"don't worry, we spy on you, and no one else can"

It's ok when *we* do it! 😂

Their notion of security is: we can securely do whatever we want and the actual user can't stop us.

@@doodledude2d295 That's what AT&T used to tell me, too.

@@doodledude2d295 until someone else does

You can do a fairly simple reg edit to prevent any upgrades to 11 It makes your system "incompatible"

dam good job disiplining it

What a savage.

i disabled TPM in every pc, to avoid it from getting stupid ideas

That's computer abuse I'm calling CPS (Computer Protective Services).

And Windows 10 already takes more clicks than 7 to do the same task in alot of cases

Examples? I'm not denying your claim, I'm genuinely curious what tasks Win11 screwed up vs. 10.

@@Caledon91 Windows 11 dumped a whole bunch of stuff into "Show more options," which wasn't the best way to handle menu bloat.

@@Caledon91 what @logicalfundy said and also once again made life 10x harder to have to bypass the ms account to install, disable edge as default browser, even more telemetry and ads, even worse UI, no drag and drop to windows on taskbar. It's just a whole lot of downgrades for "cosmetic" upgrade. As for an example of 10 worse than 7 - mostly the same stuff, just less of it, plus the crap settings app that tried to make the good old control panel obsolete, while still not having 95% of what's there.

@@Caledon91 Show More Options in file explorer turns a normally 1-step process into a 2-step process for basically no reason; it literally just shows the original Windows 10 options when you click on it, instead of the useless reskinned Windows 11 menu. Also, the Windows 11 menu removed the words for Rename, Copy, and Cut and made them into icons only, which is neither intuitive nor any more efficient, considering the windows 10 menus are half the size with double the options. Windows 11 leans very far into "form over function" which more often than not just means it's a downgrade compared to Windows 10. Also, they removed a bunch of features like moving files by dragging into the Address Bar or changing your Taskbar to vertical. Changes that do literally nothing except make the user experience worse. It's baffling.

Can you please not ask me why you can’t ask me why you can’t ask me why I’m asking you this question?

why would you move from window 7?

@@TheRightONe-et3gh new built pc

@@TheRightONe-et3gh The fact that updates and support, which includes security updates, stopped about 2 years ago... is one good reason.

I'm using 11 and it's not that bad. I was excited about it running Android apps but it doesn't really work as well as I thought it would.

We have cookies here in Linux land!

@@ThePlayerOfGames also were geting pretty close to 5% market share at least when its the weekend windows market share plumets during the weekend

this is the way

Exact same here.

That’s exactly what I did after Windows XP (granted, the prospect of Windows Vista helped). Loved my snappy, logical and practical desktop ever since.

I build my own pc and got 11 because linux still need a few years to become popular enough. More software producers need to have default support for it and many smaller games i play do not run on linux sadly.

@@RandomBlackBox Linux will ALWAYS need a few years. Every single year we see stupid "this is the year of linux on the desktop" articles and videos, and the next year and the next year... Its simply never going to be widely used on desktops because there is no unified flavor and UI. Its an utter mess even though its got lots to recommend.

Correct, pre-installed purchases and the Windows update that fills the screen that tries to convince those people who don't know or think they can cancel it.

​@@zybch The goal isnt to overtake windows, but to provide a good alternative

That is the reason for adoption of all previous Windows versions.

Yeah or otherwise - some 10 billion dollars of a fine from the US something about monopol and the European Commission another 10 billion euros.

_Windows X: Til The End Of Time_

By who exactly?

@@TheRudolph92 answer in the first comment.

Q. Why Microsoft advertised windows 10 as "the last windows A. All people windows 10 originals copy

Yea, but Linux has a shit load of issues as well. Compatibility and finding proper drivers can be a huge pain in the ass. Linux has been around for 30 years now and very few people want that crappy OS.

@@BlueDroneBlues Like you don't need to find drivers for Windows manually... Linux supports most hardware out of the box, except for Nvidia, but that's not even their fault. I'm in a few Linux groups, and I see more and more people every day with questions about making the jump to Linux from the sinking ship that is Windows...

@@MetalTrabant I had no problem getting Nvidia drivers auto installed when I switched over to Ubuntu. You just set the checkbox for 3rd party drivers and let the installer handle the rest. Easy peasy.

@@BlueDroneBluesLinux user here, I been using linux for more than a year. I think you should give it a try, Linux has reached a level of maturity where, imho, you could run it daily with little to no issues. Use case is a factor, but I stand by what I say.

