I found the Perfect Keyboard for programming (170 wpm typing speed)

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@TechLead
@TechLead 4 жыл бұрын
[update] Also check out my "Top Mouse for Programmers" video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m7-la6arxqzdnYk.html (This video wasn't sponsored for a fair review.) 👨‍💻 Join ex-Google/ex-Facebook engineers for my coding interview training: techinterviewpro.com/ Check the description for links to all keyboards.
@aadeshdeshmukh5275
@aadeshdeshmukh5275 4 жыл бұрын
Make video for monitors too!
@adamya1639
@adamya1639 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you will see this but the apex pro has customisable actuation point too. it goes down to 1 mm, it is actually the second fastest actuating keyboard in the world.
@amerdelic8710
@amerdelic8710 4 жыл бұрын
Check out DasKeyboard 4 w/brown switches.
@hrlrl9309
@hrlrl9309 4 жыл бұрын
WE NEED A SYNTAX COLORING REVIEW
@mrkarasyov
@mrkarasyov 4 жыл бұрын
Keyboard selection is very limited. In the comments people mentioned other models. We need more top PRO keyboards to compare because it is essential tool for PRO programmers.
@harrybanda
@harrybanda 4 жыл бұрын
Which one will copy code faster from Stackoverflow
@mushyclicks2028
@mushyclicks2028 4 жыл бұрын
I think u should start looking for a mouse
@michaelhoffmann2891
@michaelhoffmann2891 4 жыл бұрын
@@mushyclicks2028 Real Stackoverflow Copy-Pasters Don't Use Mouse. That's why they're so leet. ;)
@michaelhoffmann2891
@michaelhoffmann2891 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-qz9ji Of everything! CPU! SSD! Internet! Quantum Computing! Even Microsoft FS 2020 at Ultra! :D
@saatvik1585
@saatvik1585 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭
@lolerie
@lolerie 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-qz9ji remember that razer chroma is best but you will have to use some oil on middle button.
@1russoturisto
@1russoturisto 3 жыл бұрын
I wish the speed of my fingers was the bottleneck in my coding ...
@bradarnett8632
@bradarnett8632 3 жыл бұрын
I don't honestly think that the speed of my fingers was ever the bottleneck in ANYTHING I've done with a computer. None of those keyboards (except the MX keys) are boards I think I would ever want to use as a programmer. I prefer boards with a bit more utility than off the shelf gamer boards. The Logitech MX line (mouse and keyboard) are legitimately pretty amazing for the software if nothing else, but Logitech screwed up by not making it a mechanical. Pity.
@pariahchild2K
@pariahchild2K 3 жыл бұрын
Lol - if only I could code like they do in the movies... :D
@alicenien5015
@alicenien5015 3 жыл бұрын
I have never written code. But I am a very fast typist. I used to write reports for my previous companies and the keyboards I have used made all the difference.
@errvega2705
@errvega2705 3 жыл бұрын
@@alicenien5015 did u use TeX?
@JohnRick
@JohnRick 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradarnett8632 have you seen Keychrons keyboards? They have best of both worlds plus loads of functionality
@darkpotato6577
@darkpotato6577 3 жыл бұрын
*this man takes “RGB makes you faster” seriously*
@zilliq
@zilliq 3 жыл бұрын
That's untrue, he said "RGB will inspire you", which is as dumb a take as "makes you faster" though
@pluto8404
@pluto8404 3 жыл бұрын
@@zilliq humans are dumb and are drawn to shinny things, thus rgb is actually good. Would you be more motivated if your work office was in a ghetto, or on the top floor of a luxury skyscraper? In the latter, one would be more willing to get up early and head into the office increasing productivity.
@Noel3078
@Noel3078 3 жыл бұрын
@@pluto8404 well in the first one you have a reason to work yourself out of there I guess :D
@pluggothesluggo5509
@pluggothesluggo5509 2 жыл бұрын
@@pluto8404 all i'm really taking from this comment is "just buya keyboard that you think looks good lel"
@theredturtle4471
@theredturtle4471 2 жыл бұрын
it was satirical
@YanasChanell
@YanasChanell 3 жыл бұрын
1:35 Standart Apple Magic Keyboard 2:58 Razer Huntsman 5:06 Logitech MX Keys 7:21 Razer Huntsman Tournament Edition 9:09 SteelSeries Apex Pro 12:01 Logitech G915
@Joker-jz9cn
@Joker-jz9cn 3 жыл бұрын
The Logitech G915 is loud when you're clicking
@-Jakob-
@-Jakob- 2 жыл бұрын
Apple has nothing to do with art
@islamibrahim8121
@islamibrahim8121 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a version of the g915 that doesn't rattle?
@Spacemonkeymojo
@Spacemonkeymojo 2 жыл бұрын
Legend.
@HARISHAANVLOGS
@HARISHAANVLOGS 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes the standart apple magic keyboard, fairly standart but starting off strong, have a nice day standart Yana T
@JR-mk6ow
@JR-mk6ow 4 жыл бұрын
I'll just take the one that's tears-proof
@solidwaterslayer
@solidwaterslayer 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get it. Tears from coding?
@kevinliu5060
@kevinliu5060 4 жыл бұрын
@@solidwaterslayer Must be lol
@dacherx
@dacherx 4 жыл бұрын
wrap it in saran wrap?
@simplysaycheese
@simplysaycheese 4 жыл бұрын
Tears from depression?
@MoonlytSonata023
@MoonlytSonata023 4 жыл бұрын
Use a keyboard with Kailh box switches. It's rated for IP58. None of your tears or maybe coffee splash will ever get inside of the switches. lol
@hanscesa5678
@hanscesa5678 4 жыл бұрын
When a millionaire says it is expensive, it is expensive.
@judahhays189
@judahhays189 4 жыл бұрын
Although wealthy people tend to be very careful with their spending so not really...
