Thank you so much for all this information. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this for people. Yes it absolutely makes sense! I think you made a killer amplifier, and even though I bought this specifically for the video, I enjoyed it so much that I’m keeping it. Besides my block letter is pretty beat up and needs a break 🤣 Thanks for everything you do! 💪

@@TaylorDanley awesome, I’m glad you like it ✌️

@@jamesbrown7468 Thank you for making such an important series of amps. You and evh revolutionized the sound of an entire genre of music

@@escalator9734 thanks and YW✌️

i sold my el34 5153- directly after i bought this., this amp is the only one i will ever need ever again., its fantastic- thank you for making this amp sir :)

Thanks for letting us know! I wonder when they dropped in price so dramatically?

@@TaylorDanley late 90's.

About $2400 for the head in 2022 with inflation. Wow.

I'm pretty sure when I first saw them in 2003 the retail price was £1100, surprised the price didn't change much over those years.

You are correct. I was in my first year of college and wanted one so bad but couldn’t afford one.

Nah. It's not even that. It's the settings. Presence and Resonance. They are not setup the same as the original 5150 so if you go with the same on the iconic, it will sound weird. Just dial it for the tone you like, without thinking of what the og 5150 would have been and... enjoy. It's an awesome amp with a lot of tone variety and options available.

Agreed

Thanks dude 💪 🤘

Awesome! The fleshrot is a sweet pedal! Hopefully Boomstick lives up to it.

@@TaylorDanley Yoo yoosed it with the Crate BlooVoodoo too? If soo it soonds frookin broodtal unt soo approoprioot to yoor stooyle.

I enjoy some of his content, but when he went to the store and demoed it, it actually sounded pretty good through just a cell phone video he took. I have an opinion that amps are like beers . I used to drink a ton of beer and I’d say I liked it all from Keystone and, Old Milwaukee , through Coors and Budweiser, on to Sam Adam’s, my favorites were the micro brewery from the locality I was currently drinking in , I’ve even bought a few bottles of Chimay and enjoyed them. My point being every beer had a place and purpose. I sorta feel the same way about gear especially amplifiers. Everything has a place from entry level Vyper amps up to Bogner , Diesel , and Mezzabarba . I don’t like the doom and fuzz amps ( not talking about Orange I love those especially the OR15) personally, but it doesn’t bother me if you do . I just didn’t see the point in aggressively campaigning against the Iconic. If you don’t like something just say, it’s not my thing. I think there are better amps for the money ( standing in front of 50 or so of the most “ Iconic “ rock and metal heads of the last 35 years . I didn’t dig the animosity of the channel, but he has some interesting content and I kind of like the single camera in a room casual thing . I also love the other guitar channels that go all out. Sometimes back in my drinking days I just wanted a couple or three stove pipe ice beers to get buzzed quickly, then sometimes I wanted a single 15 dollar bottle of high end craft brew . Everything has a place .

Who was it that gave it hate?

In the KZfaq community, it's been mostly positive. In the forums online, it's been pretty mixed although I think most of that is speculation more so than actual experience.

@@pat1012 he ain’t hard to find he decided it wasn’t for him based on the EVH demo, and it sounded fizzy on that demo but everyone who’s tested it have been able to get their tone out of it I don’t know why EVH didn’t dial it in better in the official demo even with the matching cab I think it could’ve sounded better cabs and speakers aren’t sexy but account to probably 75 percent of your tone but you can get an acceptable out of nearly anything that EVH demo tone may have sounded killer in a mix ever heard the rhythm guitar stems from master of puppets ? It sounds kinda dull and fizzy the bass guitar is the mojo that actually defines and makes that rhythm tone godlike check out Rick Beato’s video on Master of Puppets

