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Jamie O'Hara & Jermaine Pennant CLASH over who was to BLAME For England's Euro 2024 Final loss! 🔥

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Jermaine Pennant & Jamie O'Hara get into a heated debate over who is to blame for England's Euro 2024 final loss.
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@tokolloseleka8785
@tokolloseleka8785 Ай бұрын
''we have better players than all the nations"...this right here is part of the problem.
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 Ай бұрын
spot on.'we have world class players'..'we have players who can walk into any squad'..'There is no one from the other side who could get into ours'...Right..if De Jung had played against England he would have struggled to get into that midfield...?
@zinedinezidane4771
@zinedinezidane4771 Ай бұрын
I really dont agree with this. Our players lack football intelligence and tactical awareness. Which continental teams favour over what we do in England.
@tokolloseleka8785
@tokolloseleka8785 Ай бұрын
@@zinedinezidane4771 I think you're right. It's just not their thing. We just don't associate English football with tactical awareness and futbol intelligence. But see that Mainoo boy🔥😭if you saw him for the first time at club football, you wouldn't say he's English. Palmer too🔥
@zinedinezidane4771
@zinedinezidane4771 Ай бұрын
@@tokolloseleka8785 which is crazy. Who wouldn't want intelligence in a footballer or any role in life 😂 Agree, Palmer and Mainoo look quality and have good intelligence hopefully they continue to develop this way and are appreciated in the national team, because Scholes and Carrick wasn't.. crazy again lool
@robertwilliamson9576
@robertwilliamson9576 Ай бұрын
Exactly right
@capowned3
@capowned3 Ай бұрын
Pennant bang on - some nations are built to win trophies, some aren't. England are the same as Belgium and it aint coming home anytime soon
@leehaslam5751
@leehaslam5751 Ай бұрын
How many world cups have belguim won you idiot
@eddiejohnson5370
@eddiejohnson5370 Ай бұрын
Well said well bloody said for real
@1972dsrai
@1972dsrai Ай бұрын
The stat about Spanish teams winning the last 27 major trophies a Spanish team was involved in is crazy.
@user-xu4xj2cd2j
@user-xu4xj2cd2j Ай бұрын
Thw difference with Belgium is that its only really been the last 8 years they had a quality team which tbh has been on the decline for 4 or 5 years with players aging. England have always been seen as a brilliant team with world class players
@user-xu4xj2cd2j
@user-xu4xj2cd2j Ай бұрын
@tbrauneh yeah im saying that, i think english players have been overrated for as long as i have watchrd football. Im just saying the difference is Belgium never have golden generations whereas every generation of england bes built up to a golden generation but never come close to the real best teams
@garyt8441
@garyt8441 Ай бұрын
Your not Scotland but you've won the same amount of European Championships as Scotland
@iainrae6159
@iainrae6159 Ай бұрын
Who can forget Archie Gemmill 's goal and Jim Baxter winning the World Cup in 1967. True immortals.
@johnmoss1199
@johnmoss1199 Ай бұрын
​@@iainrae6159😂😂👌
@Edward1312
@Edward1312 Ай бұрын
What did Scotland do other than be the first team to be sent home?
@Lord_OTD
@Lord_OTD Ай бұрын
Love this 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.
@supercriceto
@supercriceto Ай бұрын
Edward312: we beat Spain a few months ago. How did England do against Spain? Oh . . .
@ZEQIPO
@ZEQIPO Ай бұрын
England hasn’t got better players. They have better PR to hype these average players. 🙄
@ericburckson727
@ericburckson727 Ай бұрын
Jose Mourihno wins this final with this English squad . Lets not even debate it.
@robertpirsig5011
@robertpirsig5011 Ай бұрын
​@@ericburckson727Mourinho would have better odds with Spain though.
@NH-bz9jv
@NH-bz9jv Ай бұрын
Average players DONT get into any team in the world mate. Jude Bellingham gets into any team in the world (he’s already at Real Madrid), an in form Harry Kane gets into any team in the world, so does Saka and so does Foden (when playing his his correct position). So, this also means that those players are world class, fact. Apology accepted👍
@tamimhusain3376
@tamimhusain3376 Ай бұрын
Williams better than Foden (as a left winger). Saka is perhaps slightly better than Yamal. Current injured Kane is not better than Morata as weird as that sounds. Rodri and Ruiz are both better than Rice and Mainoo. Carvajal is better than Walker. Laporte equal to Stones. Those replying "England are better, Mourinho would've won etc." No the Spanish players are technically better and they proved it by easily dominating the ball and creating more chances. Those individual players like Bellingham, Foden and Kane had good "goalscoring" seasons. That's not the same as being individually better for your positions than other players
@lyndonbowes887
@lyndonbowes887 Ай бұрын
It’s somewhere in between, they aren’t average players.
