Tarn Adams x Chris Simpson Interview (Dwarf Fortress Meets Project Zomboid)

Tarn Adams x Chris Simpson Interview (Dwarf Fortress Meets Project Zomboid) - Full Chat

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Tarn Adams x Chris Simpson Interview (Dwarf Fortress Meets Project Zomboid) - Full Interview - (Lemmy and Toady One)
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0:00 Intro
2:48 How do you avoid burnout on a decades-long project?
9:20 When will you feel done with your games?
17:08 Goofy Questions
20:06 What design decisions inspire you from each others' games?
23:55 How will you add personal Customization to characters?
26:47 Niche Appeal
27:49 How has community management changed over the years?
31:07 Did you expect to develop a cult following?
38:00 How do you respond to community feedback?
38:55 Origins of PZ/DF
47:35 What were you risking by going indie?
52:00 Goofy Questions
54:39 What was the most surprising KZfaq challenge you saw on your game?
1:03:30 Dwarf Fortress Adventure Mode Details
1:07:03 Goofy Questions
1:08:55 More Details about Dwarf Fortress Adventure Mode
1:13:55 What makes open-world story-generator games fun?
1:19:15 Outro

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@kadnhart6661 Ай бұрын

Today, on a very special episode of A Dog Between Frogs:

@TheCryptid Ай бұрын

Starring Zach Galifianakis

@bigfishoutofwater3135 Ай бұрын

Bud Weis Woof

@gangsterHOTLINE Ай бұрын

@@TheCryptid do you find yourself ever visiting .com, .net or .org? Or do you just mostly stick to .gov?

@werewolfdragon4740 Ай бұрын

This is the most ambitious crossover of all time

@dangerousflyer4485 Ай бұрын

Or the most ambiguous...

@jayro6397 Ай бұрын

Ambitious Amphibian.

@Necrospire Ай бұрын

Watching these two developers talk so deeply about their games is really inspiring. They grew up to love their games and it really shows!

@sanctus864 Ай бұрын

Possibly the two most important games of my childhood and early adult years.

@aetherwizard3218 Ай бұрын

wow that's honestly pretty sad..

@unprolifictoad6899 Ай бұрын

@@aetherwizard3218why? Its just the "most important games", not the "most important things". The dude just like these games a lot.

@schmecklin377 Ай бұрын

@@aetherwizard3218 it really isnt

@stormy4436 Ай бұрын

Me too... me too

@aetherwizard3218 Ай бұрын

@@schmecklin377 oh yeah.. it is.

@VernTheSatyr Ай бұрын

Someone add this vod to a time capsule

@YTDeletes90PercentOfMyComments Ай бұрын

aka download and repost everywhere

@TrueWolves Ай бұрын

Some of the few DF challenges I've heard of include having no migrations ever, only your starting 7 dwarves and any children they have. Sealing off the above ground before the end of the first year and never interacting with the outside world. And the "1 tile" fortresses are sort of a challenge. I recall seeing a challenge where all migrating dwarves were "on vacation" and trying to run the perfect resort with a small "staff" where the vacationers were not allowed to work. Etc.

@TrueWolves Ай бұрын

And speaking of the Minecraft analogy: Minecraft was inspired specifically by Dwarf Fortress and Infiniminer.

@nerdlingeeksly5192 Ай бұрын

The Cheetos versus farts question is a testament to human ingenuity, we will always find ways to circumvent, negate, or turn negative attributes into positives.

@milesrost6674 Ай бұрын

How far you've come my friend. Thanks for the years of greatness!

@MrBentmonkey Ай бұрын

2 games a product of immense dedication and passion, with a very long and robust development cycle. Glad to have played em in the past and hope to see more from them in the future.

@Cowbell_Hero Ай бұрын

Such a respectful interview, you let them finish what they had to say and no one interrupted. Thanks!

@ledumpsterfire6474 Ай бұрын

I've definitely noticed what Chris was kinda talking about in terms of games sort of choosing their audience rather than the other way around. Games with serious complexity, and especially those with intellectual challenge, just seem to attract nicer people in general.

@quillclock Ай бұрын

WOW I haven't even watched this yet but the fact you have these 2 in the same call is fantastic!