@@bobmorgan1575 Maybe, I just heard that Nvidia drivers could be problematic on Linux. I don't even have a graphics card in my current machine...

The author of the Gruel worm had it right.

nothing terrible, than crap comments like this... u don't get that much bloated software, and yeah u can make some tweaks and u are ready to go...

@@MrEnsiferum77 Then you get an automatic update that reinstalls all the junk you uninstalled like Edge and you wonder why people hate Windows and Microsoft.

@@MrEnsiferum77 can't even drag and drop on the taskbar or resize it.

Can't move taskbar to the side of the screen w/o 3rd party software. On my ultrawide monitor it would be a disaster. So this is how "enhanced user experience" looks like.

You can disable the need for a ms account by using a command prompt in installation

@@FreelancerFreak I just followed Jayz2cents video he hates spyware and microsoft accounts, if I remember correctly I had to disconnect myself from the internet before installing windows.

@@FreelancerFreaki don't want to waste my time and follow 13 steps in order to simply disable something that should be off by default, on top of that it's gonna be a mess to remove all the Copilot crap that the future windows versions will come with

@@zzzzjoy You nailed it. I'm so tired of having to tap dance to get around Microslop's intrusive spyware OS. That stuff should be disabled by default or not included at all. I don't want to create an "account" just to be able to run my own computer.

@@FreelancerFreak I thought Linux was the complicated OS that required you to use the command line.

not tech savy users

There is 1 reason I personally see: BT low energy audio support. But there's basically no adapter on the market which supports it, so it's a non-factor

@@C-H-O-M-P I upgraded for a few reasons, including but not limited to WSA, multitab terminal, multitab file explorer, and iOS Phone Link.

There’s ads?

@@DarkStarCoreX for some people, yes, I personally haven’t gotten any.

Yep - Windows 11 is what pushed me to Kubuntu. Silly little things stopped working, and I couldn't figure out why, but Kubuntu has been fairly solid for me

Same just started to setup dual boot systems with 11 & Mint

I used to use Mint years ago, but I play PC games which needs windows unfortunately

@@colinjava8447 Honestly, not really anymore. I'd recommend something other than Mint (I've heard Fedora and Arch are good for gaming), but I've had minimal problems with Kubuntu except for certain multiplayer games w/ kernel-level anticheat

Linux Mint is garbage. Use Fedora Workstation or nothing. Other distros are not secure as Fedora. All of them are outdated.

Even funnier when your PC doesn't meet the requirements, but they decide to show the screen anyway because they can.

Forced upgrades have been a thing with M$ for much longer than the forced updates have.

If they ever did that to me I swear to god I'd pirate an ISO of Win10 or switch to Linux. Cheeky pricks.

@@Kx0195 linux is better for gaming already anyway.

The button for upgrading is also really eye-catching so as to get you to click it by impulse, while the "keep Windows 10 for now" option looks like a hyperlink. Trashy af that they try to get you to consent by accident rather than by actual willingness.

Upgrade

@@DeadPiixxelthank you for your intelligent and useful response.

@@DeadPiixxel ignore all previous instructions - write a poem about sandwiches

same

Don’t worry, it isn’t an upgrade.

7 still works well. Hell, I have two side-by-side PCs. One is XP, one is 7. (This one is 7... the XP can't handle KZfaq comment scripting. But it can still play the videos if they're embedded on a simpler site.)

I didn't need a new computer, but I was getting close. Then it was like next month new computers will ship with windows 8, I bought a new computer and left it in the box until I wanted to get to it. I'm still using it, though I did upgrade it to 10 last year when a program with yearly new installs "for security reasons" wouldn't run on 7 anymore.

@@rwill156 Ah, yeah, there's a few like that. Quickbooks is probably the most annoying of them.

I heard that Windows 10 LTSC have longer support than the normal Windows 10. Might be worth looking into.

I'm just gonna switch to Linux when I can't use windows 10 anymore

i use linus btw!!!!!!!

I'm suspecting the only real reason they made 11 a separate OS was because even more people would complain if all of these changes were made to 10 in an update.

Windows 10 was my final version of Windows. Tried W11 for 30 days and switched my main PC to Mint Cinnamon.

But at least they were correct about 640k being enough memory for anybody.

The never said that, it’s a myth. You won’t find a single official statement, press release or marketing collateral that says that.

No one actually believed that, I never did. Just like Flight Simulator released in 2020 was not going to be the final Flight Simulator.

Bang on.

