin. Hope you learn from this
@CampslewTraining
@CampslewTraining Ай бұрын
bent come on brother, ur not young enough not to know gazza was a football god, yea he play for spurs, but we not dem, tell the truth, 80% of players today can talk to gazza, dam sure cant talk to best .... just levels
@flynngoodwo
@flynngoodwo Ай бұрын
ofcourse Darren Bent would say that.. he's a former player who hates the spurs..terrible
@radonspace2098
@radonspace2098 Ай бұрын
So Kane is better than Mbappe?
@peterkirk123
@peterkirk123 Ай бұрын
He was a bench warmer for Jermaine Defoe
@flynngoodwo
@flynngoodwo Ай бұрын
@@radonspace2098 Kane the better striker? obviously yes.. Mbape is a wing forward , faster and more explosive
@anotherhappylanding4746
@anotherhappylanding4746 Ай бұрын
Mbappe isnt a striker so...
@Michael141-br9yp
@Michael141-br9yp Ай бұрын
Kane spent to long at spurs winning nothing and Henry is the goat
@Rv1333
@Rv1333 Ай бұрын
Kanes peak will never be near rooneys peak that guy used to absolutely petrify me as an arsenal fan 08-12 he was amazing
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 Ай бұрын
And yet Kane is the all time leading scorer in North London Derbies
@Rv1333
@Rv1333 Ай бұрын
@@GIBBO4182 cheap pens man
@Andrew-zr2fp
@Andrew-zr2fp Ай бұрын
For me Emil Heskey is up there.. but all time best? Jason Lee at Nottm Forrest... He's got a pineapple on his head!
@Thiago-VidalAquino
@Thiago-VidalAquino Ай бұрын
Mbappé Will miss 9 out 10 chances.
@dalymufc
@dalymufc Ай бұрын
FFs you swear he was dominating the knockout games all he does is score pens after being inviiible the whole match this way he never gets rated in the elite category because never show in these big knockout games. He team needed some magic last night and can never show any.
@ianmacleod3079
@ianmacleod3079 Ай бұрын
He's not though is he
@ianmacleod3079
@ianmacleod3079 Ай бұрын
Come on.. It's French league... It means nothing
@AbdirizaqDiriye
@AbdirizaqDiriye Ай бұрын
I think kane is the pest striker in the would❤😂❤
@namouche7118
@namouche7118 Ай бұрын
The fact that people rate Kane more than Henry and Drogba tells you a lot about the bias in english football
@vizuz
@vizuz Ай бұрын
I'd pick Kane over Drogba, but Henry is miles ahead of him
@Gooniessss
@Gooniessss Ай бұрын
Why not? He has better numbers than both and more international goals than Henry. Your English bias comment sounds stupid when you have an English striker saying Mbappe is better?
@Tebohomotitimi
@Tebohomotitimi Ай бұрын
​Says everything about how you feel about winning.
@namouche7118
@namouche7118 Ай бұрын
@@Gooniessss if you were intelligent enough you would have noted the reason why Bent picked Mbappe over Kane: clutch moments. Aside from the numbers that Kane has, can you mention the number of clutch moments and top performances in big games he has compared to Henry and Drogba? Or your just a stat merchant?
@Gooniessss
@Gooniessss Ай бұрын
@@namouche7118 Saying "clutch" moments answers a lot about your intellect. He's been top scorer in the Bundesliga, Premier League and a World Cup. He is currently joint top Scorer with Mbappe in the Champions league. Yeah, lets just paper over numbers and stats because we don't want to pick a striker based off stats. My argument was why can't we question whether Kane is a better strike than mbappe, not that he is. My argument was more on how silly it is to claim bias English media when Bent is saying Mbappe is a better striker if you bothered to read the comment.
@fullclipzzz1278
@fullclipzzz1278 Ай бұрын
this show should be called 2 clueless numptys talk football
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL Ай бұрын
Oh My God the utter disrespect to Mbappe and football itself..Mbappe is MILES clear
@disclaimer.imjokin
@disclaimer.imjokin Ай бұрын
The English are so overrated
@KarisBaya
@KarisBaya Ай бұрын
Likes zipande basi
@benlowe578
@benlowe578 Ай бұрын
mbappe is way better than Kane. it's not close
@therabbitwhisperer4538
@therabbitwhisperer4538 Ай бұрын
That why kane scored more u fuked?
@jamiebaker8017
@jamiebaker8017 Ай бұрын
He hasn’t got all most nothing to show for it he has absolutely got nothing to show for it.. he cannot be Englands best ever player… and I think kane is brilliant even though he played for spurs and I’m a gooner… letissier was better, scholes, lampard, giggs, both Ashley and Carlton Cole, Ian wright, sol Campbell, Gerard are all better than kane could ever hope to be… must I go further?? Kane is top 50…. Just
@frglrk
@frglrk Ай бұрын
Henry bottled!? But Harry Kane is ahead of him because… wait… which Final was Kane great in?
