As someone who lives and drives (professionally) in North America I can say sadly this argument is only valid if drivers USED their turn signals…
@nchondakid2 жыл бұрын
Lol nobody where I live uses them either. It's especially dangerous when they're going 90 in a 65 swerving in between lanes and not using a signal at all.
@fuckinantipope55112 жыл бұрын
Maybe you guys need stricter driving schools to hammer it into peoples head to use turn signals
@unseenriver2 жыл бұрын
@@fuckinantipope5511 they show it in driving school properly, thing is, no cop has ever ticketed someone for not using signals, odd considering how traffic units seem to be old school tax gatherers for the city or gov
@Mike-ky8js2 жыл бұрын
I'm Happy if the Canadian driver uses their turn signal. Looking at you BMW and Audi.
@Zhiroc2 жыл бұрын
@@fuckinantipope5511 In most places, you only need to pass the exam--taking a driving lesson means nothing for a license.
@Stet173 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Despite the separate amber turn signal, the 2002 Odyssey still does not meet European lighting requirements due to the lack of rear fog lights.
@lazarustheatv83893 жыл бұрын
I know what rear fog lights are now so shut up Since when and where do cars have rear fog lights? I’m guessing it’s a Europe thing since it’s not something I’ve ever seen or heard of in the US About 20 or so people have now told me what rear fog lights are. No one else needs to
@napoleon9503 жыл бұрын
@@lazarustheatv8389 don't know exactly since when, but read fog light are mandatory to pass the yearly car inspection in my country. Front fog lights are optional. (Being seen is more important than you seeing. That's safer)
@matteodiena95203 жыл бұрын
@@lazarustheatv8389 it's a stronger red light that is very helpful to make you more visible to the other drivers that are driving behind you when there is a lot of fog. Idk NA but in EU it's really really helpful :) but some ppl use it when there is only a bit of fog and that's "dangerous" because as said before it's really strong light, must be used when there is a lot of fog
@diegosilang48233 жыл бұрын
Lol northern Europe are notorious for fog. This is why Europeans love CATIII auto landing.
@bradleymeyer97753 жыл бұрын
@@lazarustheatv8389 It is a European mandate for all cars sold in Europe, and all cars sold in Europe have a small turn signals on the side, either on the mirror, fender, or quarter panel and a rear fog light, no matter of it’s an American car, European car, or Asian car, all cars sold in Europe have to come with that. And in Canada, all cars sold there must have daytime running lights, in the US however, it didn’t matter if cars had standard daytime running lights, but all new cars have that, same it’s crash avoidance systems and back up cameras.
@BlaizeV Жыл бұрын
Also the amber light is useful for pedestrians crossing the road, knowing which direction a car is turning is something I look out for all the time.
@endorphinity28 күн бұрын
The car does not pose any danger to you as a pedestrian if you see its rear lights, as, most probably, it is moving forward, not reversing ;)
@RatsPicklesandMusic Жыл бұрын
I literally had a car dealership salesman while he was selling me my car, reassure me that "hey you can turn off the lane assist so that it doesn't beep cause, you know some people don't like to use turn signals with switching lanes" and I was dumbfounded....
@jpalharini Жыл бұрын
These are probably the same people that buy those devices off Amazon that trick the car into thinking you have your seatbelt on, so it doesn’t beep.
@RatsPicklesandMusic Жыл бұрын
@@jpalharini Wow... Didn't know those existed. 😬
@sg39g Жыл бұрын
Seriously?
@spiderofthehood6127 Жыл бұрын
@@RatsPicklesandMusic How many accidents have you been in? Seriously what a pointless comment.
@DemolitionMotorsports Жыл бұрын
@@RatsPicklesandMusicYeah, there’s a lot of them on the market. I’m not from the US, but in my country we have a lot of idiots with these devices. And what’s more idiotic, YOU CAN BUY ONE ON A GAS STATION OF ALL PLACES.
@trodat075 жыл бұрын
This is too advanced for the internet. There are plenty of people around the world that still doesn’t know they HAVE to use the turning lights.
@AwesomeO-px2kj5 жыл бұрын
Make me
@Omar-em7rl5 жыл бұрын
@@AwesomeO-px2kj [BMW Driver Detected]
@keithtanner28065 жыл бұрын
Most of these are BMW drivers. It seems they come as extras and few Beemer drivers appear to specify them..🙄🙄🙄
@evilstraussman5 жыл бұрын
keith tanner Beemers are motorcycles, Bimmers are cars 👍
@georgeeno_28155 жыл бұрын
trodat07 *Still dont* not doesn’t
@bmo37783 жыл бұрын
This guy is a master at turning 3 sentences into a 20 page essay
@anttitenhunen47253 жыл бұрын
I could use him while writing my masters thesis as I'm constantly falling short :D
@rowansheehan9063 жыл бұрын
Some people need the explanation
@tanman993 жыл бұрын
In an extremely humorous, entertaining and most importantly, informative way.
@oldschoolman14443 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha, had never given much thought to the difference until now. Probably because I've always bought toyotas. =)
@chrisconway99593 жыл бұрын
And we love him for it.
@AndrewMois Жыл бұрын
As someone who immigrated to Canada after all my life spent in Europe, I cannot tell you how I hate red turning signals. How many tricky situations I had with those car, especially in the traffic jam where you see only half of the car and they push brakes every second. I will never buy such a car for myself.
@arandominternetperson44626 ай бұрын
The US has really weird lighting regulations. The car's most important blinkers can be any color, while the front has to have these 90's looking orange reflector thingies on the headlights, making US-spec cars look 10 years older than they are.
@hosmerhomeboy5 жыл бұрын
The turn signal is best used randomly. This creates a fog of misinformation which will confuse the enemies surrounding you. This in turn makes it more difficult for them to foil your efforts.
@the_original_Bilb_Ono5 жыл бұрын
If you feel like it's scary being an experienced and cautious driver in today's road environment then imagine what it's like for us motorcyclist... It is a coin flip if I'll die every bike ride. It's most likely not going to be a fault of my own since the #1 rule on bikes is DRIVE AS THOUGH EVERYONE IS OUT TO KILL YOU or drive as though you are invisible to everyone on the road.
@viddork5 жыл бұрын
Oh. I've always had the impression that the #1 rule for motorcyclists is: Ride as if the lane dividers and other vehicles are a massive slalom course, and you're going for the gold medal.
@hosmerhomeboy5 жыл бұрын
@@viddork while doing 1.5-2x the speed limit! That way nobody sees you coming in time to foil your attempts at setting the record! Also, drop a gear right as you go past someone, just to stun them into momentary inaction whilst you speed away from their angry response!
@Lyle-xc9pg5 жыл бұрын
Bilb Ono, it sounds like your a standard motorcyclist
@diane92475 жыл бұрын
@this isn't... Fog of misinformation is especially useful in the USA. So, yeah...
@kadepow113 жыл бұрын
"Turn signals. They're a good invention. Use them." thank you for coming to my TED talk
@tin66763 жыл бұрын
just a reminder for BMW drivers
@sussysusan44363 жыл бұрын
@@tin6676 hahahaha
@peterrice88253 жыл бұрын
@@tin6676 That goes double for M-series drivers.
@aadi85683 жыл бұрын
BMW drivers don't agree
@MythosGandaar3 жыл бұрын
Sadly a TED talk that a lot of people should attend
@ellamayo9045 Жыл бұрын
Having lived in the US my whole life, I never even noticed this! To clarify, I’ve noticed that some cars used specific amber lights to indicate turning, but I never thought that this was anything other than a stylistic choice, let alone something that ought to be standardized! After having watched this, it totally makes sense why it should be. But as so many others have pointed out, we’re just happy if people use turning signals at all, let alone consistently...
@gringusgaming9 ай бұрын
It sucks because in some places like New Orleans so many drivers are so braindead that nobody uses turn signals because some fool is bound to use that as a sign to fuck you over on the road somehow
@DefundTheFringesАй бұрын
Well, when they DO use them, all the better if amber. I don't know where you live, but turn signal scofflaws aren't the majority.
