TANJIRO VS JONATHAN JOESTAR | DEATH BATTLE REACTION!

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@marmyeater
@marmyeater Жыл бұрын
Jonathan's base stats were just WAY too high for Tanjiro.
@DIEFORME173
@DIEFORME173 Жыл бұрын
Not way to high only his speed
@bradleybarnett1469
@bradleybarnett1469 Жыл бұрын
@@DIEFORME173 his strength massively outmatched Tanjiro
@DIEFORME173
@DIEFORME173 Жыл бұрын
@@bradleybarnett1469 not really
@bradleybarnett1469
@bradleybarnett1469 Жыл бұрын
Dio/Tarkus both have insane strength feats that massively outdo Muzan and any other demon
@DIEFORME173
@DIEFORME173 Жыл бұрын
@@bradleybarnett1469 not really that Tarkus feat is actually below Muzan who upscales from a demon who is half as strong as Tarkus so 🤷🏾
@slurpingmario8006
@slurpingmario8006 Жыл бұрын
Light beams didn’t kill him….those are fluids that dio shoots out of his eyes, also their reasoning is that DIO’s body is weaker in part 3 because it stated that the body is rejecting him, he’s able to keep up with his own stand which is as fast as Star platinum, therefore following that logic, Jonathan > part 1 Dio > part 3 DIO ~ the world, it’s not that hard to understand tbh
@slurpingmario8006
@slurpingmario8006 Жыл бұрын
Also experience doesn’t really matter in this fight since Jonathan has fought people far more experienced before anyway
@budman9027
@budman9027 Жыл бұрын
also, even if they we're light beams, Jonathan did in fact put his hands up before they could reach him, they just so happen to have also gone through him.
@slurpingmario8006
@slurpingmario8006 Жыл бұрын
@@budman9027 also a fair point
@sigasmith
@sigasmith Жыл бұрын
Jonathan blocked the beams, they just went through him anyways. Also considering that Joseph dodged light and just barely dodged and reflected the beams, they gotta be at least near light speed which makes Jonathan's feat of blocking it more impressive.
@siblingstrytoplaynice-comm9029
@siblingstrytoplaynice-comm9029 Жыл бұрын
Also, to be fair, jonathon got distracted by his wife’s sudden appearance when Dio shot his “space ripper stingy eyes” at him.
@Luigi-ki5kx
@Luigi-ki5kx Жыл бұрын
Bro wasn’t mad at the light beam thing, bro is just biased towards tanjiro.
@SalaComMander
@SalaComMander Жыл бұрын
Honestly, even without bullshit power scaling (on both sides), I still think Jonathan would have won. Hamon is kinda busted. Also, Jonathan is not the dumbest JoJo. According to Araki, he's smarter than Josuke, but not as smart as Joseph or Jotaro, and about as smart as Giorno. He is (unsurprisingly) the physically strongest, and (apparently) tied with Giorno as both the most attractive and with the highest willpower. He is, however, the unluckiest and is tied with Joseph as having the least "explosive power," which I take to mean not having an absolute freight train Stand (in which case, apparently Crazy Diamond hits harder than even Star Platinum)
@kimberlynocelotl5601
@kimberlynocelotl5601 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I still think Jonathan will win cuz of Hamon.
@EnemyStandUser_
@EnemyStandUser_ 11 ай бұрын
source for the intelligence claim?
@SalaComMander
@SalaComMander 11 ай бұрын
@@EnemyStandUser_ Weekly Shonen Jump #13 from 1997
@EnemyStandUser_
@EnemyStandUser_ 11 ай бұрын
@@SalaComMander might sound like cope but i dont believe that shit, its just like the stand stats
@SalaComMander
@SalaComMander 11 ай бұрын
@@EnemyStandUser_ Sure, that's probably a fair enough comparison. I'd actually put a bit more weight on these than those, just because Stand stats are a lot more vague and less tangible, but we can definitely agree that not even Araki himself is a reliable source of information.
@KEEPTALKIN8215
@KEEPTALKIN8215 Жыл бұрын
Well in part 3 Dio said that Jonathan's body was rejecting him. So Dio in part 3 is weaker than his part 1 self. Before you say anything part 3 Dio is stronger with the world ,but we see Dio react to light speed attacks without the world . So an overall weaker version of himself was able to do it. So part 3 Dio with the world > part 1 Dio > part 3 Dio no the world.
@bradleybarnett1469
@bradleybarnett1469 Жыл бұрын
YES. Why don't people get this? Dio added 0 ACTUAL STRENGTH to Jonathan's body! And, before people say, "But the picture they used was after he absorbed Joseph's Blood!" We have to keep in mind, Jonathan's body didn't have the time to process and accept Dio, AND the only increase we saw was for THE WORLD. If Dio had other options, he wouldn't definitely used his Lazers or freezing on Jotaro
@acoin1116
@acoin1116 Жыл бұрын
@@bradleybarnett1469 In the same instant that you call the Space Ripper Stinging Eyes a "laser", you lose all credibility.
