TBS Crossfire frequency & region causes failsafe at short range when set incorrectly

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TBS Crossfire frequency & region causes failsafe at short range when set incorrectly

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If you bought a Tango 2 in the USA, you may be having failsafes at short range. This is because it ships set to the 868 MHz frequency band, which is not right for the USA. Let's talk about the region and frequency setting, and how to know the right one for you.
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-- TABLE OF CONTENTS --
0:00 - Intro
0:34 - Where to access the region and frequency settings
1:16 - Tango 2 ships with wrong frequency for USA!
1:51 - What do the frequency and region settings do?
2:21 - Why I don't recommend using the "region" setting
2:56 - What do all the "frequency" settings mean? Which should you choose?
5:40 - One final catch. You might need to re-bind.
5:56 - Why would CRSF failsafe at short range?

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@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын

If you don't see Frequency or Region in your script, it probably means you previously selected a Region, and now the radio is locked to that region. Here is how to unlock it team-blacksheep.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/4000099976-region-crossfire-locked-no-frequency-selection-and-limited-power-selection-under-general-menu

@agtjackbauer 3 жыл бұрын

On my gosh I suck bad I didn't even see this before I ask im so sorry to make you waste your time . But that code is something you should have shared in the video. All you would have to have said is it's the konami code in everybody would have understood😂🤣😂🤣

@JodyGUY 3 жыл бұрын

Any idea when one could expect these to start shipping again? Every website has been stuck on pre-order for the better part of a year.

@mikeferrer9362 2 жыл бұрын

thank you!

@lcfpvmidia 2 жыл бұрын

thank you! you is top

@povcz Жыл бұрын

Спасибо !

@traxxi2003 2 жыл бұрын

It is truly amazing how every time I have a question about FPV I can always find the answer in your channel!! Thank you Joshua!!

@RGMGFitness 2 жыл бұрын

*Thanks Joshua* Just received my new *TBS Tango 2 Pro* and was going over my settings (was incorrect 868 MHz). Just updated to correct Frequency Band (915mHz -USA)...so thx! Also, for anyone else who may read this. Some things have changed with the newest firmware *VS 6.14* . The menu layout changed just a bit. Impossible to keep up with all this stuff I know; SEE BELOW From Tools Menu (1/6); 01 BetaFlight Setup 02 TBS Agent Lite

@daensch 3 жыл бұрын

I started fpv a few days ago and nearly everything I know now, I’ve learned from you Joshua 😁👍🏻 thanks and keep going. Greetings from a CE region 😉

@SwainixFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Also from CE, did you have to get a permit or is your drone under 250g ? xD

@daensch 3 жыл бұрын

@@SwainixFPV currently I’ve no drone and I ordered only a tiny whoop (mobula6hd) but I passed the eu permission (A1/A3) twice in two different country’s 😅. It’s not that difficult and for free, so I really recommend doing it to get to know why they made up this regulations. As long as you avoid people and don’t distract any aircrafts, everything is good. Only the Spotter regulation sucks.

@SwainixFPV 3 жыл бұрын

@@daensch yeah I just fly with no spotter in an open grass area, also got the A1/A3 permission, but if you fly only a tiny whoop you don't need it right ? I passed it only bc I built a 5''. The only problem is that this area is within a no fly area due to an airport near by, but I fly low to the ground and I've seen a few police cars go by and they never stopped, as well as other kids flying rc airplanes there so I think I'm safe.

@daensch 3 жыл бұрын

@@SwainixFPV thats a pitty, but you should really go somewhere else when you do FPV instead of VLOS. the rules were made up to avoid damage or harming people, even if it’s not the pilots fault. Is there an open Field nearby? My plan is to train myself with the tiny whoop until I go 5“ or 3“ (250g) but the weight doesn’t matter up to 900g when you are far away from people or restricted areas. So good luck and happy training, im pretty excited when I got mine 😁😁😁

@SwainixFPV 3 жыл бұрын

@@daensch Yeah the open field is where I go but everywhere in a 25km radius is a nofly zone sooo xD. I also look out I'm actively avoiding the few people letting their dogs out. I would advise to train on the sim as well, a tinywhoop flies pretty different from a 3'' or 5''

@TimsDrones 3 жыл бұрын

Thx - sure enough - mine was running at 868mhz. So I switched it to 915mhz. Flew some of the same flight paths I'd flown before - and no more RSSI warnings - went further even, than before. And the logs are cleaner too. Much cleaner.

@Kettenhund75 3 жыл бұрын

My Crossfire Lite module for my Taranis also came set to 868MHz - I'm in Texas. I immediately changed it to 915MHz.

