Tamburello Warnings

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WhenF1WasReal

WhenF1WasReal

Ай бұрын

WARNING: IMAGES OF ACCIDENT AFTERMATHS WHICH SOME MIGHT FIND DISTURBING
Before Ayrton Senna's fatal accident there had been several crashes at the Tamburello corner where he died. Had more notice been taken and safety measures upgraded, Senna might still be with us today.
#AyrtonSenna #Imola #Tamburello #Ratzenberger

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@markko17
@markko17 Ай бұрын
Something that never gets mentioned is that the year before, when Michael Andretti went to McLaren, one of the things he said he didn't like about F1 cars was how low the sides of the cockpit were cut. F1, full of their usual arrogance, just rolled their eyes no doubt thinking, "What do these guys from CART know? We're Formula 1, we're the epitome of motor racing." The day after Senna's accident, one of the first things they talked about changing was the sides of the cockpit.
@PointNemo9
@PointNemo9 Ай бұрын
Who was that quote from then?
@diesel5460
@diesel5460 Ай бұрын
Could of changed a lot of things .still wouldn't of changed the fact a poor weld done the day before to adjust his steering column failed causing him to lose steering an go straight .the crash it self normally would of been survivable but a push rod penetrated his helmet causing his death
@Pewnhound112
@Pewnhound112 Ай бұрын
It’s funny that you mention that because when I first started watching F1 in the early 90s, I was kind of shocked at how poorly sorted and flimsy F1 cars looked compared to their Indycar counterparts. They looked like kit cars next to indycars.
@benpasquale6353
@benpasquale6353 Ай бұрын
@@Pewnhound112 thats true.. i noticed that and started comparing the 2 when i started watching the cart world series...indy cars were much stronger
@garethsavin4464
@garethsavin4464 Ай бұрын
The fact that Roland’s death was confirmed away from the circuit tells you all you need to know about the FIA at that time. Announce it away from the circuit and we can carry on here and not lose millions or have it confirmed on the track and the race gets cancelled. If anyone has seen the video of Roland’s body being extracted from his wrecked Simtek (& just a warning it’s very disturbing) you can clearly see he was already gone from us. So the FIA decided that money was more important than a drivers life and the race went ahead and everybody knows what happened the following day. One thing that always intrigued me about the Tamburello corner was the run off area. It’s a well known fact that the river behind dictated that the outer wall couldn’t be moved so it amazed me the choice of surfaces used in that corners run off area,grass and then tarmac. Surely sand or gravel would have been a better choice laid in such a way that the nearer the wall the deeper it got say rising from track level on the circuits edge to say 4ft at the wall. It just beggars belief that with all those close calls that came before that fatal day nothing was ever done.
@eddherring4972
@eddherring4972 Ай бұрын
There may have been no way to increase the runoff for Tamburello on the outside but it could have been re-profiled on the inside. The death of Ayrton Senna has saved the lives of many drivers since, I lm certainly aware of changes the Sauber team made in the aftermath of Ayrton’s death which potentially saved Karl Wendlinger. The fact that there were no deaths between 1994 and 2014 is testament to improvements in safety, to cars, helmets and protective clothing & equipment, crash testing, circuit design, safety structures, barrier design, run off areas and race control intervention and marshalling.
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
One of the positives to come out of the awful weekend was an acceptance that circuits had to change to ensure driver safety - re-profiling Tamburello makes perfect sense today (rather than the awful chicane solution they came up with) but would have been out of the question then. In a similar way Lauda's accident at the Nurburgring changed the way drivers looked at circuit safety back then.
@paultapper9388
@paultapper9388 Ай бұрын
I've always thought that after the previous accidents, the Tamburello/Villeneuve section could have been 'moved' closer to the start/finish line. That would then allow for more runoff on the outside of Tamburello and some at Villeneuve too.
@RobertEHunt-dv9sq
@RobertEHunt-dv9sq Ай бұрын
Incredible video. Thank you for posting. Very informative. It seems in all businesses, when money is at stake, lives are less precious. Very sad time in F1 history.
