TD17 KICK PAD VOLUME & HI HAT FIX

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Emma Holbrook

Emma Holbrook

3 жыл бұрын

The Kick pad is one of the noisiest components of an electric drum kit as it creates the lowest frequency sound waves that travel further. Lower frequency noises also tend to be more irritating for those around us. As well as building risers using tennis balls and noise insulation, one of the most effective ways is change the pad out for a snare drum with mesh.
There's also been a common problem with the Hi hat misfiring on the TD17 - KVX. I show you the better calibration towards the end of the video. #td17kvx #kickpad #tooloud #fix #dampen #hihatfix #tutorial #guide #walkthrough #roland
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@spengill
@spengill 5 ай бұрын
That hihat tip is so damn helpful, thank you for sharing
@blujay9191
@blujay9191 28 күн бұрын
I love this. I've had a TD17-KVX for almost 4 years and the KD-10 bass module has recently started to not register softer hits. I did some tweaking and such; all to no avail and was starting to think I might just have to shell out the money for another KD-10 and voila... this pops up in my feed. Thank you very much. I'm sure this is the way I'm going to go.
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 28 күн бұрын
Awhh this is excellent news. Yes is also recommend putting some material under the mesh head like an old t shirt to help with a more life like bd feel. Good luck and I'm glad the video helped!
@Cloud_Strife_19
@Cloud_Strife_19 Жыл бұрын
Thank you the Snare bass drum idea. I never thought i could set the snare stand like that! Great stuff!
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 4 ай бұрын
It's brilliant! I downtune my premier royal ace 4 sometimes as a bd in uber small cafe venues. You need a robust snare stand though. The mapex falcon is really good and a long as you position the weight of the snare directly over a leg, it shouldn't wobble. I then use a 'drum mat' and my rubber coated tama cobra pedal so the pedal doesn't move wherever you put it. This would be for playing heel down
@foxvernon2202
@foxvernon2202 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, so helpful! Thank you! And lovely playing. A real joy to watch you play the instrument, and then to hear how you adjusted it to work well for you.
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Aww thanks so much much Fox!
@SturleyArt
@SturleyArt 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your insight and advice on this kit. I'm new to drums and have this kit, but struggle with the Hi-hat too.
@TallSomeone
@TallSomeone 3 жыл бұрын
The washer that they give you, with the foam top, that sits below the controller cylinder, makes it so that there is a remaining 1 mm of "mush" in your final pedal push, leading to the hi-hat problem. If that washer has no foam on it, things work fine. You are a killer drummer and an innovative human.
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums Жыл бұрын
Yes this definitely improved things Thanks for this!
@therager4401
@therager4401 7 ай бұрын
Great idea! So do you basically just remove the felt washer so that the controller sits bareback on the hi hat stand?
@therager4401
@therager4401 7 ай бұрын
@EmmaHolbrookDrums Did you combine this washer trick with setting the donut thingy below the calibration line?
@Tom-sd2vi
@Tom-sd2vi Жыл бұрын
Your chops are amazing, love what you did to the kit too.
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom. That's very kind. Yeah there's loads of ways to customise the set up. Who says it should look like it does in the brochure! Haha
@jfbruno
@jfbruno Жыл бұрын
omg thank you for the hi-hat tip! I was going mental. Nice playing.
@stefboule1
@stefboule1 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Emma! Wow this is great! I Bought the TD-17 last year and the noise of the Kick was an issue, I bought NE-10 Noise Eater and it was not enough (neighbors complainte) to kill the vibration , I build a stage sitting on tennis balls an that worked fine for my neighbors but not enough for the tick tick noise (neighbors complainte) lol . So, Here you are with that trick, this is awesome, I will definitely do that also the Hi-Hat problem, I have that too. BIG BIG Thanks to put your video online, Cheers from Montreal Canada :-)
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Awh this is amazing! Thanks for your feedback and I'm glad your new set up is working out for you. Yes those noise waters don't really work do they? It's the low frequency sounds that travel further because of the wavelength so changing the kick surface cuts out a lot. I hope your set up continues to improve! Thanks for the kind comments! 😁
@jeromebrown1263
@jeromebrown1263 Жыл бұрын
Great vid! Thanks!
