Overall I love this turntable. I just wish the tonearm lift worked as good as my 1980's consumer auto technics table does lol.

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics Hahahah it was the time lifting point adjust was just a screw in the bottom of the turntable.

@@whittiertennyson6297 Missed this. I'll try this also. Thanks!

Does a spindle weight interfere with the auto lift?

The Baerwald to me had a cleaner bass response.

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics the clearer bass response may not be from Baerwald alignment itself but rather from altering tonearm effective mass. Baerwald requires moving cartridge several millimetres forward in headshell slots, thus making front end heavier, which in turn requires rebalancing the tonearm. This added inertia may give you a better bass response. Anyway if it works for you, keep it like this.

Glad you enjoyed it!

I will look into that, thanks!

Hello, thanks for your in-depth review. I'm thinking of putchasing this tt as a change to my dual cs 435. Have you found the solution of the lift-up problem with this tt?

Glad it was helpful!

Such as? Curious as I've never seen this.

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics ive never heard any...not seen.... lol...is the grammar teacher showing? luv your videos

Yes, with my Denon cart I like it.

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics I currently spin on a Tech 1200G with an OM-30...My Technics journey started with a KabUSA modified 1200 MK 5.....It could time and articulate in ways my VPI HW 19 Mk 4 with SDS, SAMA, and SME 309 with Shure M97xe could not.....at 1/4 of the cost. Currently running a KabUSA Ortofon Concorde (Intergrated SME headshell) with Sty 30 (OM-30 line contact stylus).

There is an A or B option in a service menu. The A is too early for mine, it lifts before the end of the record and B is "better late than never" option. I'd still buy it again, it's not a deal breaker.

The only real disappointment is the auto lift, the rest I knew going in and is a little unfair to complain about.

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics is it the same with all records? Maybe it was an issue with the inner edge on that particular one?🤔 I'm not even sure I know how it knows when the record ends, I'm guessing something to do with final groove, or lack of frequencies being received. That could make an interesting video, would be cool to know how it works. Might be a fix for it.

It states in the user manual the auto lift engages after 60 seconds and yes, all records behave this way.

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics I see. I've never owned an auto lifting record deck, so find it quite interesting. I do need to get back into records though, I love the action of interacting with music media, part of the experience in my mind.🙂

Link?

most headshells have an adjustment for that.

Yes I know, I have been actually looking the same setups you have on this video, I actually have the AT440MLb. Still if you want to use something like Ortofon Concorde your out of luck. I just have to wonder how is something like this messed up in the Highend models costing over 10 times this much.

I'm using a Yamamoto head shell and have it set close to that, 3.8ish

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics thanks!

They just add a touch of elegance as well!

I have a vintage pioneer pl570. I got the dark wood headshell to match the lighter wood of the table. I have a Denon DL 103. A workhorse MC cart. The Yamamoto really helps me dial it all together and although hesitant on the price, it turned out well worth the money.

It has a new belt.

Sadly this is how this system was designed. In the user manual it states "it may take some time (aprox 60 seconds) after the play finishes for the auto lift to operate, or it may operate while the record is still playing". Seriously??? Like I said, I just turned this off as they do have a switch on the back to just turn this broken "feature" off.

Weird, well at least I tried to send people to the original source. Here is another download option: docs.stoneset.fr/ELECTRICAL_AUDIO/_REGLAGE-CELLULE/ve_technics_baerwald_arc_protractor.pdf

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics Many Thanks!

You can adjust where it triggers the lift but not how long it takes. There are two settings, I need to see if the other setting performs better.

It says it takes 60 seconds in the user manual.

Have the same table, exact same issue.

Thanks again and keep up the amazing work. I'm looking into getting into tubes after watching all your awesome work. I currently run yamaha Mx 1000 amps and vintage JBL S3100 speakers.

Sure, but unless someone sends me one, that's probably not likely. Most gear I cover is stuff I buy for myself and I'm happy with this one! I did try an older music hall and wasn't impressed.