@robster77875 ай бұрын
Lol NHTSA just released their research findings and might be soon requiring manufacturers to implement amber turn signals since it has apparently resulted in reduced crashes.
@exoticcar54824 ай бұрын
Wait, when exactly was this? I don't see any recent articles, just the findings from 2009
@NeoTechni3 жыл бұрын
"Are you so concerned with saving a few dollars per car" You're talking about the industry that has a formula they use to determine if recalling a flawed car is more expensive than the lawsuits they'd face
@calculator18413 жыл бұрын
NTSB even tried covering up for Toyota's Prius brake & computer coding failures that injured and killed people.
@crafty_matt3 жыл бұрын
@@calculator1841 That was a hoax and then more people jumped on board for their piece of short lived fame (plus maybe some insurance fraud). Even on powerful sports cars the brakes will easily overpower the engine and stop the car.
@tomhath84133 жыл бұрын
No mechanical device will ever be 100% dependable. The engineers need to make the car very, very reliable - but in the end it comes down to how much money are you willing to spend to get a .0001% improvement; they can never make it perfect.
@davidhenderson34003 жыл бұрын
You're talking about the industry that let bad key switches kill some people when a 2 cent per car would have prevent it.
@north-shoregcs38943 жыл бұрын
Literally every industry does that it’s called cost benefit analysis. I see you haven’t been to college or taken many business classes if you have.
@davidpayne4310 Жыл бұрын
"Are you so concerned with saving a few dollars per car?" Yes. Yes, they are.
@michaellorah9051 Жыл бұрын
Remember, ford found it cheaper to pay out to those affected than fix the problem when Pintos were literally bursting into flames from rear end collisions.
@deauthorsadeptus6920 Жыл бұрын
@@michaellorah9051 If they though about safety in first place, they didnt have to replace all these cars and saved even more money. But why think of it, no one pays for good design, everyone pays for work hours.
@jkliao6486 Жыл бұрын
And not to mention Chevy didn't even bother to light up the main section of the tail light on their bolts and just used those tiny ones on the lower section of the vehicle.
@SleepyChloeFist Жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's a combination of "yes, it's cheaper" and also, "this is the way we've always done it" 😶🌫️
@billdickerson2228 Жыл бұрын
In the case of some of these - it's not even dollars, it's cents. The wiring is already there. My Jeep has a distinct wire for each light - one for right turn, one for left turn, one for left brake, one for right brake. Already 4 feeds (plus grounds) coming from the BCM so it's a matter of the light itself. It's already wired.
@guardian_agent17767 ай бұрын
As a former police officer, we were taught to always use our amber rear light bar lights because they can be seen from further away and in bad weather. This alone should be why all rear turn signals are amber.
@07wrxtr16 ай бұрын
This is the same reason why I like warmer 4300 kelvin bulbs > 5000k or the stupid leds that birn out your retinas on long drives. Warmer light is just better for bad weather and color rendering so you can watch for deer much easier…. I wish LED manufacturers would get the message and give us some warm white options > this blue white garbage…
@Etobio9 ай бұрын
I keep having to come back to this video every time crappy turn signals almost get me killed.
@accord_aero_r2 жыл бұрын
Also: "Signal your intentions, not your actions." Would appreciate it, people who don't signal until they're already half way into the next lane, or until _after_ they've already moved completely into a turn-only lane where the signal may or may not become redundant.
@WatchmakerErik2 жыл бұрын
"bUt iF I sIgNaL FiRst tHey WiLl cuT me OfF!!" I've heard this lame ass excuse before. I always signal before any turn or lane change.
@accord_aero_r2 жыл бұрын
@@WatchmakerErik You mean those people who seem to be perfectly fine cruising at their speed, leaving plenty of room in front of them, only to suddenly decide to speed up when another driver signals to get in front of them? Yeah, those people get on my nerves, too. "NO! This is MY lane!!!" God, the number of times I've had slow drivers jump in front of me at a red light just because they _had_ to have the empty lane, and then get pissy when I have to pass them on the right because I'd like to get up to the speed limit at some point...
@WatchmakerErik2 жыл бұрын
@@accord_aero_r yep, those people. My friend never used turn signals to change lanes because of them I hate them too but it's no excuse :(
@lanceash2 жыл бұрын
OH, and let's not forget people who think that you're supposed to turn on your turn signal if the person in front turns on theirs, regardless of your intention to turn or not. 15 cars waiting for only the first car to turn, all of them flashing their turn signals in vain. Stupid.
@trevize422 жыл бұрын
@@WatchmakerErik In Massachusetts this is the norm.
@RealitysSuccessor2 жыл бұрын
While this has always bugged me, I think the biggest issue of design over safety is with headlights. Driving around at night I've seen several newer cars with stylized LED strips for headlights. They look really cool but on some models they wrap around the front turn signals. I once almost hit someone head on at a 4-way stop because I couldn't see the right turn signal that was overpowered by the head light. Great example of "Just because you can doesn't mean you should".
@user-lv7ph7hs7l2 жыл бұрын
They're also bright AF especially Audi and BMW. Half the time I'm blinded.
@darianbarber37632 жыл бұрын
if you hit them, you could have probably tried to make a case against the manufacturer and raked in god knows how much if won
@thihal1232 жыл бұрын
I absolutely hate those led strips. They’re too bright and creates glare making it hard to see the other lights.
@baarsik2 жыл бұрын
Those LED strips are daylights, not a headlight replacement. And they definitely add to a pedestrian safety because they are enabled all the time. This is one of the best additions to a car tbh.
@christiangonzalez60542 жыл бұрын
Most day time running LED lights turn off when your turn signal is on.
@jk0423Ай бұрын
I love the Doug DeMuro car review intro “THIS is a Honda Odyssey”
@adamrobledo3996 Жыл бұрын
The headlight thing is so true. I can’t believe the countless amounts of people driving modern vehicles without headlights
@GenerationalSavant8 ай бұрын
There's so much light pollution and such congestion of other vehicles with extremely bright headlights it's too easy for someone to do in any kind of crowded area, and then as the crowd thins out they are a massive danger and still don't quite realize - yet. A car that does not have a sensor still has a clock. I don't understand why there isn't some kind of forced headlight - or at least a warning, for the love - in any modern even somewhat computer controlled vehicle. 9 or 10pm local time? HEADLIGHTS OFF pops up. Depending on aggressiveness/redundancy, it might miss dawn and dusk (which can be worse for that very reason), but always on daytime running lights have helped a lot w/that.
@nailsofinterest6 ай бұрын
Around here, for some reason, they do it on purpose!! 😡 One got pulled a few days ago because of it.. (a vehicle that has automatic headlights/tail lights) Surprise surprise they a bunch of drugs in vehicle. Way too much to be personal use. He got arrested for a bigger offense, and his children were in the vehicle. Had to get taken into care until family could be reached. (Middle of the night)
@Rickyp01234 жыл бұрын
"THISSSSSS Is a 2002 Honda Odyssey" love the reference my man
@juliusdalay4 жыл бұрын
Doug must be proud 😂
@SgtPowerWeiner4 жыл бұрын
How funny that we IMMEDIATELY thought of Doug! The man is a legend
@wisska14 жыл бұрын
Was searching for this comment
@Verdoux0074 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the audio quality is also intentionally lowered. Doug's mics are terrible.
@SaarphireTTV4 жыл бұрын
channeling his inner Doug DeMuro :D
@FerHivore3 жыл бұрын
I love how they combined two lights into one… only to still have it _look_ like two separate lights.
@Skorpeonismyrealname3 жыл бұрын
And then make two extra, separate "lights" that are on only for show.
