sometimes it can be hard to decide, but in the meantime, you can always upgrade your thermal paste and get immediate performance while you think about it. I recommend at least 24GB's of thermal paste. I did and I got at least another 15HP and 22lbs TQ.

Later this year will be so interesting honestly. RTX 5000 series, Battlemage, Ryzen 9000 series....I don't need a new CPU atm but a new GPU would be nice. Really crossing my fingers that Intel comes out with a kickass flagship for ARC. I would love for Nvidia to give us more performance, more VRAM and better prices, but I think we all know that just isn't happening.

I've been in the business since there was a PC business (even before that). I would have driven myself nuts had I worried about when stuff released. My standard has always been to upgrade when I need to. There is always a better deal coming down the road.

Upgrade or wait. I have been asking myself the question since 1999 ;-). Kidding. But true that in the past, I used to think like that.

I'm sticking with my 5800x3d.

I have the AMD Ryzen CPU 7800x3d 32g ram RTX 4070ti super so I will not upgrade this year. I'll probably wait three more years until I upgrade.

This channel operates at a weird schedule. 1. taking month off 2. creating tons of clips from month old stream 3. do several streams in a row Cycle repeats. That’s the only tech channel that does this 😂.

The big question will be, will zen5 actually be performing correctly before black friday.

I am one of those people with a thirteen year old sandy bridge computer, as my everyday computer. I did build a gaming computer and shared it with my partner eight years ago. I just built a new computer on the AM5 socket, because it had became too painful to use my everyday computer and my partner had taken over the gaming computer, because his computer was just as old. For playing old games they were really good enough, which is what we mostly play, but the bloat of time made everyday tasks harder. I just couldn't bring myself to build with Intel at this time knowing they are going to a new socket, so I picked a lower end AMD chip and will upgrade it when they move on to a new socket. The every day pain became too great for me to wait longer. I am looking forward to playing high end games again.

Me wait until my mobo explode 😔

I have a 1700X and this video has been a great watch, thank you for putting it together. Microcenter still has some combo deals that have me thinking about it (ex, 7700X).

Lol I got from 3770k to 12600K (early 2023). That doesn't mean I didn't have the money. The technical advancement was just very sub-optimal, so I just didn't want to spent the money. Why should I have upgraded. There was really no reason as the machine at that time already had 8 GB.

As a 7700x owner I am waiting for the last AM5 chips (10000’s?) before upgrading. I guess unless the 9000’s knock my socks off.

i say it again - for me - you are the most rational - substantive - well thought - advice tech giving yt channel and i know them all - mayby not the best in format - a la tik tok atenncion seekers - but for me it is another plus:)

I bit the bullet, upgraded from a 3770k, 1080 GTX system I built in 2012. I got the exact same 12700kf you recommended, paired with a Gigabyte Z790 D AC motherboard, the motherboard was 185.99 but is a newer motherboard from 2024, also got picked up an RTX 3080 Founders Edition from a Friend along with an 850 watt power supply. After selling my old hardware and redeeming credit card points from Amazon, I am sitting just under 700 into the full rebuild. Picked up a few other extras in that price as well.

The only thing that I need an upgrade is my CPU which is the ryzen 3 3200G paired with an rx 570 4GB, Is it worth it to upgrade now or wait a little longer for a worth it new Ryzen along the way

not sure about upgrading now or waiting, look at prices of things, bought new car tires April 2, 2 weeks later prices had increased $16 each. couple months ago bought NVMe for $86 now it is $129

new stuff comes out every year. you'll always be waiting for something new. set a price you're willing to spend and get the stuff when you can. I've had a FX8350 and GTX 960 from 2014. upgraded the gpu during covid (yea, lucky newegg lottery winner) and haven't upgraded the cpu until I ordered it last week.

Can you comment on the performance stability issues of the high end 13th and 14th gen Intel CPUs in another video? Apologies if you've already covered that topic already and apparently the fix for the issue drops performance severely.

Upgraded my R5 2600 to a 5600 and put in 3200 mhz 32gb ram as well this week. Im pretty happy with that and my 6600xt oc'd and undervolted a bit.

Fwiw, I just got an i9 12900k, mobo, and 32gb of ram for $299 @ microcenter. They're just flying off the shelves!

I love watching you guys talk you both crack me up love the channel thanks for sharing

i have the 9900k/3080ti combo. wasn't planning on upgrading but my 15 year old daughter has my old i5/2080 combo and it's starting to show it's age. So i'm upgrading..just don't know if i'm going with amd for the first time or sticking with intel. I picked up a 4070 ti super off a buddy for 680. I do gaming only at 1440p. I always pass our old pc's to vet families...so this time one of my daughters friends is getting her setup...so they can play pc games together.