@Dr_Matthews 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been so concerned about this issue and I can’t thank you enough for helping me get it solved!!

@hadyandharmawan7650 3 жыл бұрын

6:52 in Indonesia (South-east Asia), we use 915mhz, refer to coloring map on the user manual 👍

@pujisutiono5066 2 жыл бұрын

tapi mas, im setup the radio with 915, doing dive near the tower cell equipment, my quad has rx loss, even my distance about 100 m and LoS is pretty clear, what's wrong?

@StonyRC 3 жыл бұрын

Never since the great days of the War of Independence and the heartfelt and poetic Declaration of Independence have such words been written. "The United States. It's less than most of all of the world". Thank you Joshua, you brightened my day.

@dougtutt2720 Жыл бұрын

Finally graduated up to XF Tango 2 from Frsky QX7 and was all stoked to send my new LR4 out to the Hinterlands but didn’t get 50 yards. Imagine my consternation! Came home went to your channel and whoop there it is that’s what the problem was. That’s one more solid JB. Until I can compensate you for all the fpv info you’ve imparted I’ll continue to lavish you with praise and thanks.

@outcold4470 Жыл бұрын

Honestly I would of quit FPV without your videos, you have helped me out of several problems. Thanks for the Videos....Including Tango 2 wrong frequency, short range. Could only go a 100 yards or so before I would get critical signal warning, hoping the change helps. Thanks again.

@stevo43068 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, thank you, thank you, I just got my Tango 2 and I had no idea this was a thing. Sure enough, it was set to 868 MHz. Again, thank YOU!

@RGMGFitness 2 жыл бұрын

You and me both! Why suppliers/shippers don't update this or make it extremely clear to buyers is frustrating. Fortunately, I stumbled across Joshua's video before my 1st flight.

@digitaltitan 2 жыл бұрын

Same. Even in 2022 this is still a thing that the manufacture doesn't inform you of.

@jimmynature7661 3 жыл бұрын

What a valuable tip for Tango 2 owners! You are a diamond in the rough, Joshua!! 💎💎💎

@Skavage 3 жыл бұрын

Hmm...did you just call Joshua coal? :)

@jimmynature7661 3 жыл бұрын

@@Skavage A very polished lump of aged coal 💎💎💎😉

@SunriseWaterMedia 3 жыл бұрын

@@jimmynature7661 Ha ha ha

@middlegrey2 3 жыл бұрын

Your the best Joshua, I bought the Tango 2 to be set up with a nano rx and DJI air unit for my first drone. I am yet to make my first flight, but having watched so many of your KZfaq videos and hours on a sim I think I'll be able to sort of nail it. You hooked me into this new hobby (which is a good thing), thanks again.

@rotorheadfpv6300 3 жыл бұрын

I bought a TBS crossfire micro TX for a Jumper T-Light and had really short range to the point i just thought it was the Jumper since everybody is saying it doesn't play well with crossfire so I removed the crossfire. I just watched this video, ran out to check the micro TX and it came with the 868 MHz. I changed it to 915 and wow!! What a difference. Now I can use it and not failsafe 100 feet away. Thank you so much. You are the best.

@skyoneproductions1224 2 жыл бұрын

Once again, thanks... Switching all my quads to Crossfire and couldn't figure that out... But bound it and changed the settings, now getting all the distance I want..

@smks5 3 жыл бұрын

When are you going to do a video on ExpressLRS?

@mornelourens9202 3 жыл бұрын

This is quite an interesting subject and very relevant in my opinion. I've had my Micro V1 for about 1.5 years now, and since day one it was on the wrong frequency until I watched this. My unit was factory locked so it was not showing in the TBS Agent which frequency it uses, and I just assumed it's automatically set correctly by the local shop since there was no way to change it from my point of view. My LQ was always low, and I had no idea why, until now... To be fair, I have had only one failsafe since I started using CRSF and it was at a mere 300 meters. I've done close to 2KM even while I was using the wrong frequency but I am yet to test how the signal holds up now that it has changed. I definitely learned a lot today. Thanks, Joshua!

@ceazy1861 2 жыл бұрын

Your channel is God sent, man i was set to 868, got that changed over to 915

@zachpierce9776 3 жыл бұрын

I just got a Tango 2 and noticed it wasn't set in the right region. Nice you made a video about this for others.

@csg2000 3 жыл бұрын

My crossfire micro tx 2 was also set to the wrong frequency on arrival as well. If I hadn't watched your video I probably would have never caught it. Thank you!

@OproDarius 3 жыл бұрын

Oh my God! You fixed my problem, I was searching for a fix and this is it! Thank JB!

