Simon Jordan & Martin Keown CLASH Over If Chelsea Have Experienced A 'MASSIVE' Fall From Grace 🔥

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25 күн бұрын

talkSPORT's Simon Jordan and Martin Keown debate if Chelsea have experienced a fall from grace and the future of Mauricio Pochettino.
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@averageinternetuser95
@averageinternetuser95 23 күн бұрын
It must hurt Martin Keown's tremendously large ego that the best Arsenal team in 20 years won the same amount of trophies as the worst Chelsea team in the same period of time!
@curtiscoombs5193
@curtiscoombs5193 23 күн бұрын
I guess you think this chelsea team is better than arsenal team lol 😂
@Mal_Freeman0451
@Mal_Freeman0451 23 күн бұрын
​@@curtiscoombs5193That's nowhere near what he said...
@CJ4YRD
@CJ4YRD 23 күн бұрын
Arguably we had a better season 😂 we made it to a final
@TDOTSE1
@TDOTSE1 23 күн бұрын
​@@CJ4YRD what.... and got beat by academy players 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jackreynolds975
@jackreynolds975 23 күн бұрын
@@TDOTSE1 Guess it’s similar to bottling the league by losing a home game when it mattered most
@falgunighosh5779
@falgunighosh5779 23 күн бұрын
So, Chelsea buying Mudryk is a bad transfer which is a huge fault of the owners but Chelsea getting rescued by also-newly-bought Palmer is just down to luck. Hmm...
@dannyduggan4324
@dannyduggan4324 23 күн бұрын
Palmer and Gusto have been great signings. If you are going to slate them for bad signings (which is fair), you have to praise them when they get it right. Plus Petrovic has been decent and Madueke, Caicedo and Jackson are improving.
@darren6076
@darren6076 22 күн бұрын
Caicedo has been poor. Looks like a £10m player not over £100m.
@GOATBryan10
@GOATBryan10 23 күн бұрын
Martin worrying about Chelsea when the best Arsenal team in 20 years have just gone a 4th consecutive season without a trophy lol 😂
@mikem8211
@mikem8211 23 күн бұрын
Thank god the worse Arsenal team of all time won 4 FA Cups in the decade before that. We ain't Spurs bro 😂
@nobbyplies5285
@nobbyplies5285 23 күн бұрын
@@mikem8211 hee hee
@VictorVonDoom.
@VictorVonDoom. 23 күн бұрын
That’s not factually correct tho isn’t 04/05 team were better 05/06 team were better 07/08 team were just as good as the current team
@Iamwhatyousayiam
@Iamwhatyousayiam 23 күн бұрын
​@@mikem8211so down you need to bring spurs into the convo to make you feel better 💀💀
@mjay1714
@mjay1714 23 күн бұрын
Why is Martin worrying about Chelsea when Arsenal ain’t winning 💩
@aminckone.
@aminckone. 23 күн бұрын
Arsenal are in the Chamipions league. Chelsea are not...
@deckard86
@deckard86 23 күн бұрын
@@aminckone. Chelsea have won the thing twice. Arsenal have not...
@arranmelaugh5606
@arranmelaugh5606 23 күн бұрын
@@deckard86there’s no answer to that for arsenal fans 😂
@eiler1987
@eiler1987 23 күн бұрын
@@aminckone. it’s cool to be in it. But even better to lift it. (x2) “Champions of Europe you can’t say that”
@peluminova2515
@peluminova2515 23 күн бұрын
​@@aminckone. Arsenal fans act like they're in it to win it lol. Jokers
@Neo_Rain146
@Neo_Rain146 23 күн бұрын
My word Keown is full of nonsense. No Chelsea fan thought we were going for the title this season. We would’ve been happy with top 4. We got Europe which is acceptable under the circumstances. Yes we spent a lot but with new owners, a whole bunch of players going and new ones coming in then by all metrics this young team has done ok. Why wasn’t he waffling this a couple seasons ago when his team kept finishing 8th?
@user-rp1td1qf7u
@user-rp1td1qf7u 23 күн бұрын
Keown also skipping over the fact that over the season Chelsea have had the most injuries in the league by a considerable distance, 52 injuries over the course of the season Newcastle were 2nd with 36
@Neo_Rain146
@Neo_Rain146 23 күн бұрын
@@user-rp1td1qf7u Exactly, that never gets mentioned but I see Erik Ten Hag use it as an excuse every press conference and we’ve had more injuries than them! Arteta blamed last seasons bottle job on saliba being injured. Fact is the season wasn’t great but acceptable as it’s something to build on. Had we finished 10th it would’ve been a lot harder to accept. The team just needs a proven goalscorer, a decent CB and a bit more cutting edge next season and I think we can surprise a lot of people.