@racingklaus
@racingklaus Ай бұрын
Just discovered your channel, pretty amazing videos, keep up the good work
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words, hope you'll continue to enjoy future videos too
@racingklaus
@racingklaus Ай бұрын
@@WhenF1WasReal absolutly, its always good to learn new things and get modern updates about things you already know
@user-kz3ik7pm7o
@user-kz3ik7pm7o Ай бұрын
Gérard Berger and Ayrton Senna had gone to the Tamburello corner because they were concerned about how dangerous the corner was but the wall couldn't be moved back. Ayrton said someone would die at that corner but it ended up being him that was killed at the corner. I believe if they had gone to the people in charge of the circuit modifications and asked them to put a tyre barrier and a gravel trap at that corner, the possibility of a serious injury would have been diminished. Rip Ayrton ❤
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
Sadly, the idea of changing the actual circuit was never considered before Senna‘s accident. Starting the corner earlier and making it sharper would have given them the room for a proper runoff and the walls.
@HangoverTelevision
@HangoverTelevision Ай бұрын
Appearently Imola 1994 was the clash of Old Formula 1 meeting new Formula 1. An old bumpy track suitable for heavy cars which can take damage and these forces meeting new F1 cars, which are made to be as light as possible but in a time where people still thought: "Oh we can put everything on our car and it will somehow work" - in case of Senna's car: His steering column was extended using a simple rod, no one cared about even testing out if it could withstand the forces from a bumpy track with high chicanes or even the g-forces from the side as well. If you look at the onboard and slow it down, it might be that this column-extension already broke the lap before, because of all the forces applied to it, which it simply couldn't withstand.
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
The experts brought in by the Italian courts reached exactly this conclusion - the weld had been coming apart for most of the lap and finally failed completely under the high load of cornering at Tamburello
@BobGeogeo
@BobGeogeo Ай бұрын
The bumpiness of that turn is the only thing I wish was included in this video, so well done to the author. Damon's book mentions that he avoided the bumps in Tamburello on a slightly slower line than what he saw Senna taking. Also the cars where running without skid blocks so when they bottomed out it was the whole floor. If the plank and skid blocks were part of the initial 1994 rule change...
@ianwalker4030
@ianwalker4030 27 күн бұрын
I have read that Sennas steering column was made shorter/Not longer
@HangoverTelevision
@HangoverTelevision 27 күн бұрын
@@ianwalker4030 it was cut and a metal rod was welded in to extend it.
@jv4200
@jv4200 Ай бұрын
Behind the tragedy. Love it. Top narration
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
Thank you
@timyo6288
@timyo6288 Ай бұрын
sennas crash was demonstrably survivable he was unlucky to have a headstrike ratz was unsurvivable
@fontheking5
@fontheking5 Ай бұрын
Yes, from the right front tyre which became dislodged in accident and pinched between the wall and the car at such an angle that it hit him in the head sadly
@jasonmoyer
@jasonmoyer Ай бұрын
He would have likely died from a basilar skull fracture if his helmet hadn't been pierced.
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive 26 күн бұрын
it's a really uncommon failing and anyone can figure how hard it is to found a similar failure in motorsport history. this is enough to be suspicious. a column is essencial to turn and shouldn't broke, even on everyday's car, it's not something that broke every 4 corners.
@MCFoultier
@MCFoultier 28 күн бұрын
There were more than warnings at Tamburello. That Berger survived was a miracle to be honest.
@VeeFTeeS
@VeeFTeeS Ай бұрын
Currently released "Senna's last lap - HQ" here on YT shows that the steering wheel bent down in Tamburello so much that the display became visible above the steering wheel... and then snapped.... :(
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
It’s very clear from the in car video, the way the car behaved in the accident and the testimony of expert witnesses who told the court the steering column had snapped because of a poor weld
@FlyBoyGrounded
@FlyBoyGrounded Ай бұрын
This is by far the best documentary KZfaq post I've seen on this subject. It pains me to disagree with anything you've said but I must comment on teams withdrawing their drivers or not. Correct me if I'm wrong, Ferrari didn't withdraw from Germany in 76 or Lotus from Italy in 78 because they believed their drivers had survived the accidents. At Imola in 1994, the race was still in progress, albeit under a red flag and as far as I know, no definitive news had emerged of Senna's demise. On that basis, I don't think Williams could be blamed for continuing. I don't know how Simtek came to their decision but maybe it was an ill-advised effort to respect Ratzenberger by not giving up?