@ebinrock3 жыл бұрын
It's called corporations cutting corners to cut costs and increase profits. But you know, ya gotta have your Apple Car Play! Also funny how they cut corners on the turn signals (safety!), but they put in all kinds of other nanny safety junk tech that somehow when people had brains didn't need in order to drive safely.
@ImARealHumanPerson3 жыл бұрын
@@Skorpeonismyrealname running lights arent just "for show" lmao.. Yikes
@carlomendoza54623 жыл бұрын
Huh? Look up a first gen GMC Acadia. The inner taillights and upper outer white elements don’t even light up as running lights
@xHadesStamps3 жыл бұрын
That's what gets me the most...
@robertstaples3256 Жыл бұрын
My favorite are the turn signals that move from left to right or right to left like a neon sign. They're called sequential turn signals. They're distracting, completely unnecessary, and, yes, usually Red when I see them.
@nigward.10189 ай бұрын
I mean tbh you can call it a distraction. But it is kinda like a more obvious signal
@Jwellsuhhuh9 ай бұрын
@@nigward.1018intuitively, and as a car designer, it appears to look cool and effective. But in reality, the extra visual movement does nothing for clarity, and as the OP said, is far too distracting to serve a real benefit beyond the traditional blinking amber light. Unfortunately though, these “left to right” signals are not common enough to gather reliable data to prove whether they’re effective or not.
@ghostie59238 ай бұрын
I have those on my mustang but I believe some Audi models have them too but they have to have a more obvious one alongside it due to US regulations mandating a certain size light be immediately visible with the turn signal.
@jsar54097 ай бұрын
How do you get distracted by a torn signal lmao
@BogeyTheBear6 ай бұрын
@@jsar5409"Gee golly! I don't see those very often! I wonder why more cars don't do that. Must be a style thing. But there are more bulbs to burn out. I wonder if this driver will even bother to replace a bulb that burns out because he has the other lights instead-- and the person behind me is honking because this train of thought has distracted me from the fact the light is now green."
@JBofBrisbane Жыл бұрын
Australia mandates amber turn signals on the rear. For US imports, this is usually achieved by recolouring part of the rear light cluster, but on '59 Chevys they actually underhung little bullet lights from the horizontal fins. Australia's problem was that for many years, the rear amber turn signals doubled as reversing lights. It was Japanese cars in the mid to late seventies that introduced us to separate white reversing lights. Oh, and my parents' 1971 XY Falcon had a "Stop Lamp Outage Telltale" as one of the warning lights on the panel. Nothing new.
@santiagopetrungaro3 жыл бұрын
That Doug DeMuro "This" was PERFECT!!!
@veedubgeezer3 жыл бұрын
I came to the comments hoping for a Daddy Doug reference. Wasn't disappointed.
@ahmeddawedd3 жыл бұрын
@@veedubgeezer I expected to see more comments man but Istg he did it perfectly
@kurtg54053 жыл бұрын
you from DougPosting too? haha
@jase10913 жыл бұрын
Hahah so glad to have seen this in the comments
@BobalouTheOneTheOnly3 жыл бұрын
I actually thought for a second i was gonna hear, "and next I am going to show you some of its quirks and features." lol
@FrederSnorlax5 жыл бұрын
damn i better never tick this guy off, he might make an extremely well researched, specific, and nuanced video about me
@oddmontsoddington89614 жыл бұрын
His hair, though.
@oddmontsoddington89614 жыл бұрын
@Dane Just trying to say, that hair gel budget.
@nicedubs81634 жыл бұрын
Utterly the worst and most nonsensical response on the internet. It takes the brain nearly a full second to register a cue, especially as you are doing something mundane like driving. It takes even longer when a problem is presented that requires an "understanding" such as registering that the signaling tail light is out with the other lit up. Also consider that pick up trucks and SUV block the entire view of what is happening in front. I can come up with dozens of scenarios in which the 'no yellow' dynamic creates problems. If you had any imagination at all you wouldnt act like this on KZfaq. Or ws that your modest attempt at being funny? If it was, the joke is very dated and unfunny. If it was a serious, the you're clearly completely ignorant.
@nicedubs81634 жыл бұрын
And whether there is any research or studies on this topic, the simple thought experiment detects the obvious flaw in this design. An actual engineer is enjoyed and coming up with stupid shit for a job and our "loves to intervene where it doesn't belong nor understand" government just goes "OH YEAH OKAY I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE AUTOMOBILES IS". It's obviously a terrible design. I'm laughing my ass off about people on the internet for whom [lights are way too complicated- me no understandy!!]
@PeruvianSmore4 жыл бұрын
Nice Dubs bro did you reply to the right comment orrrrr?
@ebrente Жыл бұрын
This practice began as a cost saving when turn signals were introduced and became common practice. German cars being retrofit with combo lights has to do with the size a turn signal must be as a percentage of brake light size. A lot of cars use a small amber LED strip for the turn signal which while functional, doesn’t satisfy US highway laws due to insufficient size.
@sleepydreamer5519 Жыл бұрын
I love that you introduced the Honda like you were Doug.😭
@martinlyhagen6166 Жыл бұрын
On modern cars in Europe the hazard lights will come on when you press hard on the brake pedal. This means that you can distinguish between a gentle braking (three lights) and a hard braking/panic braking (FIVE lights). A fantastic invention when things comes to a sudden halt on the highway due to traffic jam.
@mike_junmin Жыл бұрын
I believe the hazard lights come on only after you stop after the emergency braking. But some cars flash their brake lights during emergency braking. Anyone used to this fact(brake lights flashing with emergency braking) will stomp on their brake if they see the car in front start flashing both their brake lights(some American hazard lights), making it extremely dangerous for that person and everyone behind them
@android-user Жыл бұрын
@@mike_junmin Some cars will flash there hazard lights while (!) breaking, but the trend is going to flashing breaklights and turning hazard lights on (only) after a complete stop
@oditeomnes Жыл бұрын
flashes are also very rapid and can't be confused with the blinking sequence of the turn light
@martinlyhagen6166 Жыл бұрын
@@mike_junmin I don't THINK - I KNOW. I live in europe - i see it EVERY day driving to and from work. The hazard light that are flashing after you've stopped ar manually operated.
@lisderoa Жыл бұрын
It's a very good idea, but in older cars you can lit the emergency lights every time you believe you are slowing below the usual speed expected for that road. You mantain the emergency light till you see that the cars behind you are slowing behind you.
@shannonbriggs100 Жыл бұрын
I never fully understood how important indicators are until I started driving myself. I’ve also began to understand why my dad gets so annoyed when other drivers don’t indicate.
@scottmccrea1873 Жыл бұрын
My Mom was a Briggs so we are cousins. Perhaps quite removed but cousins.
@wally7856 Жыл бұрын
Yep, as a dad I concur. I don't care what you do on the road, just let me know your intentions beforehand so I can make plans.
@spiderofthehood6127 Жыл бұрын
Indicators are only important in highway congestion and intersections with pedestrians, other than that you don’t need them.
Жыл бұрын
@@spiderofthehood6127 Stay off the road.
@spiderofthehood6127 Жыл бұрын
@ Make me left lane hogger
@Aiantaschr3 ай бұрын
In my country( EU country) all cars have separate amber indicators and brake lights and once when I was driving behind a car that was brought by a non-EU country, I was so confused and didn't realise that they were indicating to turn( and turned and cut infront of me) and just thought that they were playing with the brakes.. It is literally so stupid to have the rear lights serve both functions! It's overcomplicated and requires you time to think to realise what other cars are doing!
@1vandoberman6 ай бұрын
Oh God yes!!! I always argued with my friends - fans of the American automobile industry - on this topic!! In my entire life I have not found anyone who would agree with me on this issue! And here is your video!! Thank you very much, Author!! Now I know that I am not alone in this opinion!!
@killerofold4 жыл бұрын
"Turn Signals. They're a good invention. Use them" I'm stealing that bit and using it
@cursedcliff75624 жыл бұрын
new bumper sticker
@timesthree57574 жыл бұрын
Never do. Not planing too.