@user-rp1td1qf7u
@user-rp1td1qf7u 23 күн бұрын
@@Neo_Rain146back 4 when fit would be James fofana colwill chillwell and how many games have they played between them,lavia has literally played about 30 minutes all season, nkunku has hardly featured and Fernandez has been playing with an injury majority of season
@Bobbywoodhogan
@Bobbywoodhogan 23 күн бұрын
Yeah I’ve heard a few say that I never thought we would be title challengers
@nametsego
@nametsego 23 күн бұрын
"We haven't got money to waste at arsenal football club" Spent 700 million with arteta and have won less than Chelsea lmaoo
@yemi9196
@yemi9196 23 күн бұрын
Maybe because chelsea has spent 2 billion pounds in that same time
@ET.1506
@ET.1506 23 күн бұрын
@@yemi9196we have a net spend of around £600 million pounds in the past 5 years
@yemi9196
@yemi9196 23 күн бұрын
looking at what arsenal was before the less that 700 million spend. Where they are now is an achievement. Chelsea spent 2billion on a team that just won the champions league and they came 6th in the league. Somehow their fans are happy with it
@si4632
@si4632 23 күн бұрын
Difference is Chelsea also sell players for big money ​@@yemi9196
@thegamehelperz2746
@thegamehelperz2746 23 күн бұрын
​@@yemi9196😂😂now it's 2 billions? A champions league is something u will never witness in your arsenal supporter lifetime😂😂😂
@kenadams5918
@kenadams5918 23 күн бұрын
Simon Jordan simply doesn’t lose these debates, love him 😂
@bluemoon1716
@bluemoon1716 23 күн бұрын
It's a pretty low bar to be honest. Martin isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. Anytime Simon goes up against any intelligent person he folds
@pigchamp3627
@pigchamp3627 23 күн бұрын
Gay
@DJCoates91
@DJCoates91 22 күн бұрын
he’s a clown and tries to bamboozle with big words. Terrible hypocrite and terrible former club owner.
@IMAC1776
@IMAC1776 23 күн бұрын
There isn’t one Chelsea supporter in the country thought Chelsea were going for the title this season. Very few thought Chelsea could finish higher than 6th after the carnage Boehly caused in 2022-23.
@Nick-ht5yi
@Nick-ht5yi 23 күн бұрын
Some people just intentionally ignore context to push the narrative they want to see play out. Last season was no doubt disgraceful, but it's insane to think someone can look at this season and think Chelsea is still falling
@manofthenorth6372
@manofthenorth6372 23 күн бұрын
Did Chelsea have a good season? - went to a cup final - went to a cup semi-final - finished 6 places above from where they were last season. - bought a completely new sqaud and still better than Man U - only 3 points behind spurs - in 2024 accumulated 4 most points.
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 23 күн бұрын
So a bad season then. No trophies and finished 6th behind villa and spurs
@andymore62
@andymore62 23 күн бұрын
You cannot be serious. Second highest wages in the league, most transfer fees spent in the last few years, and it took a huge charge to even get into Europe. Newcastle, United, and Spurs all had bad seasons and lots of injuries, and Chelsea still couldn’t make top 4.
@BLGClipsx
@BLGClipsx 23 күн бұрын
⁠@@andymore62you do know Chelsea had the most injuries this season right? It’s funny how you brought up injuries for Newcastle, spurs, and United but not for the MOST injured team in the league this season. You’re a funny guy 🤡😂
@andymore62
@andymore62 23 күн бұрын
@@BLGClipsx Who were your big injuries? Fofana? He’s been hurt his whole career, same with Reece James, and Nkunku. Pretending Chelsea, the biggest spenders with the second highest wage bill, had a good season back dooring into Europa is mental illness.
@dt73034
@dt73034 23 күн бұрын
@@BLGClipsxthis guy just pullin stats out of his ass 😂😂😂😂 second highest wage bill when we only have 2 players over 200k a week and that’s Sterling who’s probably leaving next month and James who’s our captain and best player lol, and we had more injuries than any team in history of prem this season 😂😂😂
@CJ4YRD
@CJ4YRD 23 күн бұрын
This is gonna be the biggest bit of cinema if Chelsea can complete a rebuild and win the league again before arsenal 😂
@lukecritten4050
@lukecritten4050 23 күн бұрын
It will happen. Not If. It will.
@CJ4YRD
@CJ4YRD 23 күн бұрын
@lukecritten4050 I wish I could be that confident.. but with the clowns upstairs we can only hope 🤣
@claudemakelele2856
@claudemakelele2856 23 күн бұрын
It will happen. For sure
@doubleeph8920
@doubleeph8920 23 күн бұрын
I told a mate over the weekend exactly this!
