Get to know Punkt MP02: A Dumbphone w/Signal for your Privacy.

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11 ай бұрын

The Punkt MP02 is a feature/dumbphone that natively support Signal through its Pigeon client. Let's take a look at this minimal phone and who it may be for, what it's like to use, and most importantly: how Signal works to offer you a private and secure experience unlike most other smartphones.
Some of you asked for a look at the iPhone, check it out: • Simplifying w/Digital ...
For a dive into Pigeon 2.0's changes, Jose has a great video: • Punkt MP02 July 2023 (...
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@techlore
@techlore 11 ай бұрын
Quite a few of you wanted a deeper dive into the iPhone/Android device in the video, so I made a little video showcasing my setup :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r76FmMyIyZq1ioE.html
@pradap2298
@pradap2298 11 ай бұрын
300 dollars ridiculously high price
@techlore
@techlore 11 ай бұрын
Definitely a high price!
@Remigrator
@Remigrator 11 ай бұрын
400
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 11 ай бұрын
Yeah seriously maybe at 1:50 200 I could justify that as a boutique but premium privacy focused dumb phone. But if it's not profitable at that price it's hard to justify.
@martinlutherkingjr.5582
@martinlutherkingjr.5582 11 ай бұрын
Not really when you consider how small the market is for something like this and inflation.
@Tom-kt8lu
@Tom-kt8lu 11 ай бұрын
😂
@aidancasserley1393
@aidancasserley1393 8 ай бұрын
It’s now possible to link Pigeon to signal on your desktop, which is great. Perhaps release a new, short video, showing the setup process? It’s easy with the QR Code decoder. I’m using it and I’m enjoying it.
@biggbeefer
@biggbeefer 11 ай бұрын
I'm really into this wave of "smart dumbphones" like this, the light phone 2, etc. I think a lot of people would be interested in this kind of stuff, but the biggest obstacle to the space is the price tags on these things. The value straight up sucks lol. If over the course of years they can iterate and bring the prices down I think we can start to see a serious legitimate market for these kinds of phones!
@Fr4nkSanchez
@Fr4nkSanchez 5 ай бұрын
yeap, you can do something similar by setting grayscale, and reduce the apps in home
@firstnamelastname6738
@firstnamelastname6738 3 ай бұрын
@@Fr4nkSanchez Yeah and still get tracked by google and every other corporation out there.
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 11 ай бұрын
You'd think that a candybar Android phone with -a lowend chip from last year plus 2GB RAM, -one 5MP rear cam specifically for stuff like QR/Bar codes, -a decent Nokia style keyboard PLUS a 400x400 pixel or something touchscreen of around 2.5 inches, -bluetooth for music and NFC for payments -the option to choose between a minimal and a vanilla launcher and -the occational security patch should be possible for 150 bucks or so. It would do basically everything a smartphone does minus being good for watching videos or social media doom scrolling. But it's at least possible if necessary. Now, waterproof it for 50 bucks more and it would be a banger work phone for any kind of industry, farming or trades as well as outdoor enthusiasts.
@Neavris
@Neavris 11 ай бұрын
Removable cameras and bluetooth would be better imo... We have modularity on PC, why can't we have any on cell phone? They even prevent us to change the battery.
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 11 ай бұрын
@@Neavris Better than what? Modularity is barely a thing on highend and midrange devices, why should a minimalist phone which is cheap first and foremost do that?
@ANullAssault
@ANullAssault 11 ай бұрын
Add walkie talkie functionality and it really would be perfect for jobsites
@kiyoponnn
@kiyoponnn 11 ай бұрын
agreed, pixel 6 is a far better deal
@blacksundarkskies
@blacksundarkskies 10 ай бұрын
dude their watch is 250$
@trer04
@trer04 11 ай бұрын
Damn my wallet would feel punkt.
@JoseBriones
@JoseBriones 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the shoutout! Hoping that the new Punkt update for pigeon will fix some of these issues and help tons for stability. Appreciate hearing your thoughts on the matter!
@techlore
@techlore 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the amazing content Jose, keep kicking ass
@Nanomaroni
@Nanomaroni 11 ай бұрын
I'm using the MP02 for four months as my main and only Phone. The only thing really annoying me is the Signal Problem you mentioned. But it's totally doable daily driving a dumbphone like this, but keep in mind that you need let some conveniences go! This Device broke my Smartphone addiction and I don't want to give it back. I just wish the updates were more frequent and they fix Signal.