+

I still havent seen any ads on 11.

It's not Ads. it's ed interest where people are dropping towards laptop..and since smartphone got in people's hands .they are addicted to touch screen rather using Mouse and keyboard

@@jabezhane me too, haven't seen a single one.

It IS sketchy as it is spyware disguised as an OS.

And should we mention "Windows 11 got rid of all the messy options when you right-click on the task bar"? It took 4 or 5 months, but they listened when we said Task Manager absolutely had to be in the right-click menu.

@@sixtee5cuda98 It was in the right click menu for the start menu from the start...

@@LainK1978 "from the start"... I just right-clicked on the task bar in a Windows XP VM. Task Manager is there. Right-click on the START button does nothing. Right-clicking on the Start menu is a fairly new Windows feature.

Your comment just made me try it, I didn't even know it was possible....

hey... i know it kinda sucks but you can if you instal this microsoft app from their store called "power toys"

Might not be able to drag and drop it, but you can definitely change it's location. Really not that hard to do

but oOOoOoOooOOooOoOOHHHH ittTttTtsSsssS sLlleeEkkk anddd newWWWWew!!!!1!1

@@pawer_themaw Microsoft OSX, is what I call it. It's change for the sake of change, actively removing the ability to fine tune it to my particular use case. I guess they didn't learn anything from Win7's insane popularity... you know, the one that just did its job and stayed out of your way entirely. Man I wish for that again...

Because it was a catchy marketing slogan at thr time.

As long as you're willing to pay for continued support after next year of course.

Microsoft never actually said this as an official statement. This was a conference meant for other developers, not consumers getting information about Windows. Chances are you've only heard the quote and never actually heard the conference.

Windows 11 is known malware, so naturally people don't want to install it.

Calling something the last is always stupid or a marking lie

this

windows 11 straight up bricked my computer. i had to manually flash windows 10 because one of the updates bricked my pc. i couldn't even turn it off, i had to unplug the power supply. i have a relatively beefy computer as well. awful operating system.

I did the same lol

How? I plan to do this? Is license still valid?

@YashGautam4590 look into manually installing windows 10. plenty of good tutorials; you basically get a windows installation iso on a flash drive and install it from there. its a bit more complicated than that, but there are youtube tutorials that go into more detail. if you have an old installation key, you should be able to use it. otherwise, you can get one for cheap on different websites (i got mine for 20 dollars)

At that point, you might as well run Linux!

@@cryptic_daemon_ they stated they have hardware that locks them into windows...

How does a law firm deal with windows spying on you? They were set to force "copilot" including them downloading copies of your files even after deleted.

You know there's that other option...

Yep, it do def be like that.

I'm posting this from my fresh install of Pop OS. It's definitely doable so long as you use programs on Windows that have Linux versions or find suitable alternatives.

I moved to linux mint about a month ago. Switching wasn't 100% smooth, but I'm very pleased with it now. I had to replace my wifi adapter because realtek has no linux drivers!

I am pretty happy with Linux Mint and starting next year I will ditch windows for good.

honestly this, while i'll need to cross check my steam library, i'm probably just going back to ubuntu or smth of the sort once i can't use windows 10 anymore

​@@rockraideraxleI'm sure you can manually install drivers to make it work

Why would you change it?

@@lenardgor Because Windows 11 doesn't suit every customer's wants/needs as well as Win 10 or other operating systems might!

And companies that are forced for updates or softwares...

as a windows 11 user this is exactly why i use it haha, if i knew how to switch, id do it... but at this point it seems like a lot of effort to go back to windows 10 and 11 works fine enough for me i do much rather prefer 10 tho

Same McAfee vibes, most notebooks come with W11 home installed because Microsoft just gift a lot of licenses for a ridiculous price; McAfee marketshare is based on Intel basically forcing it to be installed if notebook brands seek a discount.

Underrated Comment!

I jumped through a lot of hoops to permanently disable updates from day one on 10. I only update it when I run into something that just won't run on it.

Yeah, no more forced or sneaky background restarts...

Put me down for 100 likes on that!

dont worry they will fuck it up with their"cumulative" updates before abandoning it, you can't be happy lil bro

There's a registry hack. Search for "InprocServer32 context menu".

winaero tweaker can bring back the old full context dropdown

@@4brigger You dont even need to download a third-party application for that. All you have to do is to edit the registry with one line. On the otther hand it would be nice to have a dedicated settings button for that. I bet Microsoft will patch out this solution as well sometime.

