There was so much to watch here, I never got bored.

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Maybe some gameshark?

*u

He did lots of multitasking for catching and grinding :o

PopplioGaming lol

gg easy 😂😂😂

Kudos to the TASer for manipulating Metronome. That's got to be evil to work with.

+civlover97 I can imagine aye...

Pika250 this might seem like a dumb question, but wouldn't it be better for clefable to have minimum HP?

Caio Ribeiro taking damage with more hp takes more time than taking damage with less hp

Mkdasher said specifically that hp on Clefable was irrelevant. Even to the frame.

+Bounceyboy yeah it's easy but, I don't think an input display is very interesting for a pokemon TAS tbh. I don't know.

+mkdasher I think it'd be cool to show inputs, and maybe EV total, held item, money. You can shrink the comment box at the bottom for more space. btw why do the numbers glitch sometimes? Especially on Nugget Bridge.

@@renakunisaki oh, and all the dialogues should be displayed, and a crit counter, and all Pokémon that he encountered... I mean, cmon, this shit is so useless, why would you ever want to see it

this is the hp police, heal now or you're under arrest

I watch those videos to purposely fall asleep early

@@AwesomeHairo me too :)

Sometimes you can hit a max roll hit that would KO rather than getting a critical hit and losing a second. And animations were disabled for obvious reasons

I had to hit a max. damage range there, and it was barelly faster to manipulate it that way. Unfortunatelly RNG advances slowly until I get for the first time to a pokemon center (Cerulean), so some battles until that point can look a bit sloppy if RNG isn't favourable.

The game isn't actually perfectly random, if they reloaded the game and tried again exactly as before, there would be no change. Instead, other things are done to manipulate the pseudo-random number generator to achieve the desired result, whether that be delaying the input by a few frames, or performing inputs such as rearranging moves or quickly opening and closing the help menu.

This is likely played by a bot that is programmed to do specific inputs in a specific order. In order to program these bots, things such as savestates, additional software, that allows you to monitor the RNG etc. are used.

@@IschmarVI they aren’t bots. A human creates inputs and then the emulator plays all the inputs in the correct order

jeffreyzilla I believe those stats are read from the memory, so perhaps the glitch due to the game reading and loading them almost instantly. But hey, I'm no expert

It was TAS which is a glitch that makes him always crit but bugs out the game kind of

@@terryandjulie wtf, stop spreading misinfo.

woah found gladJonas

Maybe picking Leaf over Red was for RNG manipulation.

Chizz You need to pick it up because it's in your way. Notice at 49:44 that moonstone is blocking the path.

mkdasher Oh, you're right (well of course you re, it's your run after all) How did I miss that...

this also may be late, but he sertainly manipulated them

they never submit it

TAS is more interesting, imo. It's about the crazy strategies and techniques, rather than simply getting really good at doing the same exact thing repeatedly and having good luck.

Help menu is opened for luck manipulation purposes. When it's opened, the RNG works a bit different. Basically I open it when not opening it would take longer to manipulate what I want. At 2:25, I need a max damage range hit on Bulbasaur, and would have taken longer to hit if I didn't open the help menu. For more details you can check the submission page where it's explained more technically as well.

mkdasher Ah, I see. Thanks, and nice work.

My assumption is that speed runners have to do that to heal before e4 so depositing them is a time save over the animations at the end vs the TAS run not needing to heal so the animations at the end are faster than time it would take to deposit

I mean, he did only use a clefable to beat the elite four so he didn't have to go to the pc and waste time depositing the pokemon

yeah, quick claw.

Lol I completely forgot she was holding that. I thought it was because all opponent's Pokemon has 0 IV in everything

I don't know exactly how it works but it's about how much time you let the game run. The concept is called random number generating, that's how the game decide if you have a critical hit or not. So he moves left and right to be right on time to get a critical hit. It's the same way for metronome, it's all about timing, he needs to wait for a particular exact moment, and when he executes the attack metronome, the generator generates the attack that MKdasher wants to choose. So I guess since it's a TAS, MKdasher studied all the possibilities and he made the emulator pick the attack at the right time to get the right move/to get critical hits. I hope this helps you

ivabra Ok thought it would be something along those lines thanks :)

RNG abuse.

