Doug, Thank you for the warm welcome. All my comments have been very complimentary and encouraging. While this is my first Taurus, I too collect and shoot many handguns. When I do carry the Taurus, as I mentioned in the video, I use 125 gr jacketed hollow points in 357. I am not sensitive to recoil and 125 gr shouldn't over penetrate. I can tell you are not sensitive to recoil either. The 454 Casull was a dead giveaway! It is still winter here in Wisconsin. I don't feel like shooting a video in the snow. Spring is coming soon. I am looking for suggestions for the next video. Any suggestions?

Thank you, Jesse. I love 357's, but mine and my wife's were all 6" barrels. I needed something handier. I had a 2" and it was too loud and a flame thrower, (powder burned outside the barrel), I sold it. Now that was a short barrel. The three inch has a better sight radius than I thought. The laser grips removed any issue. I don't think it to be too deceptive, but I did take the best of two strings. However, The Buffalo Bore was only one string. I didn't want to do that a second time. I am not that sensitive to recoil, but it was powerful. The recoil slammed the cylinder release latch into my thumb, hence the bandage on my thumb after that string. I thought I cleaned the revolver well. but I kept finding blood in the checkering on the latch. I even used the weave stance and grip, push slightly with your dominant hand and pull slightly with your off hand. This helps reduce muzzle jump. Thanks again Jesse, stay safe.

You will not be disappointed with the revolver! The Buffalo Bore 180 gr flat nose hard cast seems to be the proper medicine. This is from my research; I haven't used it on any game. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any on the shelves. I had to purchase directly from Buffalo Bore $$. If the coupon for the laser grip was in the box, I highly suggest you get it. Hard to pass up for the price. I like the third finger tactical activation.

Thank you Joe, I learned a lot. my next one should be better?

Thank you for the kind words. All of my comments have been very positive. FYI -

@@NotAllEngineersAreBoring Haven't looked for a holster yet. The one you have looks good. I've had my taurus for a week and haven't fired it yet, so I'm ready to go to the range!

Thank you for the support. Winter here in Wisconsin. Stay tuned for more come spring.

Thank you Dahlin. I was annoyed at some of the other reviews of this revolver. I almost didn't buy it because of the reviews. I was glad I made the purchase and the last portion of my review was dispelling the myths. My next video may be a modification of this same revolver. Similar to some other videos, but with my own special skill sets applied. Tom L. Post Script - I learned a lot making this. My next video will be better, I promise.

Nice video. I bought this about a month ago and have only put 115 rds through it..50 magnums..but I like it. A lot. Even at 25 yards I could easily keep all 5 shots on the torso of the target. Anything closer and it's hard to miss. I love the front sight and how easy it is to stage the trigger. It's my new back up to my K6s 😊

Bryan, you won't be disappointed. I bought my first and only, (so far), despite many negative reviews. Actually, I was surprised how inaccurate the reviews were. I was pleasantly surprised with its quality for < $400, (I got it wrong in my video, S/B < $400 not, < $300). The inaccurate reviews are what prompted me to do this video review. I am not affiliated with Taurus.

Bought mine today, the taurus felt alot better then the Smith in the same size and barrel length... don't sleep on the brand ive owned a 4" Taurus and it was my favorite revolver

Thank you, Mary. It's winter here in Wisconsin, so it may be a couple more months. I learned a lot on this first video, next one should be better. Any topics you're interested in?

You will be pleasantly surprised like I was! FYI - I misspoke in the video. I paid < $400, (not < $300), for the SS / tritium sight model and that was a year ago. I recall the black models were a little less money. But, with one year of Bidenomics, yours is a good price. My brother gave me a Vortex Venom he didn't need, (what a brother!). I don't need it either. I'm selling it and the proceeds will go to my brother. I'm asking a mere $125 + shipping. Check out the web site link. vortexoptics.com/vortex-venom-red-dot+reticle-3~MOA~Dot

Thank you, James Bond. I did take the best of two strings. However, the Buffalo Bore I only took one string. I didn't want to subject that to myself twice. I did play it down in the video, but it is a powerful load! On my grip of the gun, I push slightly with the dominant hand and pull slightly with the offhand. This helps with recoil and muzzle jump. The cylinder latch still bit my thumb, hence the bandage.

@@NotAllEngineersAreBoring Very nice thank you for sharing your technique I'll give it a try.

The credit goes to Jack Weaver. With help from Jeff Cooper. www.thearmorylife.com/ayoob-how-to-shoot-a-pistol-using-the-classic-weaver-stance/ @@Sandhill1988

Thank you, Gregory. Winter here in Wisconsin so it may be a few months before I create another. Any topic you are interested in for the next one?