@codingwithbobby8340
@codingwithbobby8340 4 жыл бұрын
@@judahhays189 Grahpham Stephan has entered the chat
@ver_nick
@ver_nick 3 жыл бұрын
@@judahhays189 *MrBeast left the chat*
@meatyyeet3611
@meatyyeet3611 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao u obviously don't know the custom keyboard community
@harsh9558
@harsh9558 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah lol
@darkpotato6577
@darkpotato6577 3 жыл бұрын
“you can put it in your backpack and take it to the cafe” *I do not want to spill coffee on a $220 keyboard*
@nkristianschmidt
@nkristianschmidt 3 жыл бұрын
well, maybe if it's expensive coffee
@mirandaperry5245
@mirandaperry5245 3 жыл бұрын
Right!
@lynneftw
@lynneftw 3 жыл бұрын
Don't spill your coffee ☕ then.
@Gavolak
@Gavolak 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video about the most comfortable chair to sit in for 8 hours every day.
@HargunSV
@HargunSV 3 жыл бұрын
get a cushion for your tailbone, helps relieve a lot of pressure
@acehilm7470
@acehilm7470 3 жыл бұрын
herman miller
@rashadarbab2769
@rashadarbab2769 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what those kneeling chairs are like. Surely they can’t be good for your knees.
@ferris387
@ferris387 3 жыл бұрын
Herman Miller Aeron hands down
@FlasRoose
@FlasRoose 3 жыл бұрын
@@rashadarbab2769 nah them things are no good for sitting longer than an hour a day. Also I guarantee you after a good month of using that knee chair you'll develop health problems in your legs
@leovin00
@leovin00 4 жыл бұрын
“So I can do 150 wpm with this but it’s not enough...” Me: cries in 50 wpm
@juanbalderas612
@juanbalderas612 4 жыл бұрын
i can only do 35wpm
@itsmimic007
@itsmimic007 4 жыл бұрын
I can do only 60😭
@michaelhoffmann2891
@michaelhoffmann2891 4 жыл бұрын
I never even knew WPM matters when writing code. How many words does a typical Python list comprehension constitute?
@shubhamkumar-wn2gj
@shubhamkumar-wn2gj 4 жыл бұрын
mine 40wpm 😞
@styloverte1163
@styloverte1163 4 жыл бұрын
@michael It definitely matters. When I'm helping a coworker who's a slow typer or can't touch type, I want to throw them out of their chair and type it for them.
@gamaverse
@gamaverse 4 жыл бұрын
I use Windows 10's on-screen keyboard. It's free. No RGB, though.
@devhypercoder6772
@devhypercoder6772 4 жыл бұрын
You paid for your mouse.. haha. Or do you have a touch screen
@KeepAnOpenMind
@KeepAnOpenMind 4 жыл бұрын
There are always “rgb” in pixels of your screen where your screen keyboard is
@creation7287
@creation7287 4 жыл бұрын
@@KeepAnOpenMind yep. I too love black rgb
@j17747
@j17747 4 жыл бұрын
@@KeepAnOpenMind No those are red, green, blue subpixels. RGB is the high tech external lighting that comes on pro programmer computer hardware.
@msinha0
@msinha0 4 жыл бұрын
171 wph
@JohnWolfy
@JohnWolfy 3 жыл бұрын
"With great sensitivity comes great typos". - TechLead.
@gabs0r
@gabs0r 3 жыл бұрын
07:00 RGB makes you feel like a rock star programmer ;) Best remark ever on RGB lights....!
@EvertvanIngen
@EvertvanIngen 3 жыл бұрын
1:08 "The keyboard is the way we interact with the world" I felt that one
@dannykth1
@dannykth1 3 жыл бұрын
You look like Seth Rogan
@juljasmah
@juljasmah 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannykth1 you look like Lion
@andresllinas8594
@andresllinas8594 4 жыл бұрын
Millionaire normal people: I'll buy a car and jewels Millionaire programmers: Buys a dozen fancy keyboards
@ThienPowChong
@ThienPowChong 4 жыл бұрын
normal ppl: show off RPM programmr: show off WPM
@martinlutherkingjr.5582
@martinlutherkingjr.5582 4 жыл бұрын
Jewels? Wtf
@DrGodzirra
@DrGodzirra 4 жыл бұрын
Fancy keyboards... dont look into custom mechanical keyboards then...
@thallium54
@thallium54 4 жыл бұрын
IMO those keyboards are pretty bad looking.
@dogelife7901
@dogelife7901 4 жыл бұрын
I can type 35 WPM with no errors on my 24K Gold Keyboard.
@codejunkie123
@codejunkie123 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for a solid, informed review on keyboards, based around typing! Most reviews assume a keyboard is used to play games and wish to turn my desk into a disco... I found this very informative and thought out thankyou!
@CD-vb9fi
@CD-vb9fi Жыл бұрын
RGB is not a gimmick... If you are looking for the best "biology wise" then red backlit is best. Especially if you can get the RED in wavelengths that is near infrared because those colors are used in eye recovery therapies. Certain blue light, which white often contains will damage your eyes. Plus Red light impacts circadian rhythm far less than blue light does.
@ApexierGS
@ApexierGS 4 жыл бұрын
TLDR he likes 2.5mm key travel as opposed to 4.0mm standard, 50grams of force on a switch, and a linear switch type. That is HIS perfect keyboard, you might have different preferences, so following his recommendations might be disappointing to you. That's why the market has different switch types (linear tactile or clicky), spring forces (35g - 90g), and key-travel (2.5, 3.6, 4.0mm), to match everyone's particular tastes. P.S also brands Cherry, Gateron, Kailh, Otemu, Greetech (Razer), TTC (Xiaomi)
@alexklein278
@alexklein278 4 жыл бұрын
Tech lead : I have 800$ dollars worth of keyboards r/mechanicalkeyboards: .... So only one kb?
