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man didnt even have it in him to clown the shortstop shove

every time you jump using the FaN as your third jump and not combo-ing first jump into FaN for massive height it physically hurts me

Niche references only you can understand? How dare you assume i haven't listened to the entire GG song lost on repeat

2:12 Fly Away from Raid Shadow Legends

5:22 “Uh, I can explain- BLAH”

FaN and loose cannon: fun but impractical Scorch shot: oh yeah that has knockback

he is ALWAYS in a discord call

My idea for 'fixing' the scorch-shot would be to remove the delayed explosion on a direct hit and make it happen only when hitting map geometry. it would still be a versatile knockback and area-denial tool, but less frustrating / brain-dead. Fishstick's Bad Weapon Rehab did that (but removed the knockback and added full crits on burning players) while HiGPS' balance mod nerfed it's explosion radius and dmg.

12:18 Song name is Extras if anyone was wondering.

Scorch Shot can indeed one shot light classes, hit them with a direct, they get hit by the bouncing flare thus taking mini crit, wait out the full afterburn and bam. They dead unless they extinguish themselves

did not mention loose cannon jumping, hybrid knight with the loose cannon and the tide turner is so much fun

I like your detailed descriptions of everything. It makes it really easy and enjoyable to listen to these videos while I’m working. Keep it up!

Thanks Opal, now I want to buy a Strange Mannana Peeled Loose Cannon and name it "NEW FUNKY MODE"

Regarding what you said about the minicrit scorch shot afterburn, its actually even worse: hitting someone already burning makes the duration increase to 10 seconds with a flare, so it does 100 damage from minicrit afterburn

Did not expect that elphelt theme loose canon clip, was kinda dozing off and it woke me up so fast

2:13 He's using the FAN model that breaks sometimes happens when you double-jump(finally someone noticed)

"some people might wanna watch the world burn but a true maniac likes to watch the fireworks" 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️

8:20 that spy jumpscare when he dies scare the sh*t out of me man💀

I came into this expecting to say something about the Loose Cannon (my most used and favourite demo weapon) but I heavily disagree with the Scorch shot Segment. It honestly, genuinely, isn't that good. It's annoying sure, but the Flare Gun and Detonator are both better. Hitting 90+ damage flares with the regular FG is so much better than the measly damage the SS deals and using full afterburn damage as apart of it's damage is almost dishonest. There are soooo many ways to mitigate afterburn that the person you're fighting must either have a broken keyboard or incredibly unlucky. Against Heavies the FG is better in almost every way too since a Medic can't out heal the burst damage (like he almost certainly can with the SS). You also can't understate the Detonator's mobility, it gives Pyro so much more than the dinky little jumps the SS provides while still giving you AoE afterburn on groups. You don't even have to aim with the Det, just right click when the flare is near people. Even the SS needs to hit SOMETHING to explode. For the Loose Cannon I'll say that it's probably the worst demo grenade launcher. Double donks are very fun but they're not a big enough reward for the skill required to hit them. Thanks to how TF2 handles explosives a double donk might not even kill a light class for christ's sake. Hitting a Scout for 122 and dying because of it will make you wonder why you even bothered learning the thing in the first place. It especially sucks against mini sentries often requiring 2 shots to take one out. But it does have onnnne really good use against turtling engis. Since the cannonballs travel through buildings you can double donk an engi while he hides behind his stuff.

A-posed spy jumpscare 8:19 😮

I knew the sponser was Raid from the laugh.

The force-a-nature on hightower:

Anyone that makes guilty gear reference in tf2 video is peak content

I was not expecting to hear Elphelts theme in a tf2 video lmao

i'm not gonna argue about whether or not the scorch shot is annoying to fight against, but i do genuinely think you're overhyping the weapon to be more than it actually is. you say very hyperbolic things about it being the best flare gun/"best of every world for pyro," having the strengths of every other flare gun, that it does "literally everything you could reasonably ask it to" but none of this is actually true. you refer to it as the 'jack of all trades' flare gun but the ending to that phrase is "master of none." it may technically be the "easiest to use" but the damage is ultimately not as good as the stock flare gun or even the mannmelter, which can deal full crits (the former against burning players no matter what). its crowd control and especially added mobility really isn't as good as the detonator, which can also be used to remove sticky bombs. sure, the scorch shot is the easiest flare gun to spam, but there are so many options for spamming in this game that it feels very silly to single out this weapon. you say you keep using it and that you 'kind of have to' but i suggest you play around with the other flare guns some more, especially the detonator, which the scorch shot is almost entirely outclassed by. it has added knockback compared to it, but literally everything else about it is worse than the detonator. i feel like if that were used as often as the scorch shot (and paired with the phlog as often) then that would be the scapegoat flare gun everyone talks about.

