Tamara Karsavina Talks of Performing in 'Les Sylphides' with Pavlova and Nijinsky

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John Hall

John Hall

11 жыл бұрын

Tamara Karsavina, the great Ballets Russes Prima Ballerina, talks to camera about dancing at the Paris premier of 'Les Sylphides' on 2 June 1909 at Théâtre du Châtelet. She appeared with Anna Pavlova, Alexandra Baldina and Vaslav Nijinsky in this plotless ballet, a 'romantic reverie'.
'Les Sylphides' was choreographed by Mikhail Fokine to piano music of Chopin, orchestrated for the ballet by the Russian composer Alexander Glazunov.
First presented at the Mariinsky Theatre in St. Petersburg in 1907 as 'Rêverie Romantique: Ballet sur la musique de Chopin', the work became known as 'Chopiniana' and then as 'Les Sylphides', for the Ballets Russes Paris season of 1909 and at the suggestion of the set designer, Alexander Benois.
Mme Karsavina continues, discussing the choreography and the groupings, and the role of the corps de ballet as the basis of the ballet. And, in this context, she talks about and demonstrates the expression of the porte de bras - 'the arms should move softly' and 'suggest unearthly ethereal beings'.
Though we have no film of Tamara Karsavina performing in this ballet, at least here (with some imagination) we have snippets of how her upper body movement might have appeared to audiences at the legendary premier of this work at the Mariinsky Theatre and at the performances Ballets Russes.
Enjoy!

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@BytomGirl
@BytomGirl 3 жыл бұрын
She was so beautiful her whole life and from I see she was beautiful inside and out, gentle and intelligent.
@villagekitty
@villagekitty 11 жыл бұрын
When she said, "especially the arms, which should move softly, like this...", as she demonstrated her most beautiful port de bras, I swooned...
@seaofglass77
@seaofglass77 3 жыл бұрын
As a teacher I try so hard to pass this incredible heritage on. It seems to get harder every year for young dancers to understand the people who gave us this precious art form.
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 3 жыл бұрын
yes, students could learn so much from these original interpreters of roles - I just got a radio chat between Karsavina and Rambert about their time with the Ballets Russes and roles and performance
@voraciousreader3341
@voraciousreader3341 3 жыл бұрын
Karsavina is one of the most beautiful elderly women I’ve ever seen, and she still moves here with such graceful expression! I try to think of all of the ballets she made classic and my head spins to wonder what it was like to be her as such a young artist! And I’m not a dancer!
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 3 жыл бұрын
yes, and for me part of the beauty is her sonorous voice - and to have been at the Ballets Russes when all those new roles were to be created!
@marinaoreshkevich549
@marinaoreshkevich549 2 жыл бұрын
Карсавина божественна даже в этом возрасте. I couldn’t believe that I can see her alive in this video. We just learned in ballet school about these great dancers and Fokin’s ballets. Thank you John.
@amygrowcott
@amygrowcott 9 жыл бұрын
With Karsavina's words, the Paris premiere of "Les Sylphides" is another performance I would love to travel back in time to watch with my own eyes!
@siegfried923
@siegfried923 10 жыл бұрын
Karsavina was not only a great ballerina of her time creating some of the most famous roles-but later the vast wealth of her knowledge of these roles which she delighted in passing down to the next generations has given us the opportunity to recreate mime sequences and mannerisms and style far better than relying solely on notation and scores- as have so many of her fellow great ballerinas also -This is the true heritage of these great ballet dancers and our present ballerinas Monica Mason etc
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 10 жыл бұрын
hi Siegfried. yes, absolutely - and how wonderful it must have been for so many people at the RB when Karsavina re-created 'Firebird' for Fonteyn - i remember reading she gave the British ballerina a vital clue about the bird - 'there is nothing human here. just the sort of thing to build the role on.
@siegfried923
@siegfried923 10 жыл бұрын
Oh to have been a fly on the wall then and to hear her relate her own experiences and interpretation as taught her by Fokine !!!
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 10 жыл бұрын
Siegfried she was alive when i lived in London - i had lots of connections with CG and the ballet and wonder if i might not have been able to inveigle a visit somehow. but then i didn't want to intrude and impose.
@siegfried923
@siegfried923 10 жыл бұрын
I bet you regret that now
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 10 жыл бұрын
Siegfried yes, i do - and foolishly try to comfort myself by hanging onto my interpersonal sensitivities!
@amygrowcott
@amygrowcott 9 жыл бұрын
I visited Mme. Karsavina's grave today, but unfortunately, it's in a terrible condition. Her headstone, which is below that of her husband's, is completely overgrown and covered in grass; you actually can't even see it! Or it's been removed and will be replaced; I don't know... I hope it's the latter because a great figure like Mme. Karsavina deserves the best.