@riverstreamsss 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much JB after so much work/setup/customization/tuning I was finally confident to go fly. Got like couple hundred feet and got a “critical rx” warning and I’m like bruh. This is supposed to be the famous tbs tango 2 lol

@kenny2644 3 жыл бұрын

This is the exact video I needed! Pretty sure this is one of my main problems with my setup! Think I have something else wrong too but not sure what yet! Thank you kind sir! All love and respect!

@ceazy1861 2 жыл бұрын

Your channel is God sent, thanks i love your channel, got switched over to 915, hopefully this changes things in the area i fly frequently

@Cangr78 Жыл бұрын

Best explanation ever ,I’m starting the fpv world I’m always checking your videos

@frankm5336 2 жыл бұрын

My Babyhawk II maiden (and a TX16S with TBS Crossfire Micro TX v2 module), at about 200+ away, I kept hearing "Telemetry Lost ... Telemetry Recovered" and had no idea why. It didn't appear to affect flight for those brief moments. The frequency could very well be the cause! I've changed it to 915MHz (I'm in the US), we'll see how it goes. Thank you!

@UnHappyKillMore 3 жыл бұрын

Once again...Thank you JB!............ now to clean the mud off my dirty Nazgul5. Very muddy here in Melbourne Australia.

@gilles.mp4 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely desperate me from germany, for one week in peru trying to figure out what the hell is going on....😭😂 Now that saved my day and the following year which I am going to be here, thank you very much Joshua!

@GeorgeCooper_LoneWolf 3 жыл бұрын

Ok, this is bleeding annoying, I received an email this morning asking me about this from a new pilot, and spent about 45 minutes writing a detailed reply and explanation on how this works and what to do. Why the hell didn't you post this yesterday Joshua, then I could have just sent a link lol... Great explanation JB and I'm sure a lot of pilots have been court out and changed the regen from open then regretted it... 👍👍👍

@TopSpeedKertus 3 жыл бұрын

I cannot believe this was my issue. I literally de-soldered and re-soldered so many connections, for hours, days, with no solution in sight.... and this was the issue. Really wish I hadn't taken my Nano RX off the nice onboard FETtec FC mounting location. It was looking so cleeeeeaaaan! I am so lucky to have not dropped a $550 quad into the ocean.

@sebastianl3215 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that Josh. I was having issues with the TBS Crossfire TX. Maxing out at about 300m with nano RX. I realized that it was operating at incorrect frequency for me being in US.

@FPVHans 3 жыл бұрын

I am still so happy that i switched to crossfire. Just love it!

@milkismurder 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for leading us astray Joshua 🖤

@charliedcho 5 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for all your help Joshua!

@2toeninja 3 жыл бұрын

Omg... I've been using the wrong setting for the 3 months I've had my tango.. thank you🤦‍♂️

@boryshacker 3 жыл бұрын

Finally a brief video... life is waaaay to busy to watch everything

@cracymarc 3 жыл бұрын

with lbt the telemetry is still fully working. but there is a higher chance for micro failsafe when many pilotes are in the air

@ericcoker8784 Жыл бұрын

Dude!!! This is a "Gonna learn something" moment. My Tango was shipped 868 and while I knew no better until today, and I learned something. I was out with the Venom AND Firefly (hexa stuff). Usually my FRSKY was the one to fly around the house or outside, short distance. Well, lemme tell ya, took the Venom outside, lots of housing, cell phones, wifi and stuff. Thanks goodness I had *warnings* set up. Still had video but the Venom had issues turning around. Acted like it was drunk for 5 second or less. Manage to get it back. Firefly up next! Took it to a small park, did a better but not by much. It also did some crazy stuff. But it only acted weird near some security cameras set up by the HOA. Came back home, keep in mind, I tested both within 30 min of each other. So, I said WTF! I jumped on the Bardwell site...."I sure as shit did learn something and fixed both immediately." Thanks my homie, it is dark now and gonna rain, testing will have to wait. Eric

@The_Eric_Allen 3 жыл бұрын

Good info to have, thanks Joshua.

@JoshDisher 2 жыл бұрын

This just resolved my issue with the Radiomaster TX12 I've been using... Incorrect region\Mhz had me dropping constantly

@MCsCreations 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for the tip, Joshua! 😊 Yeah, failsafe out of nowhere wouldn't be funny. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@MikeKinney8675 3 жыл бұрын

Joshua, thanks for looking out for us.

@duncanwilliams5790 3 жыл бұрын

I learned something today! Thanks! Had assumed the 915Mhz was the one for Australia, but evidently I was wrong and now I (potentially) have more range to work with! Maybe that would have prevented last weekend's walk of shame into the cow paddock on the other side of the river from where I was staying. Onya Josh!

