Man, your videos are great. Just learned a lot watching them. Thanks for your work!

It was nice to see one of these T & E videos after so many of the (quality) amplifier design videos. A nice little break. Thanks John!

Man, love your videos ! Really educational (for the technical details)

I agree, POS connectors. Nice review Snickers. John, good input too!

Thank you John, I like all your videos

KZfaq is the closest thing to time machine. Watching this video again and great to see snikers ❤️

Snickers is like even-order harmonics in diatonic music. Add warmness in our life. Cheers from Indonesia

Greetings friend John. I don't miss the opportunity to see the tests you do on the amplifiers. I have learned a lot and have encouraged me to make my own audio systems. You could make a video showing which is the setup for the tests: filters to eliminate noise and some other resource to be able to clean the audio outputs. Thank you very much for the time and dedication you put into the videos. Greetings and hugs from Chile. (Excuse my English).

Nice video John! That harmonic issue was very interesting.

It is still used in China Android head units. Just bought a new Mekede head unit with this chip an it seems really good. It does not cut down the bass at higher volume like other chips in other head units i used. Thank you for the video.

M confused by measurements of this ic of " output pins resistance =3ohm " what mean by that ??

ive played with the TDA7850 before its actually a nice amp for 12V. this is what you do. 4 Ohm at 16-18V supply. almost 35-40WPC. if you have a nice heatsink, 2Ohm 16V get around 45W. Another good quad chip amp is the STPA003 and 008. 16V 2 ohm almost 50W! or run a TDA7577 which is a stereo chip in PBTL 1 Ohm 16V for about 80W. i have too much fun with chip amps

Thd testing, just what I've searched for, old subscriber

It would be interesting to look at the supply voltage at the amplifier IC pins with the scope when its loaded up. Voltage drop over the supply wiring and PCB traces can have a significant effect on maximum power in these automotive bridge amps.

Thank you for the video. I'm working on a project where I want to connect the TDA7850 (just the chip, no circuit board as it sits on an Android Head Unit pcb already) to an external 18v power supply - a 12v to 18v step up converter. I noticed there are 2x VCC pins (interconnected) so wanted to ask whether I should provide power to one or both of the pins from that external power supply? Thanks

Why is the hiss present even in very hi fi ICs? Is something with the components, the circuit layout or both?

I'm just getting into this sort of thing as a hobby and I'm thinking of using this amp to modify a cheap soundbar. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming that you're using the preamp due to running the music off your mp3. Or is the preamp used to control volume of the amp itself. Also, how much current does the amp draw at full volume?

Do you have experience with the TDA 7388 chip? If so, which do you think is better between it, and this one? I know the spec sheet claims this one is a little more powerful, but that doesnt necessarily hold to be true always. Any insight is helpful! Great vids!

I agree those terminals are crap. For use once, they are passable, if the screw heads don't mangle up first! But it's really bad news if you need to screw and unscrew a couple of times. I often end up soldering the wires to the board. I think the most irritating thing is you often cannot get a decent thickness wire even in the hole.

hello, do you believe where it is located on this amplifier where to connect Mute and St-by? because I have a problem with crackling during startup. I will be grateful for the hint. greetings

Can you get input and output from those Jack's?

Tardigrades can be one real tasty dinner. We prepare stuffed tardigrades maybe once a month. So delicious!

You can use it to listen to The Who's Quadraphenia!

How would one filter the input signal either with and LPF or HPF?

How does this amp compare to a Bose or Harman Kardon for sound quality and range?

Please make a video on Output power comparison between Single vs Split supply powering Tda2030A, 2050 & Lm1875 chips

Nice video, very informative. Could it be suitable to be connected to a PC sound card directly or should I use a pre-amp?

Didn't expect a cat video

I have a head unit with chip on my car. So which speakers should i combine?

Sorry for the dumb question, but if it’s 4 channel but you have 10 speakers, how does that work?

why is there dc 12v audio interference?

Hot off the China train. I chuckled.

From your results, another IC manufacturer quoting peak power, rather than RMS power, in their datasheet. EDIT: just looked into it, seems like it's the EIAJ rating, which is the saturated square wave output power. Either way it is either double or close to double the RMS rating.