@anokaguy
@anokaguy 4 жыл бұрын
How sad,,,
@emitch9213
@emitch9213 2 жыл бұрын
I am thrilled to feel I sit in the same room with Maestra Karasavina. Further, to see her introduce a very young Svetlana Beriosova. How valuable documentaries are in existence. Excellent film of her brilliance and presence so strong in footage, I wonder how her presence on stage must have been, too. Thank you, sir.
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 2 жыл бұрын
my pleasure - if you have not seen it, you might like to look at my upload 'Tamara Karsavina Reflects on the Ballets Russes Company of Serge de Diaghilev' kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rdNolqikurSYYo0.html
@AlejandroGarcia-ek3uy
@AlejandroGarcia-ek3uy 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this jewel.
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 6 жыл бұрын
pleasure - it's great hearing from the participants themselves - in a way it seems to imaginatively put you there for a moment. :)
@numberonefilmfan
@numberonefilmfan 11 жыл бұрын
Food for the soul, thanks!!!
@HelgaMaq
@HelgaMaq 11 жыл бұрын
The magic of Karsavina...
@KellieEverts-ss8uz
@KellieEverts-ss8uz 4 ай бұрын
I love her presentation
@drrabner47
@drrabner47 11 жыл бұрын
That magnificent port de bras.......still there. Thanks again.
@Tnotare
@Tnotare 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this treasure! The reverence that Karsavina gives to the ballet is revealing of her nature as true Ballerina! One can only imagine how wonderful it would have been to not only see her dance, but to learn from her as well!
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 10 жыл бұрын
hi Tnotare yes, it's wonderful hearing her talk of such legendary performances, particularly ones including those where she was partnered by Vaslav Nijinsky. Fonteyn must have treasured being coached by her in 'Firebird'!
@cbooth2004
@cbooth2004 11 жыл бұрын
Wow. The voices from that time always move me. Thank you.
@joana7497
@joana7497 9 ай бұрын
This is a pearl! Thank you!
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 9 ай бұрын
pleasure :)
@isabellejlv4668
@isabellejlv4668 11 ай бұрын
Quelle grâce dans ce port de bras, et quel toucher de piano !
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 11 жыл бұрын
hi kikcta isn't it - i never imagined i'd actually see and here Karsavina talking about these legendary performances!
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 11 жыл бұрын
hi villagekitty glad you like this one - i find her fascinating to listen to - as i dream along thinking about the extraordinary people who were the ordinary people in her life! :)
@simaraft7373
@simaraft7373 7 жыл бұрын
OMG how did I miss this? She is so captivating.
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 7 жыл бұрын
she has such self-assurance but without it being self-enhancing ego - and the timbre of her voice is so soothing to listen to. did you see my upload 'A Legend Reflects on a Legendary Company [1]' where she reflects on the company she was most associated with and on some of the principal members and artistic collaborators of that troupe?
@simaraft7373
@simaraft7373 7 жыл бұрын
John Hall I'll go look for it.
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 7 жыл бұрын
hope you react to it with the pleasure i did :)
@nonenoneonenonenone
@nonenoneonenonenone 10 жыл бұрын
Dear John, you need to label this more clearly as "le Prelude" to Les Sylphides. At last my dream of really meeting Karsavina has been fulfilled. What a performance. Artists of that time knew how to create atmosphere, to use emanation, to control and modulate mood, a forgotten art.
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 10 жыл бұрын
Dear zzindorf thanks so much for the suggestion - i've changed the title acordingly yes, the performance really has the correct 'atmosphere' - a genuine performance.
@e.r.4077
@e.r.4077 Жыл бұрын
To John...it's a delight to see this. I looked at the transcript because I could not catch all of the names at the end. Many corrections needed. I'll be glad to make them if it is allowed. And thanks for posting these treasures, which I am discovering slowly.
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall Жыл бұрын
it is a delight, isn't it. as much as the content, it is the beauty of her deep voice that makes this footage wonderful
@ThirzaLynetteClarke-ku9dq
@ThirzaLynetteClarke-ku9dq 10 ай бұрын
I am in tears. There are no words to describe such beauty even in her old age so dignified. Thanks.
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 10 ай бұрын
it moved me very much too - my pleasure
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 11 жыл бұрын
hi Christopher yes, Karsavina's voice in particular is beautifully accented and deep . glad you are moved by the voices of this time too! cheers
@user-fd1vq3rz4g
@user-fd1vq3rz4g Жыл бұрын
!!!!!!!!+++ Дуже дякую за відео !!!
@villagekitty
@villagekitty 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Nick!!
@btetschner
@btetschner 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video.
