For context - nufc are only 9 points behind their position last season, despite a massive injury list & playing in europe for the first time; during nov - dec we were limited to playing the same 11 for 6 consecutive games. We had 14 draws, whereas they've been split between wins & losses; our 5 draws this year came before October last season - last season's 5 losses came by game 15

Agree with Jordan, the way FFP is administered now is a load of nosense. Should be the same rules for every team, regardless of size.

Just put in the NBA tax system. For examples sake, assume PL clubs total revenue for a year is 10bn. If the long term aim for UEFA is 70% cost ratio, use 7bn as the marker. Divide by 20 clubs means 350m tax line for each club. Every club has the option (but not the obligation) to go over the 350m threshold. But for every £ that is spent beyond it, a further £ is taxed on the club. The total tax funds are then distributed to every team that didn't pay any tax. Some of it can also be sent further down the pyramid. This way, you can still entice more money into the league, you don't place a cap on ambition and the smaller paying clubs have an increased benefit making things more sustainable. No points deduction cases and arguments. People get to run their own clubs however they want. If teams want to "buy the title" they can try, but in doing so it not only gets more and more expensive but they directly finance their opposition too.

Okay, we went from 4th to 6th. The media is talking about Newcastle like we are about to be relegated.

Newcastle Sitting 6th even with all the injuries. If we finish the season as is it should be seen as a better achievment than last season

If Eddie gets this team finishing in Europe again he deserves a medal

They are still 6th with the one of the worst injury records in PL history. I don’t think he’s underachieving really? Surely if they had less injuries they’d be in or around 4th?

Luton have spent a lot of money by our standards, We play exciting football, we have come out on the wrong side of some great games. As a Luton fan, I’m proud of what our club has done and is doing. We still have a spirit which the players and fans buy into, we don’t leave the ground with 10 minutes to go and we clap them off because they give 100% every game, and we haven’t cheated FFP to do it. 10 years ago to the day we were conference champions

FFP actually devalues a clubs worth, if an investor can't improve things on the field,why would they invest, that's the whole point , successful competition grows the whole product, I see a club suing the football hierarchy.

Newcastle were not allowed to reinvest and build on what they had big boys dont want it and im talking about Liverpool united arsenal dont want it, its a disgrace and next season it will happen to villa just you watch

Simon Jordan massive fan but he still does not seem to get we have had more than 10 first teamers out consistently. It's not rocket science why the fall off this season.

No debt no debt no debt.. Transfers paid in full

When was this even recorded? Seems odd to release this off the back of a 4-0 win against spurs when they sit in 6th?

When was this filmed? Eddie's turning it around 🖤🤍🖤

In my opinion if FFP is ever going to work salary caps have to be introduced, similar to US sports. That would make things more 'fair play' maybe not perfect but a start. However 'free market forces' may have an issue with that.

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Thank you Simon!!! However you were not wanted to share your fix its.

Winter signings aren't always bad deals. Evra, Vidic, Van Dijk, Suarez....all of those were January transfers

Souness - THIS IS A SERIOUS CAKE

Souness is more Logical than all these so called “be careful what you wish for merchants”.

man talksport is just a big W

Reality is sacking Howe presents two problems. Finding someone better but also finding someone better is going to cost money in turn making ffp even worse for us. Eddies our man

This was all started to prevent clubs disappearing. Seems the best was would be to put the clubs, intellectual property and stadium into a status similar to listed building. Have a board of trustees that can revoke ownership by unanimous vote if the club is in administration. The owners effectively become owners of the rights to everything about the club up until administration allows the trustees to revoke ownership and put the club up for tender without the ownership having any rights or say in the matter. The government did this with Chelsea over abramovic, sot eh same could have been done for Portsmouth years ago and Bury more recently. This would at least have mitigated a lot of the pain and, in the worst case, the winding up of the club.

Agree with different set of rules for newly promoted clubs, but Everton? - simply poor management, and does need some action

Do you think that Kompany is trying to do the same thing as Ange P, that is, being headstrong on a specific style/culture at the expense of playing the same brand of football most other teams play? Both managers have a lot of faith and had success with their methodologies but once you go to the next level (i.e. the EPL) they need the next level of player to carry on their philosophy - that takes a few transfer markets to implement. I would not be surprised to see Burnley back in the EPL for the 2025/26 season with a stronger squad playing the same style.