@naturalbornpatriot6369 Ай бұрын

This was fascinating. Hard to say why. Thanks for taking the time and effort in getting this put together as far as contacting them and arranging it all.

@doomcake2020 Ай бұрын

Still floored that you've gotten to do this - thank you!!!

@Scullex Ай бұрын

whenever i think DF and PZ together what comes to mind is CDDA

@Ryan-mr3zf Ай бұрын

based

@Pvtpob Ай бұрын

Yeah I’m addicted to PZ, but if they plan to make the most complex zombie simulation, all I can say is good luck lol

@andromidius Ай бұрын

Dwarf Fortress does have challenge playthroughs out there! Often its to do with the brutality of the starting conditions, but here's some examples: The single Dwarf challenge. Evil Biome starts. Embarking in a tower. Frozen ocean embarks. No equipment embarks. You can also challenge yourself as much as you like because its so customisable. Try surviving on a desert evil biome with maxed out Megabeasts, Vampires and Werewolves with no metal available? Go for it!

@kranziodelfantastico7433 Ай бұрын

Thank you both for collectively filling thousands of hours of my life with entertainment.

@mechashyguy Ай бұрын

This is such a great thing to wake up too. Life sucks sometimes but to live in a time with such great creators is not bad, not bad at all.

@Kdogdabomb Ай бұрын

This video is criminally short.. Thank you.

@Moewenfels Ай бұрын

I absolutely LOVE this content! Would love to see more of it :)

@zonty2362 Ай бұрын

This was an amazing interview/meeting. Would love to see more content like this! Especially one on one with these fine gentlemen.

@SomeKindofWizard Ай бұрын

This was supremely intersting! I'm a game dev myself, different style though; text rpg. I wondered how much I'd relate to them. "No dev in the world likes doing UI." Perhaps we're not so different, you and I...

@onlyjericho Ай бұрын

Two people who changed my life for the better

@ThorsThammer Ай бұрын

This is like the most niche crossover and I love it!

@hHardrada Ай бұрын

This was wonderful. Thank you for this.

@potatoesstarch2376 Ай бұрын

EYO. I love hearing Tarn talk about DF. never heard Chris speak before.

@TheCryptid Ай бұрын

H o l y, my man the anticipation for this video. Both of these games are so iconic. Incredible opportunity to get some insight into the minds of legends of the industry. Piece of history right here.

@BlazingCyclone1337 Ай бұрын

I remember when zomboid first came out and all the big KZfaqrs at the time were playing it when i was in high school and it excites me to no end that it resurged time and time again over the years and it's come so far

@ganondorfdragmire2818 Ай бұрын

Next time call Chris Hunt too and you will have the holy triad. Anyway super fun and informative

@davoje3215 Ай бұрын

This is amazing! Been playing these games for years and the crossover made me cream my pants wtf

@jimpeppercorn6244 Ай бұрын

was not expecting this, holy carp

@MDT_Hazu Ай бұрын

This interview is crazy

@Torriotorres Ай бұрын

I took a week off building my DF, to play some new games. Today, I got DF started and it was cool to see my fort with a fresh outlook.

@Jerown Ай бұрын

Tarn is a fucking legend. Love DF so much

@dangerousflyer4485 Ай бұрын

Eyyy yes I've been waitin for this thank you Mr. AA🙏🙏

@nerdlingeeksly5192 Ай бұрын

When they were talking about the relationship between the developer and community where sometimes the developers are right and sometimes the communities are right sounds a lot like parenting

@RMadaraPlay Ай бұрын

This man just discovered basic human relations congrats!

@th35leeper56 Ай бұрын

about dwarffortress challenge; no need, simply playing the game is challenging enough. maps with a strong aquifer, evil maps, frozen maps, rebuild a dead civilization, near a necromancer tower... basically any play through where you don't seek out the perfect fort location.

@tullman3craggs102 Ай бұрын

Dog between frogs! What a bloody good idea! I love these guys!

@Lexyvil Ай бұрын

Two of my favourite open-ended modern PC games!

@TheJmog Ай бұрын

"It's supposed to be the Balrog ending to your fortress and the players turn it into a petting zoo". And this is why we love Dwarf Fortress

@homerodysseus4203 Ай бұрын

Chris sounds super congested, hopefully he's alright but maybe my ears are just wrecked. What an awesome collaboration between two of the most indepth indie game developers and the great philosopher Ambi.