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall Жыл бұрын
pleasure :)
@louisesmedley-hampson1828
@louisesmedley-hampson1828 6 жыл бұрын
Magical - thank you for sharing it.
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 6 жыл бұрын
pleasure Louise - hearing her talk seems to almost put you there - or make these famed dancers seem like flesh and blood.
@normajidahmohamedlop5828
@normajidahmohamedlop5828 6 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy watching your videos, John. Very informative. Keep it up!
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 6 жыл бұрын
thanks! appreciated. i've had YT channels for over a decade so i'll be going on :) hope i can find new and interesting things to upload
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 11 жыл бұрын
hi Numberone filmfan isn't it just and listening to Karsavina talk takes me so easily back into the milieu of those now legendary times and performances.
@elvirasavinova8013
@elvirasavinova8013 6 ай бұрын
Как прекрасно что такие кадры сохранились. Я как буд- то в прошлое попала
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 5 ай бұрын
да, это проявление предусмотрительности, что зафиксировало эти моменты
@elvirasavinova8013
@elvirasavinova8013 5 ай бұрын
по этим кадрам мы понимаем, какой был русский балет начала 20 века. очевидно, он претерпел огромные изменения за последние сто лет@@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 5 ай бұрын
@@elvirasavinova8013 действительно, изменения велики - форма искусства постоянно меняется - хотя некоторые труппы стараются сохранить балеты такими, какие они есть.
@elvirasavinova8013
@elvirasavinova8013 5 ай бұрын
Согласна, Например, датский балет чтит традиции Бурнонвиля, у них современный балет сохраняет прелесть старинной хореографии. @@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 5 ай бұрын
@@elvirasavinova8013 истинный. Королевский балет пытается сохранить «английский стиль», но с присоединением к труппе танцоров из других стран (Нуреева в 1960-х годах и Осиповой совсем недавно) это будет непростой задачей.
@tkoran
@tkoran 7 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! Just to see the few seconds of her port de bras is amazing! A lost art! So beautiful! I amazed at how well she speaks English! And she plays the piano too! Is this from a TV performance? Where is the rest of the film, showing the dancers she introduced dancing the ballet?
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 7 жыл бұрын
hi t koran. it is part of a filming of my video upload 'Alicia Markova, Svetlana Beriosova, Violetta Elvin and John Field in 'Les Sylphides' (1953) Pts 1, 2' - in there is a link to Vimeo where the footage is - it is banned from YT sadly :)
@tkoran
@tkoran 7 жыл бұрын
Why banned?? Is there any way I can see it other than on KZfaq?
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 7 жыл бұрын
i had it on KZfaq and it was removed due to copyright - i have it now on Vimeo - if you put in a search on my YT channel for ''Alicia Markova, Svetlana Beriosova, Violetta Elvin and John Field in 'Les Sylphides' (1953) Pts 1, 2'' you will get the Vimeo URL - KZfaq doesn't like URLs in messages - usually they are put in the 'spam' box. :)
@tkoran
@tkoran 7 жыл бұрын
Yay! I was able to see it! Thanks! Incredibly small space they had to dance in! Probably due to studio stage or for the sake of camera work.
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 7 жыл бұрын
glad you got through - for the videos i can't upload onto KZfaq i'm putting them on Vimeo and putting URLs here. yes, the stage is minute!
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 11 жыл бұрын
hi villagekitty yes, it was so evocative - so easy hearing her words to imagine her porte de bras in this way in the ballet back in 1909. and as you say when she demonstrates ... i'm in my tardis heading back in time!
@kikcta
@kikcta 11 жыл бұрын
amazing
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 11 жыл бұрын
hi drrabner47 isn't it! enough to be able to get a sense of the ballerina's port de bras in the ballet. good to hear from you here at the new channel cheers
@TheBallet1
@TheBallet1 11 жыл бұрын
an amazing woman of substance... where is that time machine of yours Alex? I want to go back there for a while :)
@sana11sana19
@sana11sana19 2 жыл бұрын
💖💖💖💖💖
@jessicakelly6077
@jessicakelly6077 7 жыл бұрын
What a great clip! Was it part of a documentary or TV programme?
@gildejesus3714
@gildejesus3714 4 жыл бұрын
So sweet revérie!
@deuxpoupeesrusses
@deuxpoupeesrusses Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for these treasures that seem so much to me... I'm desperately seeking a footage of Alice Nikitina Landau a Russian ballerina who used to dance in Diaghilev russian ballets, along with Markova, Serge Lifar...She danced "Les sylphides", "La chatte", "Le train bleu" and so on... Alice Nikitina Landau took her classes with Ossepev. I would be so delighted to see her on the screen....🙏🌟🌟🌟
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall Жыл бұрын
hi! sadly i've search quite a lot over time and there does not seem to be any footage of Alice Nikitina dancing - Diaghilev did not allow his company to be filmed - so i guess any film of her would be after her Ballets Russes days. i'll ask an expert i know on the Ballets Russes and see if he knows of any film
@deuxpoupeesrusses
@deuxpoupeesrusses Жыл бұрын
@@JohnRaymondHall Thank you so much for answering me! I would love to see her after her dancing carrer! She then became a dance professor in Paris, and thereafter she bécane an opera singer. Oh what a woman !
