Taylor & Co Cartridge Conversion Cylinder for Pietta's 1851 1861 Navy Revolvers

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duelist1954

duelist1954

3 жыл бұрын

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@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year to everyone out there. 2020 was a challenging year on many fronts. I hope 2021is better. Thank you all for your support this past year. This may not be the biggest gun channel on KZfaq, but it is blessed with the best viewers. I enjoy reading your comments each week, and I look forward to hearing from you all in the coming year.
@DenverLoveless
@DenverLoveless 3 жыл бұрын
Keep on keeping on Mike!
@Securitydad209
@Securitydad209 2 жыл бұрын
Just got into black powder it’s truly a hobby I enjoy next to archery love your videos!
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 2 жыл бұрын
@@Securitydad209 Thanks!
@thecelticprince4949
@thecelticprince4949 3 жыл бұрын
All the best for New Year Mike and family. And to everyone else out there watching.
@guyfox1206
@guyfox1206 3 жыл бұрын
Happy new year, Robert
@lisar3006
@lisar3006 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty good shooting for standing out in freezing weather off hand and I admire your dedication to the channel.
@EBthere
@EBthere 3 жыл бұрын
No need for any apologies at all Mike. You're out there in the cold with dangerous footing and we're in our warm house enjoying the video. Thank you!
@kevinkenyon4593
@kevinkenyon4593 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, thank you for braving the elements for our benefit. Have a safe and Happy New Year to you and your family.
@cmonsterz
@cmonsterz 3 жыл бұрын
Good job, Mike! I appreciate you risking limbs to get us another entertaining video!
@karsonbranham3900
@karsonbranham3900 3 жыл бұрын
Happy new year! You gave it a good go, and the shooting looks good! Thanks for “braving the conditions” for us Mike!!
@TheTraakon
@TheTraakon 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video MB. All the best to you and yours in the New Year.
@marctric
@marctric 3 жыл бұрын
What else could I say unless a big THANK YOU. You bring us so many technical information and put it all together in practice, and all this fighting the weather conditions... THANK YOU. I must say sometimes I feel a bit envy of the snow this time of the year, but seen that scenes I think I could be OK with it for few weeks tops. My votes for a happy and healthy 2021 to you, your family and all the followers from Brazil !!!
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marcus. I feel the same way you do about the snow...LOL
@notsosilentmajority1
@notsosilentmajority1 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, thanks for getting out there in the slippery, cold conditions. Always enjoy a new BP video. Happy New Year.
@joemorganeatmyshortschannel
@joemorganeatmyshortschannel 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for showing us this i really learned alot and i think these conversions why in my area there are none of these around now it makes sense great video
@mrdreaded8865
@mrdreaded8865 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike ! Happy New Year !
@charlescalvert8647
@charlescalvert8647 3 жыл бұрын
Happy new year Mike! I'm not far away in MD, I got 8" snow and 2" ice, power was out for a day. Anyway, happy to see a video with these guns and cylinders. I have a conversion on my 51, 61 Navy and a Uberti Navy Remington. Stay well!
@charliesierra6919
@charliesierra6919 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Mike! Love these conversions! Have the .44, Kirst with gate, and some Howells, and .31 Howell, next is the .36 conversion. And as usual, great hat!
@mr.zafner8295
@mr.zafner8295 2 жыл бұрын
This was actually a fun video. It's good to see when stuff doesn't quite work out. Still works on camera. Thanks for posting it
@raymondemigii4086
@raymondemigii4086 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike Happy New year to you and your family
@michael.w.salter
@michael.w.salter 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Mike, and to all fellow shooters. Don't apologize for your shooting Mike. We appreciate you taking the time to brave the elements to make the video. We're getting blasted with snow out here in Idaho as well. As for the cartridge conversion, I think I'll see about getting an 1858 Remington Navy in .36 as the cylinders would be faster to change. Pale Rider was a great movie!