@adambrush5445
@adambrush5445 Ай бұрын
Simtech said its what Roland would have wanted and they knew the guy obviously so I take their word on it personally.
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words. Should Williams and Simtek have withdrawn? I think you might be right and there could be a case to be made in Williams defence, but for Simtek I can't see any - saying that Ratz would have wanted them to carry on is a cop out in my book.
@smellymewi
@smellymewi Ай бұрын
That race shouldn't have carried on after Roland's death. The fact that they believed that the race must go on is still appalling to me.
@stephenterrilltraveller
@stephenterrilltraveller Ай бұрын
Good informative video.
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive 26 күн бұрын
it's obvious that many and many violent crashes keep happening in the same corner, you have to question yourself about this specifiic corner. maybe senna and berger didn't found a solution, but it wasn't their job, it's not somehing you can came up with within 5 minutes, and it's why sefety is the role of full times employees at the fia. more importantely, despite what people say, death was a concern, each time a driver died, even in the 70s, there was always a seftey improvement somehow. so theses accidents should have alert some responsables, i'm absolutely agree. it's a accumulation of negligence: williams who performed a such crucial change to the steering wheel in a hurry, the corner too fast for a lack of room for braking, the bumps who destroy your car and push you to the wall in a spot you know the consequences can only be bad, the f1 itself, who waited for deaths to improve safety.
@8-bitsteve500
@8-bitsteve500 Ай бұрын
I was a huge Williams fan and was delighted when they signed Ayrton but in the days/weeks after his crash, I was no longer a Williams fan and I despise them now. I think without a doubt they are responsible for his crash, the steering weld did cause the accident for sure. Did you know Williams took the telemetry box out of Senna's Williams and smashed it? I hold Frank Williams, Patrick Head and Adrian Newey responsible and I'll never forgive any of them for the accident or their "cover up" afterwards, ie Coulthard saying it's normal that a wheel moves so much (which several drivers including Michele Alboreto said was utter nonsense!). To hell with Williams!
@adambrush5445
@adambrush5445 Ай бұрын
I herd they got a hold of the car before it was impounded and had the opportunity to delete data at least but did they actually smash the box??? Is that not proof of destruction of evidence? That shouldn't stand in court would it?
@markwilliams1941
@markwilliams1941 Ай бұрын
Lol calm down dear , Senna pushed too hard and sailed off on the bumps. You were never a Williams fan lol a McLaren one yes , bitter they took your god lol.
@mesoanarchy
@mesoanarchy Ай бұрын
@@markwilliams1941- …you worked for Williams?… or maybe getting paid by the keystroke by F1?
@kevfartt
@kevfartt Ай бұрын
If you watch the on board footage it’s pretty clear he damages the steering column at the chicane which causes it to drop downward towards his lap by an inch or two. I’m not in doubt the adjustments to the length of the shaft had something to do with the failure. Whether we should hold individuals accountable for this I’m unsure. Maybe more of a series of unfortunate events that led to one of the worst tragedies of all time.
@markwilliams1941
@markwilliams1941 Ай бұрын
@@mesoanarchy Senna can't tell if his steering column is moving that's very unlikely, no one should be held accountable , all accidents should have been survivable, that's is where F1 failed.
@MrDavidfball
@MrDavidfball Ай бұрын
funny how the idea of widening the track outwards was the only option looked at, no one looked at taking ground from the inside of the track the part now used for the chicane that now sits there
@garethsavin4464
@garethsavin4464 Ай бұрын
Yeah I was thinking exactly the same,because the river behind Tamburello dictates the wall cant be pushed back then why not reclaim land from the inside and move the corner further away from the wall? I guess we will never know but it’s such a shame this wasn’t looked into as an option.
@adambrush5445
@adambrush5445 Ай бұрын
I don't agree that Simtech was wrong in starting the Grand Prix. They knew Ratzy and decided it's what he would have wanted. Good video though. I didn't know Senna also had a basilar skull fracture.