@michaeldhondt368
@michaeldhondt368 8 ай бұрын
Me too it's my only phone for 2 months I don't use signal or pigeon just normal calls and texts
@hotdogsoup-nl
@hotdogsoup-nl 5 ай бұрын
Does Signal (Pigeon) properly display received photos or videos?
@jakubstrnad4730
@jakubstrnad4730 5 ай бұрын
Hello, that's right, I bought another pocket music player, I still have the digital SLR with me. The main bonus is the receptivity of the surroundings and the fact that I started writing, painting and playing musical instruments again... That's the power of PUNKT MP02. I tried going back to my smartphone but it didn't make sense...
@motionoftheocean7524
@motionoftheocean7524 3 ай бұрын
Can you share me a short prose...a poem maybe?....can you play mozart ?.... Guns n Roses?.... I wanna know.😊​@@jakubstrnad4730
@johnblackmouth
@johnblackmouth 2 ай бұрын
@@michaeldhondt368then you could’ve saved money and purchased a regular dumb phone
@redeyesdrogon786
@redeyesdrogon786 11 ай бұрын
This is an interesting device. I feel like this could be used as a daily driver if they improve a few more things. Overall, a solid attempt 👍🏽
@hank9th
@hank9th 10 ай бұрын
I'm hopeful that we see more innovation in these modern dumb phones. One form-factor I'd be really interested in seeing is a dual-screen slab phone, where you have a reflective e-ink top screen for displaying distraction-free content, and a monochrome OLED touch screen on the bottom that serves as the primary input mechanism. I feel like this would strike the best balance between a phone minimizes distractions at the hardware, but is still just as capable at performing the "necessary" functions of a phone.
@sixtyinsix
@sixtyinsix 11 ай бұрын
Regarding the keyboard and typing: Makes me wonder how much Nokia thumb typing muscle memory I still have after all these years.
@MikeWood
@MikeWood 11 ай бұрын
Good starting point and I like the design. But no camera for QR codes ...If this was a $100 burner phone and it had a Blackberry or Sidekick QWERTY... Typing messages OG style T9 is a deal breaker.
@rationalraven8956
@rationalraven8956 8 ай бұрын
I would totally buy one of these if I could afford it. The Signal thing doesn't matter to me because I don't even know anyone who uses Signal. I just want a "dumb phone" that actually will work on modern mobile networks, and isn't some cheap junk from China. It's also a nice bonus that the Punkt provides wifi tethering, which is something you didn't mention in the video but I think is a major selling point. The idea is that if you want to go on the Internet you can, but it's a deliberate act which you sit down and engage in, not something just sending you notifications in your pocket 24/7. Personally I can't really justify paying that much right now, but I don't think the price is unfair at all, I'm sure it costs a ton to manufacture a phone with a completely custom design on such a small scale using high quality parts.
@renzokukenleneyoyo522
@renzokukenleneyoyo522 3 ай бұрын
I was about to pull the trigger on the punkt because of minimalism and signal and the issue you raised is monumental! Thanks for the review and cheers from Costa Rica!
@lowwastehighmelanin
@lowwastehighmelanin 11 ай бұрын
I'm interested in this and I had no idea it existed, thanks Henry! I was dreading having to get a larger phone when my iPhone 13 mini dies. My sister and I are always looking for more private means of communicating even if it's just with each other. This would be a good device to use during Defcon once Signal works properly on it.
@altrogeruvah
@altrogeruvah 11 ай бұрын
Interesting device, but yeah, even though I can understand the high price tag, it's not really justifiable when you compare it to what's available out there.
@doctoruttley
@doctoruttley 10 күн бұрын
Have it as a second phone. Just forward my iPhone calls and texts to my MP02 number. Leave the iPhone at home. No problems, no bugs and surpasses my expectations.👌🏻
@dreadinajeep
@dreadinajeep 11 ай бұрын
Very expensive for most.Easier to have a graphene device with the bare minimum apps.The only issue is that the only pixel phones supported at the end of this month are huge.I do like what Punkt is trying to do tho.
@techlore
@techlore 11 ай бұрын
I really just want a small Android device again. The Zenfone is still too big!
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 11 ай бұрын
Where do you find this ability to get the graphene phone?
@mauldus
@mauldus 11 ай бұрын
@@techlore Seconded. Pixel 5a was the last one I could actually reach the send button with my left thumb. I sent a Pixel 6 back for the 6a because it was too big. No wireless charging for me, I guess.