@Insertnamehere287
@Insertnamehere287 23 күн бұрын
Oh Mate I’d bet on it, Arsenal are specialists in failure
@kaushiksaha5671
@kaushiksaha5671 23 күн бұрын
Boehly and co have had to replace Kante, Kovacic, Jorginho, Mount - the entire UCL winning midfield, Azpi, Alonso, Rudiger, Christensen - their UCL winning back 4, Pulisic, Havertz, Werner, Ziyech - all their UCL winning forwards, Kepa, Mendy - all their UCL GKs. Some were getting old, some were out of contract, some were not consistent enough. Not to mention having to replace CHO, RLC, Emerson, Gilmour, Batshuayi and other squad players too. It is important to keep in mind the context while talking about the 1 billion spend. They did not add to the UCL squad but completely overhauled it!
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 23 күн бұрын
They didn’t have to do all of that they chose not to give rudiger and mount contracts. That was their choice to do that. Same with a lot of other guys, glamour and batshuayi were constantly on loan before new owners. The lies you lads tell
@chelseafc8563
@chelseafc8563 23 күн бұрын
@@tevildo45 many forget the sanctions put in place for Chelsea. Under that transfer ban we were unable to buy or sell players and also unable to negotiate new contracts for the players currently owned! So all with this financial situation, UK government forcing Roman to sell, freezing assets, etc…most players has to go
@harryevans1347
@harryevans1347 22 күн бұрын
@@tevildo45 Your conveniently forgetting the transfer ban, Our Club being taken away from us by the UK gov, New owners came in and sold the first team, thats happened and thats the truth, OBVIOUSLY the owners had their way of going forward, it was bold and its starting to pay dividends, also that was THEN ,this is NOW. so your comment makes no sense its just moronic and salty.
@Omidan
@Omidan 23 күн бұрын
Arsenal won the participation trophy 🏆
@oshanepagon2121
@oshanepagon2121 23 күн бұрын
CLOWN KEOWN 😂😂 his words 'im confident arsenal will win the title" did they ??😂😂
@emmanuelumoren5230
@emmanuelumoren5230 23 күн бұрын
Martin Keown finished his career as a footballer & became a clown. Every Chelsea fan didn't expect to ein titles this season. A team of youngsters put together in same season? No chance. Qualifying for European football is a good start. Getting to 2 domestic cup semifinals is a good start. This Chelsea team will likely win another league & European title before arsenal, yet again.
@yemi9196
@yemi9196 23 күн бұрын
Chelsea fans wants arsenal fans to be sad for getting 2nd in the league and qualifying for champions league but are happy to be 6th and qualifying for Europa league. You really can't make this up
@thegamehelperz2746
@thegamehelperz2746 23 күн бұрын
Well said, arsenal fan comparing themselves to this current Chelsea team just show that they reached their ceiling already😂😂. We are the last London club holding the biggest trophy and they can't do sh*t about it even when we struggle with problems and the gouvernement interven to give them a boost.😂😂😂
@richardsather6010
@richardsather6010 23 күн бұрын
One thing that both Arsenal and Chelsea hsve in common is that they so far the glory days that they are unable to recruit the greatest players in football. All that they can attract are "has beens".
@thegamehelperz2746
@thegamehelperz2746 23 күн бұрын
@@richardsather6010 only real Madrid can recruit the greatest players u are talking about. Ppl recruit potentials and those become world class if not they were has been. U just need to look at city's team to understand that so the unable to recruit greatest players statement is false😮‍💨😮‍💨
@emmanuelumoren5230
@emmanuelumoren5230 23 күн бұрын
@@thegamehelperz2746 thanks for your beautiful response. Apt
@seasonedbeefs
@seasonedbeefs 23 күн бұрын
Champions of Europe, you'll never sing that. Sit down shut up keown 😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
@Olaami
@Olaami 23 күн бұрын
Martin Keown expect so much of Chelsea, but always find excuses for Arsenal who haven't won the league in 20 years, or any european trophy ever. What a joker
@CiaranChelsea
@CiaranChelsea 23 күн бұрын
They won the champions league your absolutely right. Something Arsenal has not done 🤣🤣🤣
@bickenbackbeinbool771
@bickenbackbeinbool771 23 күн бұрын
Loved it!!😂😂😂
@yemi9196
@yemi9196 23 күн бұрын
Chelsea not closing to having the 13 league titles arsenal have.
@CiaranChelsea
@CiaranChelsea 23 күн бұрын
@@yemi9196 okay mate. Still A bit bitter from yesterday. Go home
@Graziak5
@Graziak5 23 күн бұрын
@@yemi9196Chelsea will win 13 titles before Arsenal win 2 champions leagues
@FirstLast-ur6xt
@FirstLast-ur6xt 23 күн бұрын
@@Graziak5before Arsenal win 1*
@bizzareblackout8073
@bizzareblackout8073 23 күн бұрын
Please never get Mr Arsenal to talk about Chelsea 😭. Simon cooked
@user-rn9co7jc4t
@user-rn9co7jc4t 23 күн бұрын
I don’t want to hear from Arsenal fans about Chelsea Two seasons of bottling the league and coming close doesn’t erase the fact that the last 20 years where Arsenal have been drowning in mediocrity, Chelsea have been winning trophies left and right and not just participating like Arsenal were Pipe it down Gooners, Pipe it down
@carefreedax1905
@carefreedax1905 23 күн бұрын
Finish midtable for one season and the whole club is doomed 🤦‍♂️😂😂 we’ve only been out of Europe for ONE season and now we’re already back in. New owners, new players, lots of injuries and we finished 6th. Not bad, must do better though. If Chelsea are failures for not being instantly successful then what are United?