@esciteach7997
@esciteach7997 Ай бұрын
guys ; Williams was found GUILTY in an English COURT of LAW of NEGLIENCE for the unsafe changes made in and around Senna's steering column. READ ABOUT IT for yourself on Y.T. Stop with the Tambulello. Senna crashed b/c his car (due to changes in steering) couldn't steer around curve.
@teenamilton4030
@teenamilton4030 25 күн бұрын
What they did after Ratzenberger' death was unforgiveable and led to Sennas death! As you say too much money to be lost.
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive 26 күн бұрын
nowadays f1 can stop a session after 1 lap or 1 minutes and still find good excuses in its terms and condition to not refund a penny to anyone. las vegas FP1 & 2 2023, belgium 2021. so in 1994 lawyers wasn't that good and still thought therace might be 100% covered to get the broadcastors and spectator's money.
@mathertom
@mathertom Ай бұрын
It'll never, ever be agreed as to how the crash occurred but everyone claiming the steering column failed and caused it will have to explain why the car oversteered right before it went off. There are three dark patches of tarmac at Tamburello in 1994. Not particularly notable except for that as the car goes over the third one, it hits bumps and oversteers, noticeable to everyone because the front of the car changes angle and starts pointing at the kerb on the inside of the turn. It's only fleeting as you'd expect a driver of Senna's calibre and reflexes to counter steer except when he does is the exact time he goes spearing off the track. Watch any video uploaded of the onboard of Senna's car and you see it go over the third dark patch, he oversteers and then he goes off. It's unmistakable and undeniable. Now I know if you suggest the tire pressures were low people jump down your throat and say he did the fastest lap the lap before and temperatures/pressures were up to race spec by the time he entered Tamburello so it couldn't be that the crash was caused by that so there are other ways the car might oversteer. The FW16 in it's Imola configuration was still suffering aerodynamically and Williams were still re-learning how to setup cars with non-active suspension. Senna would've absolutely set it up for the maximum performance but did he do it at a cost of safety? It was obviously bottoming out through Tamburello - Scumacher was right behind and confirmed it, the cameras from his car and throughout the broadcast show it. There was debris on the track from the Lehto/Lamy incident and it doesn't take much to run over and puncture a tire. It's just not inconceivable and in fact very likely that something to do with either the set up causing it to run too low and bottom out or a puncture to cause the same thing to have it skate along the track surface and momentarily lose tractioin only to regain it the moment it rebounds. If Senna's wheel is turning to the left to navigate the left hand turn then the moment it grounds the friction of everything will be lost so it'll turn to the inside (like we see) and then it grips again having counter steered, the front wheels would be facing right and it'd take him straight off. That for me is the most likely. Hitting a wall at 131 mph will cause a lot of things on a car to snap and break, hence the broken steering column. That it was a crap welding job and a bad design is not up for debate, it absolutely was and everyone involved has admitted as such. However I fail to believe it was so bad it was unsafe to race. Williams designers, engineers and mechanics would never have sent anyone out to die knowing that it would fail or could fail, they're not that callous. I also don't believe that Newey would still be designing cars now with a clear conscience if he was hiding something, he's not that good of an actor nor is he anything but human. It got lost in the need to find someone or something to blame with the way Italian law worked and the fact that it was Senna so he could never have made any mistakes at all in either setting up or driving the car. Fans will believe what they want to believe.
@Ben94
@Ben94 Ай бұрын
Lots of yappping, lots of nonsense. There's no sign of oversteer, not on the onboard of Senna, nor from the perspective of Schumacher, nor from the off track camera. Last seconds of Senna's footage shows he's jerking the wheel violently to the left, TWICE. Case closed, go bring your nonsense somewhere else
@SpaceHCowboy
@SpaceHCowboy Ай бұрын
I feel what you're saying, since that day when I watched it live I've always sat on the fence.... And I know exactly what you're saying when you see the car twitching and oversteering then it snaps the opposite way. Then I read Adrian Neweys book and it confirmed what everyone always knew, the 94 car being almost a direct copy of the the 93 car minus active suspension and launch control. The 1993 chassis, configured for 94 minus the banned driver aids wasn't a bad car, just not designed to be ran with passive suspension because the way the floor would interact. I don't objectively know what caused the accident and neither does anyone else. The Italian courts couldn't even prove or disprove a thing, who are we but mere mortals.