@peteryoungpeteryoung965
@peteryoungpeteryoung965 Ай бұрын
I cannot understand for the life of me why the English media believe their own hype that England have the best players. All the best players in the Premier are foreign, the best coaches are foreign. On the other hand Spain supply top players and coaches to all other countries, including the Premier League, they are footballing giants compared to England.
@Unpopular_Truth
@Unpopular_Truth Ай бұрын
Accept the highest performing players last season, Foden, Palmer, Saka, Watkins are all English and 7 out of the 10 of the highest goal scorers of all the time are English, so all the best players in the Premier League are not foreign. It's clearing a coaching issue at intentional level, especially under Southgate who is a P.E teacher. English players play better for their clubs because they are in a more settled system and know their roles. Even in the Premier League it can take a team a month to settle and find form, but at international tournaments they only have a few games.
@JimBuckYou66
@JimBuckYou66 Ай бұрын
@@Unpopular_Truth You put Southgate in at man city and they won't even get top 6
@SugarRayValentine
@SugarRayValentine Ай бұрын
@@Unpopular_Truth stop waffling last time i checked the best players of all time aren't english
@Unpopular_Truth
@Unpopular_Truth Ай бұрын
@@SugarRayValentine We're talking about the best players in the Premier League you clown.
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 Ай бұрын
@@Unpopular_Truth So why Spanish players manage that transition and English ones do not?
@taza5196
@taza5196 Ай бұрын
The arrogance "O Hara we're better then Brazil they're terrible " Remind me england lost at Wembley to Brazil in April 😆 🤣 😂
@misturmonson7423
@misturmonson7423 Ай бұрын
Mate if you think we have better players than Germany France & Spain you might as well wrap it up football wise...
@AliRaza-lg7sv
@AliRaza-lg7sv Ай бұрын
As a neutral spain euro team wasn't better than the english. They had a way of playing and they stuck with it. The endligh team has no identity and that's the problem.
@js6079
@js6079 Ай бұрын
Saka? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Walker was in line when the ball was played through the min...until he wasn't...get a grip Jamie
@rogerpayne5336
@rogerpayne5336 Ай бұрын
The cold facts are the most tedious games I've watched in this , overall great Euro's , have all been England games. The group stage's was boring as f , the quarter's down to pens , the semi where England were given a scandalous penalty and dubious decision's against the Dutch. Then the final ! The rest is history at this point.......Viva Espana !!!! was the right result all round.
@User-ei7eo
@User-ei7eo Ай бұрын
Yeah cheers for that roger
@DEBASER1202
@DEBASER1202 Ай бұрын
Someone picking the most 'tedious' games isn't a fact, it's a matter of opinion. I my opinion England weren't great.
@CJ-dk7hc
@CJ-dk7hc Ай бұрын
"England have got the players"..only in your english mind mate
@kaiadam3082
@kaiadam3082 Ай бұрын
Jamie saying Brazil are terrible now and England better than Brazil!?? Your deluded, Brazil outclassed England at Wembley and won only couple of months ago with their make shift team..
@SAnd-pd1ou
@SAnd-pd1ou Ай бұрын
Jermaine is talking a bit of sense. Other clown is just a sad indictment of an over hyped media.
@dontbewoke
@dontbewoke Ай бұрын
7:20 Another great point from Jermaine ; the pressing style is what our players do week in and week out ; why England didn't is baffling.
@Youafool500
@Youafool500 Ай бұрын
They did not do it because they don’t fear the manager, you imagine these players press for 5 min and then stop under Klopp or Pep or even Arteta ? The fear is getting taken off and the players in the England team did not worry about that
@stavrosgeorgiades1219
@stavrosgeorgiades1219 Ай бұрын
Is Englands goalkeeper better than Spain’s? Is Luke Shaw better than cucurella? Is Rice better than Rodri? Is Saka better than Niko Williams? Walker than Carvajal?
@JoeSq100
@JoeSq100 Ай бұрын
Unai Simón is awful
@matthewtovey9771
@matthewtovey9771 Ай бұрын
On Walker please note he was named in the Uefa team of the tournament, has won everything there is to win at club level and has been called by Vini Jr and Neymar as the best player they have faced in that position. Difficult to argue objectively against that?
@newhappiness4410
@newhappiness4410 Ай бұрын
Spain manager said in interview he knew England would b slow to settle and his teams tactics were to quickly unsettle them at every point n that included the start of the 2nd half
@hooman9e
@hooman9e Ай бұрын
The excuses for Kane on this video are hilarious - if he cant cut it he has to be replaced - that goes for any player
@thf3038
@thf3038 Ай бұрын
Not when our other options are far less talented and experienced
@BobWillem
@BobWillem Ай бұрын
The issue is the FA is too focused on choosing a likeable person rather than being very clear about what kind of 'brand' of football they want and then shortlisting coaches who are experts in that kind of football.