@mrgzola25
@mrgzola25 23 күн бұрын
Martin forgets Arsenal went 7 years without being in the Champions League. Very short memory
@Photosoflife
@Photosoflife 23 күн бұрын
Somewhere along the line a lot of people, including these pundits, appear to have forgotten Chelsea finished 12th last season with only 44 points. Chelsea not only finished with 63 points, a 19 point improvement over last season but also finished 6th and are literally the youngest side in the entire EPL. Finally, these pundits mocked Poch for previously bringing up the fact Chelsea are actually 4th in xG this season. The reality is points won and only points won matter at the end of the day. But Chelsea have literally won the 4th most points in the league since the start of January. What has happened is Chelsea’s young talented side is not only coming together but they are actually finishing their chances. Because Chelsea have actually dominated and outshot the vast majority of their opponents, even in matches they drew and lost. They have actually been playing to their exact xG for the second half of the season. Poch should definitely stay and anybody who objectively watches Chelsea know they have a ton of talent and have massively improved this season.
@DominoEffect2528
@DominoEffect2528 23 күн бұрын
Seriously, no one cares about xG's. It's such an overused metric. Only goals win games. Officials aren't chalking up expected goals on a separate scoreboard and deciding the results on that.
@Photosoflife
@Photosoflife 23 күн бұрын
@DominoEffect2528 You must not have read my original post carefully.
@chevarradio3854
@chevarradio3854 23 күн бұрын
Chelsea always have been playing well sometimes its the mentality of the boys and the manager changes plus they young some only coming for the first some still not settled in London and the new owners it takes time to get comfortable and settled with a club your new too new staff new team mates some guys are lucky to have countrymen to rally on but I think the way we just ended this season next season we might jus blow the opps away
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 23 күн бұрын
@Photosoflife Because your original post is total waffle. On about the most points since January, newsflash the season starts in august !
@P.T18
@P.T18 23 күн бұрын
I can never understand poch. No idea what he said / meant there
@martinharvey580
@martinharvey580 23 күн бұрын
Marton Keown has no clue what he on about half the time.
@Dalwhat
@Dalwhat 23 күн бұрын
Chelsea won as much as Arsenal did.
@user-re9fu2ov6u
@user-re9fu2ov6u 23 күн бұрын
Even when he is reading a script and being prompted by the producers. These are all in the biggest $hit bubble . This channel allows cowards , racists , . These have no respect for themselves and yet talksPOOrt peddle them out every day.
@arranmelaugh5606
@arranmelaugh5606 23 күн бұрын
Just spouts anything arsenal
@seasonedbeefs
@seasonedbeefs 23 күн бұрын
Keowns idea of doing business is having a cuppa during the breaks
@paulsutch907
@paulsutch907 23 күн бұрын
you cant compare anything the team has done this year with anything under potter or tuchel its a completley new set of players and totally different scenario.
@zakbar11
@zakbar11 23 күн бұрын
We were always going to have a tumultuous couple of seasons with new ownership and a completely new squad. Martin Keown should worry about how Arteta has only won one FA Cup in his multi year tenure. Arsenal might be doing well but you don't get a trophy for coming in second. Also, Keown saying Palmer carried Chelsea is only part true let's not forget even Nico Jackson has 14 league goals on his debut more than 70 million Havertz. Arsenal have spent 700 million and have one trophy. Same as Ten Hag.
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 23 күн бұрын
Your owners have spent 1 billion and have no trophies, finished 12th and barely scraped into Europe. Now you’re pretending this is success
@pedrosp5969
@pedrosp5969 23 күн бұрын
Keown is angry and bitter that Chelsea are on the up while Arsenal are not improving- going from 2nd to 2nd. Nothing objective about anything he's saying. He's worried that the normal balance of power in the london clubs is soon to be restored.
@dalitsokadzinje9396
@dalitsokadzinje9396 22 күн бұрын
🤣🤣😂
@cherubinramsey795
@cherubinramsey795 23 күн бұрын
"this will carry on during the break" ... we still want to hear 😂
@albanroylyngdoh1296
@albanroylyngdoh1296 23 күн бұрын
Simon massive respect to you
@planetebeautecali4485
@planetebeautecali4485 23 күн бұрын
Chelsea are experiencing something similar to Ac Milan when their Millionaire Owner had to sell the Club with Scandal around him.