Microcenter bundles make a 7800x3d build now, tempting. Their 5700x3d for $220 doesn't sound terrible either, for AM4 upgrades. If someone with an 8700k build is on a budget, with decent ram, 12700k and Asrock Z690 extreme is a great option.

I'm using a 9900k @ 5hz with 4070. ti super. Does basic video editing and 1440p gaming on ultra.

I think what you mean is don’t pay full price for the old stuff when new stuff is coming soon- wait for the “old” stuff to go on sale. If the new one is 20% better then the old one is only a good deal if it costs more than 20% less.

I bought 3900x back then on launch and waiting for 9800X3D to replace it, along with a 5080. Till then I can play on GeforceNOW if I must.

Who's buying a used 8700k for 150 bucks when you can get a 12700k for 200

pewrsonally i have 5900x and 6800xt. im waiting for 50 series and 9800x3d. all im interested in is games. specifically dcs world which is a notorious beast to drive in vr

Phenom II 4 core here.

I'll wait until end of the year and then looking forward to build new intel Z890 PC.

mmmm sandy bridge... good stuff

Also as far as buying memory remember that you need to check the motherboard list of verified kits. If you are running only 2 dimms you can get up to 8000mhz ddr5 memory up to 64gb on the asrock Nova. If you are populating all 4 dimm slots and you want more memory storage like 128 gb up to 196gb it is going to default to a much lower speed.

Upgrading from i5 8400 budget 1500 should I wait for arrow lake or get am5?

I recently upgraded a colleague's pc due support for windows 10 ending next year and windows 11 requiring a platform with tpm 2.0. i7-4770 to a 5600, DDR3 to DDR4, HDD to nvme and motherboard. Total cost price 290 euro's. The performance bump is just staggering across the board. I thought about a zen 4 upgrade, but felt it was a tad costly for what she was looking for and instead settled for zen 3. I am recommending zen 4 for a completely new build, as even though the platform is more expensive, you can go without a GPU if gaming is not the goal. Getting the money back that way. All in all, if you have a PC that is still booting off a HDD, the upgrade to a platform with a nvme drive will absolutely be worth the money.

Will you unlock your twitter in the future? I usually look at your posts but i cant anymore

Upgraded from the 8700k last week without having seen this, though I'm subscribed. I did not need to buy a GPU, monitors, or storage which helped a lot so I was able to splurge in other areas. Upgraded to a 13700k with an Arctic liquid freezer III 360,64g ddr5 cl30 6000mhz. I game in 1440p on an ultrawide. Very much so still GPU bound with a 3080 ftw3 ultra so my frames haven't increased by much. The responsiveness is very nice , and it's cool seeing the CPU load shaders pretty quickly by comparison under pretty low load and temps. I feel though that I could have sat on that 8700k a generation or two longer though. The difference isn't that crazy for a 1440p gamer and I don't have enough of a workload to make use of it entirely. Mixed feelings about my decision.

I came from Core2duo, then i7 3770k, then R7 5700x itx build last Nov 2022. I decided to upgraded to 5800x3D this March 2024 and rebuilt my 5700x to serve as my 2nd rig. I still went for AM4 platform because going to AM5 will cost me more here in my country. Next platform upgrade will be on 2030, for me.

i have 5900x on a strix b550f, NHD-15, 64gb 3600 ram, and 6800 xt phantom. i'm good for the forseeable future or until the pc doesnt serve my needs anymore. and my currently build is overkill. my next build will be the equivalent of what i have now at the current gen of that future time if budget allows. i would like to try intel build next time but i know it will be costly. i will be back to your channel before next build for recommendations and the lovely benchmarks lol.

I still have one of these on my second computer which my wife uses, but she doesn't do anything else than look at facebook, edge and emails. So what is the point of upgrading at this moment.

Recent went from i5 12400f to a new in box i7 12700k i found for 185 ducks! Massive upgrade in teh games i play, I play milsims and strategy games and they need a fast CPU with a lotta cores. And PC feels much quicker in windows as well.

Have a 12900k & 3070ti, pushing 1080p high graphics and TSR high (no nanite and rt though) getting 120fps in fortnite. I'd love to keep the settings but get as close to 240fps as possible (monitor is ASUS TUF VG259QM - running 240hz & 8bit+FRC). I'm good at games but not world class so I like nice graphics even with the impact to PC latency. Current CPU usage is about 50-60% in game. Do you think if I keep the 12900k and just upgrade the GPU to a 5080 I will get CPU bottlenecking and not make full use of the GPU? I'm not opposed to a whole new build, but if I could get away with just the GPU + power supply that would be good. Your channel is the best! Literally the holy grail of reliable information on PC builds for all budgets! Apologies about the super long comment btw🙏.