@luispedrocosta4346
@luispedrocosta4346 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I used to have that hi hat problem too.
@chinatype
@chinatype 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative video and great playing!
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@minhuang8848
@minhuang8848 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't even watched the video yet, but the one thing I immediately noticed was that you tuned your sound a fair bit. I don't know what it is, but just about every channel is obsessed with demoing the default kits, and they sound about as great as default kits ever sounded with Roland. Like, enjoyable for playing and everything, but none of what I heard sounded nearly as tight as yours - including articulation curves and what-have-yous. I keep hearing the old argument against e-drums for so long, but even prolific KZfaqrs often don't come close what my (now really old) TD-4 could achieve with a fair bit of tuning. Sounded really nice for sure.
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 4 ай бұрын
This is from a pack I bought from Roland. I just started tweaking from there www.drum-tec.com/electronic-drums/sound-editions?p=1
@bhaveshsolanki6485
@bhaveshsolanki6485 2 жыл бұрын
Great video on this Emma, at this present time I absolutely HATE the hi hat lol! It's taken me ages to get it right and I have collaborated it like in the manual I will try your way! I just can't get a nice sound when I want to open up the hit hat when playing grooves!
@geminirhythmspirit2573
@geminirhythmspirit2573 Жыл бұрын
Flipping heck brilliant advise, n lovely playing feel you have, thanks
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@SevanStick
@SevanStick 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🤗
@TheGamingDandy
@TheGamingDandy 2 жыл бұрын
That's a damn good idea, moving the snare arm around to the side that way.
@asiakskateboards5861
@asiakskateboards5861 9 ай бұрын
Hi Emma. Thank you very much for your tip. It really worked in my set-up, but its missing a little bit more of accurracy. There is a little bit of latency. I wonder if you could share your hi-hat settings ? Please! Thank you very much! Regards.
@brucelewis1367
@brucelewis1367 Жыл бұрын
I had the same issue with the kick. (AND we had a new baby in the house, so it needed to be solved .) My solution was screwing down some fiberboard and adding a thick layer of foam rubber on top of that, then I threw an old rubber car floormat on top of that and I lag-bolted the kick-tower on that with and used heavy duty rubber washers and its been behaving with a nice bit of silence ever since. And the sucker doesn't move a bit. That was 2 years ago. Last week's project was raising the module 2 feet so the aforementioned child can't mess up my settings anymore.
@revtks
@revtks 3 жыл бұрын
I never would have thought a snare as a bass would be quieter than the bass pedestal. Amazing job! Thanks for being so thorough on the explanation. Also, you're a fantastic drummer!
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah snares also make great bass drums in general if you're in a tiny gig space. Get a relatively deep one and downtune it.
@geezee7
@geezee7 6 ай бұрын
Hello I'm just wondering what type of stand that is that you use to position the snare for the bass drum? Thankyou!