@sakurakos88
@sakurakos88 4 жыл бұрын
That's almost the price for just a GMK keycap set like Mizu lmao
@imoscared
@imoscared 3 жыл бұрын
Ruben Sousa are you sure about that
@jacksmile6669
@jacksmile6669 3 жыл бұрын
@@sakurakos88 yeah that's like way overblown (unless you're talking about the aftermarket that is)
@sakurakos88
@sakurakos88 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacksmile6669 yes in mechmarket
@dimedriver
@dimedriver 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and two of them are logitech junk. The apple keyboard is not great. What no full mechanicals?
@theflyingacorn915
@theflyingacorn915 3 жыл бұрын
I’m just now getting into mechanical keyboards. You made it really easy for me to understand some of the differences between the keyboards. 😃
@CatsAndBooksHoarder
@CatsAndBooksHoarder 3 жыл бұрын
I love how analytical and thorough your review videos are!!!!
@jgbalboa
@jgbalboa 2 жыл бұрын
NOT!
@TrueGrantsta
@TrueGrantsta 4 жыл бұрын
What an awesome keyboard comparison. Straight to the issues that matter. As well as reporting on short term typing speeds, and long-term comfort. None of those stupid slow-pans, generic music soundtracks, and wasting time reading stuff from the spec sheets.
@rfrancois7490
@rfrancois7490 4 жыл бұрын
7:00 "...it's late at night and you're tired and you just need that extra boost of inspiration and confidence thats' going to make you feel like a rockstar programmer " ah you're so right ! it is exactly what I look for with these keyboards !
@NomadicBrian
@NomadicBrian 4 жыл бұрын
You mean parsing raw data in Clojure is not inspiration enough?
@patrickgae6820
@patrickgae6820 3 жыл бұрын
In most cases your speed is not the bottleneck in coding. It propably is the code itself especially when coding while thinking 😉
@itsmith32
@itsmith32 9 ай бұрын
For sure! But when your code or your message breaks upon your uncomfortable and byggy typocal keyboard it gets clear how important this interface is.
@paulgerg6879
@paulgerg6879 2 жыл бұрын
You really do the best reviews for Coders! Please never stop this channel.
@drewnythecompsciguy5877
@drewnythecompsciguy5877 4 жыл бұрын
*Roasts tech reviewers* .... a few days later: TechLead: "Now what we're doing today is a showdown between the top keyboards...."
@rebelprogrammer9113
@rebelprogrammer9113 4 жыл бұрын
exactly ...
@JaY-fs4rd
@JaY-fs4rd 4 жыл бұрын
Tech reviewers don't review keyboards.
@TamashiiDoku
@TamashiiDoku 4 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure it's intentional
@warkentien2
@warkentien2 4 жыл бұрын
On the roast video, he said: "if tech reviewers were comparing keyboards, people would be hyped about keyboards." Basically lifestyle marketing 101.
@csvarona
@csvarona 4 жыл бұрын
The review style is actually of good quality. Focused on actual functionality and targeted audience. IMO.
@infernoz585
@infernoz585 4 жыл бұрын
Just wait until he discovers r/mechanicalkeyboard. "How I built a Mechanical Keyboard (as a Millionaire)
@mattwaters9008
@mattwaters9008 4 жыл бұрын
What is the appeal of mechanical keyboards? seems they are just noisier
@xander_allen
@xander_allen 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Waters you would only get noisier keyboards if you choose noisier switches. Membrane keyboards are normally louder than boards that don’t use clicky switches. You should see how quiet some people get their boards to be. The main appeal of mech keyboards besides them being a much higher quality is that you can personalize them however you like. You can choose switches that will wake up half the neighborhood, or you could go the more silent route. If you want your keystrokes to take minimal effort then you can do that, or you can choose to need a firm push in order to activate each key. The possibilities are pretty endless especially when you consider that every single key can be personalized to be completely different in a mech board. The scary part is how lost you can get in researching and customizing mech boards lol. I’ve only been talking about the switches instead of the numerous other factors including keycaps, plate material, stabilizers, and of course the almighty rgb; each of these factors and the many that I didn’t list can drastically affect the overall experience of using your mech board. I would suggest taking some time to look at r/mechanicalkeyboards to learn more and find out what you would like in a mech board.
@mattwaters9008
@mattwaters9008 4 жыл бұрын
@@xander_allen thanks. That was pretty informative.
@xander_allen
@xander_allen 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Waters np
@timurabdurasulov7442
@timurabdurasulov7442 4 жыл бұрын
r/mk is for morons, r/ck is for true customs
@ronniek4539
@ronniek4539 Жыл бұрын
To offer another perspective after watching this review, I bought the Logitech and after a couple years of use, I have to say I was really struggling with it. Over long periods of writing transcriptions, my fingers get fatigued as the actuation force is quite high, and I never got used to it. I'm a woman so I have smaller hands, and that could honestly be the reason, but I would definitely discourage other people from getting the same one if they want to type for extended periods of time. Furthermore, after about a year of strenuous use, the keyboard's N key broke, and about once every five times, it would press the letter twice (or skip it entirely.)
@MilMike
@MilMike Жыл бұрын
thanks.... I just wanted to get this keyboard but it seems no to be as good. Maybe nowadays there are better keyboards.
@cranes2726
@cranes2726 Жыл бұрын
curious what keyboard are you using now? thanks
@ronniek4539
@ronniek4539 Жыл бұрын
@@cranes2726 For me it was important to get a keyboard that would have a very low actuation force so that over time my hand didn't get fatigued and slow me down. Right now I'm using the Razer Hunstman mini with purple keys and I've never had issues with it.