@britishcig5462
@britishcig5462 3 жыл бұрын
Happy new year and thank you for these great videos
@steveb1972
@steveb1972 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video on such a lousy shooting day! Have a very Happy New Year!👍🏻
@jerseyred9554
@jerseyred9554 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Mike, and to all y'all
@millcreekrange
@millcreekrange 3 жыл бұрын
It was a great video. I enjoyed it. This Southern Boy wouldn’t be out there in that mess shooting a video though. Thank You for your dedication and education on these fine firearms. If you’re ever down in Alabama, give me a shout and I’ll get you out to my range to shoot. Have a Happy New Year.
@ellismidkiff6117
@ellismidkiff6117 3 жыл бұрын
Never knew there was such a thing as this. Thanks for the great information
@drmachinewerke1
@drmachinewerke1 9 ай бұрын
I wanted to check into a conversion cylinder for a 1861. So I figured let’s see what Mike has on his channel. The man is like a old school librarian.
@Martinbergin
@Martinbergin 3 жыл бұрын
NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR SHOOTING AT ALL,ONE HANDED TOO
@pa1adin111
@pa1adin111 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike. That's the shooting club I belong to. I'm glad that snow and ice finally melted. Thank you for the new video even though it was short, I always enjoy watching you shoot. Have a Happy New Year.
@35southkiwi16
@35southkiwi16 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting Mike and happy new year. Not worth risking your health to do much more in those ice skating conditions. I find the conversions very interesting from a historical/ transitional point of view but for me if I want to shoot cartridge I'll use a later period gun. The cap n ball experience is what I enjoy. Again though thoroughly enjoy your videos on this subject as I am sure many others do 😊
@dondraper3898
@dondraper3898 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year to everyone here at the Duelist's Den (and West Shore Sportsmen Association)! Evil Roy has some time to think about his evil ways. Hopefully, he takes that into consideration for his New Years resolution.
@markjob3965
@markjob3965 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Mike, thanks for the video but stay safe,,, we'll wait for your weather to improve. A little disappointed that Ole Roy got a break.
@jannovotny9630
@jannovotny9630 3 жыл бұрын
The target needs to be called Paper Pete😀 Thank you for all the great content and all the best in 2021.
@norm_badwolf_9119
@norm_badwolf_9119 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I just finished up converting my .44 Colt with a Taylors cylinder and I absolutely love that gun! An absolute blast to shoot. Stay safe out there! *oh, and don’t be to hard on your shooting, one handed on a sheet of ice and you’re still deadly 🤙
@stefanfrank4043
@stefanfrank4043 3 жыл бұрын
Frohes Neues Jahr🥂🌟
@ilfarmboy
@ilfarmboy 3 жыл бұрын
getting into a warm truck is a blessing
@jamesa.7604
@jamesa.7604 3 жыл бұрын
It was a very good video. You stay safe and have a Happy Prosperous 2021!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Also like your jacket, pard!
@dennisatkins9837
@dennisatkins9837 3 жыл бұрын
Nice hat too!
@wrxs1781
@wrxs1781 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video, I feel your pain with the weather up here north of the border. I am saving my pennies for the Taylors conversion, I will use my Pietta a great deal more with this set up.
@joelseymour6372
@joelseymour6372 3 жыл бұрын
Video is fine, thanks. Already looked at Taylor's for conversations. May make shooting 1851's more pleasurable. And, Happy New Year
@brianshoubert7803
@brianshoubert7803 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year!
@insidiousmr.anderson1244
@insidiousmr.anderson1244 3 жыл бұрын
Happy new year sir. Keep up the cool videos😎
@Curtislow2
@Curtislow2 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Mike.
@hawkenrifles
@hawkenrifles 3 жыл бұрын
Feliz Año 2021, Mike. Saludos desde España. Happy New Year, Mike.
@1248dl
@1248dl 3 жыл бұрын
Have a Merry and Prosperous New Year!