@user-il6li4jf3y
@user-il6li4jf3y 11 ай бұрын
@@techlore Damn, do you use the Zenfone? I've been wanting to pick the new one up (because fuck Samsung and Apple) but ASUS just announced they're basically shutting Zenfone down and the 10 is the last phone of the series, so I've been having second thoughts. Thinking maybe the Galaxy S23 isn't THAT bad of an option... Knowing someone as knowledgeable as you is using or even just prefers the Zenfone would probably sway my decision.
@bruhvistan9001
@bruhvistan9001 11 ай бұрын
You're better off with calyxOS until the grapheneOS dev goes to get treatment for his psychosis
@Pinko-Diamond
@Pinko-Diamond 11 ай бұрын
i'd be willing to pay at least that much if it had a pop out keyboard like the ol sidekick.
@snowah975
@snowah975 11 ай бұрын
Please make a video guide/tutorial on your exact iPhone setup and how to dumb it down!
@techlore
@techlore 11 ай бұрын
Edit, here it is: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/arCTktKStcqVZGg.html
@JasonThorneMagicLAMP
@JasonThorneMagicLAMP 2 ай бұрын
QR Codes are a complete waste of time. Ordering in a resteraunts that have QR code table menus is slower than ordering at the counter. It would be so easy to put a code you could type in at the bottom of the QR code that would accomplish the same thing if you did not have a camera, but the QR code is to force you to have an internet capable device you carry around with you so you are constantly tracked and traced.
@JasonThorneMagicLAMP
@JasonThorneMagicLAMP Күн бұрын
I watched this again and marvel at the lack of understanding involved in assuming making a desktop client for Pidgeon is hard. Any first year undergraduate could write a blog, and that is all Pidgeon really is with some security on top, and the security is only complex at a VERY low level where you get into the cryptography of the thing, and even that is honors degree level math that is not beyond any pure maths graduate. Admittedly that is a high bar, but no one gets their hands that dirty these days, you don't need to. That is all done by routines you call that are available in practically every language, python, perl, php, C, C++. And all o this is superflous anyway, people give all their data away freely to google, facebook, youtube, shadywebsite inc, any web driven platform that asks for it. For the amount of hassle that security causes us, we would be better off (and live a lot longer) just transmitting all our messages on an unencrypted device accross an unencrypted network. Disclaimer: Any man in the middle process that scrapes this message is welcome to write it on toilet paper and wipe their ass with it.
@akash_gupta
@akash_gupta 11 ай бұрын
I want this so bad! But can't get over the fact that my full-fledged Samsung smartphone that has been working reliably for 3 years now cost $200.
@realVampyToast
@realVampyToast 11 ай бұрын
It would be neat if they added voice typing it would fix the typing issues
@bibleburner
@bibleburner 11 ай бұрын
It would be better if it had a qwerty keypad like a blackberry
@gustavofigueiredo1798
@gustavofigueiredo1798 11 ай бұрын
"If only" they would fix the issues it has right now, and add an mp3 player + headphone jack + sd card slot AND a qwerty (sliding?) keyboard... it'd be close to perfection IMHO.
@Grace17893
@Grace17893 8 ай бұрын
Love it brother God bless you
@davidprock904
@davidprock904 11 ай бұрын
Please tell the makers of this phone about my idea! After knowing about the 'CharaChorder One', What if you could do that for the keys, so the key with ABC, a if the left direction, b is the up direction, c is the right direction, and for the number would be the down direction or a press
@MrAndMrsGrover
@MrAndMrsGrover 9 ай бұрын
Hi Techlore, thanks for the clear video pointing out the poignant current issue with MP02, next to its merits. In my own interest: would you say it is more likely that Punkt will introduce a software workaround - or that they will release an MP03, with camera, that enables Signal Desktop support. Thanks in advance!
@speakertwentytwo
@speakertwentytwo 11 ай бұрын
If it had a rear camera so you can use Signal on multiple devices, and you can take basic photos (it's the memory or utility that counts, not the quality), the MP02 would be a very compelling option.
@MrAndMrsGrover
@MrAndMrsGrover 9 ай бұрын
Do you know if there is a device that essentially has these specs?
@MrAndMrsGrover
@MrAndMrsGrover 9 ай бұрын
I guess they could make a way to simply input a QR code, instead of having to actually use a camera.. I'm glad this KZfaqr points this issue out clearly! My only/main drawback for not getting the Punkt.