@bradleybarnett1469
@bradleybarnett1469 Жыл бұрын
@@acoin1116 I knew it's name, I'm just too lazy to Type it. Space Ripper Stingy Eyes is so fast, it is basically a Laser made of liquid (in an instant, it pierces Jonathan's hands and divides the clouds)
@MrAuthor3DS
@MrAuthor3DS Жыл бұрын
@@bradleybarnett1469 You could just say "beam"...
@franciscoOrellana29
@franciscoOrellana29 Жыл бұрын
@@acoin1116 you misspell a word, i automatically win this argument 😎
@maxdrags3115
@maxdrags3115 Жыл бұрын
At the VERY least, Jonathan is comparable to light speed, because he is comparable to other hamon users. And I don't think Joseph and Caesar outright dodged light either, just reacted fast.
@Spark_Guerra
@Spark_Guerra Жыл бұрын
They reacted fast to dodge light
@Ramonaqueenofhell
@Ramonaqueenofhell Жыл бұрын
Good to see the worlds saltiest crybabies back to reacting to death battle
@WebbedManiac
@WebbedManiac Жыл бұрын
15:30 Lmao. Maybe consider that Dio caught Jonathan off-guard on his wedding night. He wasn't prepared.
@merlinthestrange8543
@merlinthestrange8543 Жыл бұрын
Dio's body was outright stated to be weaker (as noted by the sidebar twice iirc), due to Johnathan's body rejecting him, thus the argument can be made that Johnathan can just scale directly to Part 3 Dio (in addition to a plethora of other things Dio has done such as the Eye Beam thing splitting a cloud, which Johnathan reacted to [albeit it ripped through his hand] ). As for the other stuff Tanjiro stuff scaling wise, most of it involves manga spoilers which I wouldn't want to well you know spoil, but uh yeah mostly that.
@nightninja1745
@nightninja1745 Жыл бұрын
My hero has: SHOTOOOOO Jo Jo has: DIOOOOO Demon Slayer has: NEZUKOOOO What does Josh Say? BOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
@MrAuthor3DS
@MrAuthor3DS Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but your argument against Jonathan's quickness says nothing about _Dio's_ own quickness. Or that the mortal shot was a surprise attack.
@Anime_Stand_5
@Anime_Stand_5 Жыл бұрын
15:25 Actually they can say that. The verbal consent Is that Jonathan does scale to the part 3 stuff because there was no indication that DIO had gotten faster or stronger within the time difference between arcs. Not to Mention that he was debatably weaker in part 3 because his body was confirmed to be resisting him. And also, Another reason the scaling is fair is because in part 3: That’s Jonathan’s freaking body. And even if you only wanted to go off of scaling, When Jonathan fought DIO In Part 1, he never got shit blitzed whenever they threw hands
@MigetsuNewgate
@MigetsuNewgate Жыл бұрын
Your underestimating Jonathan
@Silent_Fool
@Silent_Fool Жыл бұрын
Jonathan’s voice actor here is so good, he might be better than JYB. No disrespect to JYB, he’s good as Jonathan.
@venom3421
@venom3421 Жыл бұрын
I think you guys should read the black tabs more often. It has important information that you missed
@budman9027
@budman9027 Жыл бұрын
you're asking too much for these guys.
@nyancatneil205
@nyancatneil205 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see more Death Battle reactions
@johnnysparkle
@johnnysparkle Жыл бұрын
Nezuko would go with Jonathan after this episode.
@AngelCam7
@AngelCam7 Жыл бұрын
Great to see your DEATH BATTLE! reaction videos again. 🙂
@LoanRepresentative
@LoanRepresentative Жыл бұрын
I mean, Dio with a body rejecting him was able to keep up with Jotaro Yeah, Dio's old body wasn't as strong, but at least it didn't reject him
@slurpingmario8006
@slurpingmario8006 Жыл бұрын
They can compare them to doma because he fought muzan, who is > doma
@haxllik209
@haxllik209 Жыл бұрын
Hey who do you think would win magneto from x-men or risotto from jojo's bizarre adventure?
@flash980
@flash980 Жыл бұрын
Alright Josh let's see wht you on
@9TrixieTurner6
@9TrixieTurner6 Жыл бұрын
This was a dope one, Jonathan is the only Jojo I like.
@maxdrags3115
@maxdrags3115 Жыл бұрын
He's my favorite.
@marmyeater
@marmyeater Жыл бұрын
He's definitely my favorite, but I like all of them up to Giorno. Jolyne is a bit iffy, but she's starting to grow on me.
