In sim you need to leave the gunner sight uncovered or you'll be having to 3rd person shoot at 1km

I love how he just used this as an opportunity to play this tank and talk about it

You're not just a bush, you're the whole jungle!!!

L3 has a stabilized gun. The gunner is essentially shouldering an anti-tank rifle. Gun jesus has a vid on the gun that the L3 uses...

Judging by all the jungle trees and pine leafs I've been killed, camo definitely works in War Thunder.

I wish gaijin would add camouflage nets to tanks that actually had them

Ah, camoflaging the Maus is easier, the enemy will never expect that factory to start driving around and shooting......

problem with trying this is bushes dont render in at certain distances nor for that matter do tanks half the time it still amazes me that u can see a plane spawn 14km away but watch as a tank pops in and out of rendering in a big open area aswell as not being able to see some tanks in planes just above the battlefield while others stand out like a double decker bus despite being the size of an l3.

Hello, in regards to you mentioning not bushing the gunners sight. If you play in ground SB, you shoot through the actual gunners sight. If you have bushes covering the gunner sight, then all you’ll be able to see is the bushes blocking your sight. In ground AB and RB, bushing the gunner sight does nothing because the camera is from the gun barrel POV. In the settings, you can actually change it to use the gunner sight instead of the barrel sight for AB and RB

Bushes mainly makes it harder to aim for small weakspots. As soon as thermals are a thing they loose their purpose of concealment that "sort of" work at lower tiers. I'd say that terrainmasking, which is what you essentially used in the video, is what can hide a tank. But even that is only useful beyond hearshot. Now the sound issues in WT is another can of worms entirely.

A guy from work had to go to a military exercise since he is also in the home guard. And it was in the winter he was at a checkpoint for 1 hour without seeing the leopard in the snow with camo on rigth next to him. Only saw it when they turned it on to move it

The ‘stabiliser’ on the l3 and most low tier tanks (all “stabilised” British 2 and 6 pdrs for definite) comes from the gun elevation not being controlled by gears but instead it is free to move up and down and is either just controlled by the gunner holding the rear of the gun or supporting it on his shoulder

Blocking the sights with a bush does blind the gunner in warthunder but only if you have the option where you have to use gunners sight turned on (which is the simulator mode gunner sight)

15:12 there is a setting "view from gunner sight" or zomething like that

If you would like a somewhat fun and interesting challenge, i would recommend going into RB and ONLY be able to use the driver, gunner (gunner sight, not the default one) and commander sights. No third person, as soon as you spawn you have to use one of the sights. I tried this and it honestly is quite a fun one

i cant believe the l3/33 cc has crew replenishment 💀 I've completely maxed out the tank and played with it for a week since then and not a single time have I needed to replenish crew. its either because the shot deflected completely, or I died instantly

13:23 Bro, all of us Walker bulldog lovers wish it had a STAB. The things I couldve done to ruin peoples days even more wouldve been ludicrous. That being said. The M41 is a incredibly capable tank without it.

15:05 fun fact if you play tank sim battles or select the option in the settings you can play from the tanks actual gun sight and decorations do block your sight

22:02 they added in sabot petals in the last major update, I think it was, so I think the thing that hit the ground there would have been one of those while your dart went above the stairs and into the BMP?

I love watching your vids, because as an Abrams mechanic, i understand how the tanks work. But watching you and hearing your thinking is very interesting to me, gives me a decent insight to the mind of tankers. 😀

There is an option that, when in "sniper mode", simulates the correct placing as for the gunsight view. That includes both position perpective and things placed in front of the gun scope (e.g. cammo and stuff), wich may block the view.

i have seen a demonstration here in germany. a tank waiting in a forest with camo is VERY well camouflaged

2:22 IIRC its stabilized by the gunner´s hands, as the gun pivots freely and is not controlled by turning a worm gear like in most guns.

"your dog is probably bigger than a L3" and "there probably isn't enough camouflage in the world to hide a maus" made me a subscriber

Didn’t know you served in the military until this video. Love your content.

You can look through the server replay and go into the PZ 3's view and see where he was looking and what he was seeing.

15:37 you could use the chines premium m41 becouse it has camo net on its cannon

Weirdest feeling is being by a tank while it drives by it shakes the ground (it was a challenger 2) but definitely a scary feeling

yes, the thermal in WT is better than in the real tank, it looks like a firefly both from the front and from the back, and the bushes that are cold also light up as far as I know, but it could be quite interesting to have tanks in the game that have thermal protection against thermal traces in thermal

In world of tanks I was the last player on my team so I hid in a bush behind a large rock and the entire enemy platoon of 7 tanks just drove past me, but that was their lack of attention and not good camo. I did manage to take 4 of them out before I got caped.

Japan low BR reddish brown camo is great to hide in a pile of corpses. And the Char 2C and 2C bis are naturals at hiding in industrial maps if you stay still or if you sit next to a streetcar in city maps.