@alloesibanda
@alloesibanda Ай бұрын
You have the best league not players
@elicastelli9728
@elicastelli9728 Ай бұрын
Kane didn't play like Kane as we expected and Southgate was too afraid to drop him or limit his playing time. That's 10 v 11 straightaway...
@StringerBellz
@StringerBellz Ай бұрын
"We've got the facilities" 😂 oh Jamie😢
@tokolloseleka8785
@tokolloseleka8785 Ай бұрын
@@StringerBellz bro😭😹😹
@StringerBellz
@StringerBellz Ай бұрын
@@tokolloseleka8785 😂 surely we deserve the title just for that
@Dave-zk4fv
@Dave-zk4fv Ай бұрын
O Hara sounding completely deluded. 'We have as good players as France/Spain/Germany' - so how many Euros have we won? ZERO Jamie, ZERO. We can't even do a Greece despite playing like them.
@johnkeohane4239
@johnkeohane4239 Ай бұрын
He actually said that you have better players
@jordanbrooks4834
@jordanbrooks4834 Ай бұрын
This is such a stupid comment. Literally ONLY Spain won more euros trophy’s than our current group of players, I don’t think Ohara is saying England have always had the best squad, he’s saying right now the squad England have is player for player better than any other squad, no other nation has a front 6 of individual best players at their clubs, this means nothing in the grand scheme of things because we don’t have a tactically astute manager to put these players into a structure and style of play that allows them to be better than the other nations as teams
@BC-th3mx
@BC-th3mx Ай бұрын
Fun fact: Before the final, England had scored 7 conceded 4 in 6 games - just like 2004 Greece
@patcallinan3992
@patcallinan3992 Ай бұрын
​@@jordanbrooks4834 There isn't any good English manager. There never was and there NEVER will be !! Before all these better technical foreign managers/coaches came to the Premiership, who were the managers winning all the trophies ? Ferguson, Dalglish, Graham. They're all Scottish FFS !! 😅😂❤❤
@artschool673
@artschool673 Ай бұрын
😂😂
@frankjaeger393
@frankjaeger393 Ай бұрын
England do not have the best players, the delusion is incredible.
@wayneholness6090
@wayneholness6090 Ай бұрын
Scottish, Irish or Welsh?
@JasonSimon-m2n
@JasonSimon-m2n Ай бұрын
Then why are they the most expensive team then?
@lyndonbowes887
@lyndonbowes887 Ай бұрын
@@JasonSimon-m2nare you ten years old?
@TribalScan.
@TribalScan. Ай бұрын
@@JasonSimon-m2n because they all overrated and overpriced, especially in England. For example Declan Rice cost 100M. He just about looked like a 20M player during the whole tournament. Hope that helps.
@zinedinezidane4771
@zinedinezidane4771 Ай бұрын
@@JasonSimon-m2n expensive doesnt equate to the best players. Rashford is one of the highest earners in England and is not the best player lol
@oliprj8676
@oliprj8676 Ай бұрын
O'hara thinks England are better than Brazil and Pennant thinks Foden plays for Arsenal. What a pair of clowns
@larnx1692
@larnx1692 Ай бұрын
England aren’t amazing but tbf Brazil stink right now. They’re actually kinda similar imo
@Dimi3_United
@Dimi3_United Ай бұрын
The fact that Jamie thinks that England has the best players and best facilities is laughable really .Get a reality test man 😊
@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533
@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533 Ай бұрын
Something I heard on TalkSport earlier that resonated with me. An ex-pat living in Lanzarote stated that they had about 14 reasonable sized stadiums for youth football alone on that island - that is why Spain is successful. The money in the Premier League doesn't equate to success nationally. We seen last night how easily Rodri was replaced by another like for like substitution aligned to Spain's way of playing.
@willcuffers1070
@willcuffers1070 Ай бұрын
Spot on clapping 👏
@1972dsrai
@1972dsrai Ай бұрын
Not just Rodri, no Pedri or Gavi either in the final yet you couldn’t tell it was a completely new midfield in the second half. Imagine if England lost their three starters in midfield for the final.