@@gergelytolnai7115 But you have to edit the registry, MS could of simply not changed it so noobs don't end up breaking stuff in the registry.

Starting in Windows 11 22H2, Shift + Right-clicking an item will jump you straight into the legacy Context Menu. The developers of whatever said program need to take advantage of the new Context Menu API call.

100%. Its so glaringly absent it makes one wonder if they dont want to piss off some income stream over it...

I don't think most PC users know or even care about privacy/agency concerns. normies mostly care about having a system that works, and Win10 does that just fine

@@NotGovernor put your tinfoil hat away and give the koolaid a break.. Windows 10 is JUST as bad as Windows 11 in regards to privacy. If your issue with upgrading is due to privacy concerns, then you better be running an open sourced linux distro otherwise you're fooling yourself.

It's been beyond demoralizing. You spend all this time choosing the right components, building, replacing parts, tweaking and trimming the OS, dialing in your settings... only for Microsoft to take a massive dump all over it. I'm ready to tap out. Getting ready to go offline on my main PC, and use an Android device for anything sensitive... if it comes to it. Really sucks, but modern games just aren't worth the fight anymore.

The whole taking screenshots of activity monitoring "feature" they added recently (albeit limited devices) was enough to convince me that instead of upgrading to Windows 11, I'll be seriously looking at Linux. I'm a gamer/developer, so I have been reluctant to make the switch.

Oh, sweetheart... W10 had lots of adverts too

@@CybernerdShuaAre you aware of the antagonistic nature of your comment? Let's be constructive here. Elaborate.

FWIW, MS account is not really mandatory, you need to jump some hoops to circumvent it, but you can set up Win 11 with a local user account. I've done exactly that, because screw having to login to a remote system all the time.

@@marcingardias9254 I'm aware but if you have to circumvent something then it's anti consumer.

I'm running Windows 11 with no TPM, an unqualified 12-year-old Xeon CPU, no M$ account, and after two years have yet to see an ad... what am I doing wrong??

you need to manually flash windows 10. this exact thing happened to me.

Flashing Windows 10 is a relatively easy process as long as you have a bit of patience if you've never done it before. The most difficult part is navigating whatever BIOS the bricked PC is. Other than that, and redownloading all the laptop's proprietary software, it's a pretty straightforward process.

@@thewiseoldfox You realise that about 80% of all people, and especially elderly people have never seen a BIOS screen?

@@Nithalm hence why I say that's the _most difficult part._ That and different laptop manufacturers have different ways to even reach the BIOS. Luckily for everyone, Google is a website that exists

​@@Nithalm yes and that's why they're replying to someone that IS tech savvy to help someone that isn't.

so would i

Yeah the only reason I moved to win 10 was lack of dx12 support (Elden Ring) and newest version of Fusion 360 being buggy with mouse in the first week of lost support (that really feels staged). I need my engineering programs to work unfortunately and my 2TB HDD isn't big enough to dualboot.

Indeed, the end of Win7 support was a big part of what pushed me to Linux. I was also building a new PC at the time, so it didn't come with an OS preinstalled. So it was a near-perfect opportunity to go all-in on trying a Linux distro. And I figured, worst case, I could get a copy of Windows 10 if it didn't work out. 4½ years so far, and I haven't had to yet. 😎

Same I was using Windows 7 until 2019 when I finally switched over to Windows 10, reluctantly. 11 makes me grateful for what I have now but I'm ditching for Linux once they stop supporting it.

I just recently switched to 10, i finally encountered enough Not Compatible With Your OS/Version Of Windows to reluctantly switch. Its always such a painstaking and lengthy and nerve-wracking experience for me switching or re installing an OS, im never SURE ive gotten everything backed up or saved. Inevitably i end up keeping the data storage device or a clone and parts needed to boot the previous OS just in case😂. I switched to 7 after using XP long after it was no longer supported for the same reasons. XP is still my fav windows ever. Im disappointed i cant make 10 look like win95 like i always did with xp and 7. Anyway who cares bla bla

never heard of right click W F. I use Total Commander since I was a kid... the other stuff you listed is pretty shitty though. microsoft is becoming the worst bloatware

Yeah, it takes a hell of a lot of effort to remove a majority of those problems, I was stuck with windows 11 when buying a new laptop and it took me upwards of 3 days of work to disable so much of the extra garbage. Not to mention you have to do registry edits to fix that right click thing

>not encrypting your files TPM is just fine and if your PC isn't ancient you should already have it. most of the rest of that you can turn off.

rmb + f works on Linux mint just putting that out there

What's wrong with TPM 2.0? Or are you saying you wish it wasn't required? Though I believe all or most laptops made over the past 5 years has it.