@choppaa4204
@choppaa4204 23 күн бұрын
Chelsea went up 6 places from Last season. More improvement than any other team in the prem. Let Poch cook.
@user-bu8fj3rj4j
@user-bu8fj3rj4j 23 күн бұрын
Well done - that’s a great achievement
@arnoldsaunders6073
@arnoldsaunders6073 23 күн бұрын
And we are scoring goals.
@doubleeph8920
@doubleeph8920 23 күн бұрын
​@@user-bu8fj3rj4jA 19 point swing and 30 plus goals swing to boot!😊
@BoneStarr2k
@BoneStarr2k 23 күн бұрын
So much chest from Arsenal fans, they still haven't won anything since that FA cup, Martin needs to hush hush
@jackbexhell
@jackbexhell 23 күн бұрын
Martin's head looks like it needs some chalk. Looks like a cue tip 😂
@seasonedbeefs
@seasonedbeefs 23 күн бұрын
Can't unsee it 😂😂
@HairSystemDIY
@HairSystemDIY 23 күн бұрын
Did Arsenal experience a massive fall from grace when they came 8th twice, Martin?
@si4632
@si4632 23 күн бұрын
Twice 🤣
@user-nl2qn1jt7d
@user-nl2qn1jt7d 22 күн бұрын
Chelsea have the youngest team in the EPL and 2nd youngest team in Europe combined! I also love the fact that the club’s wage bill has significantly reduced to being 4th on that list after Arsenal. If they make it to Europa, it would be a great step in the right direction from 12th to 6th, a final against Liverpool and 3rd place finish in the FA Cup all while battling with the highest number of injuries in the league and a constant barrage of gossip and toxic energy from the fanbase. Well done POCH, get a clinical finisher and an solid CB to challenge for top 4 next season and win any of the cup trophies. Progress!
@harrisonstock6674
@harrisonstock6674 23 күн бұрын
That Pepe comment😂😂😂
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 23 күн бұрын
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
@GamerFrisco
@GamerFrisco 23 күн бұрын
Sir Spectre & Sir Simon = top LADS Proper Clobbers 💯 Facts 👌
@MW92.
@MW92. 23 күн бұрын
BIIIIIG FACT DROP RIGHT THERE! The kids today will never understand. Simon = top LAD proper clobber
@TradeIQ_Profits
@TradeIQ_Profits 23 күн бұрын
Clown, Arteta took 5 years to win 2nd, they operated in 8th for 2 years while Poch took Chelsea from 12th to 6th in 1 year
@grndouwn7338
@grndouwn7338 23 күн бұрын
Keown is such a drip
@SuperMrdp
@SuperMrdp 23 күн бұрын
Martin Keown doesn't even make an arguement he grabs whatever he reads in the headlines and just spits them out without any context for that whole time.
@terrypietru8012
@terrypietru8012 23 күн бұрын
Keown, The Chelsea and Arsenal deal for mudryk were 'identical', don't take my word for it, look up shaktar direct general Serhii Palkin's comments on the deal. Do your homework.
@si2k
@si2k 23 күн бұрын
yes true, they accepted the chelsea offer as the payments were better
@terrypietru8012
@terrypietru8012 23 күн бұрын
@@si2k that's not what Palkin said, he stated ( not quoting verbatim) the initial transfer fee was very identical ( agred by all) the add ons were very similar but shaktar were more confident that chelsea's model was more likely to deliver the 'add ons' in the long term ( eight year contract).
@si2k
@si2k 23 күн бұрын
@@terrypietru8012 So they should be
@ftv555
@ftv555 23 күн бұрын
You did it with boy Pepe 😅😂
@kevingates8339
@kevingates8339 23 күн бұрын
Martin is so deluded
@scottcampbell3644
@scottcampbell3644 23 күн бұрын
Kelly Brook has put on weight...
@chisomagannaji
@chisomagannaji 23 күн бұрын
I don’t know if it’s stupidity or ignorance that makes arsenal fans think they are doing better than Chelsea. You’ve won nothing at the best seasons in 21yrs. Talk about getting used to shame smh
@yemi9196
@yemi9196 23 күн бұрын
By your logic, chelsea is not doing better than nothingham forest. Also, by your logic, chelsea and Nottingham forest have same odds of winning the premier league next season. If you agree, then case closed.