@speakertwentytwo
@speakertwentytwo 9 ай бұрын
​@@MrAndMrsGrover There are plenty of 'dumbphones' that don't run Android and have features like cameras and web browsers, but because they don't run Android, they also don't support Signal. It's a catch-22. The Light Phone supports Android apps if I recall correctly and might have a camera. You'll have to check.
@MrAndMrsGrover
@MrAndMrsGrover 9 ай бұрын
​@@speakertwentytwo Hi, thanks for responding. I don't really want a camera or webbrowser, just Signal (with Desktop support :)). So there really is no perfect one phone out there, of course, which means I will have to divide it across multiple phones, as I do currently. Perhaps you could help me out: I'm looking for a minimalist, preferrably open-source, dumbphone - actual dumb, not feature - that can run 4G. I wouldn't mind using an old Nokia as daily driver, except the providers here in the EU no longer support 2G. Thanks!
@aosth5
@aosth5 11 ай бұрын
Love the design and color! Reminds me of the nextbit robin. Hate everything else :^)
@reesericdotci
@reesericdotci 11 ай бұрын
I'd buy it in a heartbeat if the support was for Matrix and not Signal. Matrix doesn't have that syncing issue & is actually open.
@techlore
@techlore 11 ай бұрын
I'd love the option for either 👍
@arisoda
@arisoda 11 ай бұрын
hugely agree. This would be epic. I also hope the battery life is 2+ weeks
@gustavofigueiredo1798
@gustavofigueiredo1798 11 ай бұрын
Interesting. I'll be keeping an eye out for this device and it's parent company in the future. Simmilar to the Framework laptop, their product is going in the right direction, it's not perfect, but close. And while I can't afford to spend that ammount of money, especially it being an imperfect product, right now, I'll do it when it makes sense. It's good to know of the existence of these things, knowing there are options is great!
@-someone-.
@-someone-. 11 ай бұрын
All the extra “goodies” you get with the similarity priced “smart phones” like voice recognition speech stuff, 17 cameras, 6 microphones, blood & urine sample analyser etc are literally free compared to the PUNKT ...free for a reason👀 I’m getting a PUNKT.
@gustavofigueiredo1798
@gustavofigueiredo1798 11 ай бұрын
That's definitely fair to point out, and I thought the same. However it wouldn't hurt to have some of those functionalities available, if they were to get implemented in a secure way.
@-someone-.
@-someone-. 11 ай бұрын
@@gustavofigueiredo1798 remember Edward Snowden’s philosophy? Remove all cameras. Just carry a smartphone if you want cameras etc 👍just my opinion.
@rokyo401
@rokyo401 23 күн бұрын
Usually, I would consider "no cameras" as a *good* thing 😃 I wish there was a phone like this but with a Blackberry-like qwerty keyboard and USB-dockable camera, which you can *choose* to connect (when you need it) or leave in the desk drawer.
@videooblivion
@videooblivion 2 ай бұрын
This is called a "feature phone". And its internet capabilities include using it as a hotspot. The Pigeon client is made possible by other means of support, not the purchase cost.
@Spiralnebel_GB
@Spiralnebel_GB 11 ай бұрын
I love the idea to have a mobile device that got reduced to the max but personally i would miss a feature to stream music the most. Going back flasging cards or sticks would be no option for me.
@manuel0578
@manuel0578 3 ай бұрын
Dude, people used to be able to type faster on T9 keyboards than on touch keyboards.
@ah-64apache84
@ah-64apache84 11 ай бұрын
with all of those drawbacks, just save the money and get any 10$ dumbphone if you are willing to accept those, you can accept not having signal either for 290$ less
@RamsteinPoplaski
@RamsteinPoplaski 11 ай бұрын
They could maybe add a scanner or a small camera at the top of the phone which would make it interesting to see
@benhays6488
@benhays6488 11 ай бұрын
Are there any dumb phones that are cheaper in price that you would recommend? Thanks for the video!
@techlore
@techlore 11 ай бұрын
Not that's I've personally used/tested. But I'd recommend Jose's channel as he's the dumbphone pro!
@RedFidgetSpinner07-r5b
@RedFidgetSpinner07-r5b 25 күн бұрын
I have to get one of these things. Over the years I’ve noticed that I only use my iPad when going online. If I was using the iPhone it was because I was making a phone call or reading/sending basic text messages. The only problem is I highly depend on ordering Uber/Lyft. Something I’m gonna have to figure out🤔
@An.Individual
@An.Individual 11 ай бұрын
Does it allow you to create a new signal account without giving them a phone number?