I saw those other reviews too. But I wanted a trail gun for the Wisconsin north woods. So, for < $400 I figured how bad could it be? I purchased it anyways and was pleasantly surprised! This was my motivation for the video. Do you plan on buying a Taurus? I don't think I fibbed too much, but I did two strings and showed the best of the two. The exception was the Buffalo Bore, I didn't want to do that again! Any suggestions for a next video? It just snowed 4" here in Wisconsin but soon it will be spring. I didn't want to shoot a video in our winter.

@@NotAllEngineersAreBoring I am familiar with the forests of northern Wisconsin and recognize the value of a trail gun. A .357 should be adequate to the task. I sailed Superior out of Bayfield for many years and stumbled upon black bears on the Apostle Islands more than once. Never felt like I was in eminent peril, but I didn't waste any time back tracking out of those situations. Yes, I have been considering buying a Taurus 605 and have been a little conflicted about 2" or 3" barrels. You make a good argument for the 3" barrel, but the 2" barrel would be easier to pocket, and I don't plan on facing down a bear any time soon. I'm also looking at the 856 if you have one around to do a video about. As a pocket carry self-defense option .38S hollow points look like they would do the job. I pocket carry a P238 at the moment but have never been overly confident in its reliability or punch. The 856 is a little cheaper and is a six shooter so that is a plus. .38S should be a soft shooter and I'd likely carry the 605 with .38S anyhow so I am conflicted. Nice to have options. I saw that it has been snowing up that way. We have a daughter in Minnesota. We moved south just last year to get out of that crap. Seventy and sunny in South Carolina today.

If you are going to shoot 38's anyways, I agree, the 856 gives you one extra shot with the same cylinder diameter of the 5 shot 605. Just as easy to conceal with 1 more shot. 2" or 3" would depend on how you intend to carry. You mentioned "pocket", 3" doesn't pocket well. I carry a P938, my wife enjoys the P238. Both are very reliable, (I'm almost sure you mean stopping power). I understand carrying is not supposed to be "comfortable". It is to be "comforting". That P238 will be much more comfortable than the 856, and almost as comforting. The 380 isn't too far off from a 38. Check out the Liberty Ammunition 380 Civil Defense for that P238. My wife likes shooting it. She feels it is comforting.

@@NotAllEngineersAreBoring I carry Underwood 68GR. xtreme defender in the 238. Saw some great ballistics testing on it. I think Liberty makes something just like it. They look like a Phillips #2 screwdriver and don't expand. They penetrate though and make a significant wound cavity. The 238 is very easy/comfortable to carry in a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster. Comforting is a good way to put it as well. I don't need a wheel gun so much as I want another one. I suppose you know how that is. Traded my S&W 642 on something a few years ago in a fit of stupidity. The Taurus offerings seem to be solid affordable options when held side by side with the 642.

Thank you for the kind words. I learned a lot on this first video. My next one should be better.

Thank you for the words of encouragement Frank. I know you will be happy with it. FYI - I just notice an error in my video. My cost 10 months ago was just under $400, (not

It certainly is! I agree. Keep in mind the 605 can handle not only 357, (for the trail gun aspect), but 38+P too! I call that "versatility". I reload, and I make 38+P rounds in a 357 case. My wife really likes that round as well.

158 grain 38 +p lead semi wadcutter hollow points work well!!!!

Barry, Thank you for the heads up.

Thank you, it was also my first effort with "Win Movie Maker". Very intuitive for the video editing. What do you use?

I concur!

Thank you, Mike. I did this just for fun and to set the record straight for some negative channels about the 605. Like I said, I was pleasantly surprised at the value. I wanted a low-cost trail gun. I just came back from a wilderness camping and fishing trip in northern Wisconsin. There is a good population of Black Bears. I wore this revolver and was very comforted. Any suggestions on what I should do for my second video?

Thank you Tom. Any suggestions for my second video?

@@NotAllEngineersAreBoring If you have any more budget revolvers you can do some of those

This is my only "budget" revolver. I do have a cheap revolver a NAA 22 / 22 mag but those are KZfaqd to death. I appreciate the note. I need help! It's winter here in Wisconsin. Snow won't melt till April, so we have time to think about it. Any interest in a Sig Sauer P210 Target. Super sweet shooter. Hard to miss with the trigger and action.

@@NotAllEngineersAreBoring Yeah, if you're looking to get noticed on KZfaq I'd just make as many videos as you can with what arsenal that you have. A Sig not named p365 hasn't been done to death, and that's interesting -- but honestly, I'd do the videos which have been done to death as well. Good luck to ya!

