[TAS] Will You Snail? in

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Meister Möhrchen

Meister Möhrchen

Жыл бұрын

| General Information |
This is a TAS (Tool Assisted Speedrun) and not a run achieved by a player. This shows us what the theoretical absolute limits of the game are by using a tool that allows us to program the inputs frame by frame, as well as control any random factors using a one-time RNG seed setting at the beginning of the run. In addition, any irregularities that may occur due to different frame rates are removed. This can result in strange gameplay behavior in some places. Overall, however, this represents a fairly accurate real run.
| Project creator |
The tool as well as the inputs were created by Enmy & Möhrchen. So for further questions you should contact them :D (on Discord: meister_moehrchen / enmysune)
| Will You Snail? |
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@trollsansofficial
@trollsansofficial 23 күн бұрын
Me when gaming pain is removed
@sigmacist
@sigmacist Жыл бұрын
the way Helpy was defeated reminds me of how in Pizza Tower one of the bosses starts the fight with short vulnerability so if you dash as quickly as you can you can damage him less than a second into the fight
@grenpuf
@grenpuf 11 ай бұрын
The Noise?
@sigmacist
@sigmacist 11 ай бұрын
@@grenpuf yes
@ItsaMeKenzie
@ItsaMeKenzie Жыл бұрын
This was one of the most satisfying things I’ve seen in a long time 😂
@gomango99
@gomango99 9 ай бұрын
Really impressive run! I wonder if there will ever be a TAS of the frustrated minigame
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen 9 ай бұрын
Ty! I cant predict the future; but most likely not. It isn‘t planned at least.
@trollsansofficial
@trollsansofficial 23 күн бұрын
​@@meistermoehrchen prob would include -satanic rituals- rng manipulation
@thebrainyone2366
@thebrainyone2366 Жыл бұрын
I feel that sub 13 will be humanly done in probably the next five years, impressive TAS, and wow squid 2 was absurdly optimized.
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but nope, with the current set of strats we have: You could get every chapter Chapter IL record (which would be absolutely insane, since it requires alr soo many precise inputs and such a good RNG) and you would still be over 20 seconds of a sub 13 away… The 3X barrier is pretty surely the last one we will see, but 2X is theoratically (that would require wayyyy too much) the absolute human limit If we somehow find a non major glitch strat that saves 30s, then we could theoratically achieve it…
@orangechef5390
@orangechef5390 Жыл бұрын
I think it'll happen eventually. Think about Super Mario Bros. They're almost at TAS level.
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen Жыл бұрын
@@orangechef5390 I think you got a clear point from me there. With the current set of strats: Definitely not doable
@WillYouSnail_Fan_Or_Something
@WillYouSnail_Fan_Or_Something Жыл бұрын
Bartender strat was OP
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen Жыл бұрын
we should definitely do that in human runs xD
@rgc-exists
@rgc-exists Жыл бұрын
holy heeeck that was impressive! I wonder if the Mr. Dance strat would be possible to do as a human if you changed the mouse scroll wheel so scrolling up jumped (and scrolling down would skip voicelines, which you already do.)
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen Жыл бұрын
okay so since we're already trying to optimize the consistency: With jumping on scrollwheel (yeah) + putting the mouse between a notebook and your keyboard (to stabilize the position of it) + Moving Right on Enter (to have a big key with which you do easier one frame inputs) + Pausing after the 2 frame perfects (to give your hand time to get on the mouse) it gets to a 1/40'ish strat You can find a vid on this channel where Ive gotten it twice in a row
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen Жыл бұрын
Its unlisted, here's the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLFonqVjkrmbcqc.html Enmy has gotten it actually in a chapter run once: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l6-KaaSZyNPNlHk.html
@instentproductions3180
@instentproductions3180 Жыл бұрын
i was gonna send you this but then i see this lmao
@rgc-exists
@rgc-exists Жыл бұрын
Nice
@x8c8r
@x8c8r Жыл бұрын
cant wait for runners to incorporate 50 frame perfects in the run after this one
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen Жыл бұрын
we will definitely don't do that xD
@x8c8r
@x8c8r Жыл бұрын
@@meistermoehrchen in a few years there probably will be at least ten frame perfects, if people are still gonna run the game
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen Жыл бұрын