@AngelUribe18
@AngelUribe18 9 ай бұрын
I recently got a td17 kvx2 and while I love it, I have to say the bass pad is pretty loud and it has a ringing sound afer hitting it, I saw this video and I immediately knew this was the solution and upgrade, there's only one thing I'd love to get a bit more detail and it's how to keep the snare drum turned bass drum in its place
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 6 ай бұрын
Hi there, sorry for the late reply. I would say this is about weight. Make sure you have a sturdy snare drum stand. I'm using a mapex falcon here. Make sure the stand is on carpet or a non slip surface and the same goes for the pedal. My Tama Iron cobra is already ruberised underneath so I've never had a problem. Some cajon pedals come with one of these so you might be able to incorporate this around the snare stand in some way? www.dv247.com/en_GB/GBP/Fame-FCPHS-1-Cajon-Pedal-Halteschiene/art-DRU0040775-000?campaign=GShopping/GB&ProgramUUID=HADAqJarPzAAAAFlea9yjI.G&campaign=GShopping/UK&ProgramUUID=HADAqJarPzAAAAFlea9yjI.G&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAnrOtBhDIARIsAFsSe51m1QmLKeovH82rfSchnNVneu8mrI5nNCBPRxRZX-kzR_S-ZW6C2uAaAj4VEALw_wcB
@goldtonestudio4471
@goldtonestudio4471 Жыл бұрын
Are you able to splash the VH-10 Hi hat from closed to open?? I can not get that to work on mine unless I have it about 1/2 open when I start the splash. Maybe these just won't act that normal??
@RADERFPV
@RADERFPV 3 жыл бұрын
This was very informative, thank you. I have the same issue with the VH10 hihat with the td27 module. When you say you calibrate it, what exactly are you doing to the hi-hat to make the little bar move on the calibration screen? Are you adjusting the offset screw or something? I'm new to this, so I'm not sure how to get it properly adjusted. Thank you so much!
@lu_len
@lu_len 3 жыл бұрын
Same question here. Thanks for the video!
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it's the offset screw. This is what makes it tricky as there's a lack of precision. Screw the hi hat up so that the notch underneath the hi hat that changes the position is all the way up inside the clutch. Then gradually start turning all in one direction and then you will have a better idea of where the sweet spot starts to occur. It's best to start the process so that you have physically reset the clutch. I will make another video on the next few weeks to illustrate what I mean a bit better. Thanks for all the comments
@RADERFPV
@RADERFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@EmmaHolbrookDrums Thank you so much Emma, I really appreciate it! I'll give this a try when I get off work. A follow-up video showing how to do it exactly would be great, not seeing much on the webs at all. Thank you so much.
@BigKevvysv1000
@BigKevvysv1000 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sharing :::::-----)))))))))
@valmontsibbo
@valmontsibbo 4 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you. A question how is the bass drum pedal connected? Thanks
@GuitarBrew
@GuitarBrew Ай бұрын
I have the same question, it looks like it’s just sitting there
@youtuveunvideo
@youtuveunvideo Жыл бұрын
My Hi hat is well calibrated, but I think the sound when closing it is quite loud, it's actually louder than my bass drum (as I'm using a foam beater). I wonder if I'm doing something wrong or if there are tips how to make it more silent... Put more felt maybe?
@TheAmerican7
@TheAmerican7 Жыл бұрын
The problem I’m having with the hi-hat is it’s not responding properly to the pedal as far the position it’s in when I’m striking it in play, for instance I’m not getting an open hat sound every time when I want it and it’s quite annoying to say the least, I’ve tried calibrating it even trying different positions and adjustments but I can’t seem to get it sorted. Any suggestions or thoughts? Thanks!
@jaredm7863
@jaredm7863 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing drumming and advice on the hi hat calibration! Can you please tell me how you were able to move your brain to somewhere else besides the end left or right caps on the rack? How did you move it in between the hats and the tom? Thanks!
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jared. Sure the mount for the brain can go vertical or horizontal. Using a drum key, take the fat left leg of the drum frame as if you were in the playing position. Simply slide the brain mount on and it should then become clear where the mount can go on. The plastic mount between the frame and the brain can be mounted in two ways. I hope this helps
@jaredm7863
@jaredm7863 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmmaHolbrookDrums Thanks so much! I didn’t notice there were multiple ways to attach the mount to the brain. Cheers!
@lobbyrobby
@lobbyrobby 7 ай бұрын
I have a Roland td-17kvx2 on the way. Before I even get it I'm thinking about making some changes. I was thinking about putting a pd-85 on Tom 2 and a pdx-100 for the floor tom. Will that work?