@SeedemFeedemRobots4 жыл бұрын
BMW drivers: * confused screaming *
@namesbob1184 жыл бұрын
BMW drivers: No
@smitajky4 жыл бұрын
If you were in a war you NEVER telegraph your intentions to the enemy. Most drivers adopt the same mentality. You should never turn on a turning indicator until AFTER the turn is already commenced. This guarantees that other drivers are driving with more caution around you because they cannot know what you are going to do next.
@cediviannareeda43054 жыл бұрын
“hey Phil? Is my right indicator working?” “yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah, no”
@espengarriott65154 жыл бұрын
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@eldmusic4 жыл бұрын
A REALLY Underrated comment
@nthgth4 жыл бұрын
LMFAO 🤣🤣 awesome
@fredsanford39584 жыл бұрын
that guy has to love the stooges
@skylahenry8552 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention in some cars, when the headlights are on, the rear lights turn on red. Breaking or turning simply increases the brightness. It's terrible.
@alishehab1905 ай бұрын
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE ELSE SO MUCH AS THOUGHT OF THIS! Truly made my day that you made a video about it!
@jackcolson47453 жыл бұрын
1:03 now it's time to look at the qUiRks aNd fEaTuReS
@briti15433 жыл бұрын
THIIIS!!
@ME1D3 жыл бұрын
Doug rate🤣🤣
@SugaryHobgoblin3 жыл бұрын
Instantly subscribed for this subtle but clearly intentional joke. Fucking A+ work.
@Banglish1233 жыл бұрын
Bloody hilarious. He sort of half did a Doug for the Volt too.
@fridaycaliforniaa2363 жыл бұрын
*THIS* ! 😂 You killed me, I was about to comment the same thing lmao 😂
@gameskyjumper17215 жыл бұрын
Car in front of me: >breaks >slow down >makes a right turn >turn on blinker >finishes turn Me: *Facepalm* What's the point of the turn signal if you are already turning?
@gregwolking5 жыл бұрын
That's merely the driver in front of you courteously indicating (and/or arrogantly bragging about his driving prowess) that he has successfully initiated his turn! Then there's the case of (on a 2-or-more-lane road): 1. Vehicle is driving in right-hand lane. 2. Left signal begins blinking.. 3. Vehicle changes to left-hand lane.4. Vehicle continues down the road with signal still blinking unless and until the operator decides to make a right-hand turn. In Florida (and perhaps other states as well), this is known as an "eventual left". Some eventual lefts may not be completed until several miles have been traveled or, if it's a vehicle like mine, the dashboard starts dinging/beeping after the vehicle has traveled roughly a half mile or so with the blinker on.
@thatonedog8195 жыл бұрын
You must have been behind my step dad. The majority of the time, I have to tell him to signal.
@sepruecom5 жыл бұрын
*I* know where I'm going, and it's nobody else's business anyways. The turn signal is just a legal obligation I follow to avoid fines... (I must say I am guilty of waiting at traffic lights and only switching my turn signals on when the lights go green. I figure that could annoy other drivers, especially when I'm not standing at a marked turning lane...)
@augia50515 жыл бұрын
Im guilty of that. Ill forget to use it until im in the turn. Then i figure its better late then never lol
@BurntFaceMan5 жыл бұрын
You should be indicating for a minimum of 3 seconds before making any turn... EVER. sadly 90% of the fucking planet don't know this.
@robertwilliams86389 ай бұрын
As someone who lives and drives in North America we have zero problems discerning the difference even when a taillight is out.
@ulischmidt034 ай бұрын
Amber lights prevent amberguity
@jankyredstoner2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this video a year or two ago and thinking that this video essay had no pragmatic implications. However, over the course of the past year I have run into various instances where this sort of thing has become relevant. This guy actually makes some legit points.
@californiacajun45352 жыл бұрын
No
@Shakiahjprod2 жыл бұрын
In other words, you grew up?
@jankyredstoner2 жыл бұрын
@@Shakiahjprod what's that supposed to mean? What are you on about?
@atheos.13832 жыл бұрын
@@Shakiahjprod that makes no sense. Living in North America has resulted in most people here having little to no issues whatsoever recognizing a turn signal over a brake light. Brake/signal combinations have been around since before I was old enough to drive, and I've never once experienced any of the issues stated here. It seems like a no issue problem, unless you're just very used to amber being the only color used for signaling turns. Basically, it's YOUR lack of world experience causing you to have issues recognizing the difference between a brake light and a turn signal, yet you're saying a person who never experienced said issue was just being childish about it.
@ReformedThe2 жыл бұрын
@@atheos.1383 while that is true for car with fully working taillights running lights and blinkers. The same doesn't hold any water what so ever if any of the mention lights are out. You dont have this issue with yellow turn lights. . . . So to miss that the first time around is quite odd. Only takes a seconds or two to think about it. So really the whole Americans comment is mostly moot
@chaosvolt3 жыл бұрын
"People don't care about their own safety." Boy this aged like a fine wine.
@Aperson1563 жыл бұрын
"....or anyone else's"
@2007ghettonissanaltima3 жыл бұрын
@@ragingbullet3447 covid Happened a *year* ago.......
@lsixty303 жыл бұрын
yeah lets all stay inside to be safe, cant even say that nd have the sarcasm cme through now...
@2007ghettonissanaltima3 жыл бұрын
@Infamous Grizzly huh
@DunkinDonutGoesFast3 жыл бұрын
@Infamous Grizzly imagine being on a channel meant for people with higher intellect, and you have that genuinely shitty take
@RayRix6 ай бұрын
I'm from the former USSR. In the last few years we got a lot of American cars. And that's a real problem. I just wanted to say thank you for what you're doing.
@JohnSmithShields4 ай бұрын
For a country so keen on suing each other, and being picky about absolute rules, this is just crazy.
@daemoncan23644 жыл бұрын
"Are you so concerned with saving a few dollars per car?" GM's ignition switch problem (where people died) could have been solved for 57 cents. So yeah.
@Lunarfox4 жыл бұрын
thats misleading
@joeh49553 жыл бұрын
To be fair that’s 57 cents per car. If you make a lot of cars that’s suddenly a lot of money. Also you have to pay people to do the thing (I assume it’s a part so install or make it). Just because it sounds small does not mean it’s a barrel scrapping tactic.
@daemoncan23643 жыл бұрын
@@joeh4955 So it's ok to "do the math" and figure out it'll cost less to pay out court claims of people maimed or killed when your part (that you knew to be defective) fails. In my book, that's culplable negligence at best.
@joeh49553 жыл бұрын
@Daemon Can If they knew it was defective then yes that is negligence. But if they didn’t know or have a way of knowing and they chose to use cheaper parts, well that’s capitalism at work. I’m not familiar with the specifics of this case, I’m just commenting on the corporate structure of America.
@daemoncan23643 жыл бұрын
@@joeh4955 Indeed, they chose to use a cheaper part, and it was not up to spec. Where they failed was the fact that they knew there was a problem in 2005, yet did not issue a general recall until 2014 due to "cost issues". Their actuaries ran the numbers and decided it was cheaper to litigate/pay out claims than fix the problem at the time. In fact, if someone hadn't sued them and gotten depositions from some of the rogues involved, GM would have probably continued to deny the issue. The Wikipedia page on this is quite good. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_ignition_switch_recalls#Cause_of_ignition_failure
@andreimaidan59314 жыл бұрын
when i've heard "This is a 2002 Honda Odyssey" I couldn't think of anyone but Doug Demuro Edit: now zztthisss is my most liked comment ever, thanks guys!
@yassinefilms2724 жыл бұрын
Glad im not the only one lmfao
@Srinathji_Das4 жыл бұрын
THIS!!...is a 2020 Nissan blah blah blah, and it is the COOLEST sentence ever.