@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын

915au is for Australia.

@Intuitronix Жыл бұрын

I’m glad I watched this! Thanks again for the 100th time. I appreciate all your help :)

@paulmeissner7000 2 жыл бұрын

Your diligence is astounding, thank you

@wootsman 3 жыл бұрын

My xfire module was set wrong too. good info! thanks again!!

@CameronWright 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, I stopped using the tango 2 with crossfire (switched to tracer) I hope this fixes it

@MrSabram07 3 жыл бұрын

Tracers 900 all the time correct with ludicrous power?

@KrotowX 2 жыл бұрын

Greetings from CE country. Was pleasantly surprised that my Tango 2 came with 868 MHz Open mode already from factory. Seems TBS certainly are paying attention to region where they ship their radios. Wish they would already have compiled OpenTX Companion with FreedomTX support for download.

@frank215 3 жыл бұрын

I learned this the hard way when I first got my Tango2. Luckily I was over an open grass field.

@benjaminoliverfilms 3 жыл бұрын

very great tip!! Thank you Joshua! Just changed it over to the appropriate frequency

@mkedrones 3 жыл бұрын

Learned this late last year first hand... figured it out but boy was it confusing at first.

@Silor 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly I'm surprised so many people needed this video. I mean it's right there in the manual , does nobody read the manuals these days?

@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын

No, nobody reads the manuals. Most products don't even have a manual.

@JB-cq2wo 2 жыл бұрын

Got it. Hold exit and menu for 6 seconds :)

@Eklown 3 жыл бұрын

I had just received my Tango 2 v3 and finally got a chance to start setting it up yesterday. While going through the settings, noticed the frequency was incorrect also.

@TheZolon 3 жыл бұрын

Not failsafing because I am rural and the closest tower is almost 5 miles. :p But, I will be checking my modules, as being a ham radio op I prefer to stick to "legal".

@xnoux1 3 жыл бұрын

Love you, I'm in Canada and now I feel safer :)

@WX4CB 3 жыл бұрын

dont also forget that in the usa, 800 meg is also used by law enforcement for their trunking radio systems

@Blaisfpv 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, after a sold my 2nd one, he told me why I was always getting “telemetry lost” non stop, it was this.

@FAB1150 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, thanks for this! I put it in the 868CE setting without thinking about it (I'm in the EU) and I do have telemetry, so i don't know what's the difference. I'm gonna need to dig a bit deeper!

@thorsten7868 3 жыл бұрын

Please do an update to this video: Failsafes on crossfire with MICRO TBS ANTENNA within range unser 500m

@jinxfpv6637 3 жыл бұрын

Yep - just found this out when I got my Tango. Emailed TBS and they got back super quickly and told me I was at the wrong frequency. I was going nuts trying to figure out why I was getting critical rf alerts within 50 yards.

@Iflyfpv760 2 жыл бұрын

bro this is exactly what happen to me when i got my new radio master radio, thanks for this video

@isaaclanier1507 3 жыл бұрын

I’m glad I realized this a few months ago for myself

@shamskhan2256 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Sir Kindly make a video on R9m Module and R9mx receiver binding procedure. I have a lot problem with binding. Please please please

@dragonmodel9262 3 жыл бұрын

wow great information I would have never figured this out. I got one of these but there is so much to learn and how to set it up properly I just end up never using it but I want to fly. good video though thankyou..

@elijahschwindt7403 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you thank you thank you!!! I live right beside a cell tower and was having this problem constantly, this was the magic fix I needed!

@dangerous8333 3 жыл бұрын

I can verify this. Broke the arm on a brand new 4-in. Thankfully I was over grass.

@bushcrafter6416 3 жыл бұрын

So glad i seen this, YEP, M Tango 2 was set on 868

@PapaSenangEnduro 2 жыл бұрын

Thx Josh, this surely helped me alot maximizing my tx !!! 😎

@SCFPV 2 жыл бұрын

I've got a TangoII Pro that's set properly, and still suffers from short range intermediate failsafes. It blips in and out, ultimately causing a crash. I don't have this issue on my full size crossfire setup. I've gone through and tried updating, and downgrading my TangoII Crossfire micro TX, and Freedom TX, and the mhz settings are correct too, all still to no avail. I like the form factor of the Tango II, but I don't care for all the random issues I've had with it. If I have it placed anywhere near metal with a magnetic force, or anything of the like, the hall gimbals will go batshit crazy. The battery voltage reads whatever it feels like, and these issues have been the prevalent throughout the old and new main boards.