Funnily enough, you can actually sneak around Maus. The thing is so slow that they appear invisible to your average War Thunder players, also their size made them quite decent on hiding among friendly tanks as your enemy are looking for a tank sized tanks, not a house sized tank.

15:10 : If you play Ground SB (simulator battles) it actually makes a difference, since you can't look through your bushes with sim difficulty, the bushes can actually 'block' your sights Go try it out, it's fun :) PS if you try this test video again but in SB you should take vehicles that don't exist in other tech trees because if enemies should see you they still might not care if they think that you are in their team

@10:33 The irony of your bushy tank getting killed by Mr. Anti-camo. Most players learn to recognize the bushes because even when they are "correct", they often have a different orientation and contrast compared to the cutnpaste map vegetation. And that's not even considering moving (even traverse) totally negates bushes.

Camouflaging a mouse is easy. Put a shingled roof on top, put plaster on the sides and park it in some convinient village. Maybe put a house number on it as well.

As I understand camo whether it be a human or a tank is not to hide, but to breakup an outline so that the human eye doesn't immediately pick it out. You darken the high spots, lighten the low spots. I can't speak to tanks but I can speak to infantry and I've had great success with that thinking.

the leopard with that stock cover is great protection even with thermals it hides pretty good...and are u using wifi or something?? that ping has been monsterous lol

U can always change the camera to view from the gunner sight in the ground vehicles tab in options

Just change your settings for when you aim , change it for the camera to use the gunners sight. That's what I use and have used all the time with custome historic sights

With premium account you can adjust the size and rotation, so the desert khaki camo you could make it a more even split of green and beige by shrinking it.

I'd say camos in upper tiers are more likely used to hide your weakspots. It's like if you hide the glacis of Leopard 2A5/6, the enemy wouldn't be able to tell them apart from A7Vs at the first glance, which has an almost impenetrable glacis. Same on T80s and T90s. You can put bushes on your tank to hide the weakspots. But hiding and stay out of detection? No, not gonna work.

I do not have many hours in War Thunder, and I play AA a lot because I'm not good at facing off against other tanks. But on the subject of staying hidden: Sticking to the shadows of trees & buildings has often proven useful in hiding from planes that are aware of my presence, but not my exact location.

weasel 1a2 is the best tank for this. Bushes can completely cover its front making it very very hard to see while still having tow2a/b’s which means it isnt helpless when it faces a mbt head on

Step 1 in not being seen, finding a match without wall hackers

Now only if the Type 5 Heavy from world of tanks was in here I don’t think it would be possible to put camo on that behemoth considering it dwarfs the E-100 let alone a O-I that’s a tier 6 in world of tanks that is as large if not larger than the E-100

Depending on the size of course relatively easy with proper cammo. Of course given the proper terrain and surroundings even a uhhh Naked? tank could be hidden from direct view while still having overwatch lines of sight. Now today i do actually wonder if its even possible at all to hide anything even a latrine, given how cranked up surveillance/optics systems have become.

bro said you cant sneak up on people with a ghillie suit. carlos hathcock says hold my beer.

6.37 had the same thing in an IKV72 xD

"ive shot down a plane and i shot down a tank" you shot down a tank? didnt know gliders got introduced to WT

Nice drifting dude. I am in the same steo as you 😂. However i am still worried that my RC is still having some problems. Have you learn if you also had the same problems as mine?

Should have played the ASU-57 thats a tiny one. @PAnzerPaw wheres the 6 pack camos I bought that 6 pack of each bush many many years ago and it sure covers tanks pretty well.

The plane J’d out near you so you got the kill, if you did hit him and he died it would’ve showed the tank round in the kill feed.

My recommendation, sometimes use the bushes to confuse other players, not to hide. If it’s a light and small tank I’ll probably use it to hide. It’s easier to stay alive if I can stay hidden. If it’s a large/heavy tank I’ll pay attention to how I die most often. (Weak spots or play style.) Then I’ll put the bushes to hide the weak spots, distract, distort the size, ect. Since where on the subject of surviving. Watch your ammo count. Never have the max amount, and watch where they get stored. Sometimes Gajin does sneaky tricks and stores ammo in places that will get you killed.

what is this guy on about? there is no tank there thats just a bush.

The thermals in WarThunder are more like InfraRed then seei g heat signatures right?

Camo is not about being completely covered with bushes (which isn't bad at all) It's about hiding sharp lines that would look unnatural in a treeline for example. Best camo of all is actually standing still 😂

Honestly i think the effectivenes of the bushes largely comes down to the player. For me, i can spot a tank thats covered in bushes a mile off for many reasons, obvious one being if theyre moving, the smoke thats comes off the radiator deck is a dead give away, the barrels typically cant have bushes on them so theyre very prominent, but the biggest factor is the colour of them. The standard ones are just so vibrantly yellow green that they stand out on every map, and even worse if they just simply dont belong like the autmun bushes on a a very green map are like red bullseyes, or the palm trees on literally any map becuase even on Jungle they dont match. This is why i always laugh when people say bushes are pay to win. An L3 covered in those bushes is no better hidden in a bunch of foliage than if he had no bushes on. This may be inflammatory for the conversation, but i honestly think they absolutely should add dynamic camo netting as decorations, where they will drape over barrels, over hard edges, can be bent around turret angles etc that are universal across maps, changing colour, adding branches and leaves or built up snow dependent on the map. Yknow, ACTUAL camouflaging, but then people will cry more about pay to win so its a double edged sword.