@sleepless90034 жыл бұрын
I can't tell the difference
@russellriedel16554 жыл бұрын
WHEN I BREAK OF WATCHING DOUG DEMURO AND I WATCH TECH VIDEOS
@sonyrich10104 жыл бұрын
Thisssssss
@nolanfaught6974 Жыл бұрын
As an American, I operate on the assumption that drivers either won't use their turn signals or will use them incorrectly. If you drive in North America, you cannot trust lights on cars for anything other than visibility. The studies and evidence pointed to seem sound, but this should not be a priority until people use turn signals properly and consistently.
@srs-bznss Жыл бұрын
Even in the case of visual impairment (i.e., not being able to distinguish red from amber), the presence of separate bulbs for braking and signaling helps convey different meanings. Another point of discussion related to these lights is the ambiguity of tail lights and brake lights. In my experience, most vehicles use the same bulb for tail lights and brake lights. The only difference in meaning is how bright the light is, which one really can't determine unless one can safely assume the tail lights aren't already illuminated or sees illuminated tail lights get brighter. I think a solution to this would be to standardize tail lights to illuminate the outside border of a light assembly (i.e., the outline of a square/rectangle) and for brake lights to illuminate the rest of the light assembly (i.e., everything but the outline).
@hazem29335 жыл бұрын
they turn red when they running low but they turn amber once you fill them up with blinker fluid
@Darca1n5 жыл бұрын
That is stupid. Just have them be amber and have an indicator light for low fluid instead.
@TwexLex145 жыл бұрын
Oh shit thanks for the tip man.
@vedhil5 жыл бұрын
nice
@michaelsarosy92105 жыл бұрын
RadeonAesthetics you are officially the most intellectual person here cause of this comment
@Frungi5 жыл бұрын
Better pick it up at the store along with some elbow grease.
@boyguapito19 ай бұрын
_”Turn signals. They’re a good invention. Use them.”_ *YOU HEARD THAT BMW AND TESLA OWNERS?!*
@Dev77tv9 ай бұрын
As an individual in North America, I’d just like to thank you, TC, for the existence of this video.
@kagitsune3 жыл бұрын
Any time your designer relies on a "good defensive driver", you are inviting a crash. Also surprised the brake light circuit monitor isn't standard yet.
@KOZMOuvBORG3 жыл бұрын
Recall seeing ads of stateside cars having blown light indicators in the 70s, and drivers tend to favor being offensive.
@exoticcar54823 жыл бұрын
It actually used to be standard and now it's not
@lochinvar004653 жыл бұрын
like many features, you could make one and install it if you want it.
@upyoursassmonkey3 жыл бұрын
I had one on a Nissan 300zx, the irony was the module got screwed up and it would throw the warning when the lights were working fine.
@Primalxbeast3 жыл бұрын
We all have break light monitors. They're called police. At least that's how you end up finding out that your break light is out most of the time. They aren't very easy to check on your own.
@leviathanhomecooking5 жыл бұрын
driving tips: - ALWAYS use your turn signal even if no one is around and you're in the middle of nowhere. This will condition an automatic response and make you less likely to forget in the future. - turn on your turn signal BEFORE you brake - if you and the driver across from you in a 4-way stop are both going straight YOU CAN BOTH GO AT THE SAME TIME
@TheKtm300rider5 жыл бұрын
another one is if you are making a left turn at a light without an arrow, if you pull into the intersection under green and you don't get the opportunity to go until the light changes you are still allowed to make your turn even if the light has already turned red. Basically the color of the light only applies if you haven't entered the intersection yet.
@Tahngarthor5 жыл бұрын
- if you and the driver across from you in a 4-way stop are both going straight YOU CAN BOTH GO AT THE SAME TIME Not a good idea to trust this because of the far-too-many people who fail to signal turns.
@OnyDeus5 жыл бұрын
The last tip is wrong in California, and something my DMV test taker dinged me on. Honestly that line of thinking is probably the worst thing for congested 4 way stop signs. If everyone just waited until the person on the left went there would be no confusion when some people turn and some go straight.
@invictusdomini86245 жыл бұрын
Check the vehicle code for your state: signals aren't always required. Many states only require them when the turn or lane change is likely to interfere with other drivers' paths of travel.
@cinnabarsonar20725 жыл бұрын
Number 4 may very well save your life...
@FarmYardGaming Жыл бұрын
Stupid design for definite. Another thing I've thought of is the fact that someone might be expecting the amber signals on some cars and never see them thanks to the fact that it isn't unified.
@razeel20004 ай бұрын
Here in Germany (well, it's probably the case everywhere else too) I've noticed that there are newer cars with LED daylight driving lights that double as indicator lights. To me, this is not looking better and it is also irritating. I can't imagine that the manufacturer saves that much money with this.
@benzminibusdoc2 жыл бұрын
In Iran all heavy vehicles have a brake light in the front, and once I got used to it, it helped to figure out whether it would be safe to do a left turn in sight of an oncoming truck, more generally helped to anticipate the truck's trajectory
@scottatlas73592 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea, I'm surprised more countries don't do that
@jggouvea2 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea. If a car repeatedly brakes behind you, and you're a member of the 20% of mankind who are kind, you will just let him pass. The other 80% will play Gandalf.
@StupidIsMyJob2 жыл бұрын
@@jggouvea Why would they *brake* behind you when they want to assholishly insist on you letting them pass, when they have a perfectly good horn at their disposal? Passive-aggressive road rage? Plus, if you're in a one-lane road, usually they can pass after waiting like two minutes for the striped lines to show up. If you're on a road with more than that and there's someone occupying the other lanes, they're SOL, and if they can't wait, they can suck a fart, it sucks to suck.
@ShawFujikawa2 жыл бұрын
@@StupidIsMyJob The horn isn’t supposed to be used to bully slower drivers either, please don’t encourage that behaviour.
@SaintNyx2 жыл бұрын
@@StupidIsMyJob Stay out of the left lane, you bloody slowpoke.
@LGR6 жыл бұрын
Now that I've seen how much thought you put into turn signals, I must know your opinion on the "lobster claws" design trend.
@zarsasilver6 жыл бұрын
im allergic to lobster
@maxh7716 жыл бұрын
I just read that in your voice, Clint...
@AlphaCore_6 жыл бұрын
Oh hi Clint!
@TechnologyConnections6 жыл бұрын
Ehh... it's fine but there are better and worse designs. It seems like Honda made the most recent Civic, then Ctrl-C Ctrl-V'd it onto every dang car they make, and the rest of the industry is following along. The unoriginality is the real shame. But there are thorns in my side. The new Lexus NX 200t has the *stupidest* brake lights I've ever seen--the main emitter is three tiny LEDs shoved into an itty bitty corner. Yes the red chevron also lights up, but it's not a concentrated beam--more like running light intensity. In direct sunlight all you can see is a spot about the size of a quarter. I don't know how they got away with that!
@alansikes15266 жыл бұрын
Ha !
@prestonm.643 ай бұрын
As a North American, I’m proud to drive a vehicle with dedicated rear amber turn signals.
@colethetroll03 Жыл бұрын
1:03 mans did the Doug DeMuro "this"
@spyone48285 жыл бұрын
I recently learned a bit more about this, and was reminded of this video. 1) A big reason why some cars that have amber rear turn signals in Europe don't in the US is that the US requires the lights to be a minimum size (I have seen 50 square cm and 2200 square mm quoted). That is, if the car has separate brake and tail lights, they must both be that size, but if there is only one light it still only needs to be that size: having separate turn signals and brake lights doubles the amount of space you need for lights. Also, about 4 years ago Mazda spokespeople explained to members of the automotive press that the US versions of their cars didn't get the cool sequential arrow turn signals used in the rest of the world because US law said each of the sequential lamps had to meet that minimum size. 2) you will be pleased (or annoyed) to know that there IS data to support your hunches: a 2009 NHTSA study shows cars with amber rear turn signals are 5.3% less likely to be hit, compared with the 1986 study that showed cars with third brake lights were 4.3% less likely to be hit. And a study by the University of Michigan showed people react faster to the brake lights on cars with amber rear turn signals. And not only is there no scientific evidence to support the idea that bigger lights are better (the US standard was developed by the Society of Automotive Engineers in the 50's, mostly arbitrarily), but a 1993 study by the NHTSA found bigger lights made no difference. www.acarplace.com/2018/01/index/ That article is sprinkled with pictures of the export versions of classic US cars showing off their amber rear turn signals.