@leowtyx
@leowtyx Жыл бұрын
@@MilMike it depends on if you think 50g actuation force is high for your use
@primorock8141
@primorock8141 3 жыл бұрын
My first TechLead video, didn't know what I got myself into but I'm glad I did😂
@CraigalFun
@CraigalFun 3 жыл бұрын
He's addictive
@the_quizzler
@the_quizzler 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for, "Top Programming Mouse Pads for 2020 (as a Millionaire)."
@dogelife7901
@dogelife7901 4 жыл бұрын
mousepad is the foundation of all your movement, don't go into battle unprepared.
@fabletalegames2861
@fabletalegames2861 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment
@Sm00thieK
@Sm00thieK 3 жыл бұрын
He isn't a millionaire.
@jfaquinojr
@jfaquinojr 3 жыл бұрын
Flat clicker
@opensourcerer9927
@opensourcerer9927 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned all of them. My daily driver is currently the MX Keys, I preordered the G915 TKL but was pretty disappointed, nothing wrong with the keyboard itself - had higher expectations, lacking USB-C etc. Not to mention, I find RGB distracting when programming so I’d personally recommend MX Keys for the average developer / user, they even released a Mac version a few weeks ago.
@aebek1413
@aebek1413 2 жыл бұрын
does it make your finger tired after few weeks of working as the reviewer said
@hesipege
@hesipege 3 жыл бұрын
This video was very helpful. Thanks very much for taking the time to post this. I'm not a gamer but I am a Mac user looking for a keyboard with more "depth" or a more solid tactile feedback so to speak. And the "Rockstar" factor you mentioned is one of the more subtle, subjective areas which is really valid. I fully agree with you there. Thanks again!
@jaelee1368
@jaelee1368 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a little surprised by this review. As a professional programmer for years, I’ve relied on ergonomic keyboards and mice for work. Gaming keyboards are fine for gaming, but coding in an office environment needs more productivity focused keyboards.
@jillting1852
@jillting1852 2 жыл бұрын
So which keyboard u use?
@kenmtb
@kenmtb 2 жыл бұрын
@@jillting1852 For non gaming, One with tactile switches, low profile. Check out Logitech K840 to start. The G815 (lit) is nice if you like a lower profile but the shifted characters are not lit.
@jmvasquez2312
@jmvasquez2312 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenmtb would you recommend k840 for excel work? Need a keyboard perfect for excel
@kenmtb
@kenmtb 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmvasquez2312 The k840 IMO is a great KB for excel or general typing. It is no nonsense with a standard layout. You can choose your key switches also. I got the cherry brown keys and liked it. I currently am testing a Das Keyboard with Brown switches. It is amazing and I feel it is even better than the 840. The drawback is some of the keys feel a bit scratchy which is surprising considering the cost. They may wear in.
@ipedros7
@ipedros7 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmvasquez2312 the Logitech are great. I use wireless and went with the K520, now k540, with their M310 mouse set. The mouse is ambidextrous so can be used with either hand - I use mouse left hand. I especially like the keyboard as its got a number of multimedia keys for sound, video and web. I especially like the calculator key which I'm forever using. Decent amount of key travel, smooth and quiet enough key presses. No backlighting though (though for me, its white only I ever use in other keyboards). Price-wise its also pretty affordable. I've recommended this set and they've come back with very positive comments.
@VinhNguyen-fh8qp
@VinhNguyen-fh8qp 4 жыл бұрын
This man just said the craziest thing ive heard "Huntsman is my budget pick"
@muzk8887
@muzk8887 4 жыл бұрын
“...as a millionaire”
@KiyomiTakada
@KiyomiTakada 4 жыл бұрын
Huntsman is actually the cheapest out of his stash there...
@hampustornros
@hampustornros 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait until this guy hears about $250-350 custom keyboards being a "budget" pick.
@muzk8887
@muzk8887 3 жыл бұрын
@Arturo Ochoa gateron switches just as good.
@gt7984
@gt7984 3 жыл бұрын
Got a slightly used one for 55€, pretty damn cheap
@rayll8579
@rayll8579 3 жыл бұрын
I bought all the keyboards you mentioned above, I love G915 best!
@ch3m1c
@ch3m1c 3 жыл бұрын
Logitech MX Keys is hands down best keyboard from my point of view :) If they would only create a TKL version of it as well.. I've used different keyboards for 25 years... stuck with Apple keyboard for the past 10+ years after I found MX keys. The biggest problem for EU programmers/gamers is actually availability of different layouts than US - we want Nordic layout!
@gradientO
@gradientO 2 жыл бұрын
They had launched MX mini
@ch3m1c
@ch3m1c 2 жыл бұрын
@@gradientO actually moved to Logitech G915 TKL (white) and loving it.. friend bought that new MX mini and likes it as well 👌
@VideoGamesExtras
@VideoGamesExtras 2 жыл бұрын
@@ch3m1c should I get the mx keys or the g915 tkl?
@ch3m1c
@ch3m1c 2 жыл бұрын
@@VideoGamesExtras do you want mechanical feel or a true low profile keyboard? G915 for mech feel (tactile switch) and MX keys for less wobble and more low profile.. both are really great keyboards. MX Keys should be connected via dongle not BT for less delay. G915 Lightspeed tech is brilliant!
@dailyDesi_abhrant
@dailyDesi_abhrant 4 жыл бұрын
How to breathe ? TechLead - " Well as an ex-google , ex-facebook employee, let me tell you...."
@destroreact5706
@destroreact5706 2 жыл бұрын
RGB! your breathing must have RGB!
@dianeyoung9971
@dianeyoung9971 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my brother the Razer Huntsman Elite for Christmas all because I heard about it from you. My brother loves it. I don`t have one, but I like it too, because of the sound it makes. I thought it was a pretty cool gift. Thanks!