@@brandonjackson5865 Yeah, I did not like the official demo video for the Iconic. It sounded like crap. I also didn't like that Louis Torres guys demo either, it also sounded like crap. But I watched other demo's of the Iconic where it sounded pretty good! But that doesn't mean I want to buy one. Tube amps are just not worth it anymore. Way overpriced for what you get. Most of the time, you are paying extra for the "name" that is on it. Even the high-end amps that sell for $3,000 have about $900 worth of parts in/on them. The cheaper one's like the Iconic are probably $400 worth of parts. Maybe less. I like some of the features of the Iconic, but some of those features don't even work that good. The reverb sucks, and so does the noise-gate. The 1/4-power feature is nice. The bad things about the Iconic are: the pre-amp circuit is not all-tube, and these things are "made in China". They are also only getting 80-watts out of those four power tubes, probably because that is the limitation of the transformers. Or maybe they are running them at lower power to extend the life, which is okay if that's why they are doing it. 80-watts is plenty loud for most situations anyway. I think the amp to compare the Iconic to would be the EVH 50-watt Stealth. If the Iconic can get close to the Stealth in terms of tone and headroom, then it would be a decent value for the money. Iconic is made in China, Stealth is made in Mexico. Stealth is around $500 more, but it is all-tube circuits. I have not seen inside the Iconic yet, nobody has posted any gut-shots. I have seen inside the Stealth, and I am NOT impressed. Too much PCB going on inside there. Digital modeling, and solid-state has come a long way since the 90's. We don't need tube amps anymore. The more expensive they keep getting... the easier it will be for people to move away from them. I got away from tube amps a long time ago... I am glad I did. Zero regrets.

Thanks dude 🙏 🥳

Thanks dude. Think it's time I remove the shrink plastic from the pickups 😂

@@TaylorDanley yep been there before! Lol

I'm happy you're happy!

Thanks dude! 🤘

Yeah, I almost think the stealth has too much gain. Did I just say that? Who am I?

@@TaylorDanley never too much gain lol

GREEN CHANNEL FOR LYFE!!! 😈

Yeah that thicker sound is what you get on the new Iconic with the "Burn" switch on. Burn off sounds a little closer to the 5150 iii.

That's interesting, let us know if you upgrade the 4x12 and how much of a difference it makes! I'm curious about cab construction vs speakers.

@@TaylorDanley will do! The cab is mdf sides/back and plywood front where the speakers are mounted. Also a brace in the middle front to back. Aluminum handles on the cab (more than I can say for other “better” cabs), nice tolex. The cab is overall quite nice in my opinion. I think my biggest takeaway is the presence on the amp can be a night and day difference between 10 o’clock and 2 o’clock. I can’t even imagine going past 2 o’clock on the presence without the treble making my ears bleed. And if the overall tone profile is a bit too scooped in the mids for your tastes, a 1-2dB bump with an MXR 10 band or your favorite EQ around 800-2k makes a huge difference.

@@K707OR30 Oh totally agreed, presence past noon for me is a deal breaker. It actually made me realize that I prefer it that way on the OG too... Although the top end on the OG breaks up a little better IMO

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I agree with poo poo 💩!!!

They are a little thicker!

Thanks so much 🙏 those have blackouts as well, don’t they?

@@TaylorDanley yes sir. The signature mick thomson blackouts EMTY. They're amazing

@@TYLERtheMAGGOT1 I almost think I like the blackouts sound better with this amp than my EMGs. I’m also totally willing to admit that it could be in my head 🤣

@@TaylorDanley I'm with you on that. I have a LTD EC-1000 work EMG 81s as well as a Solar A2.6 with the regular blackouts and I thought the blackouts sound a bit better on the Iconic, as well as the EMTY blackouts. The brightness of the Iconic make the blackouts shine. I agree

The Grind only sounds good in amps like the Mesa's, basically amps that need to be tightened up which is the complete opposite of the 5150s.

I loved the combo as well! Not sure the hate. It sounds great and has modern features

Idk I think people just jump to conclusions from listening to the official evh demo through their phones speaker

I just bought the 5150 Iconic 1x12 combo. Still not sure how much I like it. Even with the onboard noise suppressor dimed out, it still has a LOT of hiss when using the red channel.

Thanks dude! 💪

You can talk about whatever you want! Thanks for your input 🙏

The boomstick was way sicker IMO

I’m with you, I bought this one used lol

It's crazy to me too, but I found a lot of people really don't want to buy used. I guess It's a good thing, more things for us to get

Two years of not worrying about it inspired me to get it new. One trip to the amp tech and one of those used ones starts climbing in price, and that's for an easy fix, you know? Hopefully never have issues but I've had too much shit fail on me over the years for one reason or another to discount some peace of mind.