@davevincent5453
@davevincent5453 23 күн бұрын
Just open opinions and nonsense to think Poch will be leaving
@Budumpum
@Budumpum 23 күн бұрын
It’s funny how Chelsea is broken and Pochettino needs time to fix it, but Manchester United need to sack Ten Hag because it’s a disgrace. Pundits are jokers
@thegamehelperz2746
@thegamehelperz2746 23 күн бұрын
How many years was ETH in united again? He's going downward not forward so I can understand fans frustration😂😂. And if u take the situation since Ukrainian war started, Chelsea is the most broken club in Europe top 5 leagues big teams
@claudemakelele2856
@claudemakelele2856 23 күн бұрын
Lol..Keown had to mention we got thumped by Arsenal. But the truth is in our worst even season, we still did better than his beloved Bottlersernal
@user-jj8mn9ce2f
@user-jj8mn9ce2f 23 күн бұрын
He was talking about Chelsea great end to season which started after that game, what do think he should’ve said in your tinted glasses “Chelsea out of nowhere suddenly became good it had nothing to do with being embarrassed by a rival things just magically clicked for last 8 games of season” 🤦‍♂️
@claudemakelele2856
@claudemakelele2856 23 күн бұрын
@@user-jj8mn9ce2f Arsenal bottled back to back title. That's all I need to know. Chelsea will improve and win the title before Arsenal. Wait and see.
@user-jj8mn9ce2f
@user-jj8mn9ce2f 22 күн бұрын
@@claudemakelele2856 it’s funny how people say arsenal bottled it last year and this one when they lost title to a team that’s only been beaten to title once in last 7 years, if arsenal would’ve gone up a gear last 2 seasons do you seriously think that city wouldn’t either? This is a city that has beaten a team to title that got 92 and 97 points in a season
@nicholasbolas
@nicholasbolas 23 күн бұрын
Keown taking out on everyone and every club after his club bottled the league...
@michaelb1348
@michaelb1348 23 күн бұрын
Keown needs to decide … either Chelsea have been a disaster or else Chelsea have been good enough to warrant keeping Poch
@frankbutello
@frankbutello 23 күн бұрын
I think Martin is hurt and totally agree with Simon if Poch will be there next season Chelsea will be top 3 as Liverpool without Klopp maybe be not same
@AbhishekSharma-mm9tv
@AbhishekSharma-mm9tv 23 күн бұрын
Arsenal have been in 19 out of 22 seasons in champions league. And they got smacked in about 17 of them...and have never been in the running to win it.....
@doubleeph8920
@doubleeph8920 23 күн бұрын
Only one final appearance to show for it too 😂
@chrisbartram6644
@chrisbartram6644 21 күн бұрын
"This'll carry on during the break" 😂
@jayzerino
@jayzerino 23 күн бұрын
What is the point of the conference league
@GuesswhereIsMe
@GuesswhereIsMe 23 күн бұрын
That was great Martin you really showed your footballing intelligence on that one
@bryguy572
@bryguy572 23 күн бұрын
All footballing loyalties aside, objectively speaking, Keown who rarely gets it right, I think had valid points. Chelsea were a top team and the owners unnecessarily dismantled it. I think this is just undeniable. Simon couldn't deny it. They disassembled it because of their vision of having a young crop of players on long contracts to maximize the capital of their assets, slow the acceleration of the asset depreciation and ostensibly to win a league. The billion spent easily could have, should have, been used better, no question, with far better results than what's been seen. The process Simon is talking about to trust, was a self imposed process. They were already a top club. Hopefully the recruitment gets it right and the positive results Chelsea has experienced recently continue into next season. It's a big job for their Directors this summer as they're losing 3 significant pieces largely responsible for their recent uptick in results, that being Gallagher, Chalobah and Thiago Silva.
@clintonabdallah4807
@clintonabdallah4807 23 күн бұрын
What Bohely and Co did was necessary.....No chelsea fan misses any player they sold....a rebuild was necessafy for longevity...if it means sacrificing 1 season then next season after get back to playing european football then i would say Bohely and co are geniuses....they just had the guts to dismantle the slowly dying foundation en re build a new one for longevity.............for example mount is now uniteds problem...imagine if chelsea hang onto him 😂😂😂😂.....
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989 23 күн бұрын
Oh Martin lay off, arsenal haven’t won the PL in over 20 years. Chelsea don’t need your ‘concern’.
@jamiea1955
@jamiea1955 23 күн бұрын
Arsenal holds the record for being top off the league the most times at Christmas and not winning the league 😂 we talk about Spursy, but when are we going to talk about ARSEY.
@doubleeph8920
@doubleeph8920 23 күн бұрын
Chelsea have won the league every season they've been top at Christmas contrast this with Arsenal 😂
@doubleeph8920
@doubleeph8920 23 күн бұрын
Keown speaking with understanding context. Chelsea have had the most injuries in the league and had their first choice centreback pairing (Chalobah and Thiago Silva on the bench. Gusto was injured so Gilchrist an inexperienced centre back by trade played on the right. It was a patchwork defence and a team missing its best player that day. Theres no way a close to full strength Chelsea team would've lost scandalously.
@paulkearney4565
@paulkearney4565 23 күн бұрын
Our aspirations to win the league with a group of 21 year olds was never in the clubs plans for this year, this is a 3 year plan which is a sensible approach given the long term policy! Simon is 💯 correct, watch this space Arsenal 💙
@nicholasroy2960
@nicholasroy2960 23 күн бұрын
Listening to Keown I kind of understand why they want to ban headers....