@debashishmitra
@debashishmitra 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful wonderful video. Only true lovers of computers, programming/coding and high quality tools know what a gem this video is. Thorough, quantitative (your tests and metrics) and at the same time sensitive (to the subtle joys of using a high quality tool). Thank you very much for this video and wish you all the best @TechLead . I thoroughly enjoy and appreciate your videos
@andrewpoloni4197
@andrewpoloni4197 4 жыл бұрын
If you think your keyboard isn't important now, you'll figure out how important it is (or was) when you've been typing for 30+ years. EXCELLENT review dude ... many thanks!! That Apex Pro apparently comes in different versions with different switches to suit your taste. Are some of those keyboards expensive? Yes. Is it nice not to have carpel tunnel when you're 50+ and been banging on a keyboard your whole career? YES.
@will-wowdk1930
@will-wowdk1930 3 жыл бұрын
sooo if we use cheap keyboard what we miss? chronic finger pain lmao 😂😁
@float32
@float32 2 жыл бұрын
Switching to a better layout than QWERTY will help much more than changing the feeling of the buttons.
@Rubindy
@Rubindy 2 жыл бұрын
apex pro doesnt have different switches, u mean the apex 7?
@andrewpoloni4197
@andrewpoloni4197 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rubindy Yeah, I'm not sure why the TKL version is called the Apex 7 vs. just the TKL version of the Pro?
@Rubindy
@Rubindy 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewpoloni4197 the apex 7 comes in blue, brown, red and apex pro and tkl with only omni switches afaik
@solidsteal
@solidsteal 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! My team helped designed the G915 A decent budget version of this is the is the HAVIT HV-KB390L. It comes with both kailh blue and red switches. The blue switches are quite loud but offer stiffer suspension and tactile feedback to control compression. The red keys are as you suspect, linear. Additionally if you game and code as I do a very nice balance is found in the Cherry Low Profile series switches. I use the Filco Stingray TKL Ninja, because clean.
@piposanchez
@piposanchez 2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered the G915 after hopelessly looking for a spanish layout blackwidow v3 pro (wireless). Everything is hyperinflated due to transport strikes, COVID, petrol prices etc xD I can type at about 135 wpm but have ADHD, so I think in the end the Logitech will be a much better choice due to the extra media keys and better bluetooth connectivity (so I can swap to mobile or tablet etc). I look forward to testing your product! :D
@luiswerner30pg
@luiswerner30pg 2 жыл бұрын
@@piposanchez Qué tal te va con el logitech? quiero comprarlo, pero estoy dudando... existe el layout en español? no lo encuentro, soy de latam.
@caca738
@caca738 Жыл бұрын
The design has one small but fatal flaw, the lack of backlight behind the secondary function keys…
@tobiasnagel2767
@tobiasnagel2767 3 ай бұрын
Whow... fantastic overview. Great stuff! Thank you
@pcartisan2721
@pcartisan2721 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I appreciate all of the details and hard work.
@BartekChlebek
@BartekChlebek 4 жыл бұрын
You can remap command and option keys under System Preferences - Keyboard - Modifier Keys. No need for Karabiner.
@TechLead
@TechLead 4 жыл бұрын
noice, thanks for the tip!
@quorkquork
@quorkquork 3 жыл бұрын
Karabiner is useful and needed for other reasons as well.
@zacjack
@zacjack 3 жыл бұрын
Pros: Everything Cons: Sounds like jellybeans.
@viperrius
@viperrius 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention it's $200.
@zacjack
@zacjack 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not thatttt bad for something you use for 8-10 hours a day 5 days a week.
@pradeepchoudhary1627
@pradeepchoudhary1627 3 жыл бұрын
that's why he recommended it. because it sounds like jellybeans.
@jasasul8164
@jasasul8164 3 жыл бұрын
@@viperrius not a problem when you're a millionaire
@bmg.723
@bmg.723 3 жыл бұрын
Real programmers confront critical bugs with a 5$ keyboard
@fcf8269
@fcf8269 2 жыл бұрын
These days, a keyboard for a programmer is like a camera for a photographer or a suit for a salesman... It identify you; not what kind of work you do :P People can swear that you can code better on a 200 dollars keyboard; meanwhile their OS on desktop and mobile are made by people using 30 bucks rubber dome cheap logitech keyboards.
@miketaratuta
@miketaratuta 3 жыл бұрын
G915 TKL rules them all. worth every penny, especially if you code. solid build, inspiring styling, great feel, connects instantly even on macs. this man is speaking the truth and saved the best for last. i knew he would pick the G915 as the winner as soon as he showed it on screen. previous comment is hilarious and so true.
@TheSolarium18
@TheSolarium18 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I own a G915 TKL and a G502 Lightspeed mouse perfect combo for workflow and gaming only gets better with an occasional extra numbpad placed on the left of the keyboard and of course an Elgato Streamdeck within reach
@taklayagelensermest
@taklayagelensermest 7 ай бұрын
Used all of them shown here? How to decide
@Cons2911
@Cons2911 4 жыл бұрын
I’m also a developer, I don’t type this fast, And even if i could, my brain would probably not keep up with 150 wpm. I think I’m at 80 and that is when I’m trying, maybe 60-70 on average
@zilliq
@zilliq 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed but I think he made a fair point with the importance of travel distance, never tried the apple keyboard but I can imagine what it feels to type against a wood board for 8 hours straight. Also the importance of the actuation force for the pinkie sitting on left shift duty all day
@Cons2911
@Cons2911 3 жыл бұрын
@@zilliq I have a mech keyboard for gaming and I like typing on it vs my work keyb. It’s high profile though and wired, so I haven’t used it for work, but yeah I was not a fan until I’ve tried it. Maybe bec it’s smooth, linear
@pspimf
@pspimf 3 жыл бұрын
@@zilliq programmers don’t spend their days typing. Not 8 hours at least.