My system is a 14 year old AMD Phenom X6 from 2010. I don't game so I haven't needed to upgrade. But looking in the next year to build a new small form computer.

3:31 Can the upcoming Intel 15900k processor potentially replicate the success and impact of the Sandy Bridge microarchitecture, or would it be more prudent to opt for the AMD Zen5 R9 processor based on the 3nm process technology?

im upgrading to a ryzen 7 7800x3d and a 4060 ti. i hope i get that wow factor. im looking to play 1080p fortnite performance mode with 360hz.

I have 12600k/rx6800/3070 and was thinking about what an upgrade path could be but I can still play at 1440p high settings 60+fps in pretty much any game even without upscaling, so upgrading is actually pointless

Kinda hope the 9950x has a 3d version where one of the chiplets has more than 8 cores

Not a bad time to buy if you want inexpensive CPU like Ryzen 7600 and basic 120USD motherboard. It will not be that much cheaper in a few months. Pair it with USED! 3060/12GB and check the GPU market in a year.

Love this channel, please keep up the great content

I went from an Intel i7 7700k to an i7 12700k when Alderlake came out and I most certainly noticed a MASSIVE difference in performance , I sold my I7 7700k computer and used the money towards buying a new computer as soon as Alderlake came out , not once did I regret that upgrade it was HUGE !!!! to say the least :)

Upgraded from an i7 8700k to a ryzen 7700x. Wow upgrade if I use it like a console but using it like a pc it's better but more cores would be noticeably better

tech please speak on the new snapdragon x chip which is supposed to compete with macs and it has a NPU which you can monitor in task manager , also speak on which thermal paste to replace on cpu/gpu because thats such a cheap thing to replace and it can increase performance just by decreasing thermals,

There's always new stuff coming out around the corner. Easy enough to build a system at any time to perform fine for 5-6 years without upgrade if you research & do it right. My 2019 1080p R7-3700X 32GB AM4 build still does great at 1080p gaming today. My recent 2024 1440p gaming/productivity R9-7900 64GB AM5 build will perform just fine for the next 5+ years as well for 1440p gaming & productivity tasks.

Re Meteor Lake, I am using Core Ultra 165U on the Surface Pro 10 and so far it has been great.

i5-3470 , gtx 960 (2gb) and 8gb ram >.> procrastingating to buy a new one for ove half a decade waiting for the next gen every year ... well monster hunter wilds is coming out so by the end of the year hopefully il have new things

i got 32gb ddr5 at 4800 back in the day for 200€‎ and i feel sad that its so cheap now

Need advice. I have a Ryzen 7 3700x + RX 5700XT and want to be able to play on my ultra wide 34” 1440p/165hz monitor. I want to stick with AMD. Should I wait and build new or just upgrade my GPU?

Nice compare and contrast vid! Appreciate you posting this. I'm running Microcenter purchased $300 NEW on sale CPU I7-6700K (Skylake, 14nm) w/ 32GB DDR4 GEIL Hynix w/ XMP ON (4x8gb sticks. CL15-17-17 D4-3000), RX480 8GB GDDR5 (Polaris), M.2 1TB, and some spinning rust as well, on an MSI Z170a SLI PLUS Motherboard. Air cooled everything. I'll probably be waiting for either the newer CPU's to pricedrop or deep sale, or for super sale of the next gen Intel cpu end of this year or next... Most of my motherboards are intel 1151's, may just get the fastest 1151 socket I7 that'll fit in one of these boards... Working on 1st NAS for use and backups, etc. as well Long time subbed, watch all your vids, keep up the great vids both of y'all!!

guys when will yuh b doing live stream 😢😮

Im upgrading this year/next with a 9800 cpu and a 5090. Im coming from a 1080ti and i7/7700k. 😅