@danielrimbaud-cantor
@danielrimbaud-cantor Ай бұрын
As imagens imediatamente anteriores à batida "desapareceram" da câmera on board de Senna. Essas imagens provavelmente mostrariam o volante solto nas mãos do Ayrton, pouco antes da colisão.
@alkispanou2841
@alkispanou2841 Ай бұрын
True... a lot of experts have analysed the facts you're pointing here quite similarly, plus many other drivers all along have expressed their fears, on why they never wanted to go flat out on Tamburello...Nobody could prove anything...Everything was based on speculations...and after all the steering column theory seemed rather convenient for Senna's legacy...Again the true causes of this accident will never be clarified...
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal 17 күн бұрын
I'd accept all that you have to say, but the Italian University which investigated the steering column for the courts found that the breakage of the steering column was not a result of the impact and that the weld had been failing for the best part of a lap. People watch the video and disagree over whether the car turned right in an oversteer moment, but the metallurgy doesn't lie.
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive 26 күн бұрын
@8:10 i was wondering why his bloody head was so big but it's the neck brace that we see. they used it in that kinda of head trauma to avoid injuries getting worse.
@locsta9892
@locsta9892 6 күн бұрын
Have you seen a close up of his face from that picture
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive 5 күн бұрын
@@locsta9892 no i haven't, apparently the only remaining picture of its face has been destroyed and the only last remaining are with senna's family, to my knowledge.
@andrewbiggins9404
@andrewbiggins9404 Ай бұрын
Formula 1 is like any business I've ever worked in. Nobody wants to listen to warnings of impending disaster until its too late. Is this human nature or a case of money first, human cost second?
@HangoverTelevision
@HangoverTelevision Ай бұрын
Blanchimont is comparable to Tamburello, yet that place had always had a big gravel run-off area and tyre walls. When it gets to Tamburello, tyre walls wouldn't have made a difference, because the car would have been stopped dead-end putting all the energy onto the driver (you can see how Barrichello's car was stopped) PLUS back then tyre walls didn't have the band in front, so the tyres would have come lose and flying around, causing even more damage.
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
Yes, it would have been impossible to make the corner safe and back then the idea of changing a corner for driver safety was beyond consideration
@HangoverTelevision
@HangoverTelevision Ай бұрын
@@WhenF1WasReal yea because as mentioned above: it was a clash of 2 worlds. Keke Rosberg said in his german commentary on Spa 1992 that he felt Formula 1 was in a dangerous/treacherous feeling of safety. We also have to admit, that back in those days, the medical understanding of crashes were also still not 100% there where they are now, with possibilities of having scans in CT, MRI etc. Nowadays if any of the cases until 1994 where drivers escaped happened, drivers would not be allowed to race until a further check is done - back then Sid Watkins asked 3 questions and if you could answer them and seemed fine, you were ready to go again.
@AppleLauda_destroyer99942
@AppleLauda_destroyer99942 13 күн бұрын
I don't understand why Tamburello wasn't changed in 1990 after what happened to Gerhard Berger in 1989
@yellowflagswaving
@yellowflagswaving Ай бұрын
ironecally, without the death of Senna his death, much more F1 drivers would have died
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
That is indeed the case - and whilst racing will always be dangerous, it’s important for the sport to heed warnings like this one (and that of Grosjean) to improve safety in the long term
@andrew28111972
@andrew28111972 Ай бұрын
8 was amazed how many accidents were at that corner I rememrase but didn't think it was imola because of the adverts sign at the cornerber seeing something about the other accidents Michelle and pat
@Pewnhound112
@Pewnhound112 Ай бұрын
Imola was, and still is, a death trap, like having a particle accelerator in your downstairs bathroom. Narrow track, no runoff, wickedly fast. It is not done claiming lives even with the improvements.