@user-tw3re9hg3j
@user-tw3re9hg3j Ай бұрын
While England bring on Palmer who fair enough played good but take off Mainoo who was the only player breaking up Spains play, not a like for like,then what happened massive gaps appeared between the defence and midfield which Spain exploited for the rest of the game
@Ben-lf3ul
@Ben-lf3ul Ай бұрын
England absolutely do not have the best players 😅 kane looks good playing with sane and musiala, bellingham looks good playing with vinny jr and rodrygo, foden looks good playing with haaland and de bruyne these english players are massively overhyped
@Unpopular_Truth
@Unpopular_Truth Ай бұрын
Or maybe they just play better in a well coached settled system. They wouldn't perform week in week out and get so many goals and assists for their clubs if they were average players.
@dontbewoke
@dontbewoke Ай бұрын
When it really mattered Bellingham did nothing , quarters semis and final.
@void0350
@void0350 Ай бұрын
Watch another sport
@footballsoccerx2021
@footballsoccerx2021 Ай бұрын
Silly comment
@dontbewoke
@dontbewoke Ай бұрын
@@void0350 What did he do then numbnuts?
@dontbewoke
@dontbewoke Ай бұрын
@@footballsoccerx2021 What did he do then numbnuts?
@moshabimogadima6470
@moshabimogadima6470 Ай бұрын
Wud u have gotten there If he doesn't score the overhead kick ?
@davidkennah2606
@davidkennah2606 Ай бұрын
No senior England caps...how does this make O hara an expert?? His international career is as disastrous as his marriage to Danielle Lloyd 😂
@blinkin78
@blinkin78 Ай бұрын
“We have better players then all those teams” eh no you don’t, that’s why Spain passed you off the pitch cause they have better players, see how that works?
@Youafool500
@Youafool500 Ай бұрын
The funny thing about Spain this tournament they were not really interested in having the most possession, but had to have it cos England could not hold the ball under pressure !
@dothetango1
@dothetango1 Ай бұрын
Something i dont understand in football is if you have world class players that are injured or fatigued why play them? Surely its better to start someone else rather than playing a tired bellingham or a kane who are probably playing on par with a championship level player or even less
@tyronkach75
@tyronkach75 Ай бұрын
Embarrassing yourself Jamie
@kelvinhunter5807
@kelvinhunter5807 Ай бұрын
Jamie did nothing in football career
@patcallinan3992
@patcallinan3992 Ай бұрын
That's why Jamie is there for. 👌
@andymcnab2.0
@andymcnab2.0 Ай бұрын
Southgates to blame for not having players on the pitch that would've ran Spain to the ground. Watkins, Gordon, Palmer would've made a huge difference if they started ahead of Foden, Kane, Shaw.
@JMD166
@JMD166 Ай бұрын
dream on!
@The_Rizz_Lord_
@The_Rizz_Lord_ Ай бұрын
Exactly what I have been saying
@Cedisdead
@Cedisdead Ай бұрын
English fans to blame for not supporting the leader of their team.
@dstewusa7054
@dstewusa7054 Ай бұрын
@andymcnab2.0 Fair comment - even if people don’t agree on a technical ability and tactical basis, your point would be true because the players you mention would have been so much fresher and would have played to a high intensity in the final England lacked intensity!
@iancrosdale1165
@iancrosdale1165 Ай бұрын
Ivan Toney
@danegill3820
@danegill3820 Ай бұрын
“England have got better players than all them nations” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@moaliize
@moaliize Ай бұрын
We can’t keep saying we’re better than this and we’re better than that. Performances don’t match.
@jamesmilligan2797
@jamesmilligan2797 Ай бұрын
We're just sh*t at football, end of discussion, live with it
@glemonsbhatkin514
@glemonsbhatkin514 Ай бұрын
Sitting back after equalising was criminal. Bottlers.
@colin7853
@colin7853 Ай бұрын
Jamie saying England have the best football teams. There is over 60 percent of the players are foreign.
@Do27gg
@Do27gg Ай бұрын
All the comments trying to be tacticos…England do have the best players, only 1 or 2 countries have ARGUABLY better players. It’s completely down to the coaching. If you disagree please tell me the many countries with better players
@travisbickle5829
@travisbickle5829 Ай бұрын
Spain, Germany, France, Portugal, Cape Flats kids from Cape Town.
@marc.the.red1987
@marc.the.red1987 Ай бұрын
Rice is awful
@phillipcarter8045
@phillipcarter8045 Ай бұрын
With curry .