@recruitmentch
@recruitmentch 23 күн бұрын
Chelsea are supposed to have had a bad season. Only finished 5 points of a champ league spot.
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 23 күн бұрын
Warra trophy for Chelsea
@philthatcher6111
@philthatcher6111 23 күн бұрын
Since boxing day 2023 Chelsea would have finished 3rd in terms of points, that's how good 2024 has been for the club. Defiently an improvement on last season, players will be more experienced and settled next season. Honestly I can see Chelsea pushing top 4 if they get a decent striker.
@argyrosmichail1008
@argyrosmichail1008 22 күн бұрын
Well done Martin well said
@drunkinclam100
@drunkinclam100 23 күн бұрын
Arsenal got Rice to improve they failed 😅
@user-ct1cj6hs8d
@user-ct1cj6hs8d 14 күн бұрын
You tell him Martin.
@petershortland478
@petershortland478 22 күн бұрын
If Arsenal were in the same situation, Keown would be praising them. If you want fall from grace look at United
@alfiehawkins296
@alfiehawkins296 23 күн бұрын
Had to listen to what Martin said at 40 seconds about 5 times until I realised he didn’t say something not suitable for air time lmao
@mattj9330
@mattj9330 23 күн бұрын
3 points behind Spurs, 5 behind Villa, shocking start to the season, huge injury list, yes they should have done better, but in terms of what people were saying in December where Chelsea would finish? They would have taken 6th
@midrangebrown
@midrangebrown 23 күн бұрын
Jordan is proper Chels 💙
@sahajshetty1844
@sahajshetty1844 23 күн бұрын
He is not a chequebook manager because he spends more than anyone else, that would just make him stupid, he is a chequebook manager because he gets his ideal choices all the time , which is impossible in an organic environment, he has never worked with a side which never knew how to win a title akin to Jose at Chelsea. No one is questioning Guardiola's process as a manager, his trophy cabinet is testament to that, however he has never faced a scenario where he has to settle for a second choice in my opinion, City is basically a lab experiment of how an ideal club would operate, zero financial risk, and a perfect operational and executive teams.
@LukasMatejka-du5hb
@LukasMatejka-du5hb 23 күн бұрын
yeah, but Arsenal in last 20 years didn't have the budget to send 1 billion down the drain in 2 transfer windows :D:D
@Luke-mb1pd
@Luke-mb1pd 23 күн бұрын
Martin is a bore how’s he even got a job as a “pundit”
@just_callis
@just_callis 23 күн бұрын
Simon humbled Martin.
@Indekenademein
@Indekenademein 23 күн бұрын
Man utd has fallen so low 🔅 one of the most well known club in the world. Fans are living in the past success. The player and the manager they have is completely rubbish.
@caamafia
@caamafia 23 күн бұрын
Won champions league 2 years ago, made Europa again. Have the youngest roster in Europe. Signed the most promising upcoming talent. And “fall from grace” 😂
@si4632
@si4632 23 күн бұрын
Tucel also narrowly lost two cup finals didnt he lol
@user-je3ji7nd4x
@user-je3ji7nd4x 23 күн бұрын
have to laugh when everyone says the scottish league is rubbish and just a two horse race and the epl is brilliant when the epl is just a one horse race and german league 1 horse race spanish league 2 horse race same with french and dutch leagues
@paulmclaughlin8038
@paulmclaughlin8038 23 күн бұрын
Do they ever agree?
@richardwebb7491
@richardwebb7491 23 күн бұрын
the narrative the narrative the narrative the narrative - change the record FFS
@bareknuckles2u
@bareknuckles2u 23 күн бұрын
They are talking about Chelsea. I'm not sure why Simon has to take pot shots at Arsenal.
@bilabijoseph5030
@bilabijoseph5030 23 күн бұрын
That Martin Keon guy do not sound particularly healthy most times mentally! How he contradicted himself so quickly here, behaved like he was against Simon & agreed with him almost immediately in a yet combative manner amazes me!
@LJDaKid91
@LJDaKid91 23 күн бұрын
Don't worry Martin our times coming
@certified-dre
@certified-dre 23 күн бұрын
Chelsea’s worst season in decades & they won the same amount of trophies as Arsenal 😐
@joshhamer5076
@joshhamer5076 23 күн бұрын
Arsenal are spurs in red, Chelsea have had there worst two seasons in 20 years, arsenal have had their best in 20 years Yet they’ve won the same amount in that time
@roykeane1922
@roykeane1922 23 күн бұрын
Man city have done a good job of allowing us all to forget who the first imposter club was
@spat3305
@spat3305 23 күн бұрын
Ikr Man Utd were that team, sad to see people forgot them.