Gracias mi amigo! @@flutebasket4294

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I try to respond quicker, but, you know….., the holidays. Concerning the 605, 3” as a carry option, at the risk of stating the obvious. I will list my Pro’s and Con’s of this revolver for CC. Pro’s 1) A 357 is the gold standard for a defensive handgun. I my opinion, non-better. 2) Five shot cylinder has a smaller diameter, (1.4”), than a six shot, Making concealment easier than a six shot. If you need more than 5 shots, you may have bitten off more than you should have. 3) Extremely reliable. Not like a semi-auto where you need to be certain rounds feed consistently, no limp wrists etc. 4) Easy for anyone to shoot. Most anyone knows how to fire a revolver. A child knows how to shoot this. However, you will keep this safe from little inquisitive hands. 5) Three inch barrel is by far a better choice than a 2”. So much better performance. A 2” blasts too much, ear damaging noise, and velocity suffers too. Con’s 1) I had a very hard time finding a holster. Let me know what you find. I don't know, are we suppose to put the 3" in a snub nose holster? 2) Much wider width than a semi auto. Less comfort and concealability. The 605 will be very comforting, (not necessarily comfortable). 3) Much longer to reload than a semi auto with a magazine. For the 605 I have both a speed loader and a speed strip for extra rounds. Let me know what you end up with or any other question.

I mis-spoke in the video. S/B < $400, pretax and background check. That was a year ago. So, with a year of Bidenomics, you got a fair price. I'm certain you will enjoy. Let me know what holster you find.

Lo siento mucho! Typo in my video, cost S/B < $400, not $300. So your cost is about right. The < $400 was a year ago. Enjoy! For the price, consider the laser if they still have a discounted cost.

@NotAllEngineersAreBoring yeah they had the laser version, my big hands blocked it so I opted out for a standard one with Pachmeier grips... still awesome nonetheless

Bruce, I concur. The only reason I didn't, (yet?), is I wanted a low-cost trail gun. Didn't want to spend approximately half the cost of the revolver on a trigger / action job. Did you have this work done? Are you happy with it? Do you know the trigger weight after? No creep? Any light primer strikes? Cost and who did it?

I had a Ruger Security 6 with a 2" barrel too. Wow, the flame and report was awsome. You sure needed ear protection. With 5 round capacity the cylinder diameter is reasonable to conceal. So far, I like the 10 o'clock cross draw position for a holster. Works when I'm seated in a car too.

Did you get it yet? Let me know how you like it.

@@NotAllEngineersAreBoring I purchased the 3” barrel around Christmas. I have not been able to get to the range yet. It looks and feels good. The cylinder and trigger have a good rotation and action. I may need to change the grips. They feel a little small but I won’t do anything until putting a box or two of 38’s through it.

Was there a coupon for the laser grips in the box? The laser grips are slightly larger than the stock grips. The cost for the laser grips was fantastic, hard to say "NO". I wanted a low-cost trail gun, but the red laser cost was too good to pass up. well worth the extra bill. Note - I like the visibility / brightness of the green laser, but they do have a drawback beside cost. They stop functioning in Wisconsin cold winters. Red handles the cold better.

I have two 10-22's. While I found the out of box trigger pull acceptable for a plinker / small game rifle, I made a tack driver out of one of them. So many options and aftermarket parts to make the 10-22 anything you want! With match 22 ammo I can hit paint balls on golf tee's all day long at 100 yards. Just needed an investment of a bull barrel and trigger group, (2# 2 oz pull crisp, no creep), oh and a scope. I whittled the original wood stock to fit the bull barrel. The other looks like a Thompson sub machine gun complete with drum magazine and is a fine plinker. Unfortunate it did not meet your expectations :(

Thank you for your compliment. Do you own one or thinking of getting one? Just curious.

Me too. Taurus sells holsters, but I didn't see one for the laser grip. I have the Veridian laser grip they sold. Let me know if you find one.

Thank you Dan.

@@NotAllEngineersAreBoring welcome 👍🏻

Thank you for the words of encouragement. I learned a lot doing this first video. Being winter here in Wisconsin, my next one will have to wait until spring. I know a guy in Fon Du Lac, WI, Tom's Military Arms and Guns. He charges Cost plus $20 for pistols. So now you know how much profit your seller is making. I purchased it May 2023, so price shouldn't have gone up much. We only have Black bear here in WI. There are practically no black bear attacks here. Having this sure make me feel at ease cleaning fish at the campsite. Heavy, 180gr, Hard Cast, Flat point, should do the job. Note - I haven't shot a bear with it. My research and hunting experience suggests this would be just the medicine needed for Black Bear. It will definitely penetrate the skull or reach vital organs. As far as Montana goes, you couldn't have too much gun. I would still bring Bear Spray. 357 with this load may be about minimum. I would feel better with a 44 Mag, and a 4" barrel. I would feel even better with a rifle, even a lever action 44 Mag. Walk loud, carry a Wisconsin cow bell when you hike. Let em know you're coming. Stay safe. Let me know what you decide.