@johnkeohane4239
@johnkeohane4239 Ай бұрын
Eat something else . Large variety of food available now mate
@BlueHefner1986
@BlueHefner1986 Ай бұрын
Spot on comment there lad 😅​@@johnkeohane4239
@user-jl1ry7qp1y
@user-jl1ry7qp1y Ай бұрын
For sure not - stupid comment
@tamimhusain3376
@tamimhusain3376 Ай бұрын
Try peshwari naan
@asaifali99
@asaifali99 Ай бұрын
Best football teams in the world domestically full of other countries and leauges talent not because of the English players. This is the problem with any English media they don't accept that other country's have equal or better talent due to their own bias but if you really deep it and the most successful teams last season and past seasons non of the teams have had an England star being the one who carries the team bar maybe Madrid this season but it wasn't just belilingham it was a whole team delivering
@dagogogreene9155
@dagogogreene9155 Ай бұрын
Cole carried Chelsea way more than Bellingham did! Y’all just love bring Bellinghams name up in every conversation… he’s not spectacular, he has great physique, a pompous attitude and scored goals. He’s a PRs dream.
@asaifali99
@asaifali99 Ай бұрын
@dagogogreene9155 OK, 1 player you have named who didn't even start. That was my point that no one is undroppable. And I used jude as an example because of the team he plays for real Madrid who are stacked with world beaters and even with out jude they still function they have other players who have been clutch this season such as vini and carvajal and most of them are not English but won't get credit they deserve due to the English media bias an example is carvajal vs walker one of the most decorated rb in the game won't get the praise in comparison to a speed merchants
@matthewtovey9771
@matthewtovey9771 Ай бұрын
@@asaifali99 Your point about Walker is very tenuous. He was named in the Uefa team of the tournament, like Caravajal has had a very successful club career and is someone who has been named by the likes of Vini Jr and Neymar as the best player they have faced in that position. None of this can be put down to english media bias now can it?
@matthewtovey9771
@matthewtovey9771 Ай бұрын
@@asaifali99 Your point about Walker is very tenuous. He was named in the Uefa team of the tournament, like Caravajal has had a very successful club career and is someone who has been named by the likes of Vini Jr and Neymar as the best player they have faced in that position. None of this can be put down to english media bias now can it?
@tonyhyvik5008
@tonyhyvik5008 Ай бұрын
Lewandoski didnt start for Poland! Why not drop Kane if he plays bad?!!
@Gavaldo
@Gavaldo Ай бұрын
He was injured until the last Poland match. Then they played him as soon as he was fit.
@travisbickle5829
@travisbickle5829 Ай бұрын
Because he’s “England’s priceless Gem!”
@user-br9zo9mv7v
@user-br9zo9mv7v Ай бұрын
Jamie "Brazil are terrible now" .........Didn't Brazil just beat England leading up to the Euro's??? Seem to remember Eigland tried to press Brazil and how easily a "terrible" Brazil team dealt with it. Some brilliant tactics by the management right there!
@catherinemartin6258
@catherinemartin6258 Ай бұрын
50 percent on Southgate and 50 percent on the players
@eddiejohnson5370
@eddiejohnson5370 Ай бұрын
Well said well bloody said for real
@pato2200
@pato2200 Ай бұрын
The idea that someone must be to blame for the defeat betrays a shocking sense of entititlement.
@johnkeohane4239
@johnkeohane4239 Ай бұрын
Thank you England. All arguing and pissed off everyday. Awesome Thanks, Southgate. Thanks Harry . Thanks jude
@leemoffat159
@leemoffat159 Ай бұрын
Clearly when you don’t win anything, you can’t have the best team! We just aren’t as good as we thought
@chrismiller6317
@chrismiller6317 Ай бұрын
Kane should be embarrassed receiving the golden boot award
@NH-bz9jv
@NH-bz9jv Ай бұрын
Ok, then so should the other three he’s sharing it with then. I don’t understand your point🤷🏼‍♂️
@Chris-xb6be
@Chris-xb6be Ай бұрын
The quality of football today is poor, a handful of decent strikers and defenders. Go back 10/15 years and all top teams had 2/3 top strikers and forwards each.
@29memyselfandi
@29memyselfandi Ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more, thinking of Van Basten, Bergkamp, Rumenigge, Platini, and fifty other guys of this ilk who produced something special. Now it’s all about systems etc. It’s a different game.
@chrismiller6317
@chrismiller6317 Ай бұрын
KANE is a disgrace declaring himself fit Stevie Wonder could see Kane wasn’t then he comes out and says it’s all about the team Southgate in the 2nd half pushed SAKA further forward,the winning goal was down to Walker for taking a throw that was on the edge of Spain’s box and it ended back with Pickford,and preceded to give the ball away that led directly to the winning goal
@LukeSkywalker-io2bh
@LukeSkywalker-io2bh Ай бұрын
From day one, I always said he was a f numpty. I've been proven f right.
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 Ай бұрын
@@chrismiller6317 Hang on mate.. that's wrong..