@ignacioalonsoruizalcantara624
@ignacioalonsoruizalcantara624 9 ай бұрын
They literally had faith in a 13-year-old kid than in an adult in their 20s with much more potential Jonathan not only showed more power, he showed that even without his sword he can continue fighting, which if you take away Tanjiro, he is already gone, he goes to heaven lol That's one of the thousand things I love about Jojo's, that even on the verge of defeat, the Joestars will always have one last card to play, none of the power of the script, nor power ups taken out of nowhere. It is only strategy and determination that lead the Joestar to victory Tanjiro also has his strengths and potential, but I highly doubted that a child would beat an adult with experience and even with less training than he has obtained. In conclusion, Tanjiro may have had more training and fucked the most powerful vampire in his world, but compared to Jonathan who despite receiving little training, He managed to defeat Dio being a vampire that was extremely more lethal and powerful than Michael Jackson vampire version of Demon Slayer. Jonathan may perhaps be the weakest Jojo but determination and courage are what make him great, brave and a strategist.
@marmyeater
@marmyeater Жыл бұрын
Not even gonna finish watching this.
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 Жыл бұрын
Hm, say, do you know Desk of Death Battle?
@IvanLerma759
@IvanLerma759 Жыл бұрын
Well Not That Leaves the other Season 9 Episodes They've Yet To Watch...Especially considering how soon the season will pick up.
@senpai5175
@senpai5175 Жыл бұрын
bro doesnt know how to power scale and is biased
@flash980
@flash980 Жыл бұрын
I should have said this a while back but video volume is way too low I can barely hear the analysis without headphones
@darkreflection9087
@darkreflection9087 Жыл бұрын
I actually don’t watch either of these but my little sister watches Demon Slayer
@Personalzida12139
@Personalzida12139 Жыл бұрын
oh. well I know both but I watched jojo.
@Personalzida12139
@Personalzida12139 Жыл бұрын
But I indeed do know about tanjiro
@sai1737
@sai1737 Жыл бұрын
I just need to tell you now cuz no one seems to know but araki did say in a interview that if Jotaro went back to part two he would see Joseph of hermit purple
@isabellejoestar2455
@isabellejoestar2455 Жыл бұрын
12:39 It's funny, their entire proof is a line which Jonathan didn't even say. There's literally no basis on that theory. 15:24 The thing is that Jonathan was able to react to them and do something about it, except him doing something about it DID NOT WORK. He tried blocking them and the Space Ripper Stingy Eyes went through his hands anyways. Joseph was aware that Jonathan was killed by those (and Erina most likely told Joseph that blocking them WON'T work, as she was present when it happened), so Joseph avoided contact with them at all costs, until he tried to reflect them back with glass and Hamon. Either way, Death Battle is doing mental gymnastics as always, completely wanking character feats. SRSE aren't even light, just fluids thrown out by Dio/Straizo through their eyes at high pressure and speed. Also, you can't scale JoJo's to other JoJo's, that's kinda the whole point of having them be different. Jonathan was a full-on juggernaut, his tremendous size, the fact that they needed 4 people to slow him down when playing rugby, that he can go toe-to-toe with vampires (even when he didn't have hamon), and we're talking vampires, the same creatures that take down buildings with a sliced-up hand. Not to mention Jonathan is actually a former boxer. Comparing him to Joseph is ridiculous, sure they're the same size and MAYBE same musculature, but Joseph is shown being more agile, doing backflips when dodging, catching up with Kars and being a tactical genius. Jonathan's strength comes from being a tank and outpowering opponents, while Joseph's strength comes from being a trickster and outsmarting opponents.
@moodyblues510
@moodyblues510 Жыл бұрын
They compared Jonathan to Joseph in terms of speed and reaction time since he’s clearly able to keep up with DIO who is also ftl it’s not mental gymnastics it’s called basic scaling and saying u can’t scale the other JoJos to each other is straight up ridiculous
@marmyeater
@marmyeater Жыл бұрын
13:45- Ok, fu.
@Needwagon4Speedwagon
@Needwagon4Speedwagon Жыл бұрын
Nah no one made fun of ben10 debunkers everyone pretty much agreed death battle fucked up. This? Yeah people would make fun of anyone defending tangerine
@veesiv9756
@veesiv9756 Жыл бұрын
So the company for jo-jo got bought out after season 2 and thus starting season 3 we have stands is what I was told
@marmyeater
@marmyeater Жыл бұрын
Nothing you said makes any sense, nor does it line up with what I know.