@NotAllEngineersAreBoring Thank you! We were in Montana and Wyoming last July. I carried Bear Spray wherever I went. We never saw any bears, but a woman was killed by a brown Bear on a trail not too far from where we were. Thanks!!

My BAD! I just noticed, in the video I said' "less than $300". Opps should be less than $400.

Thank You for the kind words, John. I am blessed with all the comments being very favorable. Not a single negative remark. For @ $ 400 it is well worth it. (Note - error in the video, I said less than $300, should be less than $ 400 and that was a year ago. I'm certain Bidenomics raised the cost). I figured for $400 I'll get it, no big deal if it sucks. I am pleasantly surprised with the purchase. I guess you can't believe all the KZfaqrs. I got to use it last month for a two-week wilderness camping and fishing trip in northern Wisconsin. A healthy black bear and wolf population. I didn't need to use it for defense, but it was comforting to have. It was also fun to plink with, maybe that scared off the critters. I plinked with 125 gr hollow points. The 180 gr Buffalo Bore is expensive and not fun to shoot. I am not sensitive to recoil at all. But I did downplay the recoil, it caught me off guard. It was nasty! This is my first and only video, (to date). I enjoyed doing it. I also enjoy replying to these comments. I'm retired. Any suggestions for my second video? Really, I need ideas. I have been shooting for over 50 years. Mostly plinking, then Trap, Sporting clays, Duck, goose, grouse, big game, Masters class in unlimited IPSSC, pen pal with Col Jeff, (Dean), Cooper prior to email, (used snail mail), I share my affection of the 1911 with Jeff Cooper, I have three of em. There was a coupon in the box for the red laser grip. For @ $100, it is well worth it. I loved the original grips, they fit my hand perfectly. The laser grips are almost as good, a little larger that some prefer. I prefer the visibility of the green laser, (3x the $). However, green is more sensitive to cold weather. It may not function in cold climates like Wisconsin. Red is more forgiving. After all it's a low-cost trail gun, (seconds as a self-defense gun). Having the laser on the grip is not a concern. It does not interfere with my draw, my finger does not block the laser, I am pleased. The offset is not appreciable for a revolver like this. Still accurate enough. Really, Give me your thoughts for a second video.

​@NotAllEngineersAreBoring Hi Tom I still have my two Originals I bought when I was 21 over 40 years ago S&W 27 6-in and an S&W 39 and would like to give the 27 a break because of old age that's why I was looking to add new 357. Back in the day, I had a few matches at Camp Perry rifle match using 220 swift. Don't ask how I did. 😆 For myself I like the type of Mythbusters format showing one point of view to the next like in your first video. Patience, it will come to you. Good Luck.

@@johnmigliore79 You will enjoy the Laser.

Check the location of the main spring and where it engages the hammer. My Wollf kit had to many light primer strikes. I only left the Wollf trigger return spring in the revolver. I removed the Wollf main spring.

@@NotAllEngineersAreBoring That work better for your's?

The Wollf main spring caused light primer strikes. Put the original back in and no more light strikes. The trigger return spring had no ill effects. Minimal benefit but I already bought it so I left it in. Your hammer issue could be improper placement of the upper part of the main spring arm??

@@NotAllEngineersAreBoring Thank you, I will have this look @ from a gun Smith.

I will definitely consider that. I've never made gel. I usually shoot milk jugs. Plastic milk jugs OK? or do you want to see ballistic gel?

@@NotAllEngineersAreBoring I just wanna see the velocities of various .357 rounds coming out of the 3" barrel, if that's OK with you.

Ok, I do have a chronograph. Stay tuned. Hopefully you don’t need to see the Buffalo Bore 180 gr. Hard cast. I may have down played it. I am still cleaning blood out of the cylinder latch. It bit me bad under recoil. I didn’t mind the recoil. But the latch to the thumb was bad. I may de-horn the latch lever if I plan to shoot more of these. 😅

@@user-px3un8wt8f No problem, take your time.