Fun fact: as a person that literally mains with the force a nature, i must say that knocking enemies off a cliff is infact awesome

21:35 doesn't the detonator also have that trait though? I'm not gonna sit here and claim that the scorch shot is well made or anything, but that's making it out to be even worse than it is by claiming that it has a stat that has no reason to be there, even though it's just staying consistent with the other explosive flare gun

I like how Scout actually uses the release lever on the Force-a-Nature. So many video games just have you grab the barrel and yank it like you're actually breaking the gun in half

Great video mate

hot take: the loose cannon is the most annoying weapon in tf2 with a crappy scorchshot pyro you just get set on fire every now and then, with a good scorchshot pyro you get bounced around a bit, with a crappy loose cannon demo you get completely stopped in your tracks and movementlocked for seconds per ball with 4 balls at a time, with a good cannon demo you just die or get sent back to your spawn doors because no amount of knockback resistance is gonna work vs a double donk

Killing it with these videos, love this series

Little do you know, I deleted my Scorch Shot, so I CAN'T sell my soul for damage numbers

i tabbed out for 1 second and got jumpscared by elphelt's theme as i was thinking about it

Scorch shot is really fun in MVM. As much as I love airblast in that mode, a sufficiently upgraded scorch shot can replace it completely.

20:13 Actually, if you hit a light class with the flare, the second bounce of it and they let the afterburn rough through, they WILL die in only one flare.

The scorch shot is one I don’t use often, because flare punch funny, but making enemy gamers mad gives me a sadistic pleasure. I still won’t use phlog though. it is, for the most part, flamethrower without the airblast, and I live for the airblast

With the loose Cannon I will give a fun thing to mention: The damage from the Impact of the cannonball alone isn't that bad all things considered, doing 50 damage. This in of itself is nothing when a double donk is 131 or a direct pill on stock is 100 flat, but the cannonball also will travel through enemies, letting you do 50 damage to a bunch of enemies in a line, not taking in account the explosion or double donk crit. Like, you won't bludgeon a lot of people to death with it, but if you have a hallway full of enemies or an enemy up in your face, bonking them with the cannonball is pretty nice. also, the Loose Cannon can overcharge jump, but I am at 15:02 so you might mention that in a bit.

The 3 most fun weapons in the game, the Force-A-Nature with it’s unique mobility and playstyle, the Loose Cannon with very satisfying hits and rewards for getting good with it, and the Scorch Shot, that you shoot from across the map and stun lock some heavy in a corner with while on the other side of the map.

Guilty Gear mentioned

“Honey it’s time for the totally original ‘Scorch Shot BAAD’ opinion for the 2,456th time!” “Yes dear…”

you covered the FaN so well i’ve seen other videos talking about it but this one is defo the best i’ve seen

The manmelter shines when there is a pyro with the scorch shot in the enemy team

I'm the exact opposite, I love the Scorch Shot and never found fighting against it annoying but I got gripes with the knockback on the Force-a-Nature and Loose Cannon, mainly the Force-a-Nature's knockback in game feels really random where I can land a full pellet point blank shot and the enemy will move an inch but if I get grazed by a stray 3 damage shot I get sent to the other side of the map and the Loose Cannon's knockback being too strong, as the amount of times it's just completely nullified my movement is infuriating.

Shotgun jumps are technically engine jank, in the same way rocket jumps were. They used to be prominent in some early FPS, and became a staple that was intentionally left in. So in a sense it's like a callback to old tech.

I love the scotch shot, i have a kill streak one to

What viewmodel settings do you use? I like where your weapons are positioned, I’m just getting back into the game after quite a few years off haha

"fly away" reminds me of an anime made by drunk people

I’ve always thought the “Scorch” Shot should specialize in Pyro’s lesser damage method, Afterburn. What if instead of the explosive stuff and stun lock bs, we keep the knockback, but then amp up the Afterburn to the nth Degree, 10 Damage Per tick, Damages every half second instead of full second, lasts 15 seconds but loses it’s ability to mini crit. And despite firing faster, it reloads slower. Basically, making it a Molotov Cocktail Launcher!

"Extras" is a pretty good pick! I'm more of "Drift" kind of guy myself, but 3rd season Strive tracks have been pretty solid so far. Can't wait to hear what the next two will be. Friggin' love the FaN though. Definitely not as reliable as stock but the knockback and 2-tap kills are always a fun time.

I heard "non damaging utility" in the pyro section and briefly thought it was an intentional jab at the gas passer

I've always felt like a decent rework for the Scorch Shot would be to make it so it doesn't do any damage on its own other than setting whoever it hits (directly) on fire without any explosion for splash damage, but also applies a special debuff that lasts as long as they are on fire that causes them to take mini-crit damage from fire weapons. This way you'd need to actually have good aim with it and it would be a setup weapon for you to get in close with your flamethrower after tapping an opponent with your scorch shot. It could also have really good utility in other ways, such as teaming up with a second pyro to perform a combo, or even lighting an ally Sniper's huntsman so that they can do mini-crit boosted damage with their arrow on body shots.