@junaid2606
@junaid2606 11 ай бұрын
Can you plug in an external webcam to use as a camera to scan QR codes?
@vicjose
@vicjose Ай бұрын
I got my grandma this phone and they are roasting her at the nursing home
@hdtravel1
@hdtravel1 3 ай бұрын
Very cool device and concept - hopefully a new version will support 5G and also the Verizon network.
@gustavofigueiredo1798
@gustavofigueiredo1798 11 ай бұрын
The ending (edit: actually @7:08) of this video reminded me: Henry, will you be doing a "tour" of your smartphone setup and workflow in the future?
@techlore
@techlore 11 ай бұрын
Possibly, but likely on my personal channel (if I do)
@gustavofigueiredo1798
@gustavofigueiredo1798 11 ай бұрын
@@techlore Ok. Thanks!
@techlore
@techlore 11 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/arCTktKStcqVZGg.html Here ya go!
@slickfiz
@slickfiz 10 ай бұрын
I'd like to know if it has something like T9 dictionary & predictive text? Also does it have a dual SIM version & removable battery?
@GamingManiacMan
@GamingManiacMan 3 ай бұрын
It has both t9 and predictive in its settings It doesn't have a dual sim and I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a removable battery
@impermanenthuman8427
@impermanenthuman8427 11 ай бұрын
What’s the name of your best latest vid for best phone and setup process? Interested in how you setup your debloated smart phone and why you chose that over some of the other privacy/security focused phone operating systems? Thanks
@techlore
@techlore 11 ай бұрын
never done a video like this, but if I do it'll likely be on my personal channel
@impermanenthuman8427
@impermanenthuman8427 11 ай бұрын
@@techlore even a 2 phone system might be better? One focused on compatibility and usability and the other security/privacy depending on what you need the tool for at the time 🤔
@techlore
@techlore 11 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/arCTktKStcqVZGg.html Just made a video covering my phone. And yes you can always use multiple devices for different uses :P
@Neavris
@Neavris 11 ай бұрын
A dock that allows a small removable usb camera to be plugged in on top would be good.
@sean640
@sean640 11 ай бұрын
I have the punkt mp02 and now just use a grapheneos pixel 7. Another thing i would do is have my punkt, and make a hotspot to connect my wifi only pixel to it only when i needed to. Eh
@SAFT_NB
@SAFT_NB 11 ай бұрын
How about temporarily connecting a PC Webcam to the USB C port on the phone using an adapter .
@NamiberGames
@NamiberGames 11 ай бұрын
If Bluetooth seems to work for this device, wouldn't it be able to connect to a Bluetooth camera (only to setup Signal) ?
@UsualYaddaYadda
@UsualYaddaYadda 11 ай бұрын
Yea, that was the workaround that seemed obvious...if you can connect a BT keyboard...
@drendelous
@drendelous 11 ай бұрын
if privacy is that sensitive and important, why making the phone cost so much with so many limitations?
@laurencefraser
@laurencefraser 11 ай бұрын
Smaller production runs cost more per unit, which is probably a significant part of the cost. The lack of a camera, however, is a significant failing, given that dumb phones in general had them for... quite some time, prior to smart phones being a thing (even if they could often only send the images to other similarly capable phones via what amounted to an oversized text message, though I think the later ones had sensible ways to transfer them to your PC), so it's not like it's not at least a mostly solved problem.
@hopelessdecoy
@hopelessdecoy 11 ай бұрын
I say instead of wasting money on this (unless you really need it) help support Linux on phones. In the end it will have more features, more privacy and you can customize it as much as you can customize Linux (which is a lot). Pine Phone I hope someday gets feature complete and a real option, it might already be better than this in a number of ways.
@techlore
@techlore 11 ай бұрын
While I definitely agree with the overall sentiment and this is *currently* the case. I feel the end-goal of both of these devices is drastically different. Linux phones seem to have the goal of eventually being competitive to the average smartphone. As of today they fall so short that they're comparable to the Punkt :P But as Linux phones develop I imagine there will be fewer and fewer similarities between the two. Just my 2c. I think these intentionally minimal devices will be here to stay as an alternative to the smartphone. They prioritize focus.