@notsogreatsword16074 жыл бұрын
SpyOne cool stuff thanks for posting
@obadaalomari18214 жыл бұрын
This was actually interesting
@obadaalomari18214 жыл бұрын
turn signals don't have to be big if they're bright but tell that to the dumbass that makes these laws
@bar100054 жыл бұрын
As for the sequential arrow turn signals, there's a workaround - apparently US code specifies minimum area, but only at the start of a flash cycle, so it can be done by flashing entire light then leaving just one LED lit, that way it's still considered the same cycle, and transitioning into arrow turn signal. Doug DeMuro reviewed at least one car that had this solution, but I can't remember which one was it.
@Myrtone4 жыл бұрын
First of all: Per 3:44, tail lights sharing the function of turning signals and brake lights is ambiguous even when both brake lights are working. If it the minimum size for tail lights in North America were the same as the rest of the world, then separate tail lights for braking and turning would surely be more common and in that case, I'm sure Alec would have had a lot less to say in this video. And if red rear blinkers were allowed but still had to be separate from the brake lights, I don't think this video would have much to say at all.
@aftertheelectrike18473 жыл бұрын
"THIS is a Honda Odyssey [...]" Reminded me of Doug DeMuro there
@DriveSlow3 жыл бұрын
The whole section was Doug lol
@chilionkel44893 жыл бұрын
He should have made a cameo, and say "Hey... that's what I say!" 🤣
@bayareanewman15663 жыл бұрын
I came here to say this too! That HAD to be intentional!
@yerpster3 жыл бұрын
That was the point
@MidnightVibesMedia3 жыл бұрын
This whole video is eerily similar to Doug De Muro 😗
@RoseCurry59 ай бұрын
What really pisses me off is when people slow down before turning on their signal. The signal is an indication that you are about to slow down. Slowing down is not an indication that you're about to signal. 😤
@sethfrankel35429 ай бұрын
I find myself irritated by poor signaling as well, and I remind myself of what my defensive driving instructor said when I was a teen. She said that you can rely on other drivers to use their vehicles incorrectly. Your job is to use what information you can pull from the situation, such as slowing down without warning and not indicating why, and react in anticipation of what may occur…and not just by shaking your head in disgust (ok, I do that as well!). Luckily, braking alone even without a turn signal share enough information to avoid almost all accidents. She said that it’s not about being right. It’s about not getting hurt or hurting others.
@androidunit568 ай бұрын
Also I’ve encountered cars with all red tail lights and they press the brake periodically and it has perfectly lined up with the normal repetition of a blinker, so then I think they are trying to change lanes into me, but they are just braking weirdly
@joeyteter93833 жыл бұрын
I’d love to start at just getting people to use their turn signals in general. One of my top 3 pet peeves on the road
@DrNickBailey2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I've stopped police cars (while on my bike) and told them off for not indicating.
@joeyteter93832 жыл бұрын
@@DrNickBailey good, at least someone else is fighting the good fight. It just kills me, it’s probably the thing that takes the least amount of effort inside a vehicle since most of them are within reach with your hand already on the wheel
@ZirkyPlays2 жыл бұрын
1. People who don't use turn signals 2. People who go under the speed limit in normal driving conditions 3. Slow drivers in the left lane.
@ZirkyPlays2 жыл бұрын
@@DrNickBailey that's some Karen tier stuff. Just yell at them and keep going like people do in their cars.
@joeyteter93832 жыл бұрын
@@ZirkyPlays yes, yes and yes. A very viable top 3
@arposkraft36163 жыл бұрын
"are you so concerned with making a few dollars per car" : car manufacters: "yes"
@nikkiofthevalley3 жыл бұрын
That's actually a massive difference, even 3 pennies would be devastating. Most of the big car companies sell so many cars that even 3 pennies would make them lose millions. Edit: I wrote this at 2 AM, so I didn't think of the stuff other people have said. I will now ignore any more replies concerning what I was saying before.
@Kevin-mx1vi3 жыл бұрын
@@nikkiofthevalley like they don't pass on the cost to the buyers ?
@jimmym33523 жыл бұрын
I think it's more of an aesthetics thing than a cost saving thing. It makes engineers life's easier that they don't have to find "room" to put the light. This is especially true on cars with smaller rear profiles. Many sports cars don't have an amber light for this reason.
@RealNameNeverUsed3 жыл бұрын
@@jimmym3352 Ferrari can fit all three lights in a single circle and they still look aesthetically pleasing. 🤷🏼♀️. Also the missing amber bulbs in Chevrolet Cruze is definitely an example of that 3 pennies cost cutting.
@samuelbockle94403 жыл бұрын
@@nikkiofthevalley obviously in comparision to other companies they dont since they only can sell them in canada and the usa
@florianblume31 Жыл бұрын
In fact, in Europe a flashing red light can also indicate turning. That is, when you have the imported vehicle of an American soldier in front of you.
@donnyjay9046 Жыл бұрын
Even as a child of 15 watching American movies in the U.K., I couldn’t get my head around this style of indicating.
@caubilsou762 Жыл бұрын
I'm living in Europe and saw that type of signals in some US cars and didn't understand why it's designed like that. So thank you for explaining, even if I'm not sure why they did this, I know how they did this 😅👍
@exoticcar5482 Жыл бұрын
It began in the early 20th century when amber reflectors and marker lights denoted the front of a vehicle and red denoted the rear before two way traffic was standardized. As a result of this, amber was actually illegal to use for the rear of cars in the US and this continued for many years even long after this standard was enacted. Amber rear turn signals were actually illegal in the US when they first came out all the way up to the late 60s. As always, US is always slow with their regulatory changes for cars. Europe and others already mandated amber turn signals front and rear by the 1950s but despite America mandating them in 1963 for the front of cars, they still didn't allow them on the rear of cars until around 1968 or so after years and years of European manufacturers selling vehicles in the US at the time begging for it. However this law only gave manufacturers the option to use them and didn't require them by any means. This unfortunately has never changed in the 50+ years since and now it's so backwards as all these companies that would be (and indeed were) begging to use amber turn signals for their US models back then are now willingly switching up their taillight functionality to inferior red turn signals for cars sold here.
@caubilsou762 Жыл бұрын
@@exoticcar5482 Thank you for this precisions 👍
@briank10101 Жыл бұрын
It's annoys me when drivers only turn on their turn signals during their turn and not ahead of the turn. They should be called indicators in the US like they're named in the rest of the world and people then might not only turn them on as they're turning.
@dobrowolsk Жыл бұрын
Also, as an European, I have no clue how these US cars are allowed to drive here.
@exoticcar5482 Жыл бұрын
@@dobrowolsk Wait so some cars imported to Europe are doing red turn signals? There must be some type of corrupt trade agreement(s) going on
@KalokesMysteries2 жыл бұрын
I feel like people have been trying to get the manufacturers to STOP this for years, but they keep mistaking it as left turn.
@discobecky91794 ай бұрын
>15k dislikes in what UNIVERSE is ANY of this disagreeable ????
@kev20343 ай бұрын
How dare you criticize america - the dislikers, probably
@penek60883 ай бұрын
it’s a silly over exaggerated video, if you can’t tell a car is slowing down then you should not be on the road.
@gundalfthelost16243 ай бұрын
Americans are VERY insecure and they get upset very easily when even the slightest criticism is aimed at them.
@teamracing6 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! This is my biggest pet peeve on vehicles. I have actually NOT purchased a vehicle because it didn't have separate yellow turn signals.