@cea0611
@cea0611 3 жыл бұрын
@@zilliq Hi, I'm studying Software Engineering and I want a keyboard for programming and also for gaming, and I'm really insecure in what type of switch should I go for, I'm thinking about getting a keyboard with Cherry Mx Red switches or with Cherry Mx Brown switches, do you guys have any suggestions? Thanks a lot :) P.S: I'm form Mexico so please excuse me if I have any grammar mistake, saludos 🇲🇽.
@austinfinell
@austinfinell 3 жыл бұрын
@@cea0611 probably a bit late but I really like mx browns because they're just a tad less sensitive than reds. Good for typing
@mountainrules2982
@mountainrules2982 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, you are the first one I've encountered that also shares the fear I experience when using a keyboard with overly sensitive actuation! I'm not alone!
@goldenpiece7087
@goldenpiece7087 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, I do have left hands pinky issues because of "tab", "shift" and "ctrl".
@oxey_
@oxey_ 3 жыл бұрын
It's why I stopped using gateron clears and switched to blues. Far less fatfingering and the tactile feedback feels really nice, imo.
@ChrisHorneVL
@ChrisHorneVL 3 жыл бұрын
I got the logitech G815 based on your review, and I have to say the keyboard is awesome.. My only complaint is as a programmer the arrow keys are too far away.. I have to stretch my pinky constantly and it's annoying. That's my only gripe, and the distance to travel is slightly higher than I'd like from key to key which requires a little more dexterity but other than that, this is a sweet keyboard.
@BenjaminAMcKay
@BenjaminAMcKay 3 жыл бұрын
Very thorough and detailed review!! I love it! Keep up the good work. This has helped me in my future buying/purchasing decisions. Thank you!! :)
@daveg7878
@daveg7878 4 жыл бұрын
The perfect keyboard is likely not one of the mainstream offerings. There is a world of options out there.
@Aomicplane
@Aomicplane 2 жыл бұрын
While there are keyboards out there that you might objectively call just plain bad and not suited for anyone, mostly it all comes down to personal preference. What might be the perfect keyboard for one person might be the worst keyboard for another...
@daveg7878
@daveg7878 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aomicplane true. My point is simply that the choices are endless. The odds of a mass market offering nailing YOUR ideal preferences is slim. There are good ones but if you want something tailored to your taste, build it that way.
@billy2204
@billy2204 4 жыл бұрын
I used a $13 logitech K120 when coding for about the last six years. Just got a G815 today for gaming, and I really like it. I'll probably use it for coding too.
@jakke1975
@jakke1975 4 ай бұрын
Just bought a G815, basically the same as the G915 but without wireless and bluetooth and you get an additional pass-through usb 2 slot on the keyboard. G815 was about 115€ while the G915 was well over 160€. Since I don't move my keyboard more than a few cm, I actually prefer wired because you don't have to deal with recharging. Glad I made the right call. I was kinda bumped when they didn't have the Linear switches and had to use the Tactiles, but after seeing this video I figure it is the right choice after all. Thanks!
@AlejandraStamato
@AlejandraStamato 3 жыл бұрын
"How much are you willing to pay for inspiration and confidence?" omg
@DanielMiclos
@DanielMiclos 4 жыл бұрын
just got a G915 as a birthday present and so far I'm pretty happy with it
@lojadacris
@lojadacris 4 жыл бұрын
The greatest 15 minutes AD for keyboards that i ever seen. Deep.
@mrln.bllmnn
@mrln.bllmnn 4 жыл бұрын
Just go to Taeha Types, the channel is full of great keyboard videos.
@toast_volcano
@toast_volcano 2 жыл бұрын
dude... motivational keyboard speaker... Not even a programmer but now I'm about to deep dive in to keyboards...
@bananaqueue78
@bananaqueue78 2 жыл бұрын
"the linear keys just go down smoothly and tend to be quieter" *clack clack clack CLACK CLACK CLACK*
@LauriHuu
@LauriHuu 4 жыл бұрын
"The keyboard is the way in which we interact with the world" Right in the feels man...
@joymae
@joymae 4 жыл бұрын
It's like the DJ set for Engineers
@vaniellelee2575
@vaniellelee2575 4 жыл бұрын
made me laugh more than it should
@StambeccoAllaFragola
@StambeccoAllaFragola 3 жыл бұрын
06:56 that's a pearl in the history of reasoning :')
@hanif8279
@hanif8279 3 жыл бұрын
your typing speed was so sick bro ! i wish i can be like that oneday
@TimsDaBossMC
@TimsDaBossMC 4 жыл бұрын
TechLead: "It's not rgb" Viewer: "C'mon do you really need it? It's a gimmick." TechLead: "How much are you willing to pay for inspiration and confidence?"
@chopsthicc8673
@chopsthicc8673 4 жыл бұрын
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
@will-wowdk1930
@will-wowdk1930 3 жыл бұрын
soo are rgb keyboards better?
@will-wowdk1930
@will-wowdk1930 3 жыл бұрын
also linear keyboard?
@MattJett
@MattJett 4 жыл бұрын
For me, I love my Logitech MX Keys paired with my MX Master 3. Since I work from home, I use Logitech's Flow feature to swiftly move from my desktop to my work laptop throughout the day. The keyboard itself is so comfortable to type on and the mouse is near perfect to me.
@done1675
@done1675 3 жыл бұрын
Props to you for not being sponsored. I know nothing about programming/coding but I subbed just because you didn't accept any free product for this comparison/review.
@TuanTran-ct1ev
@TuanTran-ct1ev 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the detailed keyboard comparison. I was going for the MX keyboard but now I am leaning toward the G915...great work and please produce more tech clips!