@tinymud3324
@tinymud3324 3 жыл бұрын
Merry X-Mas & a Happy New Year Mike in these trying times ;o)
@nickpalma2782
@nickpalma2782 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New year Mike.
@wayneblair288
@wayneblair288 3 жыл бұрын
Love them conversations like to seen last 5 shoots
@cmdredstrakerofshado1159
@cmdredstrakerofshado1159 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Mike , BTW you need to get a period accurate bic ball point pen cartridge removal tool. Like the one I got for my old Brazilian contract S&W 1917 45acp revolver .It came in handy when I was shoot without moon clips 😉👍🤣🤣😉👍 . I kid a bit. Again happy and safe New Year Mike. Love the videos.
@TheStraycat74
@TheStraycat74 3 жыл бұрын
I've been wearing YakTrax on my shoes for snow and ice for a couple of years, it would really help on the loading line and when you go to shoot! hope that helps!
@JMGeranimo
@JMGeranimo 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I have several ball and cap revolvers, as well as a nice saa armi jager pistol. It need a spring and a new back strap screw. The screw is impossible to find. 3.5 mm . So I have to decide either try to turn down. 4 mm screw or retap the frame.
@turbografx16
@turbografx16 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could reload quicker with the percussion cylinder and paper cartridges, or the conversion cylinder. It doesn't seem like it would be that much of a convenience to me.
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
You're right about that, but this type of conversion system wasn't used on real 19th century Colts. The real convenience was ammo that didn't fall apart, or get wet, that you could carry in belt loops or drop in your pocket.
@lanetaylor7496
@lanetaylor7496 3 жыл бұрын
It was a good video. Glad you didn't fall. Take care out there .
@earlshaner4441
@earlshaner4441 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New year
@bbarton84
@bbarton84 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!!
@bubblehead6160
@bubblehead6160 3 жыл бұрын
still a great video Mike!!
@krat0sag0d92
@krat0sag0d92 3 жыл бұрын
Your all good :D! Catch ya next week stay safe them #10 cci caps are out of stock Mostly everywhere but your shop!
@glockerbob
@glockerbob 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool. I want to get one of those.
@deniskozlowski9370
@deniskozlowski9370 3 жыл бұрын
Evil Roy got a snow day.
@t.curran8243
@t.curran8243 3 жыл бұрын
Happy 2021 Mike! I guess the easiest eat to shoot Barack powder with these would be to load .38 Special with BP and HB wad cutters. Br careful. Good old PA ice covered snow. Great for sledding when we were kids. I had lived in NE Vermont also, and the snow/ice was sticky because of the extreme, constant cold. Still don't have any snow here in Piedmont NC.
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
That'll work
@hargrove_here
@hargrove_here 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting out there. I know how it is, I just fell on my bum yesterday in front of God and everybody because of melted snow turning into an ice rink in my front yard.
@johndeeter4030
@johndeeter4030 3 жыл бұрын
I have one of these for all my BP revolvers, including the Walker..
@Matzah1982
@Matzah1982 3 жыл бұрын
I got out in the country yesterday with my Diana model 34 classic .22 air rifle and it was in the mid 30s with about 4 inches of snow on the ground that was slushy but not frozen and I had to drive in on top of the slushy snow and mud to the sand pit where I shoot so thankfully I drive an suv and thus I didn’t get stuck. I fired 3 shots from 25 yards away at a thin plastic gallon jug filled with water shooting 16 grain H&N hornet pellets and I hit the jug all 3 times with no misses and those hornets really tore up the jug. However because of the white snow and the glare of the 3pm sun and the opaqueness of the target using open sights I had difficulty focusing my sight picture on the target but I still managed to hit it with no misses all 3 times I fired at it
@garycoburn3665
@garycoburn3665 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with shop videos l personal love them.