@Matt231985uk
@Matt231985uk Ай бұрын
Southgate picking the same 11-12 players every single game despite them struggling to create a single chance for 70 minutes, then seeing players like Palmer come on, change the game and create match winning goals and then drop to the bench the next game! Ridiculous!! Why not give these super subs a chance to start a game? Then maybe we won’t have to go 1-0 down and panic trying to find an equaliser with the clock ticking down.
@LukeSkywalker-io2bh
@LukeSkywalker-io2bh Ай бұрын
I agree mate. Good riddance. Did not have a scooby. Which midfielder did he play which could make that pass to split a defense (starter)? Playing both Bellingham and Foden was ridiculous, not to mention the decision to keep playing Kane unfit. Blows my f mind GS's decision - making. Seriously could understand a chimp at the zoo better than GS's mind.
@thembadavhana7769
@thembadavhana7769 Ай бұрын
England going into a competition expecting to win it when they have not won a single trophy since God knows when is mad 😅
@paulfitness5157
@paulfitness5157 Ай бұрын
England don't have better players
@Dwayndibb
@Dwayndibb Ай бұрын
You could side with Southgate but think his answer to win was bring on Gallagher. Honestly you must sit on the sideline and look into space think what would great manager do. Klopp, Clough or anyone. Day of Destiny Gareth. "I summon you Gallagher" Ah man. There is Trent and Gordon - rightwing to left
@Dwayndibb
@Dwayndibb Ай бұрын
​@@Realist560😂😂 Ah man. Southgate needs sacking for ages. As if any sane Premierleague fan want him at their club. You know that is an obvious thing.
@1972dsrai
@1972dsrai Ай бұрын
The ones we have are coached by foreign managers and play in teams full of foreigners. Thats why the PL is as successful as it is.
@ralphthomson2680
@ralphthomson2680 Ай бұрын
England don’t have better players than said countries.
@KhalifaAlm
@KhalifaAlm Ай бұрын
The way he thinks England got the best players is hilarious
@petersmith-yg7me
@petersmith-yg7me Ай бұрын
Talksport are to blame for constantly bullying up a bang average collection of English players.
@dontbewoke
@dontbewoke Ай бұрын
6:50 Pennant makes a good point ; it was only when foreign coaches and players came to the UK that the PL took off , it wasn't English players that made that happen. The coaches angle in particular ; no English coach has won the PL , that says plenty. Eriksson and Capello had a go but Eriksson was not elite and Capello wasn't suited to the English culture. I say give a foreigner another go , at least we'd see a team thats easier on the eye.
@Youafool500
@Youafool500 Ай бұрын
Sven was a cheque book manager for Lazio who never won the Italian League, at that time it was a stupid appointment
@newhappiness4410
@newhappiness4410 Ай бұрын
Our director of football needs get English players at youth level to learn how to press and keep ball under high pressure
@NH-bz9jv
@NH-bz9jv Ай бұрын
No mate, pressing is one of the most basic attributes of any footballer, pressing just means pushing up on our opponents and is NOT a skill that needs to be learnt. Either Southgate’s tactics dictated how we played OR the players were just too cagey. To say this needs to be “learnt” at youth level is ridiculous, it’s basic. Even an average Sunday League pub footballer knows how to press (push up). If your post was serious and you really think this needs to be taught then we are either in more trouble than we thought OR you know zero about the game of football🤣🤣
@zinedinezidane4771
@zinedinezidane4771 Ай бұрын
I think they need to develop natural intelligence 😂
@travisbickle5829
@travisbickle5829 Ай бұрын
Learning to press?? Geez just work on your bloody fitness lol
@afriyiepriscillaanima6321
@afriyiepriscillaanima6321 Ай бұрын
It is delusional to thinking that England has got the best of players
@matthewtovey9771
@matthewtovey9771 Ай бұрын
I disagree and I will point you to the below list of objective facts rather than just simply providing my opinion. Kane-Top goal scorer in Bundesliga Foden - Voted Prem best player Bellingham - voted la liga best player In terms of goals scored in the most recent season across all comps, the following players all scored 20 goals or more: Kane, Foden, Bellingham, Palmer, Watkins, Bowen, Saka Now please show me another national team that can boast that? How many did Yamal and Williams score last season? You can not deny that the above mentioned players all had exceptional club seasons coming into this tournament, otherwise you are just ignoring facts. Before you mention the EPL is overhyped, please note it is the no.1 ranked league in Europe by Uefa, it is not a farmer league. Plus you had the likes of Kane and Bellingham doing very well in overseas leagues. Clearly the English squad, certainly from attacking perspective has an embarrassment of riches when it comes to form players yet they didn't score more than 2 goals in any game. I think its Gareth and the coaching staff who have to take responsibility here for not extracting the best out of the squads strengths here.