@Tacko14
@Tacko14 Ай бұрын
It occurs to me, not just in circuit design but any system really, laws, software, roadcars, the nets’ security, politics, anything, that things are designed to go well as long as they go well. Contingency is never built in. It is assumed that things will always go according to plan, as per spec. And whenever you suggest it might not, during the planning stage, you’re efficiently and elegantly pushed aside as a miser, a non believer. True that, I’m a Thomas. Show me. Give me practical, empirical proof. Of course not. Their dream must be made true. Well, hear me: the misers have always been proven right in the long run. QED
@hodgheg
@hodgheg 24 күн бұрын
Surely even if the corner couldn't be altered, a layer of tyres before the concrete wall (as was commonly used at the time) would have absorbed significant amounts of impact and been safer? The fact that the Italian authorities prosecuted the Williams team after the accident always struck me as a blatant attempt to shift the blame. Having said that though, I don't think the Williams team ever really recovered from the death of the greatest driver of the era.
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal 17 күн бұрын
Seems like an entirely reasonable expectation. The tyre wall on the outside of Blanchimont certainly did much to save the life of Luciano Burti when he crashed there in 2001 at an even higher speed than Senna, albeit the angle of impact was different.
@ivoidwarrantiesuk
@ivoidwarrantiesuk Ай бұрын
Here is a conspiracy for you. The team that seemed to have the most crashes is Williams. Senna - Williams 1994 Patrese - Williams 1992 Piquet - Williams 1987 But Frank Williams also had a life changing accident in 1986. Is the Williams team cursed?
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
Would certainly seem so. Even after winning the Spanish Grand Prix with Maldonado, celebrations were cut short by the fire in their pit garage...
@DaRemy
@DaRemy Ай бұрын
Why did you pick a pic of Montermini here?
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
Yea, sorry error on my part
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive 26 күн бұрын
unfortunately i don't think senna was instantly killed, he was moving on his car and probably survive 3 minutes with a piece of metal in his head, probably long and painful minutes. even if for us theses 5-10 minutes don't make a difference, there is, because it's a very painful death. even worse, i think theses head movement were because of his pain. maybe the pain was so strong that is was kepting him conscient and alive. there is lot of example in lifes that even after head injury, people can stay conscient or alive, even severe ones. if you take the example of wendlingler, everyone thought he was dead, but he recovered and is still alive when i'm writing this.
@mautrindade
@mautrindade Ай бұрын
All Sennas injuries were due to the piece of suspension.
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
It’s slightly more nuanced than that - the primary brain injury was caused by the suspension penetrating his helmet and skull, but the impact of the tyre to his head caused other fatal injuries. It’s very likely that if the tyre and suspension had missed his head, Senna would have survived
@MrSmalley300
@MrSmalley300 Ай бұрын
F1 owned by Liberty Media is taking F1 in the wrong direction, we are seeing more and more street racing which I fear will end up in a drivers death to make the FIA wake up.
@master-kq3nw
@master-kq3nw Ай бұрын
They need put chicane 1987 why they didn't good question Villeneuve also dangerous turn so fast they didn't slow him down
@stephanhi2463
@stephanhi2463 Ай бұрын
8:56 is Andrea Montermini in Spain
@garethsavin4464
@garethsavin4464 Ай бұрын
That photo was from Montermini’s crash from qualifying in Barcelona I believe. He was chosen to replace Roland and this would have been his first appearance for the Simtek team. I can’t imagine what went through the whole teams minds when he had this huge shunt but luckily he survived. I’m pretty sure the fall out from this was that ridiculous tyre wall chicane hastily erected to deliberately slow the cars down.
@leonardovilla9403
@leonardovilla9403 Ай бұрын
The problem wasn't the curve, the problem was the poor British engineering in reduce the diameter of the steering bus...that broke and hit as an arpon Senna head, perforing Senna helmet and hurt him to dead...so the curve was dangerous, yes, but the problem was not the crash that always can be dangerous but the change of the streng of this piece of the steering, cause the fatality, he could survive if this piece wasn't modify in the way it was to be less wide...