@wildcatoutdoors
@wildcatoutdoors Жыл бұрын
Man the kirst is so much handier than all of these other conversions
@mr.somebody1493
@mr.somebody1493 3 жыл бұрын
What, no target photo of the heel base bullets? Guess that tells how well they shot. Mike needs some cleated boots and a warm coat.
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
That was totally my fault. I slipped and slid up to the berm and I took the target down without photographing it...just a mental lapse. I shot about the same size overall group as with the wadcutters, but the shots were more evenly distributed with the heel-based bullets.
@angelosusa4258
@angelosusa4258 3 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year hope it was great! Such lovely revolvers. I do love my 1860 army black powder so elegant however hammer won’t cock not sure if it’s an issue with Pietta it spring probably broke but want to get it fixed to shoot again any tips?
@arshooter1
@arshooter1 3 жыл бұрын
Be careful be safe still a great video.
@EricDaMAJ
@EricDaMAJ 3 жыл бұрын
When stationed in Missouri I found a product called YakTrax. They’re ice cleats on rubber webbing that stretches over your boots, running shoes, etc. I saved myself from many a horrible/comic/painful slip and rescued numerous damsels in distress in parking lots.
@curtdudley550
@curtdudley550 3 жыл бұрын
2nd the yak trax. Nasty winters here in the Midwest and they’ve saved bruises on butt more than once
@benjewell6995
@benjewell6995 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Vidio I am just getting into BP. The cylinder cost more then the gun. I think that i will stay with BP, no brass, no mold, no dies, no primers, no new powder (if you can find all of them). I will just buy another BP gun already nave round ball molds, caps and powder. Keep up the good work vary informative and don't fall on the ice we don't heal as fast as when we were younger. PS just subscribed.
@ilfarmboy
@ilfarmboy 3 жыл бұрын
that green guy is sneaky sam
@classicgunstoday1972
@classicgunstoday1972 3 жыл бұрын
Looks better than my video on it. I have no table, my hands full, am tapping on the cylinder with the barrel to shake cartridges out and picking up a stick off the ground to eject. I like these cylinders but the novelty quickly wears off when you have to keep taking the gun apart to reload. My Pietta is 20 years old, used and abused and I’m ready to have it gated and converted and reline the pitted up bore to .357. Love shooting black powder. My shooting area, as of last night, is flooded with about a foot of water down here in Louisiana. So you are in better shape than we are in terms of being able to shoot
@michaelreasoner688
@michaelreasoner688 3 жыл бұрын
could you do 51-61 kirstkonversion...like a gate so can poke em out...pokeemout so no have take apart...have 51 and 61 snubbies...awesomer..hahaha...k.i.s.s. that good ole keep simple dumby would work for me i believe...have read your magazine articles since 1990..love your vids...peace be with you
@raghnallmacaodh3220
@raghnallmacaodh3220 3 жыл бұрын
Between Dustin over at Guns of the West, Blackie Thomas and yourself, my wife is not a fan.. but my new 1858 and 1875's are a blast to shoot....
@bwhog
@bwhog 3 жыл бұрын
We want the blooper reel of slips and spills! One thing about Paper Roy.. He complains less when he gets hit. :)
@azkidd6052
@azkidd6052 3 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you ever tried powder coating your cast bullets to prevent lead fouling...love your videos. Ben.
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
No. Haven't done that.
@blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194
@blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194 2 жыл бұрын
When you load the 38 black powder cartridges besides dipping the bullets in lube are you using a wad inside the cartridge? Good video, thanks for sharing.
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 2 жыл бұрын
No. No wads
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 Жыл бұрын
I would like to have seen the shot group with the black powder loads.
@45auto
@45auto 3 жыл бұрын
Have you bought a conversion cylinder from Kenny Howell in 45 Auto for a replica Remington New Model Army? What would be the most appropriate bullets for those?
@analogludite9575
@analogludite9575 10 ай бұрын
When handloading the black powder cartridges, how do you crimp a heel based or rebated bullet that is as large or larger than the case mouth?