@Reeq_DC
@Reeq_DC Ай бұрын
I didn't watch Shearer but my list goes Wayne Rooney Drogba Kane Augero Swarez
@Mary-tq4ge
@Mary-tq4ge Ай бұрын
I take offense in people comparing Henry to Kane, unbelievable
@grimetip
@grimetip Ай бұрын
All this show has become is a hypithetical comparison or click bait show. Darren talks from his racial or anti England bias most days and it goes unchecked. Sick of the guy
@iioreoyziioreogang7972
@iioreoyziioreogang7972 Ай бұрын
English privilege. Kylian is Miles ahead
@ianmacleod3079
@ianmacleod3079 Ай бұрын
As a striker? Give over,
@jamjam2833
@jamjam2833 Ай бұрын
Rubbish!!
@jamjam2833
@jamjam2833 Ай бұрын
Totally different players and give it a rest with your English privilege nonsense!
@philip013
@philip013 Ай бұрын
When Kane was compared favourably to Lewandowski, that was also dismissed as English privilege.
@Jean-tz7ft
@Jean-tz7ft Ай бұрын
​@@philip013can't compare Lewa to Kane, kane hasn't won a thing, never made the Uefa top 10 players list before. Kane is English overhyped average player
@tinayemubaiwa3738
@tinayemubaiwa3738 Ай бұрын
WAYNE ROONEY BEST PLAYER EVER TO GRACE THE PREMIER LEAGUE
@perosauce6321
@perosauce6321 Ай бұрын
Mbappe world class best player on the planet 👏🏼 👌🏽 well done benty!!! Even a blind can see that.
@loganp4570
@loganp4570 Ай бұрын
Whats next from the English biased media?? Was Maradona as good as David Platt 😂🙈
@frankiepitt9135
@frankiepitt9135 Ай бұрын
Talk sport, home of the know alls.
@mkfge7
@mkfge7 Ай бұрын
Rooney is the best English player I’ve ever seen and I say this as someone who hates Man U. I don’t think Harry Kane comes close to Rooney.
@Photosoflife
@Photosoflife Ай бұрын
As great as Kane has been over the years, Mbappe is on a completely different level to Kane.
@liamhudspith8691
@liamhudspith8691 Ай бұрын
Playing in a league that is awful Kane is much better centre forward than mbappe
@Photosoflife
@Photosoflife Ай бұрын
@@liamhudspith8691 The irony of your comment. Mbappe already has 48 Champions League goals and is tied for 10th all time in Champions League goals with Zlatan and he’s still only 25. Kane is 5.5 years older than Mbappe and only has 29 Champions League goals approaching 31. Mbappe is better than Kane. Don’t let your English bias cloud your judgement.
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL Ай бұрын
​@@liamhudspith8691Why are English dudes so deluded and disrespectful?!! Before Kane went to Bundesliga, It was a farmers league to you but now it's the best league right Mbappe is miles better
@liamhudspith8691
@liamhudspith8691 Ай бұрын
@@Photosoflife Kane played for spurs ffs who didn’t even qualify for the champions league every year
@eL--RaL
@eL--RaL Ай бұрын
​@@liamhudspith8691Mbappe has won 1 WC and been to 2 WC finals, with a Hat-trick in a final He's got 11 WC goals Ligue 1 is in the top 5 best leagues It's disrespectful to compare him to Mbappe
@sk8r852
@sk8r852 Ай бұрын
Henry is so overrated
@user-tm8he6yg2q
@user-tm8he6yg2q Ай бұрын
Isn't it RIDICULOUS how TalkSport is asking "IS HARRY KANE THE BEST IN THE WORLD?" after Kane scored a penalty in last night's match?🤔
@Tootired4ulol
@Tootired4ulol Ай бұрын
Imagine... they overhyped their players so much... He does nothing on the pitch.
@Fmfcg
@Fmfcg Ай бұрын
Prime Lewandowski would've scored at least 1 non penalty goal in the UCL by now
@peterkirk123
@peterkirk123 Ай бұрын
@@Fmfcg Against Woolwich ?
@disclaimer.imjokin
@disclaimer.imjokin Ай бұрын
Compaimg kane to mpbappe Is outrageous... amd calling kane in the top 10 of english players is ridiculous
@michaelparsons3221
@michaelparsons3221 Ай бұрын
Jude Bellingham and is a good player but he’s not elite . If he’s not getting goals he’s anonymous.
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 Ай бұрын
Harry Kane is a bottler
@mephisto40
@mephisto40 Ай бұрын
Jamie Vardy ranks above Harry Kane ffs
@therabbitwhisperer4538
@therabbitwhisperer4538 Ай бұрын
What why he is the highest scorer in PL and England 😊😅😊😅😅
@mephisto40
@mephisto40 Ай бұрын
@@therabbitwhisperer4538 He's never won a thing in his life and he's bottled every final he's played in
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