Hey, the prices here are a bit different from the US and it's honestly the most confusing choice as of right now between cpus. I can get a 12700KF or 5700X3D for $268 (K version is $50 more), a 13600K for $330, a 14600K for $366 or a Ryzen 7 7700 for $283 but the point is I kind of want to keep as much as possible. The thing is my AIO only fits AM5(Thank you AMD) and my ram only fits LGA1700(Thank you Intel). The next point is maybe I should go with AM4 instead since motherboards are so cheap? I can get a 5950X for $400 + a good motherboard or a 5900X for $285 + a good motherboard but I don't know if that'll be the smartest choice. Although, I'd still be able to reuse both my ram and aio cooler on that. I'll be upgrading to a 3080 from a friend next month. The very last choice is a Ryzen 5 7500F, 12600K and 5700X cost $187 each but I'm not sure about this option since I want to keep it for as long as possible. I've got an 8700K but I know it lacks in newer games and I do have a dual monitor setup(I'll get a third soon as well). I plan to upgrade to 1440P at some point in the future. Sorry for the long text but I'm really confused to which platform I should go for and which would serve me the best. The AM4 platform is the cheapest along side the 12700KF build. Oh, I play a couple of newer games like Call of Duty and Helldivers II. Thank you for reading this and your time. ^^

I tend to upgrade when really good deals &/stock levels are reached. Am at a point, I think I'm set for a while. Maybe drop in upgrade 14700K if issues are solved for i7/i9s for gaming (should also be cheap once core ultra comes out). AM5 would be tempting if AMD comes out with an all 3D vcache 8950X3D or whatever, that would be a dream but it doesn't exist yet.

He said at one point if u have a 8700k its time to upgrade......i have the funds to upgrade my cpu to a 13600k along with mobo, ssd, and new case but my current build includes a gigabyte 4090 along with my 8700k. Playing all my games (primarily company of heroes 3) at 4k resolution getting over 120 fps. Should i wait for intels new cpu's or make the purchase now or just chug along with my trusty 8700k?

im still on 8700k/RTX3070, Warzone cheats killed the vibes to even care to upgrade anymore. I think many will update when things start to fail lol.

I guess its time to upgrade my ZX Spectrum 128k 😂

Recently build new PC. Very happy for the next 3-4 years CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D GPU: ASUS RTX 4070 SUPER DUAL 12 GB RAM: G. Skill Trident Z5 NEO RGB, 2x16GB 6000Mhz, CL30 - DDR5 M2 Nvme #1: Samsung 1 TB 990 Pro M2 Nvme #2: Kingston 1 TB, NV2 MOBO: Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX PSU: Corsair 80 PLUS Gold, RM850X CPU C: Artic Liquid Freezer III 360 A-RGB (Black) OS: Win 11 Pro CASE: Be Quiet! Midi Tower Pure Base Black 500DX

But I still have the RX 590 with my 1800X! Shouldn't I just sell it as a working machine and build a new PC? I've got 32GB of DDR4 RAM and 650W PSU. Thanks in advance.

Don't forget to LIKE the video

Definately waiting for the Intel Alchemist and Celestial GPUs. I'd tell people to hold off 13th and 14th gen Intel CPUs for sure. Get the cheapest 8 core 10th or 12th gen as a stop gap.

AMD R2600 and a etc 2080, still not really interested until something breaks. I use my steam deck like 70% of the time and gave up multiplayer gaming so it’s really no big deal.

I am waiting on Intel 18a CPU

I'm rocking Ivybridge if it isn't broken I will not fix it. Wish I waited the 5 months for Ryzen( because my upgrade path died almost Immediately) but It got me downloading and playing games and because I don't play AAA or the latest or greatest games and willing to play on medium I'm good but I am in the market for a 300ish GPU.....for me, it's all about utility same reason I won't buy the current console. I don't have time to play games that often and consoles can't do anything but game. I don't work online so Impressive core count/performance to me=beans

Hey guys, so I just purchased and built a Intel system using the 14th gen i7 14700k, the Nvidia RTX4080 Super and 32gb of G.Skill Trident Zrgb 6400mhz running on a Asrock Z790 Nova wifi 7. I upgraded from the i7 8700k 16gb 3000mhz corsair memory and a 1080ti. I can honestly say it is a nice upgrade according to benchmarks. As far as gaming, it is a nice bump in fps but other than Ray tracing which really bogs down a card. I honestly could have kept the 8700k 1080ti running another 2 years if I had just upgraded my memory to 32gb instead of the 16 I had. This is running on a 34" 3400x1440p monitor that was running ultra in games like far cry 5 and 6 maybe 75-90. Another thing to really consider that you don't hear much about when considering a new pc is the intel 12th-14gen is extremely hot especially running benchmarks. The motherboard manufacturers are running their own optimized default bios settings that are pushing a 1.4 vcore and my i7 14700k is pushing over 380 watts which no standard aio can cool even 360mm aio's are hitting 100c and having the cpu throttle the clocks down. Intel needs to force their default voltages and settings like amd does at least for the default bios. It really sucks to have such a powerful processor burn itself alive because mobo vendors want to get higher benchmarks or run higher ram speeds. Until Intel and the motherboard partners fix these issues I would say wait and see what is coming out in 9 months. Or check out AMD for the time being. The last AMD I owned was the Phenom 2 lol so maybe check them out. 😢 Intel, fix your sh!+.