@StaP876 Ай бұрын

I hope that this level of awesomeness didn't open a black hole somewhere due to the gravity of these indie leads.

@jacobsage1711 Ай бұрын

Dang, you really only included this on the vod channel?

@samwarne6909 Ай бұрын

vod is for long form so yeah

@YumLemmingKebabs Ай бұрын

Holy shit AA! How did I miss this?! The creator of one of the few zombie games I actually like and the creator of my favorite indie game period? I love that the first thing Tarn says during this is "Hehehe"

@Nevloz Ай бұрын

That first question was so long Jesus Christ

@millis9231 Ай бұрын

1 hour and less than a thousand views WHERE IS EVERYONE THIS IS AMAZING

@ashleechristie8678 Ай бұрын

Agreed!!!

@DudokX Ай бұрын

Now we just need Alex from Starsector

@cadaba9849 Ай бұрын

You both made great games can’t wait to see more

@loang0 Ай бұрын

This was awesome!

@jimmy5322hk Ай бұрын

Funny how they still need to introduce their games.

@gangsterHOTLINE Ай бұрын

I wish I had a cigarette that would last an hour and a half. Just so that nodding in agreement felt more conversational.

@159Revan Ай бұрын

Im hoping the next major build for zomboid comes out real soon.

@tofu1608 Ай бұрын

LOL you'll be waiting a few more years. I have scarcely seen such a slow development cycle.

@calogix Ай бұрын

@@tofu1608deal with it, we game devs won’t slave away for you under crunch

@tofu1608 Ай бұрын

@@calogix I don't really play anymore so I'm not asking for them to. This is the same response everyone makes when I say the Dev cycle is too slow.

@calogix Ай бұрын

@@tofu1608 I’m sure you’re aware that gamers are near impossible to please, can’t you just accept the game is in early access and the devs want to work at their own pace?

@tofu1608 Ай бұрын

@@calogix literally accepted that. I do accept that fact. I said it is the truth. I don't know what the hell you're saying. Yes they're developing at a pace that works for them. I find it dreadfully slow, so I don't play the game. How hard is that?

@FatherGoz Ай бұрын

AA's Podcast arc?

@peterj4741 Ай бұрын

Wow, 2 contemporary pillars of gaming

@Kiloku2 Ай бұрын

I'm a game dev who likes programming UI!

@kreegaming7543 Ай бұрын

I loved this thank you

@ironarcana970 Ай бұрын

surprised he didn't emphasize mead with the honey, seeing as dwarves love booze

@egidiogaudi1899 Ай бұрын

two frog and a puppy

@erikreppen9257 Ай бұрын

I'm only 10% though but it occurs me that these games could end up becoming like "generation games." Where they just never stop being developed. People keep just building on system after system and they just got more rich and deep.

@cocoamuggins7155 Ай бұрын

I’m desperate to see more content like this from AA

@real_entless1301 Ай бұрын

1 dog 2 pogs

@21506ash Ай бұрын

both of these games i want to play but havet got around to it and this video is sharpsning that need

@Slibbo Ай бұрын

Today on Between two frogs:

@kendog3419 Ай бұрын

Pog frog

@yukitanaka6491 Ай бұрын

LETS FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@Arciks2024 Ай бұрын

I hate your videos so much that I can't stop loving em.

@Josh_da_Ghosh Ай бұрын

Aye nice vids m8

@brandonmoorat2263 Ай бұрын

Awesome.

@DiegoMartinez-zt8tg Ай бұрын

Finally!!

@Barnaclebeard Ай бұрын

I'm vegan, I already smell like farts all the time. But they're quite nice, as farts go.

@BillyPearson48 Ай бұрын

😮😮😮😮

@dankduck Ай бұрын

Bro HOW

@JasonX909 Ай бұрын

Frogs gotta stick together

@brodiem1994 Ай бұрын

Hot dog what a video

@pearlkisses_8520 Ай бұрын

Froge

@tomlaundry4021 Ай бұрын

🕶️🐹🔪

@gadblatz4841 Ай бұрын

NPCs are totally overrated.