Hey i want to ask you maybe you could help how to connect it to car? i want good audio sound from it with no noise.From my phone or tablet. Pss:Thanks if you could help.😊

John, could some of the distortion actually be due to the front-end of the scope clipping? Your fundamental frequency is off the scale.

12 v at what amperage?

Its got thermal protection, it does say its 2 ohm stable so its probably fine... Not in this implementation though with that tiny coil....

Can this be bridge for 54w rms at two ohm? My China android head unit has this and I amplified the rear speakers in my car with a 2 channel so I want more wattage to my front speakers.

What class of amp is it ?

The datasheet(later) clearly says 20-23 watts at 14.4v at 1% Distortion.

Hey JohnAT, Thanx again for fine work and sharing big knowledge.. What do you think of so called "Power Conditioners" ...? I think I hate them . AND their claims of drastically improving the sound quality of high end HiFi systems. Aren't most just WAY OVER PRICED power strips. I have one, was a gift, it is way empty inside. A couple MOV's , switch, indicator Neon, no filter(s), no coils. Basic nada. Can any of these power boxes be shown to improve sound beyond swelling one's head and placebo effect ...?

Do you have a link for the amplifier? Thanks.

Capacitors play a major part in the coloratura of sound.

That led color. it's whatever they had at the time. LOL

Red led!!!

Tda7850 4x50 4x60?

Amp review: Excellent as always Spelling: Disappointing :)

I'd not say that the harmonic distortion was bad since it is indeed second harmonic and audiophiles appreciate those. I was really impressed by the performance of this chip. Although I doubt it can actually handle high levels of volume into 4 ohms, let alone 2 ohms. But it's a fine little chip for a home theater system I guess. If you use it with 8 ohms load at 14.4V. Should be good.

Porque dicen que tiene 4 x 50 watts?

nuh its not distorted the amp forgot something the stby pin it will distort if the vs signal input is not filtered and switch a transistor

Even from China, in bulk, the TDA7850 chip costs around $10. So for an assembled board, along with all the other parts to cost $10 seems suspect. Maybe it's just a clone of another common chip.

I advice you to check Audio Power amps. from Japanese ICs like TOSHIBA and SANYO like TA and LA respectively.... They are incredible performance than Europeans ....

I also always doubt, that these are genuine ICs. The amount of times, I have received obvious faked ICs from Ebay is appauling. Anyway, good review.

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It's a multichannel mosfet made for cheap car radio's, enough said. You get into overdrive territory (typically 75% on a car radio) and distortion does get unbearable. I've had several decks all have similar mosfets in them. Even with proper settings and making sure there's no final distortion, you can still hear something odd at full volume. Also the heatsinks and power supply's are pretty pathetic on car radio's, as well I don't think these mosfets have enough surface area to properly dissipate heat especially at 50 watts. Nothing beats a dedicated 4 channel amplifier, I had a 400 watt class D tucked away in my center console. Not only did I not have distortion but it brought up the midbass and offered crisper high's, and that was at low volume.

18 voltage to max power. Give 18 voltage

I lost a lot of money on that LED.

Obviously this was designed to be used in a car, so your'e not going to hear much of the distortion.

It's class D, that's all I need to know to find out if it's shit. I mean it can't be something else, a class AB would have to be larger than that

4x80W at 2 Ohms? Lmao. 320W into that small little chip. Seems like the perfect way to burn down your car/house. But as always great video :D

I wonder if it is a real chip, or a counterfeit chip. China counterfeits so much, its always a gamble.

11:15, White shoes?...CALM DOWN!

I 'm always waiting when the cat showing up during each your video. And i purchased mistakenly, instead purchase 4 input-4 output version for my micro bi-amp project, i purchase 2.1 version because it's so similar look a like. Moral story: dont make point-shopping without your glasses.. What a sucks.

Anyone else believe that cap is more then 440mf? More likely 220mf.

bought one don t sound good to me

Cat didn't like this amp. Gone to sleep.

China is using while you are on that train China people like Snickers !!! Won Ton Snickers LOL It would be good for something like a door income system