@communisttrash85903 жыл бұрын
“Turn signals, their a good invention. Use them” BMW drivers: imma pretend I didn’t hear that
@Birdassasin3 жыл бұрын
Also Audi and Mercedes-Benz drivers from my experience.
@rjgaynor83 жыл бұрын
Come to NY no one uses them.
@dmitrygear3 жыл бұрын
I would say nowadays it's more true about Tesla drivers - they seem forgotten how to operate a car.
@MrSlinsley3 жыл бұрын
imma pretend you don't know the difference between "they're" and "their"
@Supatrader3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSlinsley who's Imma?
@HCkev4 жыл бұрын
BMW drivers: "I have absolutely no idea what this video is all about"
@LukasFink14 жыл бұрын
It’s obviously about these lights that _automatically_ start to blink before a car makes a turn.
@PncK644 жыл бұрын
Tbf it's usually not the drivers fault but the bimmer itself
@MadDog7XL4 жыл бұрын
I bought a used BMW and the first thing that failed was the indicator. It's by design.
@robertklowe4 жыл бұрын
I know with BMW there is a Euro spec and a US spec version. In Australia all the bmw's come from germany (or at least somewhere making the eurospec version...probably mexico or south africa) and have amber turn signals. In the states and Canada they all have the red turn signals...the US spec versions also have some other slight differences
@camerond81764 жыл бұрын
If you ever feel your job is useless......................Remember, it's someone's job at the BMW, AUDI and MERC factories to install the turn signals.
@cacaboss227 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much. so many times have i been annoyed by red turning signal when i thought it was braking because i could only see them from a side for a split second
@sneezingfrog4 жыл бұрын
The solution for this here in California is just incredibly simple; no one uses turn signals, ever. No ambiguity at all. Problem solved.
@blaquenoise4 жыл бұрын
Same here in the northeast.
@FroggyMosh4 жыл бұрын
Ah, another cultural crossover with the beautiful Netherlands. Some drivers here saw how you solved this problem and decided to mimic that. Now they have one hand free to enjoy their Stroopwafel at all times. 2 birds with 1 stone.
@Mike_Dubo4 жыл бұрын
Same problem in Texas. Everytime I go into the nearest city, it seems more and more people forget what a turn signal is. Along with what speed limits are.
@66810964 жыл бұрын
That's because when we use the turn signal people take that as their signal to hit the accelerator to stop you from "cutting them off" and they accelerate to stop you from getting in their lane no matter how far back they are.
@theirishscion4 жыл бұрын
@@6681096 Bingo! Houston was the _worst_ for that, leading to the Malicious Compliance version of turn signals; engaged when you're _just_ far enough ahead that you know they won't _quite_ be able to pull forward and block you off in time, but not a millisecond earlier. Always a fun game.
@vizender3 жыл бұрын
GM : spend around 2000$ in ads for each sold vehicles Also GM : we won’t add 2 light bulbs because to expensive smh
@zhila59583 жыл бұрын
seems like something GM would definitely do
@fltfathin3 жыл бұрын
To be fair they have incentive on breaking cars from crashes (more purchase)
@poolio20013 жыл бұрын
The silverados made I believe after 2006 made it have 2 brake lights on each side where the earlier ones had either amber blinkers or separate red lights for blinkers.
@ema82463 жыл бұрын
Most new GM cars uses LEDs instead of light bulbs. Some lower trim cars might have light bulbs and most of them are different from the brakes.
@kailoucleary60253 жыл бұрын
My theory is that most car manufacturers do it for aesthetic reasons as well as cost.
@rbdriftinАй бұрын
British guy here, had no idea this is what it's like on US cars and I'm kind of shocked.
@rayschoch5882 Жыл бұрын
It's stupidity, and a compulsion to save… maybe 50¢… that drives American auto designers to do this. I drove a '95 Neon for 15 years and just short of 250,000 miles without a crash, and wondered the whole time why, given the very large size of the taillight bezel, Chrysler couldn't have added an amber turn signal. A few years after I donated the car (no more new ECUs were available when mine went bad), I came across a photo online of a '95 Neon in Japan. That taillight bezel had both a red AND an amber lens, with separate bulbs for each, and both were sufficiently sized, so the lack of an amber turn signal on Neons for the American market was sheer short-sightedness.
@summotion.62883 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this "feature" in a Doug DeMuro video and thinking, "Wow, that's really cool, wonder why I've never seen this here in Europe?". That's why. It kills people.
@teslashark3 жыл бұрын
You see the Cruze ass at 07:21? That is a working blinker in the asian pacific model Cruze made by GM Shanghai. Yep, they turned it into a placeholder for the American model.
@punknowledge22003 жыл бұрын
According to a 2009 report from the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, “amber signals show a +5.3% effectiveness in reducing involvement in two-vehicle crashes where a lead vehicle is rear-struck in the act of turning left, turning right, merging into traffic, changing lanes, or entering/leaving a parking space. The advantage of amber rear turn signals is shown to be statistically significant.”
@fltfathin3 жыл бұрын
@@punknowledge2200 that means 5% less new car sales for car industry you dolt /s
@yamomsballs3 жыл бұрын
I just always figured you needed some sort of common sense to drive, but I guess not and everything has to be laid out on a silver platter now.
@Cyber-Riot3 жыл бұрын
@@yamomsballs What does "common sense" have to do with not noticing something? Even extremely intelligent people sometimes don't notice something. Making that something more distinct from other somethings makes is more likely to be noticed.
@Marshal_Dunnik5 жыл бұрын
Whenever you're feeling completely useless, just remember that it's somebody's job to install turn signals on a BMW
@leandrog27855 жыл бұрын
A machine's job, most likely. But people spent even more effort designing/programming/building the machine to do that...
@andrewmichael13545 жыл бұрын
@@leandrog2785 Unless they spent even more effort designing/programming/building the machine that built that machine...
@2Addictive5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Michael Or those who spent their whole lives on efforts to designing/programming/building a machine that makes more machines reserved just to build one machine...
@Procrastinator19485 жыл бұрын
Betting that I use the signals on my BMW more than you do on whatever you drive.
@0xCAFEF00D5 жыл бұрын
Arguably they're just fulfilling the minimum legal requirement when they design turn signals for BMW. So it's a vital task. It's just not much practical use for the users.
@wanderingwonder111Ай бұрын
It's so bizzare because regulations and manufacturing does all this.... for motorcycles. Motorcycles always have amber turn signals and DRL (including the brakelight)
@erikweiman4804 Жыл бұрын
And this is why I installed the “export” lamps on my Cadillac STS (2008) in export models you get amber signals with a clear lens and even an extra row of LEDs to supplement the original two rows of LEDs. Much safer design and 100% plug and play. Oh and also added the OEM rear fog lamps which also should be a thing here.
@that_one_pole176 ай бұрын
They are mandated here
@stormmaster1082 жыл бұрын
Amber feels so natural in turn signals that to me the american all red design looks a little strange. And a combined stop/turn signal is an outright atrocity that is a real safety hazard. I hope manufacturers and insurance agencies will pay attention to your videos. Thank you for drawing attention to this problem!
@ahalfsesameseedbun74722 жыл бұрын
It's not really that bad because most people don't use their turn signals a yway
@Spider-tank7552 жыл бұрын
@@ahalfsesameseedbun7472 lol true, that isn't so good though, like here in Italy when someone doesn't use the turn segnal I fucking scream at them to turn it on, too many times I almost crashed because people turned in front of me without using turn signals
@quiksilver3302 жыл бұрын
German cars as well I’m sure there are others. Not just American cars
@v_spw43552 жыл бұрын
Plus the new mustang turn signals are much better.
@user-is2mj2ig4v2 жыл бұрын
@@Spider-tank755 you Italians drive like ur in a rally cant even cross the street normally
@verndelap5 жыл бұрын
Haha, he just straight Doug DeMuored that odyssey intro.