@juicyskittle6020
@juicyskittle6020 Жыл бұрын
The story is completely up to what the author writes. Company's have nothing to do with it
@veesiv9756
@veesiv9756 Жыл бұрын
@@juicyskittle6020 companies can change things there has been cases in were that happens depending on who has ownership so I didn't question that logic
@steakcakegrillbake5444
@steakcakegrillbake5444 10 ай бұрын
They ignore the fact tanjiro mastered sun breathing and could remove the strain/nerf the strain a lot
@theamazingrobin927
@theamazingrobin927 Жыл бұрын
Best Jojo
@chibira9256
@chibira9256 Жыл бұрын
mad
@damienmcneff7715
@damienmcneff7715 Жыл бұрын
I hate how they made Johnathan seem like an unreasonable jerk in the fight. Johnathan would be much more willing to listen than immediately jump to conclusions about if someone was under mind control
@SufferingSuccotash
@SufferingSuccotash Жыл бұрын
ok
@kiorili
@kiorili Жыл бұрын
tanjiro who didnt explain the situation doesn't help at all
@ramenbomberdeluxe4958
@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 Жыл бұрын
Look, it’s Death Battle, and one of the things that we have to accept that every fight is contrived. That’s okay, though! It’s just an excuse for them to fight.
@bradleybarnett1469
@bradleybarnett1469 Жыл бұрын
@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 yeah. Basically they want to give a reason on some level. But no matter what, one character has to die. And they'll remove morals from characters who don't kill
@drakeware655
@drakeware655 Жыл бұрын
@@bradleybarnett1469 That is actually one of their rules of Death Battle; if the character refuses to kill in their worlds, that morality is ignored, like Aang in his battle with Edward Elric
@huntersmith561
@huntersmith561 Жыл бұрын
You didn't slap each other
@p.k.firaga6205
@p.k.firaga6205 Жыл бұрын
There are plenty of good argument that could have been used to justify Jonathan's victory. But yeah Death Battle's research here were sloppy.
@marmyeater
@marmyeater Жыл бұрын
Not really, no.
@p.k.firaga6205
@p.k.firaga6205 Жыл бұрын
@@marmyeater no on what?
@marmyeater
@marmyeater Жыл бұрын
@@p.k.firaga6205 Their research wasn't sloppy. Jonathan's base stats were just too high.
@p.k.firaga6205
@p.k.firaga6205 Жыл бұрын
@@marmyeater that's why I said it was sloppy. They could have made a better argument for lightspeed Jonathan especially with DIO scaling and to get Jonathan's AP higher, They could have just used the ship explosion feat or Jolyne scaling because Tarkus cliff feat really only gets small building
@marmyeater
@marmyeater Жыл бұрын
@@p.k.firaga6205 Ok.
@terryjohnson8974
@terryjohnson8974 Жыл бұрын
Let be real dude lives like 3 minutes after killing Tanjiro then Nezuko rolls thru and takes his head.
@huntersmith561
@huntersmith561 Жыл бұрын
You should have gone for Jonathan
@marcos9023
@marcos9023 Жыл бұрын
Bro even the rat from part 3 can beat tanjiro lol
@marylandman8638
@marylandman8638 Жыл бұрын
Tanjiro outclassed Jonathan in swordsmanship & speed, but Jonathan is better at hand to hand combat plus he’s more durable & physically stronger.
@mev1221
@mev1221 Жыл бұрын
Speed is weird for Jonathan
@bradleybarnett1469
@bradleybarnett1469 Жыл бұрын
@@mev1221 it's complex. Light speed honestly is the best thing to compare him too. Since the Red Stone of Aja absorbed Sunlight and fired out a literal laser beam, and Joseph dodged it. And it's been said Jonathan was equal to him in hamon, but was physically superior to Joseph
@marcos9023
@marcos9023 Жыл бұрын
You guys overestimated tonjiro too much
@michaelc1732
@michaelc1732 29 күн бұрын
Hahaha you’re so salty Tanjiro lost. Accept reality Jojo kills him in one touch
@hugocastaneda6396
@hugocastaneda6396 Жыл бұрын
but tanjiro still had his sword he could of used rising sun and cut his body half
@basic_avarage_person
@basic_avarage_person Жыл бұрын
The ripple backing him up just make any cut unnecessary hard
@maxdrags3115
@maxdrags3115 Жыл бұрын
@@basic_avarage_person Plus, as shown in the Mugen Train movie, you can't cut through something hard when you are so weakened.
@moodyblues510
@moodyblues510 Жыл бұрын
Nothing stopping Jonathan from just blocking it with his sword and sending ripple through him to stop his heart
@michaelsneddon4300
@michaelsneddon4300 Жыл бұрын
Jeez blue sweater is just so salty tanjiro lost. Be alittle less biased for your favorite characters
@darkreflection9087
@darkreflection9087 Жыл бұрын
I actually don’t watch either of these but my little sister watches Demon Slayer
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