@zknarc
@zknarc 4 жыл бұрын
"go out and do battle every day" lmao, this is why I TechLead
@MarkRose1337
@MarkRose1337 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy my Das Keyboard 4 Ultimate with Cherry MX Blues. It's such a joy to type on that sometimes I just want to type for no reason at all.
@ApexierGS
@ApexierGS 4 жыл бұрын
But have you tried Kailh BoxWhites switches?? They are clicky bliss. You could be missing out
@MarkRose1337
@MarkRose1337 4 жыл бұрын
@@ApexierGS Nope, I haven't. To be honest, I treat keyboards like appliances: I want a pretty, functional one, and I don't want to mess around much. The Ultimate has the exact feature set I wanted, and it was money well spent. The only thing I'd change would be getting rid of the blue LEDs.
@slowshi1521
@slowshi1521 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Rose honestly if you are gonna treat a keyboard as an appliance then you should sell your crappy das and build your own keyboard
@ApexierGS
@ApexierGS 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarkRose1337 hmmm, ok then, because I looked at DAS keyboards back in 2015 and I could not justify the price tag of $200+ for the simple keyboard with few features, and the cheap build quality which can be found on any $40 keyboard or better today. I tried hard to find the magic sauce behind the price tag, but in the end I gave up and bought a simple Tesoro fullsize keyboard with Kailh blue mx switches and blue backlight for $70. I was super happy with the purchase. I use it for my CAD workstation with all the terminal shortcuts, and all my interoffice communications. I modded it with thicker aftermarket keycaps, then the lighting from blue to white LED, and then the switches themselves. I had the urge to do little mods as stepping stones, and it opened my mind to all the mech-keyboard options. It has been a fun journey since 2015, just like building PCs or woodworking.
@rbnn
@rbnn 4 жыл бұрын
I love my Das Keyboard too. It’s odd he didn’t try one
@miramar-103
@miramar-103 3 жыл бұрын
I have also been looking for a good keyboard recently .. I like clicky mechanical keys .. with full back-lighting ... and sure there are lots of options, until you look closely at the SHIFT- keys ... nearly always these are *not* back-lit ... which is a PITA for less skilled typists such as myself...
@sylwesteroleszek3143
@sylwesteroleszek3143 2 жыл бұрын
You are amazing 🙂 I haven't seen so thorough and clear test and explanation 🙂
@dkastner
@dkastner 4 жыл бұрын
This is so enlightening! Thanks for making this!
@jackalexander3246
@jackalexander3246 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, me, a virgin programmer, is writing code on MacBook’s “elevator buttons” keyboard on daily basis.
@abcdxx1059
@abcdxx1059 4 жыл бұрын
I'm coding on my phone on leetcode website
@TimsDaBossMC
@TimsDaBossMC 4 жыл бұрын
am coding on toaster
@illegalquantity
@illegalquantity 3 жыл бұрын
I was coding on a c64
@StageMan57
@StageMan57 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Fantastic review!
@TooManyChis
@TooManyChis Жыл бұрын
Just purchased the Linear for programming. Nice to know you made this your pick! Heading over to check out your fav mouse. Thanks!
@jairoperez9788
@jairoperez9788 4 жыл бұрын
"none of this is sponsored, I bought all of this keyboards with my own money" of course, because you're a millionaire.
@sergeimaslovskiy
@sergeimaslovskiy 4 жыл бұрын
))
@jairoperez9788
@jairoperez9788 4 жыл бұрын
@@sergeimaslovskiy ;
@laurent-minimalisme
@laurent-minimalisme 4 жыл бұрын
resold on ebay with 10% more because it has been touched by the techlead himself, A penny saved is a penny earned.
@misterowl3086
@misterowl3086 4 жыл бұрын
But he gets money from the purchases. Look at the video's description. What a sellout.
@dogelife7901
@dogelife7901 4 жыл бұрын
real millionaires use other peoples money.
@hertzvador2220
@hertzvador2220 4 жыл бұрын
Following this comprehensive review I purchased the Razer Huntsman. Great keyboard. Thanks TechLead.
@DonDregon
@DonDregon 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, I've a G915 too and I realized that the day I receive it, that speed while typing... at the beginning is a bit weird but hey, you get used in few minutes, it's amazing! Of course, tactile switches too
@kou2981
@kou2981 3 жыл бұрын
Best keyboard for programmers would be the Realforce R2 RGB/No RGB(depends on user) TLK from Topre.
@johnkhachian8254
@johnkhachian8254 4 жыл бұрын
As a keyboard enthusiast, I would personally recommend the GMMK TKL it has RGB, and hotswappable sockets, so it can be setup with any type of switch. It's in the general price range of the keyboards in this video. The Massdrop CTRL is also great for a larger budget
@onelonglizard
@onelonglizard 4 жыл бұрын
I love my GMMK! I swapped the caps for Ducky low profile ones and the RGB looks incredible. Kemove makes a really decent low budget keyboard that is fully hot swappable.
@johnkhachian8254
@johnkhachian8254 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, I have a GMMK TKL as well, and I obviously really like it
@MinecraftLetstime
@MinecraftLetstime 4 жыл бұрын
I just got my G915 Clicky version a few weeks ago, absolutely amazing. It's a joy to type on, and literally makes me happy every time I see it or whenever I start typing.
@AndyS2K76
@AndyS2K76 4 жыл бұрын
try the happy hacking hybrid type s. it's in another league for me. it'a amazing.
@maumau467
@maumau467 3 жыл бұрын
I have ADD, and I have watched this video so many times. I learn something new everytime. :D
@trend3100
@trend3100 2 жыл бұрын
i love when he says its a exciting lineup with no reaction.
@matsudakodo
@matsudakodo 4 жыл бұрын
Great roundup using experience and data. I haven't found a review like this before. Unfortunately, I am sticking to my MS Sculpt ergonomic keyboard because Logitech doesn't seem to care about our wrists. EDIT: they released a new ergonomic keyboard this year, as did MS. I think you should do a comparison.