@annakisfaludinebaan
@annakisfaludinebaan Ай бұрын
I'm a grandmother, I don't understand cars, but I watched the races. Senna's death shocked me. Now, on the occasion of the 30th anniversary, I watched a lot of videos and cried, because it was a terrible blow and it hurt. A race where 3 people were injured, 2 of those 3 died and were not stopped is a disgrace as it is. In Schumacher's place, I would not have stood in the place of the winner. I never loved him, but not now, although fate has punished him very much! Couldn't the entire course have been poorly designed, with so many dead and injured at this point? Here in Hungary, we have had such tracks for a very long time, our track is said to be slow, but very safe, it is now being rebuilt and renovated. The competitors love me and I love them and I was very afraid of them.
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
Things were even worse - there were eight spectators and a policeman injured when debris from the startline crash went into the crowd; whilst four mechanics were injured when a wheel came off Alboreto's Minardi in the restarted race. It was an awful weekend all round...
@MooncricketsInc
@MooncricketsInc Ай бұрын
So benetton chose to race, along with the other teams that day, Is the reason Schumacher had that skiing accident a decade ago? Wow, one ignorant and stupid grandmother. It's a shame you reproduced.
@RichardMcLaren
@RichardMcLaren 4 күн бұрын
8:55 That's not Ratzenberger.
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal 3 күн бұрын
Yep, sorry I picked the wrong photo from the library for that section
@anthonywebber8152
@anthonywebber8152 Ай бұрын
Berger was lucky
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
Indeed. I for one was sure that he had been killed in the accident - and that was before the car burst into flames. He had a guardian angel on each shoulder that day, that's for sure
@bobbys4327
@bobbys4327 Ай бұрын
Oddly enough, drivers slow for a chicane but not a sharp corner. Blaming the corner is crazy. Many of the accidents are from the cars failures, the rest, driver fail!
@simongl1985
@simongl1985 Ай бұрын
How that was just a concrete wall as a barrier with nothing to absorb energy is beyond me. That being said it is Williams’s fault the steering failed
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
The problem was - and to some extent still is - that track safety wasn’t planned to address an accident caused when something out of the ordinary goes wrong. Who would have ever thought that a steering column would fail on an F1 in the 1990s?
@Formaldehydex
@Formaldehydex Ай бұрын
Experts seem to agree that Senna would have walked away from the incident if the right front wheel had not struck his helmet. But you think you know far more than them either through ignorance or arrogance, or both.
@conors4430
@conors4430 Ай бұрын
Sorry, but who is the arrogant one? When plenty of Formula One drivers complained about that corner.
@Formaldehydex
@Formaldehydex Ай бұрын
@@conors4430 It wasn’t a corner at all when F1 cars had the proper ride height, even of that era. So go right ahead and “arrogantly” find a single F1 driver at that time who was openly critical of that “corner” prior to that incident.
@henkverzeijl1525
@henkverzeijl1525 Ай бұрын
"Experts" have been instructed to blatantly ignore many bits of crucial evidence in this case. Don't know what i'm talking about? Then i guess you're the ignorant one... But apparently that's what happens when you let NatGeo dictate your truth👋
@kurtisduke2685
@kurtisduke2685 Ай бұрын
There is NO greatest of all time every era of tech, cars and driver style is different.
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal Ай бұрын
You’re right, but as fans we are free to speculate about how drivers from each era would compare
@davissi
@davissi Ай бұрын
Why are you talking like that? Really??
@nelauren
@nelauren 19 күн бұрын
Ironically, Senna‘s biggest enemy was Senna. He was a personal friend of the track owner and he could’ve had tires put at the Tamborello curve. But he disliked tires as he had a bad experience with them in Mexico in which his car flipped.
@WhenF1WasReal
@WhenF1WasReal 18 күн бұрын
That's interesting - I've not heard that story before, thanks for sharing
@nicolassanchez8318
@nicolassanchez8318 Ай бұрын
Roland was dead for sure. He died right there and you can see the color had left his skin. The Grand Prix should have been canceled. The recent floods cancelled the Imola GP but not a death.
@garethsavin4464
@garethsavin4464 Ай бұрын
One of the most horrific images from Roland’s crash was the close up of his crash helmet as his body was slumped in the cockpit. You can clearly see blood that has come from behind the visor across the top of it. It still haunts me today.
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