The detonator can also clear sticky traps just so you know. (explosion only)

22:50 to feed my superiority complex!

Elphelt mention

also guys remember to always combo the loose cannon with a shield and a good (fast switch speed) melee like the stock(or the pan) because if you double donk a soldier , a minicrit from the charge will like barely kill him and stickies won't because it's easier to combo dd into charge , or just double double donk that guy

loose cannon be like: *dopamine*

17:25 as far as im aware, u can't "double-tap" enemies with the detonator, since it explodes on impact

How do you self detonate the loose cannon balls?

I feel the scorch shot's AoE size and sticky-desctruction should be given to the detonator and its own reload be slowed.

don’t forget that a pyro can double donk themselves if you time it correctly

I main loose cannon. Fun fact it can penetrate enemies. And if you are getting mini crits it will not double doink instead it'll usually do 40 to 60 dmg. It's pretty jank overall but fat doinks are worth it

Im kinda surpirsed you didnt mention you can also rocket jump with the loose cannon by cooking the cannon ball all the way till it explodes in the chamber, which is pretty useful on hybrid knight

The my fav weapons.I think knockback on all weapons is what make it so satisfying and impactful to shoot at everything.

I like to call the force a nature the "Smart Boy scattergun". Also as a pyro main I must make my point on the scorch shot: despise the well deserved fame of being a no skill weapon, I found a new love in it when I decided to play aggressive with it. There are some really cool combo potential with akin to the force a nature wall locking. If you want to spice up your game with it, I strongly recommend you to try being really aggressive with it.

ngl i absolutely despise those who are good with the loose cannon soooo much that i would instantly leave a game if i notice one

You forgot the shove

All cannon users are secretly Serious Sam fans.

i see loose cannon and just think "why are we blocking?"

playing loose cannon with shield is really good just donk them to corner and dash into them

the scorch shot 1 shots light classes with a combo and full afterburn.

ELPHELT VALENTINE REFERENCED 12:19

What if we had the scorch shot the affected by damage fall off even with mini crits?

As a demoknight I FUCKING HATE the loose cannon because it just instantly stuns me and stops my charge

scorch shot can kill sniper, engie, and scout with one hit + afterburn if they dont heal

Any nockback where you can't surf is the problem (loose cannon and scortch shot)

wait... why has nobody thought of making the scorch shot projectile slower?

the scorch shot doesnt deal mini crit afterburn. thats false. and the detonator can also destroy stickies

Knockback weapons or as I like to call them, The "Wombo Combo" guns.

How to fix the scorch shot: Remove "mini-crits burning targets" and "destroys stickies" Give the splash's fire damage falloff with distance from the flare detonating ... Maybe give it bonus damage for how many players were caught in the radius, as a treat

I actually don't also use the scorch shot almost ever despite pyro being my second most played class because it's genuinely his worse secondary. The detonator obsoletes it in almost every single way, even with the phlog. Detonator is way more consistent for building mmmph and the higher mobility is a necessity

oh god the facestab at around 12:30

You forgot the alt fire for the Shortstop.

A reference only you get? My friend i am an Elphelt main.

There should be a new flamethrower that has increased knockback/airblast and ammo in exchange for a damage and after burn reduction.

I saw the purple team on the thumbnail how do i join that in casual

Me using the Winger, Atomizer and Force a Nature (fly high little scout)

i find it strange you didn't bring up pyro flame thrower airblast

As someone who used to use the Scorch Shot quite a bit ( I switched to the Detonator and its just been so much better since then) I have never understood why the SS always knocks the enemy up when you hit them. Like... the other knockback weapons don't do that, so why does the SS? It has knock *back* not knock *up* and I think that's one of the primary reasons its so damn hated, cuz that's where the pseudo stun comes from. Its just very odd.

Fyi the detonator also removes stickies

I am a pyro main I do not use the scortch shot because i like the skillful nature and higher damage of his other flares

holy elphelt

I prefer the force of nature to the scatter gun

I got here just in time.

Reasons I, an aspiring Pyro Main, don't use the Scorch Shot: 1) The Thermal Thruster is way more fun 2) I need to learn how to aim 3) I have a painted and named Panic Attack 4) I don't like putting all my weapon eggs in one damage type basket 5) I respect the enemy team

how can you not mention loose cannon jumping

You forgor that flying mechanic with loose cannon 😢

can someone say what tts used at 2:25?

We need Raid videos on the side channel

not going to watch this video but i really like the colors for the mercs in the thumbnail