@hopelessdecoy
@hopelessdecoy 11 ай бұрын
@@techlore good point! Some people will always want this just a phone product category.
@MartinDerTolle
@MartinDerTolle 11 ай бұрын
Soo their Signal client should totally have the ability for you to type the QR content manually
@slightlytwistedagain
@slightlytwistedagain 11 ай бұрын
Have you tried the GreenTouch Mindful phone? It might be right up your ally in terms of a stripped down modern phone.
@techlore
@techlore 11 ай бұрын
I haven't but it looks like a cool phone! Lack of E2EE messaging/calls would probably be the main reason I wouldn't use it just taking a quick look.
@Vamosmac
@Vamosmac 10 ай бұрын
The work around is an led camera
@JerzyLasica
@JerzyLasica 4 ай бұрын
It must have a camera. That's not either or. I am not a camera guy, rarely take pictures, BUT for qr codes (menus, information, registration...), situations ""hey, I got this problem (picture)", scanning of text...
@mc4ndr3
@mc4ndr3 4 ай бұрын
Privacy goes out the window with any cell phone. Cell service necessarily places you on a location grid visible to police and hackers.
@xristo702
@xristo702 8 ай бұрын
Do the batteries still suck on them?
@typingcat
@typingcat 6 ай бұрын
I don't know why without QR, you can't use it. QR is nothing but a machine-friendly way to transfer a small bytes of data. If it has no camera, there could be various other ways to acquire the same data. For example, the sender (the one that is showing the QR code) can simply encode the data in Morse code and play it through its speaker. Punkt can record the sound and decode it back to the original bytes.
@beyondsquid
@beyondsquid 11 ай бұрын
I want a phone of "average intelligence" that has email, camera, nice size keyboard (hardware of screen version) but limited apps and no browser. LightPhone gets closer but on-screen keyboard is not workable for my big fingers. I currently use Screen Time function of Iphone to get this but of course all the privacy issues come with that device.
@bighams69
@bighams69 6 ай бұрын
Pretty good pronounciation man ;)
@darknetworld
@darknetworld 11 ай бұрын
I guess it pros and cons to them. What about the pine phone they do better some degree.
@horacebones493
@horacebones493 3 ай бұрын
I’d honestly just buy a flip phone, which is still possible. It has an aesthetic, simple and nostalgic.
@jwmj2897
@jwmj2897 11 ай бұрын
@konsul2006
@konsul2006 Күн бұрын
How is the bluetooth and car infotainment support? Does it support syncing phonebook with the car (volkswagen, ford, etc)? Does it work with bluetooth Phonebook access profile (PbAP) for automotive Hands-Free use? New "dumb" Nokia phones do not fully work in my car!
@joelwylde
@joelwylde 6 ай бұрын
get me one with a qwerty keyboard and I'm sold.
@doctordutch
@doctordutch 9 ай бұрын
Does it allow you to dictate text?
@yagooliver15
@yagooliver15 11 ай бұрын
I loved the idea and concept, but, NO WAY pay 300 euros for it, I think 80 euros or less would be a fair price.
@mikeuk1927
@mikeuk1927 11 ай бұрын
Heck, even 150, considering they are a small company and they don't get the benefits of mass manufacturing and all. But 300 is waaay too much...
@Nakla
@Nakla 11 ай бұрын
It would be absolutely terrible in terms of security if it only cost 80 bucks Don't buy these devices at all
@MatthewCobalt
@MatthewCobalt 11 ай бұрын
I just want a phone that is a Blackberry Style OS and Keyboard. These "twelve button typers" are the worst to communicate anything more complicated than a three word sentence. Bluetooth keyboards aren't a good alternative inless you wanna do a minimalist writer setup. Privacy is one thing, but if it's hard to use then it just makes it less of an insensitive to use generally. Locking yourself to a service that require people with the same device is gonna limit everyone's use cases.
@MatthewCobalt
@MatthewCobalt 11 ай бұрын
I still have an 8520 that is in pretty rough shape, but it's still alive and is a way better experience than that device. I'm still going to wait for the blackberry successor.