The one I got is no longer on the market, and I had to cut down the strap and move the buckle. I did ask Taurus USA they sent me this link..... shoptaurus.com/holsters/?_bc_fsnf=1&brand=15

OOOps, I purchased it for less than $400, (@ a year ago). My appologies. I'll see if I can edit it.

I'm sure you will enjoy Mr. James Bond.

I never even thought about lefties. Please post if you find one!

Never looked. I'm not sure you can have a moon clip in 357? I did get speed strips and a speed loader. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B4GRD5V1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000C1CLL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I reload, so most of my shooting is reloaded. I also have a 357 lever action to fire in both I use 158 JHP, 13.1 Grain 2400, or 140 FMJ, 13.5 Grain 2400, or 125 FMJ, 15.3 Grain 2400. For target and my wife's favorite I load 148 Plated Hollow Base WC, 4.3 Grain HP38. I don't like to use reloads for self-defense, I mainly use just about any 125 gr jacketed hollow point. For trail carry, I use that buffalo bore 180 gr flat nose. It is a very heavy recoil though! I don't shoot 38's as I can reload light 357's.

@NotAllEngineersAreBoring Thank you for responding. For a 2 inch and 3inch 357MAG, you could go with a low recoil or lower energy 357MAG or even a low energy cowboy load 357MAG. What do you think. I would go heavier than 110grs.

If for self-defense go for a full load. You need to stop the threat quickly. If you're sensitive to recoil or target shooting, tame it down. I always push slightly with my dominant hand and pull slightly with my off hand. This helps minimize muzzle jump and gets your sights back on target.

Yes, always trade-offs. Larger cylinder diameter could turn off some purchasers. Less capacity does also. I only have black bear here in Wisconsin. Five will be sufficient.

No worries, John. Any suggestions for another video?

Call me old fashion. I was pen pals with Lt. Col. Jeff Cooper, (pre-internet, we used snail mail). Then I met Jeff at Gunsite when he taught there. The original definitions were, double action meant two types of actions, 1) finger cock and 2) thumb cock. If you could only use the thumb cock that was a single action. If you could only use the finger cock, that was single action too. This could be misinterpreted so "finger cock only" was used. "Double action only" was non-sensical. These were Jeff Cooper's definition also. I understand over the years it no longer has that meaning. I doubt Jeff Cooper would have accepted it, But I accept it. However, I still use Finger or Thumb cock. I keep true to the original definition, and everyone knows what I am talking about.

Thank you! What did you like? What was not so much? Looking to improve my next attempt.

Lo siento mucho! Typo, S/B under $400 a year ago. So "No", you're not getting ripped off.

@@NotAllEngineersAreBoringI didn't say anything about getting ripped off.

I just meant you won't find it for < $300.

Call me old fashion. I was pen pals with Col. Jeff Cooper, (pre-internet, we used snail mail). Then I met Jeff at Gunsite when he taught there. The original definitions were, double action meant two types of actions, 1) finger cock and 2) thumb cock. If you could only use the thumb cock that was a single action. If you could only use the finger cock, that was single action too. This could be misinterpreted so "finger cock only" was used. "Double action only" was non-sensical. These were Jeff Cooper's definition also. I understand over the years it no longer has that meaning. I doubt Jeff Cooper would have accepted it, But I accept it. However, I still use Finger or Thumb cock. I keep true to the original definition, and everyone knows what I am talking about. Glad to hear customer service is OK. I didn't have to use it. What Taurus do you have and why did you need customer service?

He sure did say "TRITIUM VIAL". Not bad for a budget revolver. Tritium or hydrogen-3 gas has a half-life of 12.5 years. Being a gas is why a glass vial is used to contain the tritium. I have some sights that are @30 years old, and they sure don't seem to be half or 1/4 as bright. Seem near as bright as newer sights. Note - He usually doesn't talk in third person. 🤣

Like I said, it was "stout". But I'm not that sensitive to recoil. I use the Weaver stance and push slightly with my dominant hand and pull slightly with my off hand. Really helps with the muzzle jump and felt recoil.

BTW - The cylinder latch did bite my thumb from the recoil of the Buffalo Bore 180 gr. maybe around the third shot. I sucked it up and continued the volley. I didn't want to re-film it.

This is my only Taurus. I didn't have to have it serviced, (yet?). Thanks for the heads up. Why, what did they do to you?

@NotAllEngineersAreBoring screw in butt stock stuck out the other side about a quarter inch, had to beg to get something done. Two weeks later they aren't email saying package on its way, I said package for what, finally after days told me they sent screws, took three weeks.

​@@WoodysbackOh, so you're just impatient and think you're their only customer. You're crying about 3 weeks? Pathetic, trade in your guns and get your nails done and change your name to KAREN.