@robertrobert7924
@robertrobert7924 Жыл бұрын
Which heel base bullet mold did you use and were they as accurate as the HBWC ? I use .38 LC with lead HBRN bullets. The guy I bought then from years ago must have run out of pure lead and the last box of these bullets I reloaded were made with some alloy that was too hard. They were worthless in my 1851 with it's .375 barrel, but shot just fine out of my Uberti Open Top .38 with a .357 barrel. I hope to shoot some Hornady .38 HBWC that I reloaded with .38 LC brass with about 1/4" of the bullet protruding out of the case with the hollow base inside the case. I hope they work next week.
@StevenSchoolAlchemy
@StevenSchoolAlchemy Жыл бұрын
good morning!
@colinmoore7460
@colinmoore7460 3 жыл бұрын
Get yourself some ice cleats for your shoes! Stops you slipping over, even in UK.
@TheStraycat74
@TheStraycat74 3 жыл бұрын
I use YakTrax, they slip on and won't hurt anything of you forget to take them off
@edwardgreenaway1808
@edwardgreenaway1808 3 жыл бұрын
Happy new year! Your show is great, I love the text and video content you have produced over the years. I was watching, and that bracelet and clasp looked familiar. Whats the watch on your wrist? If you have a collection, people who love old guns, love cool watch.I for one would love to know. I loved your article on .36 over .44 to start shooting. I always tell people " If it was good enough for Wild Bill Hickok on a 75 yard shot it's good enough for me. I really want an 1861 next. That said I have an 1873 5.5 inch, brass grip frame, made by Uberti and 2 1858s, one engaged, both by Pietta. My favorite to shoot is the 1851 by Pietta. How do the .44 1858s do with different ammo in cartridge conversion cylinders,is one thing id like to see.
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
You caught me, I forgot to take the watch off before filming. It is a Rolex Oyster Perpetual Datejust. I’ve had it since 1976.
@edwardgreenaway1808
@edwardgreenaway1808 3 жыл бұрын
@@duelist1954 That is just about the perfect watch. I thought that looked like a Rolex clasp.
@peterriboni3889
@peterriboni3889 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike..Happy New Year to you and Mary Pat..how well would this conversion hold up in a brass 1851?? Great video as always.
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
Technically, it shouldn't be used in a brass-framed gun. You'll void your warranty if you do. Actually the cylinder will do fine but you'll probably stretch your frame in short order. If you do stretch the frame, and you continue to shoot it with the conversion cylinder you'll have problems because the back plate is going to move around under recoil.
@randyw8412
@randyw8412 3 жыл бұрын
You showed the accuracy with the wadcutters what was it like with the black powder heald bullets? Happy New Year hope 2021 is better
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry. I was slipping and sliding so much I forgot to photograph it, but the groups were the same size.
@johnallerson8050
@johnallerson8050 3 жыл бұрын
Dumb question perhaps, but has wax ever been used as a sealer or partial adhesive for percussion caps on revolver cones? I’ve been watching you for years now. Thanks for sharing you knowledge!
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
The short answer is, “yes”
@robertrobert7924
@robertrobert7924 3 жыл бұрын
How accurate were the heel based bullets on the target?
@tomvawter4531
@tomvawter4531 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, I have a Taylor's conversion cylinder for my Pietta 1858 Remingtons. It functions excellently and is very accurate with my hand loads. Would you recommend the Taylor's conversion for the 1851/61 after your experience with it so far? I have a Pietta 1861 and plenty of reloading components for .38 Special including hollowbase wadcutters. I'm most concerned for the accuracy and stability of the bullets. Thanks!
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
If you have hollow based bullets, you will be all set. They should shoot fine.
@tomvawter4531
@tomvawter4531 3 жыл бұрын
@@duelist1954 Thank you for your quick response. I enjoy your channel very much! As much as I prefer the .44s, the 1851/61 are iconic and sweet to shoot. I'll give it a try. Thanks!