@patrickcolclough2423 3 жыл бұрын

All FrSky transmitters are EU(LBT) in Europe, (or should be), and we still have telemetry.

@SummerCrowfpv 3 жыл бұрын

Great video that fixed several issues for me

@metallicaandchimaira 9 ай бұрын

It’s weird because ill go to this park in AZ that has what appears to be some sort of 5g tower or something idk. My drone is set to 915mhz. The first time I came to this park my chimera 7 randomly did a failsafe and my drone just fell from the sky. Cost me 100$ in repairs. Then I went to the same park today to try a power loop over this cool looking building. Since I had failsafe before at this park I was flying kinda low and I had little x appear at the top of my ocd screen and again the drone just dropped. I wasnt even that far and it did that which now makes me believe that tower has something to do with it.

@E45111 3 жыл бұрын

I live in Europe and use 915 MHz because telemetry works much more stable than on 868 MHz. Even close to mobile network transmitters it works just fine on 915 MHz

@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын

Do not do that. You are interfering with the cell network.

@javiolartegutierrez7728 2 жыл бұрын

I've changed to FCC before you say not to do it, and I can't reset it. Were is the special keystroke to turn it into to open again??? I'm going crazy searching for it, please!!! 😭😭😭

@JoshuaBardwell 2 жыл бұрын

team-blacksheep.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/4000099976-region-crossfire-locked-no-frequency-selection-and-limited-power-selection-under-general-menu#:~:text=Power%20up%20your%20TBS%20Crossfire,to%20unlock%20your%20TBS%20CROSSFIRE.

@rdoc7818 3 жыл бұрын

This exact thing happened to me on my 3rd flight. I had no idea!

@CATALARMIST 3 жыл бұрын

The thrilling outro is awesome)

@fpvfun922 3 жыл бұрын

What about frequency tuning of antenna ? Better with 868 or 915 mhz ?

@nathanvegerano8649 3 жыл бұрын

915mhz in Asia/Oceania(purple)

@TheEviling 3 жыл бұрын

Wonder if this is why there's been several videos lately with random failsafes. Seems odd that a device would ship with the wrong settings for the region it was sold in, but i guess maybe depends on where it was imported from.

@JoshuaBardwell 3 жыл бұрын

They don't make different SKU for different regions. It's a business decision.

@anonymousdrft 2 жыл бұрын

This helped but I’m still failsafing at under 1mile out. Gona try putting the immortal t antenna on the front of quad instead of rear hopefully it helps.

@kvngnz958 2 жыл бұрын

As always, excellent content!!

@SunriseWaterMedia 3 жыл бұрын

Nice shirt!

@rob3393 3 жыл бұрын

To unlock region push bind button 10 times until blue and it’ll open region back up.

@user-ow7dw5ot4y 3 жыл бұрын

on tango2？or？

@pacificnorthwestpilots6050 3 жыл бұрын

Mine came with 868 as well...OR USA

@samuel_runggaldier 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, I recently got a FPV drone from Iflight (Nazgul Evoque) and have big problems with the TBS Nano receiver and the Tango 2. The connection goes constantly lost even if the binding was successful. Have also tried to flash the receiver but it has not changed much. Sometimes the connection stays for several minutes without problems but most of the time after a few seconds the connection goes away. I had no problems with another drone with the same settings. Firmware of the remote control and receiver are up to date. Could you maybe help me to solve this problem? Thank you Sam

@maxair420 3 жыл бұрын

Gonna chk l8r. Thanks JB. Probably is my problem

@cwdgamedev822 2 жыл бұрын

You're the man Josh!

@joshtnewby 3 жыл бұрын

My tango 2 got about the same range as my qx7 with the settings wrong. 🤣🤣

@VagosFPV 3 жыл бұрын

Best ending video ever🤣love it👍

@iiZeiK Ай бұрын

Hi, how do i make sure the settings are set? im not sure how to re bind the quad, can someone help? not finding info either

@KevinDoherty 6 ай бұрын

What's the keystroke to reset. I accidentally click on fcc, darn roller wheel is to blame

@ArchonLicht 4 ай бұрын

Ok, on the TX I can change it via TBS Agent Lite menu option - but how does it change on RX? Will it just automatically scan all bands to find where TX is transmitting, and use that band after bind? How does that work?

@josephturla 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Joshua I just got into FPV and I learned a lot from your video's thanks man, I just want to confirm I am from Asia PH to be specific, is 868Mhz is the right frequency I should use here? I just want your confirmation LOL. hope you'll notice this if not thanks anyways. 😉