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 7 ай бұрын
I don't see why not, you'll have to go into pad settings and tell the module what the pad for that specific channel is. It's all just midi information so in theary it should work. Good luck with the setup!
@deathshead357
@deathshead357 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. When you are playing from 5:06 to 5:30.....is that a pre-set kit from the module or did you import the sounds? I really like the sound you get here.
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums Жыл бұрын
Hi, that's from the drumtec vintage patch you can download. It might be the Hoshino patch?I can't quite remember I'm sorry
@voldmerot
@voldmerot Ай бұрын
Damn you can play, girl!💪💪💪
@pjbarford
@pjbarford Жыл бұрын
Great idea with the bass drum, Roland should hire you 😂 One thing on the hi-hat though, there is also an adjustment on the cymbal it’s self which could help with the problem you were having Also really love your live clips, you’re a great musician
@ibrspace6144
@ibrspace6144 Жыл бұрын
There is a sensitivity setting under Other Volume, at least in Ver 2.0 there is.
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. Sorry I missed this. Yeah seriously I didn't include the clutch adjustment in the video even though I was doing that at the time. Looking back it's still a mystery. I notice a huge difference using the hi hat with the in built sounds compared with using Ableton as a brain. The hi hat on this kit is a world of its own! 😂
@GordonBagshaw-GBEnglishClass
@GordonBagshaw-GBEnglishClass 6 ай бұрын
i asked my question about the VH-10 for a remote hi hat stand, because i intend to play the roland kit from a wheelchair. i have challenges moving from the wheelchair to a drum throne. therefore i plan to set the drumset to be lower than the average set up. the VH-10 on a standard hi hat stand, might sit a little to high for my comfort in playing. a remote hi hat stand might offer more flexibility. looking forward to your thoughts
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 6 ай бұрын
Hi Gordon, thanks for your comment.Yes the VH10 will be fine on a remote stand. It's just the motion sensor unit that you put on top of your remote hi hat the same as any other hi hat stand. Just bear in mind that you might be limited with the length of the TRS cable that comes with the kit , especially if you are thinking of using open handed style. But any normal TRS female to male extension cable should be fine for that. Good luck with your setup!
@PinstripingbyPaulTucker
@PinstripingbyPaulTucker 2 ай бұрын
My hh is almost non existent in the mix. Even when turning the volume to 6. Is the sound on your demo the sound from the Roland or through some other mix. Your set sounds amazing and hh is bright and present
@GuitarBrew
@GuitarBrew Ай бұрын
How is your kick pedal attached to the snare? It really doesn’t look like it is in the video. Thanks.
@drummingintoretirement
@drummingintoretirement 3 жыл бұрын
I have the TD17 and I recently replaced the KD8 with a KT10 to reduce volume. I am having problems with the VH10, calibration and trigger settings. What are your optimum trigger settings. Rim gain, masK time etc. Any help would wonderful!
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 3 жыл бұрын
I will make a video on this soon I promise. Thanks for the comment
@fredtube25
@fredtube25 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Emma thanks for your advices. I need a similar solution to replace my noisy rolland bass drum. Can you recommend me the specs of the snare (size) the model of the trigger and the model of the snare stand? Thanks!
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Federico. The size of the snare really doesn't matter but maybe something on the lighter side so that the stand can hold it. Then use A 3 ply silent head on it. There are lots of brands. You can even try putting some fabric under this when you put it on to deaden the feel so it's not so springy. I use a really chunky snare stand to support the snare on a 90o angle so the Mapex falcon snare stand. Trigger is the Roland single rt30 I think?
@fredtube25
@fredtube25 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmmaHolbrookDrums perfect, thank you!
@CrackerboxPalace777
@CrackerboxPalace777 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed the supplied kick pad is LOUD. I play pretty heavy, Bonham style - do you think a snare would hold up as a kick pad? Also, how is the rebound in terms of heel-toe double strokes?