@Blaze26909
@Blaze26909 23 күн бұрын
@@spat3305 0 ball knowledge 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣deffo a room temp iq plastic 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@recruitmentch
@recruitmentch 23 күн бұрын
What would you prefer? A couple of poor seasons post winning the champions league and thumping Arsenal 4-1 in a european final OR 'qualified for the champions league trophy' for 20 years?😂
@terrybeseick8177
@terrybeseick8177 23 күн бұрын
So short sited these days are pundits next week they will say it takes time to build new squad just a room full of contradictions and egos at talksport
@hendrix9087
@hendrix9087 23 күн бұрын
Nice one Simon i agree
@andyhello23
@andyhello23 23 күн бұрын
Nothing wrong with people having strong opinions lol Do not watch football anymore, but one would assume thiago silver is going to be hard for chelsea to replace. Class player Chelsea will never move into the bracket of a top team, roman had them for years, won everything, and they still could not get to a point where they get that place among the best teams. Chelsea today are in no better position then before i stopped watching epl, and i stopped in 2002. How did chelsea do with that time at the top, in terms of roman making them a top team, they never achieved it, despite winning everything with roman as an owner. Personally i think chelsea have not moved into the top teams league, and are still at the level before moruinho Some teams come and go, they have a brief time at top, and cannot estabilish themselves as a top team, so when that period of winning ends, they go back to what they were before. When you see liverpool, could be rubbish, and they would still keep there world wide fans. Roman brought success to chelsea, but did not make them into a tier 1 team, proving how hard that is, as chelsea won everything in those years. Arsenal really shot themselves in the foot leaving highbury. There new stadium is not highbury
@zamani8494
@zamani8494 23 күн бұрын
Honestly sir, get your biscuits, beans and seat down because you're waffling. Mid teams don't win CL twice and are still in contention for more, bar the last 18 months.
@doubleeph8920
@doubleeph8920 23 күн бұрын
You certainly left all your football sense in 2002 with your ridiculously written comment!
@notreal1477
@notreal1477 23 күн бұрын
Give keown an award for yapping. Never heard someone talk some much and say so little.
@Ghmedpage2023
@Ghmedpage2023 23 күн бұрын
Whats the argument here.. chelsea were UEFA Champions League Winners 2021 and World Champions 2022. Being invited to the inaugural FIFA Confederations Clubs World Cup. ELITE TEAMS ONLY. Where is arsenal ? What have you got tp show... the fact that you spent 600 mil doesnt mean you are better. Chelsea have Major Trophies in same 4 years to show for what spent
@legendaltair2733
@legendaltair2733 22 күн бұрын
Simons logic:: chelsea is great football team because chelsea owner is damn rich.. 😂😂😂😂😂.. Hypocrisy at its best
@user-xv8ub4lb7c
@user-xv8ub4lb7c 23 күн бұрын
Heyy Simone my guy henceforth
@rags008
@rags008 23 күн бұрын
Does Martin know the club's owner was sanctioned by the UK Government, club striped from him and the entire club tossed on its head? He is acting like we won the Champions League and just fell of form for no reason.
@grndouwn7338
@grndouwn7338 23 күн бұрын
Exactly, they like to ignore this.
@kcjones89
@kcjones89 23 күн бұрын
United failed to qualify for the Champions league but luckily dont get into the europa or conference. We can actually concentrate on the league next season. If win the FA cup and get into the Europa league that wil be the most Spursy thing ever.
@Simko3426
@Simko3426 23 күн бұрын
IF CHELSEA does not play CL minimum,it is like an ASTON MARTIN without an engine.
@Kitch17
@Kitch17 23 күн бұрын
Martin 😂😂😂
@jameswiglesworth5004
@jameswiglesworth5004 23 күн бұрын
Like how Keown say's of Chelsea, "five win's from last six games" actually it was five win's from last 5 games, the loss to Arsenal was not relevant to the sequence, but pratt that he is he had to mention it, loser mentality, typical of Arsenal.
@andymore62
@andymore62 23 күн бұрын
Chelsea won a few games against clubs like West Ham, Nottingham Forest, and Bournemouth, and all of the sudden people are acting as if all their problems are solved and they are on the fast track to title contention lol. Did we not see Arsenal bop them off the park just a month ago?
@doubleeph8920
@doubleeph8920 23 күн бұрын
Chelsea have the 4th most points since Christmas with only the top 3 getting more! The Arsenal had 3 of the 4 regular back four out and throw in Palmer who was unavailable too. If you can't understand context and facts it says a lot about your intelligence.
@andymore62
@andymore62 23 күн бұрын
@@doubleeph8920 They definitely improved over the course of the season, but they still had diabolical results in 2024 (Burnley, Sheffield United, Arsenal demolition), and with Chelsea’s aims and how bad the rest of the league has been outside of the top 3, finishing 4th best isn’t all that amazing. I still think they’re way off it given what they’ve spent.
@MikeKing-gb9uu
@MikeKing-gb9uu 23 күн бұрын
Yes chelsea had14 players out you muppet😢
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