@laurajoyzimmerman3900 Ай бұрын

2 minutes 20 views? Ambiguousamphibian really fell off 😔

@TheCryptid Ай бұрын

Slow burn baby, Slow burn

@Trollensky Ай бұрын

This is a vod channel lol

@tofu1608 Ай бұрын

The PZ dev aiming to be the most comprehensive zombie game is a little sad. PZ has a long way to go with an uphill climb to be the most comprehensive zombie game of all time. Didn't they just recently add hunting? Perhaps the most rudimentary survival aspect that took over a decade to add? It isn't really possible, either, to achieve that goal. Both DayZ and Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead have already completed that goal. PZ is so incomplete and slow to update while other games have completely released with more features and even update regularly. Even if they wanted to surpass those games, it would take another decade, and by then other games will have achieved that goal ten more times. Frustrating dev cycle. My wife and I occasionally boot PZ up to play and immediately realize how barebones it is and how you'd have to mod it to have survival aspects that make it. Cataclysm is set in about the same time period and already has all of those features PZ wants to add, but does it better.

@kilm2232 Ай бұрын

PZ is far short of where it could be, but it's leaps beyond what DayZ has to offer. The two aren't even comparable.

@tofu1608 Ай бұрын

@@kilm2232 absolutely delusional. You've probably never played DayZ then or you weren't very good at it. DayZ is insanely popular for a reason, and it's because the game has all the zombie survival features. PZ has very few and they're half baked.

@tofu1608 Ай бұрын

@@kilm2232 The two definitely aren't comparable. Because when I played PZ I was constantly trying mechanics and not understanding why they weren't working, only to find out that feature has been unfinished for 10 years. DayZ is a complete game with incredibly immersive gameplay and a massive player base. I've never tried to do something to be told it isn't in the game yet.

@Danila438 Ай бұрын

Cdda also have incomplete stuff, last time I played there wasn't indoors electricity mechanics, only vehicles could have electrical appliances

@tofu1608 Ай бұрын

@@Danila438 There are probably a zillion features not in CDDA. but this is implemented as of at least a couple years ago. CDDA has an update like, every day. They add stuff constantly. What I'm referring to are the absolute basics. What do you HAVE to include for a survival game. And taking 10 years or however long to add hunting is just a tad too long, imo.

@ThatZenoGuy Ай бұрын

Dwarf Fortress, a complex and increasingly complete game that actually shows some potential. Zomboid, a lazy cashgrab with lazy intolerant developers.

@manformerlypigbukkit Ай бұрын

Nah. If you’ve ever looked at Zomboid’s strange and esoteric codebase, you get the feeling it’s made out of passion instead of a want for money It has the same effect as Minecraft in that sense, where it looks simple in front but has so much shit going on under the hood that only Zomboid/Minecraft does in that way (1.12.2 GlStateManager my beloathed) To call it a cashgrab is just wrong, you don’t build a cashgrab on Java 15 with a weird modular script/lua combo system where almost anything can be modded and replaced. It’s such a fascinating (albeit frustrating to mod and apparently develop given the update cycles) way to make a game lol

@ThatZenoGuy Ай бұрын

@@manformerlypigbukkit That's a lot of words, shame I am not reading them. Zomboid has very intolerant developers and is an obvious cashgrab.

@manformerlypigbukkit Ай бұрын

@@ThatZenoGuy shame you’re conceited, I guess?

@ThatZenoGuy Ай бұрын

@@manformerlypigbukkit Try harder.

@aetherwizard3218 Ай бұрын

eww. gross. why would you talk to someone from the indi stone? that's the single worst dev team i've ever had the displeasure of buying a game from. I am extremely insulted that youtube would even recomend this GARBAGE to me. bad game made by bad people. that's all that needs to be said about zomboid.

@JasonX909 Ай бұрын

You ok bud?

@falloutbunker Ай бұрын

What's going on, bud? wanna talk? Seems like something's eating at you

@aetherwizard3218 Ай бұрын

@@JasonX909 I've just met the indi stone crew before and they were some the biggest jerks I've ever met in my life.

@aetherwizard3218 Ай бұрын

@@falloutbunker no thanks. just can't stand the indi stone as their people are just terrible. some of the worst human being I've ever met in my life.

@JasonX909 Ай бұрын

@@aetherwizard3218 Hey man we all have bad days, if you met me on one of mine you'd probably think the same about me lol