Did you press the level all the way down until it "clicks"? If it don't "click", then it sounds like possibly the latching mechanism that is part of the auto lift has broken.

No click unfortunately... The click disappeared just yesterday after one month of use) I can't believe it's Technics. Searching through out the Web I realize I'm not alone with this problem.

Hmm maybe I should turn off auto lift.

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics Upd. Just got the turntable from my repair service. They confirmed that the problem was on the mechanical side and not on electric one. The latter would be a very bad thing. However, the problem was inside of the tonarm's base, in the tonarm's node responsible for lifting/going down - there is a throttle with a little stick or rod. And this rod was not in the position as it should be. The repair service told me that they set this rod on the proper straight position and lubricated a bit the whole mechanism. That's it. I was also said that a turntable like this was not easy repairable especially if a problem lies on an electric side. Without a PCB scheme it's almost impossible to do anything as distinct from any turntables of late 1970s - first half of 1980s that are mostly easy repairable. And this situation is generally related to the politics of every contemporary hi-tech company. For a ht company today it's important that a customer buys its products regularly given the high cost of repairing an old device in an authorized repair service.

Older technics belt drive

You do have to hold the power button down, a quick poke at it won't turn it off.

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics does not always turn it on either, but I dont believe the electronics are the problem just the feel of that button on the plinth. The click is not right on the spot, so it feels you press it too hard even you do not.

I would return it and get another.

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics Well all the same to send the store message about this and ask them what to do

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics Sadly with tech you can never know when it fails. This player also has some weak points in the desing of power board capasitors close of hot parts where they will be cooked to death sooner or later. It is even worse because there's no kind of wents for the heat to get out. Seen some samsung tv's die like that in the past, easy and cheap to fix thought.

I still plan on working on it, just needed a break from it. I need to get more info from Wilsenton.

There isn't a user adjustment on it, just an on/off switch.

Nothing on the underside to adjust the triggering? @@SkunkieDesignsElectronics

Nope. The user manual states it takes about 60 seconds to trigger.

Try the Baerwald, IMHO it sounds better.

Press the arm lift lever down for ~ 3 seconds while at rest. This will turn on the auto lift function. Worked for me and no 60 second delay. Worth a try.

Just once, no need to repeat.

Basically it's just a end of record lift. Useful if you are out of the room when the record ends.

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics Well of course! I cannot for the life of me understand why they do not make automatics for ALL turntables. So it lifts off the record, but does it go back to it's resting post?

No, it doesn't go back to the resting post, nor does it turn off. And it doesn't do it instantly, it takes up to a minute by design. I guess it's better than nothing, but worse than what turntables were capable of 50 years ago.

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics I had "cheap" children's turntables as a child in the 1950's..that returned and stopped!!! 1960 and 1970's the same thing......About 12 years ago I purchased the AT LP120 USB and was startled when I put it together that this was MANUAL return. Guess of course it was my fault for not inquiring, but heck didn't think there would be any question!!LOL Now I know I have to have everything explained before purchasing anything when dealing with turntables. So since you are in the business, could you possibly lead me to a good turntable that has both "Direct drive and at least 50% automatic? I don't mind all that much having to place the tonearm on the record, but having it shut off and return to its resting place is paramount for me. Since this technology has been available for even cheap record players, cannot understand why it isn't all that available? thanks in advance God Bless

Pretty sure to get automatic features, you are looking at a beld drive table.

Read other reviews, this is how it is designed to function. Panasonic reached out and explained that it indeed does take up to a minute to lift the tone arm.

@@SkunkieDesignsElectronics that's just crazy....My Technics SL-Q3 full auto works great but it's been professionally refurbed. .

My 50 year old belt drive semi auto technics table works flawlessly...

There are 2 setting, I tried this and then it lifted before the end of the song on some records.

I would think any grease that is "plastic safe" should be fine. Check at a hobby store.

Thank you so much