Benjamin cools this!

Save states.

basically, the RNG (random number generator, that "thing" that makes anything happen that is random) advances every frame but always starts from the same point when booting the system. So by plaing out every single button input throughout the entire run, you can completely control the RNG in the game and thus crit whenever you want. However, in order to actually *get*, say a critical, you have to allow the RNG to advance to a certain point until you actually use the move, which is, why there is so much help-menu flashing, move swapping and waiting. You find more information about this in the video description.

It’s always this speed

@@UnopenedClosure wow 😮

Gamefreak did a good job with Generation III :p

Nice camilla pic, did you try to touch her melons already?

Regular counter lag

I think it may be due to Pokemon data encryption. To make cheating harder, Gen3 games encrypt Pokemon data, and the stat sidebar assumes that Pokemon information is encrypted. Except the problem is that sometimes game decrypts Pokemon to do some processing on them and then re-encrypts them, and seeing decrypted Pokemon confuses stat sidebar (as it tries to decrypt already decrypted information).

It was on the way, he couldn't pass without catching it

I don't have special interest in shiny pokemon but yeah I can do it easily, specially on gen 4.

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mkdasher Why gen 4 specifically?

because in Gen4 you can manipulate the frames and the seed easily, in FR/LG it depends of your fast fingers at start screen

Gen IV has the cute charm glitch.

The help menu is brought up to help with RNG manipulation, so moves can hit/crit when needed

+blues03 Maybe the stats for the newly generated pokemon load for a split second, but he changes it back to his Pokemon's stats?

lolguy49 Hmm, I suppose that makes sense.

***** Ah, nice. Thanks for the clarification.

+️ ️ they don't seem to change though

He had to wait to pick up Squirtle in order to get good stats on it, so those waits didn’t actually cost any time.

can't tell 100% sure cause this was 9 years ago, but it seems like a movement mistake yeah.

It's used as a cipher in some postgame area.

this gym has invisible walls so that's the fastest path you can do to get to the gym leader.

mkdasher oh

doesn't save anything since I have to wait to get the good Squirtle anyway.

You'd have to turn around cause he would block your way

you would have to do very awkward movement for this so I don't know if it saves time. Also, remember that encounters aren't easily maniped in this game so maybe it simply wasn't possible.

emulators probably? or you just open everything up and go nuts

Gabriel S well I assumed with an emulator but I couldn't figure how to go frame by frame or make the movie in VBA

You should use BizHawk ... that's usually the emulator for TAS on GBA

***** I've dabbled in TASing on dolphin before but can't figure out vba

Look around the VBA's settings for the frame advance key, then press it to pause and advance the game by one frame.

+Trostpreis Just saw this comment, and since nobody has responded, better late than never I guess! In most older games, the calculation done to determine randomness is completely predictable (It still is, technically). When the game is advanced to the Press Start screen, the GBA's timer (which measures from bootup) is copied to memory address 0x02020000. Then, every time the game needs a random number, it calls this formula: Result = [(0x41C64E6D * Seed) + 0x6073] The last 32 bits of the Result are made into the seed, while the first 16 bits are used as the random number. This means that every time the game needs a random number (which is basically all the time as it decides NPC movement among other things) the formula is called again. In a TAS, you can slow down the game to a very slow amount, and have it advance one frame on the press of a button, then go backwards in time to correct any mistakes. What this means is that MKDasher can wait in certain places to allow the RNG to advance, meaning that he can get really good nature and IVs. Notice how he picks a specific name instead of mashing A? Mashing A would be faster if this wasn't a TAS, but he has to wait to get the IVs he wants, so might as well have fun with it, right? The IVs aren't not perfect, because getting perfect IVs would require more waiting than the amount of time it would save. He can also wait in battle to make his enemies to moves that are good for him. Most importantly, though it means he can get crits whenever he wants, just by waiting a certain amount of time. He uses this waiting technique to get perfect moves using Metronome later. You can read his full length explanation here: tasvideos.org/4143S.html Also, note that the formula used for Wild Pokemon is based on his steps in the area. This means that no matter how much waiting he does, he can't avoid wild encounters. Hope I helped (even if it's a little late)!