I was wondering whether Graeme was gonna suggest that clubs should follow the Jock Stein model. After all he managed to win the European Cup with all young local players that he knew and barely spent any money at all. Not only was it beautiful football it was totally against the way teams played at the time.

Simon, you didn't think Eddie would keep us up! You also bet Jim White we would'nt make Europe. When are you going to learn your lesson and button it? Just loves to talk nonesense about Newcastle, his ratings must be low.

The style of football thing is not new. 10 years ago, I can recall supporters in the Conference complaining about the need for managerial change when an overachieving, newly promoted, part time were going from back to front in a league full of full time teams with up to 4 and 5 times the budget

How can sourness say they should have known that "it would have been an open secret".... the landscape has changed massively now. No longer do players go in a bookies. You can place bets from you favourite seat in your living room without anyone knowing.

Taking advice on financial football matters from Simon Jordan is like asking Osama Bin Laden for advice on building skyscrapers.

it’s a shame talksport have great shows like this and also dross like Rory Jennings

Why doesn't Moshiri keep the new Stadium and just p.....off. All we want is a good football team!!!😂

Fan since 1965 .50% unhappy split, you need to listen to the fans, not just to REDSPORT, Moyes Dire football, £400 mill + Spent. I have stopped going to wat my team, will go back once he has left. COYI Jordan take on Company not changing, but OK with Moyes not CHANGING.

After 4 years and 400mill spent moyes leaves us with the oldest and smallest squad in the prem

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it really is a spectacle for your average football fan to be able to watch many of the world’s great players in the EPL. One problem is those teams coming up cannot compete due to budget restrictions. Another issue from an English perspective is the lack of opportunities for young players. Maybe it’s time to restrict the number of non British players?

S wrong about Burnley and Burnley fans, we have no expectations and don't care what league we are in. Championship is much more fun for supporters of any club

FFP clearly isn’t fit for purpose as it stands. It needs changing

So Talksport had to give Souness his own show....LOOOOL.

⚽They should allow clubs to spend/lose more money, as long as the transfers are from within the UK - it would keep more money within UK football & allow teams to more leeway to try to compete💰

I’d relegate and promote more teams to promote the wealth. maybe 5 up and down.

Newcastle is all down to injuries. Willock missed pretty much the whole season injured while Joelinton has missed half the season which is 2/3 of the midfield while tonali has been banned so squad is weaker than last year while playing more tougher games. A lot of games not having any options from the bench has cost us and we have lost the most days to injury with a 17 year old having to play 18 times!

His problem arise came when he took the Man Utd job on & he should have rejected it!

If teams like newcastle continue to get European football, their finances will increase and then they will be able to spend more.

Why doesn’t Simon understand the concept of overachieving? In business you set targets and if it surpasses them,surely that’s overachieving. Jordan just doesn’t like giving credit to managers and players, but will give plaudits to his owner mates

Football clubs are business what other business stops you investing get rid of ffp just take debt away

Simon bashes Chelsea and their American owners and criticises them for trying to bring in their American ways. Now his brilliant idea for FFP is exactly what they do in the NBA. There’s a cap on spending; you can spend over the limit if you need to, but you pay a “luxury tax” on any amount spent above the threshold.

The fact is........weve had 11 1st teamers unavailable all season, that has seriously impacted us! You dont seem to understand that!

Last year Newcastle did well because clubs like MANU, Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham, etc. played poorly. This year Tottenham, Liverpool, and Aston Villa have improved, and Newcastle have been hit with an unusual number of long-term injuries.

Such a bad season being in 6th

Lol ebt souness discussing ffp 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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It’s become a farcical framework I’m afraid The Premier League is 25% Hunger Games 25% Hunger Games Media (Sky Sports) 25% Scripted Wrestling 25% Ted Lasso No transparency I’m done It’s rancid

It's not rocket science Tell clubs they can only spend what they earn and no debt it's quite simple. Or let them spend what they like, but if they get into financial trouble, relegate them to league one or two. It's really not rocket science