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall Жыл бұрын
@@deuxpoupeesrusses yes, an extraordinarily varied career - amazing. waiting for my friend about whether any film exists - will keep you posted!
@deuxpoupeesrusses
@deuxpoupeesrusses Жыл бұрын
@@JohnRaymondHall Thank you so much! Mille merci!!!
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall Жыл бұрын
@@deuxpoupeesrusses my friend tells me (and in fact i knew but had forgotten - my memory!) she would have appeared in the famous outdoor rehearsal footage of 'Les Sylphides' taken at Montreux in June 1928, with Lifar (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z8ipi7Coqby1XZc.html). sadly it is not possible to say which dancer is Nikitina
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 11 жыл бұрын
hi TheBallet1 apparently time machines are very movable and relocatable - just dial and instantly (well, after a few gear-grinds!) you are where you need to be - so St Petersburg and Paris are just a few nanoseconds apart! question is - which city to start in ... and what year - so many fantastic choices!
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 11 жыл бұрын
hi TheBallet1 apparently time machines are very movable and relocatable - just dial and instantly (well, after a few gear-grinds!) you are where you need to be - so St Petersburg and Paris are just a few nanoseconds apart!
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 11 жыл бұрын
hi Helga there's a curious relationship between the magic of such legends ... and what might have been their reality - not a cynical view - it's just difficult sometimes to find the actual person and the artist i've just re-uploaded footage of Karsavina and Peter Vladimiroff performing a pas de deux from 'Sylvia' (1925). for me, more Karsavina magic.
@marioriospinot
@marioriospinot 9 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 9 жыл бұрын
hi marioriospinot great hearing this great ballerina talk on dancing with Nijinsky in those now legendary performances of 'Les Sylphides'
@anniemihn
@anniemihn 9 жыл бұрын
Nijinsky's favorite ballerina. He was infatuated with her also. He wrote about her in his published diary.
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 9 жыл бұрын
Sonia A. yes absolutely - but he could occasionally disrespect her in rehearsal - i read in Richard Buckle's book 'Nijinsky' and that Diaghilev would demand he apologize. he must had great respect for Karsavina.
@amygrowcott
@amygrowcott 9 жыл бұрын
John Hall Didn't Fokine ask her to marry him, but she rejected him because her mother persuaded her to?
@anniemihn
@anniemihn 9 жыл бұрын
John Hall He was a socially awkward person. Maybe it explains it?
@anniemihn
@anniemihn 9 жыл бұрын
DarkDancer06 Nijinsky also wanted her but he says he only gave up because Karsavina was already married at the time.
@amygrowcott
@amygrowcott 9 жыл бұрын
Sonia A. Oh right, so Nijinsky was more bisexual than homosexual? If he had married Karsavina, I wonder if Diaghilev would've fired them both...
@millriv1792
@millriv1792 10 жыл бұрын
What is the date of this film?
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 10 жыл бұрын
hi millriv i am not sure - by Karsavina's appearance i would say late 1950 - Svetlana Beriosova, who was born in 1932 is described as a young dancer here and she joined Sadlers Wells in 1955.
@internationalballetschool3279
@internationalballetschool3279 2 жыл бұрын
She says Pavlova Nijinsky and the others she just had to look at her program to see that she left out Baldina
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall Жыл бұрын
good point
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 11 жыл бұрын
hi TheBallet1 LOL - i think i will be able shortly to go into time machine production - i sense i really great market! in the meantime you are more than welcome to borrow my old trusty tardis! yes a woman of substance of great substance - she was in Diaghilev's social circle for this very reason.
@TheBallet1
@TheBallet1 11 жыл бұрын
you'll need to move the time machine to St Petersburg or Paris first !! lol
@paulybarr
@paulybarr 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder whose rather camp idea it was to have the great lady sit at the piano and pretend to play. Her hands are nowhere near the right notes. But isn't it a wonderful record to see and hear her talking about the Ballets Russes?
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall 3 жыл бұрын
yes, wonderful hearing her talk
@adiksadiatabs
@adiksadiatabs Жыл бұрын
who tf is coughing in the background?
@JohnRaymondHall
@JohnRaymondHall Жыл бұрын
i think it is her dog trying to get her attention
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