A god way to imagine the size. You are joust about a head higher than the top of the hull If you are 180 cm tall.

U can see it from his angle if u replay the battle and select that player :-).

i got a god mode with the L33...that poor object 906, so, respect the mighty machine! lmao Sometimes i just play the L33 to have a laugh, it has bushes all around, so in maps like big normandy, i park it, wait for a tank to get close and shoot him once...they look but see nothing...but bushes! one time, a t34 spent 5 minutes driving around looking for me, shooting his mg everywhere, i nearly pissed myself laughing...every time he passed by me, after driving some 40/50 meters i would shoot him again, resetting his "search mode"...fun times!

I've found that a combo of bushes on the bottom and spruce boughs on the top is good for Karelia. Spruce alone actually tends to be better for snow, but is also better in alot of forest settings than just bushes. It's dark so people kind of just ignore it

ASU-57 will always be the official bush monster.

I can’t tell with certainty with mbt but as a m109 kawest driver i can say breaking the outline of the vehicle is the most important but it is only done in the waiting position. While moving it is impossible. But also not done in fiering position. It would hinder the function of the artillery piece and also you are supposed to get into the firing position, fire and be gone again-> no camouflage. Do mbts use camouflage in firing positions?

Technically, if you do a house paint on the Maus it will hide really well.

dosent war thunder have recordings for every match that you can watch to see his angle

You should refrain from using the rangefinder at small distances, especially with guns that are relatively easy to use such as the L3/33

Humm do my eyes spot a kangaroo on your tank. Hummm I wonder are you Aussie? my good sir

"the paint is greenish" sir, that is gray, as evidence when you blended in with the road

Will you play in ASU-57?

really really wish WT had actual camo nets for camo option.

Up close its not the appearance of the tanks but the roaring of the engine that gives you away... LIke u can lower ur own engine sounds while still maxing out the enemies tank sound.... No camo will save u from the sound ur engine makes 500m away

So I bushed out the waffentrager and a few maps like the fields of Normandy I can go 6 kills + without return fire. It's kind of broken.

Mad vid

yyyaaaaaayyyyy lets gooooo new panzer vid

You didn't shoot down the plane. He J'd out.

it works some how

How did you get the netting on the barrel??

L3 has the equivalent armor as a cardboard box you mean Gotta Luv the guessing game of thinking the enemy doesn't know or do they know? Maybe they do know but know that pea shooter isn't going to do a thing to their tank so they act like they don't see you....LMFAO they don't see me 💥BOOM💥 oh yes they do. Sure you can camo in the Urban Terrain by using the TOG and the camo that is all Bricks so it looks like a Bricks wall, I did think that camo was pretty cheeky.

''is it possible to camo..'' man i cant spot them even without the camo lol

i like this tank just because of its history and typing on a computer that dose not want to exist is difficult

i have had foliage restrict vision in binocular

You ranged a tank that was in a cap. Which tells you how far away it is. Lol.

The L3 isn't a tank it's a self-propelled foxhole

Can you try the permanent death on the German tech tree

The L3 is about the size of a mini car/smart car

I remember killing a tiger 2 with tons of palm tree leafs sniping in a european map 😂😂😂.

The ironic thing about the L3 is that it actually isn’t that small. It is about a head shorter than me, and I’m 185cm tall

im still trying to get over the fact that he said ' vegitated desert' instead of savannah

18:06 yes cuz there is thing thing called exhaust

Imagine not having the 6 bush bundle

how much premiums do you have? also in what nation you have the most of them

Can you explain me why do tanks have smooth bore? They used to be rifled before as far as I know.

As a noob player that only has 2 years of on and off playing the game experience. Bushes always cuase me to not see othwr tanks. I look for movement when I scan around. But yeah bushes make tanks very hard to see when there at medium range plus. I deal with so many players that have full jungles on there tank. I play up to 6.7 tops

MY FAVORITE TANK IS THE LEPARD 2 AND THE M1 ABRAMS

I miss the days b4 thermal sights .it makes it alot easier for noobs to see enemies

I hate the L3. Whenever I use it people just want to run or flip me over.

I killed a plane in my SU-152 when he was flying by (it was F4U)

What army did you serve in?

So since you are former tc, do aphe really exist? If it exist is the effect is similar like in war thunder?

i find the game likes to give desert camo in mountain maps