@michaellabram5980
@michaellabram5980 Ай бұрын
@@matthewtovey9771Good points…They don’t unfortunately play as a team…And We are weak mentally…Historically…It can change….Garath did ok….,The culture has improved…Next manager needs to build a team…not just play star players..👍
@Thespian_nozy
@Thespian_nozy Ай бұрын
Blame trent !! The best passer in a team who hates to have the ball.
@void0350
@void0350 Ай бұрын
Trent is an overrated passer. English have not one good passer, i honestly think Saka is Englands best passer and that says it all.
@dstewusa7054
@dstewusa7054 Ай бұрын
@void0350 Trent has highest all time assists for a defender in PL history - you can’t achieve that without being a great passer. Stop spouting nonsense
@keithdanks766
@keithdanks766 Ай бұрын
The fact you are even talking about “moments” that dug us out! This is England! Dug out against Slovenia etc tells you all you need to know about Southgates tactics! Man for man except Rodri we are far better than even Spain, so how do we lose to anyone?
@forevergooner4400
@forevergooner4400 Ай бұрын
Fun fact. All the best players in this country are always foreigners. We over hype our players and downplay other countries players.
@travisbickle5829
@travisbickle5829 Ай бұрын
Jamie thinking England have better players is the core of the problem. YOU DO NOT.
@chisomvictorukaegbu1596
@chisomvictorukaegbu1596 Ай бұрын
Having leaders is not good enough.What did Gerrad Win with England?.The Truth is this England doesn't have the Players,Team ,Management, Mentality and Playing Style to Win a Major Trophy
@Pad13
@Pad13 Ай бұрын
Bellingham isn’t a wide left forward. Can’t blame him for performing poorly in a system that doesn’t suit him. He’s a number 8. Pre tournament he should’ve started alongside rice where he can pick up the ball deep and drive into defences. Now Mainoo has showed his capabilities maybe there isn’t a place for Jude in the starting 11.
@flamboyentpromotions3471
@flamboyentpromotions3471 Ай бұрын
Bellingham wasn't great the whole tournament not just the final
@tamimhusain3376
@tamimhusain3376 Ай бұрын
I dont think Pennant and Ohara realise theyre trying to make the same point
@daddymoanychronicles2285
@daddymoanychronicles2285 Ай бұрын
Cole Palmer,Stones,Walker and Pickford showed their fans that they were doing everything to win this final. Jude was battling like a warrior and shouldn’t of been playing in Trent-Alexander’s role. Toney and Watkins should’ve started upfront together to hurt that Spanish defence. Southgate is definitely to blame for England not beating Spain.
@MrMacbridemax
@MrMacbridemax Ай бұрын
The main issue in the tournament was relatively simple. Kane, Foden, Bellingham and Saka were not an attacking four that were ever going to do it. They just don't work together. They all want to play in the same space. Kane, even when fit, needs wide runners, and those attackers all need a forward like Watkins who stretches the play so they can break into space. It was never, ever going to flow and most people spotted it very early. Southgate persisted, and it was our downfall.
@SylvanPaul
@SylvanPaul Ай бұрын
Apparently Jermaine Pennant is the only guy in England connected to reality
@mcribprime6594
@mcribprime6594 Ай бұрын
“England are better than Brazil” from the ever insightful delusional Jamie yet again. Jermaine spot on, great analysis.
@JasonSimon-m2n
@JasonSimon-m2n Ай бұрын
What a dumb argument. 'we aren't that nation who wins tournaments' You'd have been making that argument if you were Spanish back in 2008 as they'd never won anything. They've since won 4.
@Yimmytheg
@Yimmytheg Ай бұрын
Palmer always played well
@johnkeohane4239
@johnkeohane4239 Ай бұрын
Is he playing well today?
@CJ-kq8je
@CJ-kq8je Ай бұрын
England’s better than Brazil, didn’t they play the other day🤯🤯🤯🤯
@jonreed6448
@jonreed6448 Ай бұрын
The person to blame is Sam Allardyce, if he behaved he would be the manager of this lot not Gareth Southgate. He would have made strong decisions.
@NH-bz9jv
@NH-bz9jv Ай бұрын
Jesus wept🤣. Allerdyce would have been even worse. The comments here are hilarious🤣🤣🤣
@zomgbat
@zomgbat Ай бұрын
Please phone Talksport with this point
@lomar0058
@lomar0058 Ай бұрын
Jamie is full on delusional, which England is better than Brazil let alone, Spain, France or Germany
@Levitator07
@Levitator07 Ай бұрын
England were never gonna beat Spain. Can't beat any of the big teams!
@garymartin6944
@garymartin6944 Ай бұрын
JP is 100% right, we dont win and have never won the Euro's, I'm English and knew we wouldn't win the final, put money on Spain, easiest money I've ever won!