@jamesdeitrich6643
@jamesdeitrich6643 3 жыл бұрын
Any chance you will do this with a Dragoon ?
@MPGunther1
@MPGunther1 3 жыл бұрын
Your aim is still true even if your footing isn't
@jordanhowell3870
@jordanhowell3870 2 жыл бұрын
what should i do if i ordered a conversion cylinder but when i cock the hammer on my gun it doesnt luck up until i spin the cylinder a lil bit. :( im sad after spending all that money on a conversion cylinder that doesnt work on my gun.
@doctormax54
@doctormax54 3 жыл бұрын
I just around to seeing this one. You ended quickly and there may be something down below but what did the target show for the last batch of cartridges or was it too treacherous to retrieve it? I am sure you eyeballed it. How does it compare with the 1861 target?
@jtscsportsciencecoachj9053
@jtscsportsciencecoachj9053 6 күн бұрын
Is a ffl needed to pick up conversion cylinder
@craigcook1571
@craigcook1571 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of group did you get with the heel based bullets?
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
About the same size as the wad cutter group, but a bit more horizontally strung
@mrhamburger6936
@mrhamburger6936 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if anybody sells round nose hollow base 38 specials bullets for reloading or can you buy a mold somewhere
@toddduncan4071
@toddduncan4071 3 жыл бұрын
Third! 😕 Best wishes to you all for the new year!
@DickTickles
@DickTickles 3 жыл бұрын
I was more interested to see how hollow base wadcutters shot and they seem promising. If I ever get a conversion cylinder on the cheap that's what I'll use.
@DickTickles
@DickTickles 3 жыл бұрын
@Rex Kramer Not unless you reload, which I do :D
@mikek8089
@mikek8089 3 жыл бұрын
@@DickTickles, I load the HBWC's with a mild charge of smokeless, and they work great in my '51 Navy. I use the Kirst conversion on both '51 and '60, because I don't want to be taking the gun apart to load/unload.
@mikek8089
@mikek8089 3 жыл бұрын
@Rex Kramer,I can only speak for myself, but I don't reload to save money. I reload for two reasons....1, I can taylor loads to my liking....2, I also load some obsolete rounds.
@philderrderr616
@philderrderr616 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, I have to ask. Is their a calendar for 2021?
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, but, no, there won’t be a calendar.
@mesothelioma5024
@mesothelioma5024 3 жыл бұрын
Still black powder right?
@michaelhenneman5600
@michaelhenneman5600 8 ай бұрын
Looks like deer walk through there, tracks right behind him?
@glockmpw
@glockmpw 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, I thought the conversion cylinders in .38spl were limited to the steel frame guns. I noticed you used a brass frame gun. Are they approved for the brass frames now? I shoot a lot of .38 and was intrigued by this variation. If I can do it on an inexpensive brass-framed gun, I think I’m in...
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
That is a steel framed gun. Only the trigger guard and back strap is brass. When we say brass-framed gun, we mean the main body of the gun, the receiver in rifle terms, is made out of brass. Like a Griswold & Gunnison, or what a lot of sellers call "Confederate" Navy revolvers.
@michaelray4033
@michaelray4033 3 жыл бұрын
Would heeled .454 inch bullets work in 45 ACP cases for shaved Webleys?
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
No. The cases will be too big in diameter.
@michaelray4033
@michaelray4033 3 жыл бұрын
@@duelist1954 nutts. Well, thanks Mike. Better to be that news than waste time experimenting.
@jeffthebaptist3602
@jeffthebaptist3602 3 жыл бұрын
It was good to see that the hollow base shot so well without keyholing. Did you cast both the hollow base and heeled bullets yourself? It's my understanding that you need to use pure lead for hollow base so that they expand, not the harder wheel weight alloy. Is that your experience?
@duelist1954
@duelist1954 3 жыл бұрын
The hollow based were Winchester factory ammo. I do cast hollow based bullets. I use 20:1 lead to tin alloy.
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