Wow thank's a lot for the response! Really cleared up all my questions.

rng manipulation

+Ɗσggσ (jews) wut

Hansa DH​ every frame, the game randomly decides whether or not a hit will be critical, alongside calculating damage rolls, who wins a speed tie, what move metronome will roll, etcetera. these randomly decided acions are known as RNG. in a TAS, the creator goes through every frame until they get a certain set of RNG elements that will make the game go by faster, mainly critical hits.

Rng manipulation/Abuse, Rng short for Random Number Generator checks on every frame and one in many frames there is a chance to hit, miss or crit.

because it has some excellent qualities specifically for a TAS run. - it is available early and has a very early power spike with the instant evolution (good earlygame) - it has STAB on normal type moves and can learn both mega kick and mega punch. This is good because normal type moves are normally effective against most enemies and you want' that because super/not very effective moves prompt an extra text box which wastes time. So having strong normal type moves is desirable. And with the ability to get criticals and high rolls as well as to basically ignore accuracy, clefables 70 base attack is actually not that bad anymore. - it has a relatively short cry which also saves time compared to, say, nidoking, which has a longer cry. - metronome heaven

I assume not learning level-up moves helps as well.

I would assume it's because its name won't show up enough to make it worth extra time to nickname it.

Late but whatever. Yes, that's the reason. While naming a pokemon one letter saves time whenever the name shows up, naming it in the first place also costs a considerable amount of time. So in order for this to actually be worth it, the pokemon needs a substantial amount of screen time.

Espeonkilledyou well yeah, I was refering to a fast method to avoid wild encounters without having to repel. Obviously what you said wouldn't make sense on this run since what I want is to complete the game fast.

Angel Mendoza www.smogon.com/ingame/misc/evs_ivs Here ya go, have a fun read.

That’s Gen 1 and Let’s Go. Moltres is not in Victory Road in FRLG. He’s on the first island.

Hahaha gotta love Game Freak

The Yin Of Yangs They really screwed pirates over when Sun and Moon got leaked also

S'mOreo How?

The Yin Of Yangs Pokemon Moon got leaked early and people with modded 3DS' could pirate the game. People who attempted to go online got PERMANENTLY banned from any form of online on that 3DS (even the eShop). Also, people who used PKHex (a program that can get people any Pokemon they want) experienced a save glitch, only to the people who used it.

S'mOreo Damn

because leaf is hot Kappa

also, in ruby/sapphire/emerald, the male rival doesn't talk as much as the female rival >sexism

Yuri not that. Speedrunners care less about their quotes, much less their sprites. I think it's about something else.

I comment at comment sections saying they talk less would imply that they spend less time cycling through text, therefore making the run slightly faster

in FRLG, boy vs. girl doesn't matter in a regular speedrun so it's considered preference there. However, there might be some very specific stuff (maybe saving a single frame or RNG-manip related stuff) going on in a TAS so I can't say for sure.

'Critical hits are determined just after the “X used Y!” message, and right after, damage percentage is determined (from 85% to 100%). There’s a chance of 1/16 to get a critical hit, 1/16 to get a max damage hit, and 1/256 to get a critical max damage hit, which is necessary sometimes on this run. (And obviously quite hard to luck manipulate).' -tasvideos.org/4143S.html

That's a part of Tas.

I mean max elixir?