It's a given Simon Jordan doesn't read these messages but I'll give it a go all the same. First and foremost, it isn't 10% of West Ham supporters that are sick of the sight of Moyes, its nearer 75% want him out. A very large majority. Why? Lets list a few reasons. Since he has been at the club, he has spent near on £450 Million on players. And what do we have to show for it? The second smallest squad in the league, The second oldest squad in the league. His total waste of club funds buying players and then having to sell them because they do not fit his system, or he just doesn't like them is outrageous. His attitude absolutely stinks. When everything is going well, it's all his idea, it's his tactics, it's his personality, its his man management. When everything is going bad, it's the players fault, it's the refs fault, it's the fans fault. In his eyes he cannot put a foot wrong. His tactics absolutely suck, or should I say tactic. His ultra low block. 11 men behind the ball in the hope we can keep the opposition from scoring. Hoping on the off chance we can punt the ball up to whoever has the unenviable task of trying to hold the ball up for players to break forward and try to score. When you have a team who can't pass forward for toffee, it is rare this happens. And he doesn't just do this against the big teams, it is every team in the league. His small squad he loves to work with. He puts the same 11 players on the pitch every game barring injuries. And when it comes to making subs, he brings the same players on at the same time of the game, with no change of system, or tactic, and it is usually a defensive player, winning or losing. His substitutes or lack of has cost us so many points. And lets talk about players he falls out with and refuses to play. Cornet for instance. A great player who upset Moyes, and now can't get a sniff of a game. Even if we need an attacking players on the pitch, nope he brings on a defender to play up the top of the pitch. The youth squad, well forget it lads, you're not getting a game while Moyes is in charge. Unless we are down to the bare bones and no way of fielding 11 players. We have one of the very best youth teams in the world, all being wasted. And then we have the lack of wanting to work with other members of staff like Tim Steidten. One of the best DoF's in Europe. No Moyes has to be in charge. He wants to write the theme tune, sign the theme tune, play the theme tune. This is just a few of the reasons we want him gone. Thanks for the Europa Conference League win Dave. We were the best, and most expensive team in the competition by a country mile, and if we hadn't have won it would have been an absolute travesty. And thanks for the top 10 finishes. That is what £450 Million buys you. Over the 4 year rebuild Moyes has presided over, the team now needs another complete rebuild. No way does Moyes deserve to spend another penny of the owners money.

Souness was the worst nufc manager in my lifetime. No surprise his football takes are often wide of the mark

Graham is a dinosaur 😂

Here is a list of teams west ham have played in Europe last 2 seasons. Viborg, FCSB, Silkeborg, Lanaca, Gent, AZalkmar, Fiorentina, TSC baka topola, Freidberg, Olympics, Friedberg, Leverkusen. Hardly Europe's best is it. Moyes in 4 years has spent over 400 million to assemble the smallest and oldest Squad in the league. He plays boring cowardly football, doesn't give youth a chance and flogs the same 12, 13 players week in week out. West ham need a rebuild in the summer he isn't the man to do it. Why doesn't anybody talk about Tim Steinten in the media? You know the man that bought Kudus,Alverez and Dino to the club and the man that will be in charge of our rebuild its like he doesn't exist. 🤔. Moyes fan boys the lot of you.

David Moyes is a cancer for a club. he is completely unsustainable. ignores half his squad and only makes good players worse. YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT WATCH

I agree with ffp but the current system needs revision

Who going to get the interest of this billion pound?

Simon: 'I would look at it through a Pryzm within a framwork to establish a landscape in which I give myself a sense of importance.... Otherwise I will just fall into the same category as everyone else... An attention seeking disk jockey craving validation'

No 1 cares about what sourness says about Newcastle

I know it's only meant to be entertainment. But these two with all their experience dont have a clue. The elephant in the room is the top 4 or 6 monopoly, using ffp now to restrict other teams progressing. Once PIF solve the this ridiculous problem so they can fully back Eddie, so he can strengthen the squad...... We will be right at the top winning things with a brand of football we all want to watch.

Foolish Simon. Actually thinks that they care about sustainability

Sourness talks pure football . Jordan doesn't .

The next 5 clubs after City have won 1 league title between them in 20 years. Everyone has money in the Premier league , because of our incredible TV deals. It’s how you spend it. So why add a nation state with unlimited money or a Russian oligarch on top of that? Their motives are create an image of themselves by throwing money at a football team. And dumb fans lap it up but the consequences for clubs trying to challenge them could be fatal. The past 20 years have been dominated by Abramovich and Abu Dhabi, the only stop gab was when United had the greatest player of all time who briefly disrupted that from 06/09.

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