@ell9627
@ell9627 Ай бұрын
It’s the mentality we score and sit back instead of trying to win a game
@paulfitness5157
@paulfitness5157 Ай бұрын
Spain midfield far better players than England
@NH-bz9jv
@NH-bz9jv Ай бұрын
Jesus🤣🤣
@gursevsanghera7042
@gursevsanghera7042 Ай бұрын
Your absolutely right Spain's midfield was better than England's midfield England were lucky they didn't lose the final by a bigger margin every time in the second half when Spain attacked England they look like we're gonna score I thought England were lucky to get to the final I think Gareth Southgate took England has far he can take them he needs to go now England have the potential to win tournaments they got some good youngsters and some experience players but Gareth southgate can not take them over the line England need a new manager that can be more attacking England players don't seem to get as a team
@1972dsrai
@1972dsrai Ай бұрын
Not just Rodri, no Pedri or Gavi either in the final yet it made no difference to the team. Imagine if England had lost its best three midfielders in the final. It would have been an even bigger disaster.
@filmonberhane4255
@filmonberhane4255 Ай бұрын
First time agreeing with Jermaine
@stewartallison106
@stewartallison106 Ай бұрын
Spain picked players to suit a style of play and do a certain job... England picked players on reputation...
@paulfitness5157
@paulfitness5157 Ай бұрын
German league has a long break mid season so no excuse lor legs being gone
@DribbleP
@DribbleP Ай бұрын
Only one person to blame and that is Southgate not kane not the players Southgate with his sit back tactics what do you people expect kane to do when the whole team is sitting back miracles and spain used every player they had during the tournament expect the keeper Southgate used the same players and moans the players are tired
@johnadams507
@johnadams507 Ай бұрын
Where was the ''Clash'' clickbait!!
@iainrae6159
@iainrae6159 Ай бұрын
I blame Spain for the defeat. At least we won in 1966 ,although the ball was not over the goal line for the third goal.
@dstewusa7054
@dstewusa7054 Ай бұрын
@iainrae6159 Just as well a 4th goal was smashed in then isn’t it?!
@JamesR5
@JamesR5 Ай бұрын
Jermaine for England manager, O, Hara assistant manager, Cundy water boy 🫏🫏🫏
@nitelite78
@nitelite78 Ай бұрын
Even harder for a captain to shout at team mates doing things wrong if he is playing really badly himself.
@trevorhoward7169
@trevorhoward7169 Ай бұрын
The problems we had throughout the tournament was because we were playing with 10 men in every game. Harry Kane did absolutely nothing. Ambled around from Spanish player to Spanish player with no intention of ever threatening them. Why do we hang on to these icons when they are past their best and we are afraid to drop them ie kane, although probably unfit, Ronaldo, Anderson at cricket ………
@declanhealy4575
@declanhealy4575 Ай бұрын
Play players in their right positions, England aren't learning
@ulfanfinneriksen4643
@ulfanfinneriksen4643 Ай бұрын
What was Spain better at? Playing out from the back. Playing with possession. Playing attacking football to outscore the opponent. That's what England need to practice going forward.
@christiansimmons2518
@christiansimmons2518 Ай бұрын
We don't have the midfielders like most of the top nations! Almost all of the best midfielders in the Premier League are foreign. We need to start to appreciate deep-lying midfielders and cultivate that position, instead of being obsessed with pushing every technical player into the forward line. Hopefully the next generation of English midfielders, like Wharton, Tyler Morton etc will be appreciated.
@moaliize
@moaliize Ай бұрын
We live in a world where less that mediocre players who have never really wore the jersey have the blueprint on how to manage this team. Please
@joshuaw9675
@joshuaw9675 Ай бұрын
Foden plays for Arsenal? It was obviously a mistake, but my stomach was hurting after hearing that 😂😂
@eoliver437
@eoliver437 Ай бұрын
Jamie- u familiar with the concept of 'divine right to win'....
@1972dsrai
@1972dsrai Ай бұрын
What about Lee Carsley? Just won the Euro’s with the U21 team. At least worth looking at.
@jmw-qt2ih
@jmw-qt2ih Ай бұрын
"we have better players than all the other nations" , well the games in this tournament would suggest otherwise.
@roberthayes9842
@roberthayes9842 Ай бұрын
Shaw went missing for both goals, completely out of place
@Siguy6604
@Siguy6604 Ай бұрын
Jamie said england has the better players than all those previous winners ? that there alone tells you why they dont win. They are delulu about how good their players actually are.
@jaffplumbs26
@jaffplumbs26 Ай бұрын
Jamie o hara totally agree with everything u said mate 👏👏👏
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