@jimbeilaw4506
@jimbeilaw4506 4 жыл бұрын
I see my guy techlead is working on that biceps 💪🏻
@1a1o
@1a1o 4 жыл бұрын
chcpr1 lmao 🤣 he’s left handed
@ColemakDH
@ColemakDH 3 жыл бұрын
the best one is a custom one so it fits all your personal needs and it's exactly what you want
@dmg04158
@dmg04158 2 жыл бұрын
I really was looking for a major keyboards review on programmer's view. Thank you very much!!
@mikelongchen7723
@mikelongchen7723 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: The Keyboard is very importante. Me: Casually using the 20 bucks keyboard I bought.
@yousafe007
@yousafe007 4 жыл бұрын
7 euros Microsoft QWERTY keyboard, beat ya!!
@Kohiku
@Kohiku 4 жыл бұрын
If you code with shitty keyboard..- what is wrong with you?
@mikelongchen7723
@mikelongchen7723 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kohiku I have chosen the path the harsh path. Or not. It is actually quite comfortable typing on the cheap keyboard.
@sayoushsubedi5756
@sayoushsubedi5756 4 жыл бұрын
I use like 2.5$ keyboard which is nice , I guess.
@mohitnarang2286
@mohitnarang2286 4 жыл бұрын
@@sayoushsubedi5756 I use ₹180rs keyboard same amount in dollars that you say 🤣🙄
@LuisRamirez-xu2pi
@LuisRamirez-xu2pi 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Techlead. I think the title should be, 'Top 10 Keyboards for (Millionaire) Programmers'
@a46475
@a46475 Жыл бұрын
Where is it easiest to run? Tall grass or short grass? Soft ground or hard ground? Where do you expend the most energy running? Asphalt or beach? On which terrain would you move the fastest? On which terrain would you fatigue the fastest? That is my response to the key travel issue. It's really all about the lights.
@kimtaiferragamo
@kimtaiferragamo 2 жыл бұрын
thanks...that was the best analysis yet...thanks for just being straight and to the point without trying to be entertaining....
@einarbaldr3159
@einarbaldr3159 4 жыл бұрын
If what you're looking for is a low profile mechanical keyboard, you should try out the Keycrhon K1, which is a low profile keyboard with a wireless mode, with gateron low profile switches, in addition to that is almost half the price of those other keyboards in the showcase. Hope this helps a little. Greetings!
@joymae
@joymae 4 жыл бұрын
The keyboard is what we do to go into battle everyday LOL
@danielstony70
@danielstony70 4 жыл бұрын
"Where are fortunes are made with "
@helloai.awesome
@helloai.awesome 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking from a true engineer he is not kidding. Trust me when you spent 12 hours a day to program
@motif5775
@motif5775 4 жыл бұрын
+Joy Mae - Millennial Money Talk Facts, that is our weapon of choice. The first Logitech he showed is prob the best one out of all the keyboards in video.
@joymae
@joymae 4 жыл бұрын
@@motif5775 Code is Code! You need a good keyboard to avoid mistakes
@motif5775
@motif5775 4 жыл бұрын
@@joymae I agree 👍. I didnt know how beneficial a good keyboard was until I purchased one.
@tallswede80
@tallswede80 3 жыл бұрын
good review thank you very much. typing this with the g915 because of your review.
@liameneuk
@liameneuk 3 жыл бұрын
I just "code" vba as a hobby and already found that TKL is so cumbersome. Can't believe professional programmers use them.
@bren.r
@bren.r 4 жыл бұрын
The HHKB layout is so great once you get used to it and I've gotta say, Topre switches have grown on me.
@robsinHL
@robsinHL 3 жыл бұрын
@High Plains Drafter I don't
@abyss_mk
@abyss_mk 4 жыл бұрын
For $800 going full custom would allow tuning of acoustics, typing feel, and aesthetics
@Abats.kbclub
@Abats.kbclub 4 жыл бұрын
I approve my current keyboard is 800$ for one full custom 😂
@LivE-cs6cd
@LivE-cs6cd 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I was just searching Amazon for a better keyboard. Perfect timing, great video! 👏🏽🙏🏽
@VigneshDhakshinamoorthy
@VigneshDhakshinamoorthy 3 жыл бұрын
Super comprehensive review, beautifully done! Just so expensive but if you type 9am to 5pm, and beyond, probably gotta give your fingers / health this added boost and comfort, no?
@DeviantDeveloper
@DeviantDeveloper 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, this is baby stuff. Ergodox EZ. Tented, ergo, split, fully reprogrammable keys, 32 programmable layers (think layer 2 with keypad under right hand and arrows under left, layer 3 with all coding brackets etc), user changeable switches, ortholinear, blank keys (optional pro choice), under keyboard RGB, visual configurator. It's not 'next level' it's 10 levels up. Couple with Autohotkey for even more power. You're messing with an 1890 typewriter there, literally. Like comparing horse harnesses when you could buy a Tesla.
@andrew_li
@andrew_li 4 жыл бұрын
Never mind that there's a whole community specialising in alternative keyboard layouts.
@DeviantDeveloper
@DeviantDeveloper 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrew_li Well the end game is full programmability and layers with unprinted key caps. Essentially infinitely configurable layouts (and boy, do I tweak it a lot)
@andrew_li
@andrew_li 4 жыл бұрын
The Deviant Developer IDW Podcast That's very true. I also use 2 extra layers activated by the tab key and the caps key. I also use blank keys which tbh is more for aesthetic for me :). Though it definitely doesn't hurt to invest in a layout that is overall more ergonomic and comfortable to use ^^
@DeviantDeveloper
@DeviantDeveloper 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrew_li Yeah the ortholinear works much better for the number pad too (cause it's a grid like a number pad)
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