@@x8c8r there are alr some, but most of this game isnt based on frame perfects
@escapistsmusicstuff
@escapistsmusicstuff Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool TAS! Was there any RNG manipulation involved?
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen Жыл бұрын
Ty! By jumping in different timings and setting a specific RNG seed in the beginning it gets manipulated
@escapistsmusicstuff
@escapistsmusicstuff Жыл бұрын
So only precisely when you jump (and no other movement) further manipulates it?
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen Жыл бұрын
No, thats just the most basic way of not loosing time and manipulating it. There are a lot of other possibilities which most of the time are slower than the original time. (Moving, Pausing, etc.)
@GGlitch.GGaming
@GGlitch.GGaming Жыл бұрын
is there viability for saving a few frames in D05 by waiting a block or 2 away from the door so that you have more velocity passing under the door?
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen Жыл бұрын
Thats generally a good idea, but since non water movement / non bubble movement doesn‘t have acceleration & deceleration that doesn’t work… This actually saves a frame since your pixel position gets manipulated one pixel further.
@Flarefan60
@Flarefan60 2 ай бұрын
Why do people skip the voice lines in this?
@raytie
@raytie Жыл бұрын
How did you tas it?
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen Жыл бұрын
by using a self made mod “that allows us to program the inputs frame by frame, as well as control any random factors using a one-time RNG seed setting at the beginning of the run. In addition, any irregularities that may occur due to different frame rates are removed. This can result in strange gameplay behavior in some places. Overall, however, this represents a fairly accurate real run.“ (Thats a quote from the description of this vid ;) )
@vynaius6479
@vynaius6479 Жыл бұрын
100% TAS when?
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen Жыл бұрын
tbh probably never (at least not in a small team); it just takes too much time. This one took alr almost 150h… If we would do the same for 100% it would take more than 1000h because its much longer and even more heavily dependent on RNG.
@asodiacayve6101
@asodiacayve6101 Жыл бұрын
Really Clean Lines, However This Should Be Possible As A Human, I Still Feel As A Sub 13 Is Possible, I Have Recently Got Back Into Speedrunning And This Is A Record I Have To Take Back.
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen Жыл бұрын
Okay, because way too many people are saying this, I will describe it now in detail: It is simply not doable... Since this game has a lot of RNG and way too many tiny mistake opportunities, its not even close to be possible. Enmy & my IL-sob is both round about 13:15 (in my case resulting out of 2600 runs) The Chapter sob stands at 13:24 which is what we theoratically consider as possible. However even a 13:2X would require Miracle Dance, a RNG which I got once in 30h in Chapter E and an insane run over everything else as well. Resulting in the last barrier which we will realistically see with the current set of strats is a 13:3X.
@asodiacayve6101
@asodiacayve6101 Жыл бұрын
@@meistermoehrchen Nahh Man, You Don't Understand The Logic, RNG Is One Thing But There Are More Small Glichess Being Discover Daily, Nothing That Wouldn't Be Allowed In The %Any NMG Run. Like The Basket Ball Glich Or D18 Skip, People Will Find Those Gliches And Get A Sub 13 Run.
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen Жыл бұрын
@@asodiacayve6101 Just to note: There were 2 new strats (which are saving combined 1s) in the last 6 months, so the chance of getting that amount of glitches (which don't fly out of nmg) isnt realistic at all
@asodiacayve6101
@asodiacayve6101 Жыл бұрын
Look, nothing huge but there was one thing y'all were missing. And its a game developer. Who know how to glich hunt. How to find and search every inch until he finds something... Bet you never seen this before ( Check Discord DMs ) so I think ive got a long way to go
@LigmaBalls69XD420
@LigmaBalls69XD420 4 ай бұрын
Where can i download the tasbot? I wanna make my own tas
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen 3 ай бұрын
Sorry for responding so late; the tool is kept private. However, if you give me your dc tag / name, I can give you the versions to which a few people have access.
@LigmaBalls69XD420
@LigmaBalls69XD420 3 ай бұрын
@@meistermoehrchen is it gonna go public sometime
@meistermoehrchen
@meistermoehrchen 3 ай бұрын
​@@LigmaBalls69XD420 most likely not, I am not in the mood / have time to make it polished enough to handle it to the public.
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