We optimize, and we wait.

i swapped 5 2600 to 5 5600x and 1060 to 3060 12GB, i dont think its worth to wait for these parts to get cheaper

Always right answer ( unless mining crysis or import ban) Newer is always faster ,if not urgently need that , just wait I Need vs I Want

Wait, next video 😄

Always wait for next year. Theres way better parts coming out ive been waiting for 10 years.

The 7800x3d is actually RISING in price bc it's so popular. I think it will hold it's value fine if you want to replace it down the line. Also you never know how pricing and availability is going to be on the new gens, since CPU mining is now a thing. Also if the middle east war heats up you may very well be waiting forever or paying 2x msrp for stuff. You're recommending intel anything, really? Ok bro. 😂 Edit: the x3d variants which gamers want are not going to drop with the rest of zen 5. Theyre going to drop towards the tail end of 2024 maybe even early 2025

hehe i think the 12700kfs singlecores better then the Multi on the 860K ^^ or frankly even 2600k/4790k^^ turn off ALL bit ONE core on the 12700 and you still run faster then a 860k/2600k 😅

Wait ✋️, Intel 15xxx /AMD zen 5 and RTX50XX is just around the corner ; I will be going from 10900k to 15900k or AMD R9 .

I am hoping for a Ryzen 9 9900x in the future and that the 9000 series lineup would bump up the core counts. Like for Ryzen 5 being 8 cores, Ryzen 7 being 12 cores, and Ryzen 9 being 16 and 24 cores. Or they could go with that C Core route, who knows.

always upgrade now

If i have money i will do it right away LOL!

Wait....wait.....wait....till IT IS to late!😂

i have two friends that have 3rd gen i5

Never upgrade your PC. There's a big beautiful world out there waiting to be discovered. Go outside and live your life.

I have an r7 5800x3d and a 3080 10g , I'll keep my cpu for another couple of years , I'm tempted to buy a 5080 when they release but I'm not desperate as nvidia frame generation can be modded into games and amd frame generation is natively supported I think my 3080 is good for a while , the only potential issue is the 10gb of vram.

Will we ever get an answer to the Athlon x4 860k best pairing GPU question??? You spent over 2 min saying why it should be recycled without answering the question asked. We all have an old computer in the closet, I was genuinely waiting for an answer.

Don't knock my i7-920.

New Idea. BE QUIET, childrens muzzle. With RGB. Really cuts the DB's.

Why not upgrade to Ryzen 4 because when Ryzen 5 comes out, it'll command high prices due to high demand 😂.

Your dilemma as a youtube computer content creator is, your channel flourishes when people upgrade and in the last 3 years or so, tech advances have been more incremental. You want to promote upgrading even though it isn't in the best interest of the public. When AI starts to pick up momentum, there will be a much greater need for computing power....or when videos games become more immersive and even interactive in 3D. That time isn't now.

No, there is so much change going on. Maybe a upgrade gpu if yours is less than 2 or 4 gb. We are going to see a dramatic change in the 2025 to 2027 time frame. I am staying the course.

Tech, respectfully, I think your personal use case may get in the way of your audience’s questions. You guys laughed at the Athlon 860k guy, because “you’re a premium kinda guy and I like premium levels of performance”, so instead your recommendation was to replace with a 12700k. Dude, he wants to help someone out with a Roblox machine. The 860k exceeds the recommended for Roblox. Your viewer may be trying to avoid putting more electronics into a landfill, and may be planning on giving the machine away to someone that can barely make rent. What they needed to be told was to buy a used GPU locally and congratulate for trying to repurpose an old machine. There are MANY use cases out there that don’t need your perceived level of snappiness. If “Tech Deals” is the spirit of the channel, what better deal than minimal cost to meet the use case? You guys are entertaining to watch. Bring back the benchmarks!

Dude, you need to bring back some benchmarks like you used did, it would be much more interesting. I'm sorry.

Clearly wait. Life its slow af

No don't waste money if it not necessary

im on a i5 2500k oc and rx 580. i play fortnite at 1080p performance mode 144hz with minimal stuttering.

Before i even watch this video. I got a computer on my left that needs a GPU, it hasnt had a gpu ever before as the pc is brand new. On my right i got a PC thats my main pc and its complete. I will need two pcs for work related business and i cant for the ever living fuck decide on which Nvidia gpu to buy. Yeah it needs to be Nvidia, i dont like it but it has to.