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 3 жыл бұрын
Yes this is a fair point. Firstly I think you need a heavy duty snare stand. Mine is the Mapex Falcon so pretty sturdy. Possibly may need securing to the frame with zip ties for extra peace of mind. What I would stay now is definitely a 3 ply head, perhaps with an old t-shirt or bit of fabric underneath this stretching across the frame to add a more dampened feel. Then make sure your pedal is on a decent rug with a good grip or velcro. Then it should be fine for double stroke / heavy playing. I'm more of a jazzy / off the head player but I think it should work for your style as well if you make sure the set up is robust. Thanks for the comment!
@GordonBagshaw-GBEnglishClass
@GordonBagshaw-GBEnglishClass 6 ай бұрын
would the hi-hat work with a remote hi-hat stand?
@abc456f
@abc456f 17 күн бұрын
My high hat is starting to give me trouble. The rim hits aren't triggering around the entire cymbal. Had to turn it half way around to find a sweet spot where it triggers. Already replaced one of the crash cymbals.
@KarmaPaym3ntPlan
@KarmaPaym3ntPlan Жыл бұрын
1:00 I didn’t even consider grabbing my [acoustic] snare stand 🗣️ That’s.. so obvious. The attachment holds it up well-enough, but I never felt great about it
@YaronRosen
@YaronRosen 2 жыл бұрын
how can i raise the volume of the hi-hat when i close the pedal?
@sazcor4144
@sazcor4144 7 ай бұрын
Hey, excuse me, what hi hat stand are you using? I would love to get it! Sorry for the late comment
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 7 ай бұрын
Hi, I think it's the YAMAHA HS650WA DOUBLE BRACED HI-HAT STAND
@rippeddrummer111
@rippeddrummer111 11 ай бұрын
Hey Emma! I am facing issues with the ride cymbal, I can’t hear anything while playing. The cables are added and the volume level for the pad is also high, I can’t hear anything for nuts, can you please help😊 me with this
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 11 ай бұрын
Hi, so the other pads are all working fine? There should be two trs plugs for the ride. Try them on other pads and see if you get anything. If you do then it's a sensor issue in your ride
@rippeddrummer111
@rippeddrummer111 11 ай бұрын
@@EmmaHolbrookDrums Hey I just got all of them checked, there was issue with the sensitivity and threshold. Rest all working smooth like butter but there’s a delayed response on the ride cymbal for some reason. Have you ever faced an issue like this though?
@Metal_Health_Worker
@Metal_Health_Worker 10 ай бұрын
I am a bit of a newbie . with what kind of stand do you raise the snare to be vertical?
@Metal_Health_Worker
@Metal_Health_Worker 10 ай бұрын
and why do you have this blue foam under the vh10? and what is it?
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 10 ай бұрын
@Metal_Health_Worker do you mean a snare drum stand? That's totally optional. I have now just gone back to using the Roland ball joint. The foam was a cross section of a pool noodle designed to cut down on impact noise when doing left foot work. I don't use that any more or even the foam coated disc that comes with the hi hat. Much better to keep that a solid mount. Hope this helps
@Dozereyes
@Dozereyes 4 ай бұрын
Hi so your bass drum is free floating not connected to a drum riser or anything?
@EmmaHolbrookDrums
@EmmaHolbrookDrums 4 ай бұрын
Yes, but the weight of the snare drum and stand with a silent head means that there isn't much force put on the head as with a traditional bass drum. You can experiment with different plys and even putting a t shirt under the snare head when you put it on. I also have a tama Iron Cobra which has a rubber lining underneath so it's kept in place on a rug or matt. The snare stand is the Mapex Falcon so that isn't going anywhere. Hopew that helps.
@stevebarnes9694
@stevebarnes9694 2 жыл бұрын
She's good
@seanwalsh999
@seanwalsh999 2 жыл бұрын
That kit is dialed in.
@jimn1968
@jimn1968 2 жыл бұрын
Hey little Karen Carpenter…..
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