Thanks dude!

Thanks dude! C standard.

Thanks so much man, I really appreciate that!

I got the 15 watt version. I do not pay live, so not an issue. But, I see your point. However, it was probably done this way to save on costs.

That would have made it a 4 Channel amp. The 5150 iii have 3 channels and cost a lot more. This one has 2 and is pretty affordable. You need to make a compromise, and unless you play very varied music.... you can choose either Clean or crunch 1 + Channel 2 in either standard or Burn. Or Overdriven Ch1 + Ch2. You also have the Boost pedal swith which opens up a sort of Lead channel. So.... Ch1 either clean or OD plus Ch2 with or without Burn for rhythm. Then Boost for solos. Or... use an OD pedal.

Who play with overdrive having distortion? The clean channel is only to tune the guitar. Don´t be soft man.

I'm glad you like it!

It's different in a lot of ways, but very familiar in a lot of ways if you know what I mean.

It's NOTHING like my Peavey 5150. NOTHING. My friend brought his new one over, and my 5150 and 5150II buried it. The Iconic sounds grainy and muddy as hell next to them. It feels NOTHING like the original, sounds NOTHING like it, and resembles it in name only.

@@kennethc2466 interesting. I watched Tone Wars video and the iconic buries the 5150 block letter he is using in that particular scenario haha I’ll just have to try them side by side. I do like my 50 watt stealth better than my Block Letter.

@@brandonbryson3317 I'm talking about the ROOM, not a miked up production. Anything can bury anything in a video. You can make a Line 6 POD bury a Peavey XXX in a video, coming through a phone speaker. I'm talking about playing with another GUITARIST, DRUMMER, a BASS PLAYER, and a SINGER! You know, like what the 5150 was built for, and not the ICONIC 'sounds good on youtube' Fender budget amp.

It's coming!

YES! I just gotta get it on the rotation. Keep an eye out for the poll.

One of my favorite movies! Not sure what the actual art is going to be yet, probably something commissioned, so it won't be the same as the prototype. But we're gonna try and keep it close to the movie.

"Listen up you medieval screwheads!.." Shop smart. Shop s- mart.

Ok that makes more sense. There's another comment that said they went for 1200 new, which seems really expensive to me, but maybe there were just some unscrupulous dealers trying to make a mark up.

Those are just handheld shots in slow motion. I do use a slider though to ad movement when I'm demoing stuff since I'm a one person operation!

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It’s not a bad cab, im just messin… thanks for watching until the end 🙏

Can’t do it… I love having ridiculous amounts of low end 🤣

@@TaylorDanley Yeah, when you play by yourself in your bedroom, low-end is great! But when you are with a band, you gotta roll that off.

@@TheCyberMantis no, you just need a band that loves and respects your needs and together you can build a relationship based off of trust and not fear. If your band makes you turn down your low end, it just wasn’t meant to be 😢

@@TaylorDanley It's not about that. It's about getting into the bass guitar's sound range. Below a certain frequency, is the space for the bass guitar. If the guitar is in that range too, it can be too boomy sounding to the audience. Then the FOH guy has to try and compensate to tame the muddy low-end. This is why I don't even like 7-string guitars, or 5-string basses. You get an overlap into each others range. If the band has a keyboard player... he can get into those ranges too. It all adds up.

@@TheCyberMantis I’m just making jokes dude, I understand how mixing works. While I disagree about it being entirely necessary to cut out your low end to accommodate your bass player, if you feel it’s necessary have at it! You do you champ!! 💪

100% I know it's hard to see, but Shea went ahead and acid etched Ash holding up the shotgun on the pedal.

@@TaylorDanley that is Fucking amazing dude .. we wrote a song called evil dead but it’s a tribute to all of those movies really 🤘🏻.. makes me want that pedal even more now lol

Thanks dude. You too 💪

😂 good catch. Idk man, people want to find something to hate on always. "It's the chinese parts... it's missing 2 tubes... it looks weird" 🤷‍♂️ I think it's great.

Yeah I bought it and have a couple hours in, but really need to play it more. So far it’s pretty cool!

I haven’t, but one of my patrons just listed one on reverb! I may do some mini head videos in the future, right now I have my sights set on some 90s death metal amps 😈