@JasonThorneMagicLAMP
@JasonThorneMagicLAMP 24 күн бұрын
It also needs a 3.5mm headphone jack
@adamgarlow5347
@adamgarlow5347 7 ай бұрын
touchscreens arent that bad for phones (I threw up a little just typing that). On screen keyboards with swipe are miles better than the old days of hitting a button multiple times. I just wish there were more that supported a minimal OS and more older smartphone style hardware in between this and a new phone. For any manufactures listening, I'd like a small screen (4.5" diagonal would be fine), thickness should be bellow 20mm but striving for thin is bad, some sort of rear facing camera, a 3.5mm jack, a removable SD card, a removable battery, and possibly user-upgradable modem like the liberty phone. GPS for navigation is a nice to have I suppose. Apps should be as minimal as possible, a calculator, an end to end messaging client, email, web browser, and possibly an authenticator. No google services at all, no phoning home usage statistics, just insert sim card and have fun.
@AG-en5y
@AG-en5y 9 ай бұрын
Didn't they stop supporting the older version of MP02 ?
@raymond2136
@raymond2136 11 ай бұрын
why not plug in an external camera on the punkt
@roman3201
@roman3201 4 ай бұрын
You keep talking about it but I still don’t understand what pigeon signal is
@MonerBilly
@MonerBilly Ай бұрын
No camera? Sounds good
@oskari3659
@oskari3659 11 ай бұрын
I actually like it has no camera. Other issues and price are dealbreaker, otherwise I would get it as second phone.
@CoffeeMonster98
@CoffeeMonster98 22 күн бұрын
What kind of phone do you have?
@rejvaik00
@rejvaik00 11 ай бұрын
Kinda sad we have to shop out of being spied on now sadly
@GmailNexus
@GmailNexus 6 ай бұрын
A serious encrypted messenger needs a Blackberry Keyboard
@adstix
@adstix 11 ай бұрын
Physical or e-sim? VPN compatible?
@himangshudas3924
@himangshudas3924 10 ай бұрын
Really liked the design till you turned it around. Would have liked it if it were a lil bit thinner.
@vsk5573
@vsk5573 Ай бұрын
The problem with light phone and this punkt phone is they are overpriced. We have nokia feature phones with all these features and some are having payment feature ( atleast) in india.
@digitaldealer
@digitaldealer 11 ай бұрын
I know a lot of hom boyz in the crip, who would gladly pay that kinda money for a phone like that. 🙂
@onestopviewfiles
@onestopviewfiles 11 ай бұрын
6:41 sms is the backup option
@DarkLink606
@DarkLink606 11 ай бұрын
Why not making a dumb phone with qwerty physical keyboard?
@onestopviewfiles
@onestopviewfiles 11 ай бұрын
4:18 why not a Bluetooth camera?
@axiomatictugofwar
@axiomatictugofwar 11 ай бұрын
woo hoo
@forlexer
@forlexer 10 ай бұрын
a cheap as dirt camera dongole would be an easy implimentation.
@aathivive
@aathivive 10 ай бұрын
can never get this pigeon messenger to work. not reliable when travelling
@TechnologyGeek862
@TechnologyGeek862 11 ай бұрын
I get why it’s expensive but still nope for me. Maybe 100$ not a cent more.
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I was thinking 150 would be the maximum price and even that is a boutique price for a premium dumb phone. It's pretty ridiculous what kind of phone you can get from Android for $300 these days. You can even find Pixel 7 pros for 350 on the resale market and I recognize those are not privacy focused devices but you can use custom ROMs with most models
@BloodAsp
@BloodAsp 11 ай бұрын
The design is very human.
@ChaceBonanno
@ChaceBonanno 9 ай бұрын
Is there t9 word?
@johnny_bravo9990
@johnny_bravo9990 4 ай бұрын
What is signal account
@danmar007
@danmar007 8 ай бұрын
I wonder what the smartest dumb phone is.
@John-Smith02
@John-Smith02 11 ай бұрын
I bought 2 Pixel 6a phones off swappa in Mint condition for roughly $200 - $220(because of shipping and tax) each. $300 for a dumb phone is just dumb.
@dukirps
@dukirps 2 ай бұрын
Nokia still have the best dumb phone designs. If only they weren’t on Kai OS, they wouldn’t be so slow
@CoffeeMonster98
@CoffeeMonster98 22 күн бұрын
Join you on what?
@ethimself5064
@ethimself5064 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't even pay $50.00 for this blue box
@UNcommonSenseAUS
@UNcommonSenseAUS 11 ай бұрын
It may be the only thing that survivors the Maui style sky lazer attacks
@ethimself5064
@ethimself5064 11 ай бұрын
@@UNcommonSenseAUS Please explain, perhaps send a link/Thanks
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