@erowidoz5 жыл бұрын
Doug Dimmadome DeMuro?
@justinl20095 жыл бұрын
@@erowidoz Owner of the Doug Dimmadome.
@Bert19865 жыл бұрын
Yep :D classic
@i0.0t5 жыл бұрын
beautiful homage
@dominicro5 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@Nkana1953 Жыл бұрын
In most European countries it's mandatory for amber & red lights to be fitted to all vehicles by car manufacturers. Certainly here in the UK.
@jasweengujral8 ай бұрын
I thought no one was ever gonna address this issue. In north America most turn signals are red. Which is so confusing
@petermescher3325 жыл бұрын
Nobody would know if a BMW had amber turn signals or not, since their drivers never seem to use them.
@watcherob4 жыл бұрын
this is a underrated comment.
@ebiljebus4 жыл бұрын
A man is driving down the highway when a BMW changes lanes in front of him using its turn signals. The man immediately pulls over to call the police and report a stolen BMW.
@gamechep4 жыл бұрын
Where did this joke emerge from? I heard it on another car channel, I think Engineering Explained...
@Lacerated1DJ34 жыл бұрын
Omg this is an ongoing joke amongst professional drivers
@esmokah4 жыл бұрын
BMW owners use their turn signals, it's just that poor people can't see them.
@kingarthurthethirdthst38043 жыл бұрын
Alec: to manufacturers who are continuing to use this lighting setup, I have two words... Me: fu... Alec: STOP IT! Me: STOP IT!
@Crallux3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought
@philippeleprohon48233 жыл бұрын
What I thought myself XD
@pg91933 жыл бұрын
yo im right there with you hahahaha
@Jaronekv3 жыл бұрын
Me: f*ck you
@ethan-se6yq2 жыл бұрын
I literally said it out loud😭
@hardcor13132 ай бұрын
I've been told there is a special place in hell for people who never use their turn signals.
@jjvigilante6 ай бұрын
I basically live on the road and I can surely say that lately lesser and lesser people are using their turn signals, people became so self important that they think when they put a turn signal they're doing someone a favor
@dianeridley98045 жыл бұрын
I'm satisfied if the driver in front of me uses the turn signal at ALL.
@richardcain77195 жыл бұрын
even the old that suppose to know better will not give a signal
@Arlae_Nova5 жыл бұрын
Is it that common for Americans to not use turn signals?
@jequirity15 жыл бұрын
memyselfandY21 Yep. It’s super frustrating.
@justanoman64975 жыл бұрын
@@Arlae_Nova If you actually track the number of people who don't, it's not all that common. However, it is common enough to be noticeable and encountered on at least a weekly basis, so common enough to be infuriating.
@SabinStargem5 жыл бұрын
@@justanoman6497 Weekly? In my case, I see at least a couple dozen folk not using their turn signals during my work day. This isn't counting the jerks who slingshot around my car. :(
@imperiumcommentingnetwork46773 жыл бұрын
I like it when mirrors have an amber turn signal on them.
@gang-yc4je3 жыл бұрын
it honestly looks kinda nice, i also like the brake light turn signal because it looks nice too lol
@bridgetthewench3 жыл бұрын
I've seen that on a lot of larger vehicles, and it's a good idea, especially when they're trying to merge.
@gang-yc4je3 жыл бұрын
@@bridgetthewench my 2007 dakota has amber brake lights and i'm considering getting replacement rear lights without amber lights jus for style
@jameshaley58263 жыл бұрын
Drivers who don't signal their intentions apparently have none.
@greennin3 жыл бұрын
Turn signals on mirrors are mandated in Europe now too
@missingno2401 Жыл бұрын
got stuck behind someone who had a broken tail light and thought they were turning so i came back here
@subforry10 ай бұрын
To my eyes, red turn signals sometimes get washed out in bright sunlight, where as the amber doesn't
@Knallteute3 жыл бұрын
Here in Germany it's encouraged to use your hazard lights at the end of a traffic jam on the Autobahn. It is known to save lifes. Also don't your indicator lights on the dash don't blink faster when a indicator is out.
3 жыл бұрын
As well some newer cars turn on hazard lights automatically when breaking hard
@ambergray69453 жыл бұрын
Yep but as it don't happen often and sometimes it takes a few tries to realize it's blinking faster
@dalehadley32833 жыл бұрын
They do blink faster,even on older cars in the US
@kylefowler50823 жыл бұрын
In America some models do have blinkers that behave differently when one is out and others dont. For example in my Ford work van the turn signal does speed up when a blinker is out. In my personal Dodge truck however nothing changes. In America it is really scatter shot among manufacturers and their models in how or even whether the driver is alerted to a lamp issue. Long ago I had a 93 Camaro that requires the third tail light to work for cruise control to operate. Funny enough that was the only thing Chevy apparently cared about. My in law had a 2006 Windstar that would turn on the check engine light when it detected a light out. Nothing like needing a scan tool to figure out that issue. In my Dodge truck no F's are given when a light goes out.
@diamondhumphrey93833 жыл бұрын
They blink faster on older cars here in the United States when one of the turning lights are blown out.
@tezinho814 жыл бұрын
Having amber turn signals is also consistent in the sense that red means stop, amber means 'pay attention, caution', just like on traffic lights. In Europe at least, it's also the rule for emergency vehicles, where motorway breakdown and maintenance use flashing amber lights up top (blue is reserved for police, ambulance, fire).
@terry22953 жыл бұрын
true we over here in Europe have pretty good traffic rules
@exoticcar54823 жыл бұрын
It is also important when changing lanes. Ironically he left it out in the video, but when you're in dense traffic and you can only see one of the taillights of the cars in adjacent lanes, you won't know that a red light is a turn signal as it will appear as a solid red light until it goes out for the first time and then come back on in the same time interval. The red may just mean the driver in the lane left or right of you is braking, but a turn signal of a separate color will alert you that a driver intends to merge into the lane you're in much more quickly and effectively than a blinking light of the same color (or same light in the case the brake light is also stupidly enough the turn signal as well).
@i_sniff_blue95693 жыл бұрын
@@gg-eo6ez Unless it's a tow truck - in some states (maybe all?) they're permitted to use the ol' red and blue just like the police. I live in Kansas and it's always a crapshoot on whether you're about to come across someone getting a ticket or getting a tow.
@henriquedantas57483 жыл бұрын
Well, Amber (Amarillo-auto) in spain is reserved for evergency vehicles (except police, police usew blue) , Slow vehicles and tow trucks. The law was changed recently and every emergency vehicles needs to have blue lights
@RogueAstro853 жыл бұрын
@@gg-eo6ez The problem is that everytime I've seen roadwork on a highway there are 5-10 cops just chilling and doing nothing with their lights on
@trenton7379 ай бұрын
I see more of an issue with turn signals being low on the bumper than the bulb being orange.
@Arturino_Burachelini Жыл бұрын
three hazards' twinkles on the move in Eastern Europe is a gesture of gratitude.
@TaronTT4 жыл бұрын
Plus, a common feature on European cars: flashing braking lights on hard braking, is impossible with this setup.
@RivieraByBuick4 жыл бұрын
yes. it is mandatory on all new cars for european market
@GIBbeerDST4 жыл бұрын
Additional thing - when we (Europeans) see just a single stronger lit red taillight (for example 5th car ahead of me) I have a clear signal that I should be prepared for braking in few seconds. It's very common when driving on highways during heavy traffic, but no jam.
@haroldbeauchamp37704 жыл бұрын
It is illegal in many parts of the United States. Many jurisdictions have laws that state that no one can operate a vehicle with flashing lights other than turn signals except for emergency vehicles (police, fire, tow trucks etc.)
@GIBbeerDST4 жыл бұрын
I meant not "behind" but "ahead" :)
@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her4 жыл бұрын
@@GIBbeerDST , Comments can be edited if you wanna correct booboos. ;3