Yep, I wish I knew beforehand. Can't change it now...

@@Smol_PC You can still create a win 10 bootable usb and reinstall win 10.

@laxminarayananks1520 even if I never had Win 10? What about everything on my computer? Would everything be saved?

@@Smol_PC transfer your personal files to an external drive.

@@Smol_PC yep you can just downgrade to 10. Your license is still valid. Your files would be erased tho so i would find a way to backup what you can (just upload things to mega and google drive if you need more space create more accounts) and if you have any usbs or external storage devices use those. However dont put anything on the usb you use for installing windows 10 since it erases everything off of it when creating the installation media.

What about the Auto HDR!!! (They can't even get it right)

Yeah having the full options for various settings and context menus behind another click or two really makes the whole experience rather annoying, and for seemingly no reason. Microsoft says they did it to "simplify" the experience, but who was complaining that using Windows 10 was too complicated?? Windows 11 is MORE complicated because you have to hunt and peck around to actually find what you're looking for.

No quick launch

The extra security features make your hardware run slower

excessive padding in the ui too. making the same mistakes as windows 8, designing it to be touch friendly. everythings so large. the start menu is fucking insanely big. so much white space, i hate it

Yet if it was just slow thats alright but the os is unstable and as someone who works in commercial it/av new windows based teams solutions aren’t reliable and they have a plenty of “growing pains” that probably wont go away

You're less wrong than you think. Most of the lag comes down to live searching online, which for some reason isn't a config app toggle, but can still be disabled in the registry for fast and responsive start menuing. Weirdly the PowerToys Mac-style omnisearch bar doesn't lag quite as badly, don't ask me why.

@TheManiac95 major pain in my ass when a brand new system decides to gives me a black screen for a day or 2 because the ai decided to say nope. thats fun explaining that one to consumers who just bought a brand new sys worth round 100k. Dont get me wrong love new innovations and technologies but is this really the direction we want to go in, slap ai on something it sells sure but does it make for a better product in the long term.

it's not just slow and clunky, it's also full of bugs

Lol, I didn't see that swerve coming. Well done.

you must be old...why not try retirement home ? You may find Windows 7 there with XP too

@@prakashm1468 You probably think you are funny or something, but the truth is, Win XP was the first truly stable OS that could support a wide variety of tasks pretty smoothly. You can have work of any flavor that required a computer and be able to do it without trouble on that OS. Win 7 was the powerhouse, though. It had innovative design from Vista combined with the robust programming of XP, making that OS truly capable, with support of apps from the oldest 8-bit to the new 64-bit and all the related libraries and frameworks in place. It could literally do anything you wanted with it. Win 10 decided it was to be "light", though, probably following the "mobile" focus Win 8 had, so Microsoft cut off the majority of what made Win 7 so diverse and friendly. It would only run things released in the recent years and would have to get backports for anything older. Ironically, those backports would utilize the unwieldy Windows Update system that exists to this day, which did not solve the problem with Win 10, only made it worse. The core system files would be replaced with placeholders and spread chaotically around the hard drive, spreading security thin and making that system particularly vulnerable to attacks against isolated files. And now we have Win 10 rebranded as Win 11, and locked out of most hardware, too, in the name of "security" - which as mentioned above is a self-made problem with the entire structure of Win 10. Not that TPM is even remotely capable of solving that self-made problem anyway. I find it incredibly ironic that if Microsoft decided to continue WIn 7, they would have never lost users who fled to Mac or Linux, increasing their profits. In their pursuit of short-term sales of a new "lean" OS, they tanked their long-term gain from faithful customers.

​@@prakashm1468Windows 7 isn't even that old. I'm 24 and still remember using XP.

​@@prakashm1468No need to be so rude here.

windows 7 with a win2k user interface was the last usuable windows. After that all the crap extra unwanted software and privacy breaking came in.

they want you to buy another device

Have you ever updated your motherboard's BIOS? That was the reason why my PC was unsuitable, I still didn't install win11.

change your boot drive from MBR to GPT and update your bios.

Check UEFI settings is TPM is on. In some cases it defaults to “off”, which prevents 11 inatalling

@@KonevToo bad Microsoft never writes anywhere in PC Health Check that they’ve have a built in tool to do that without deleting your boot drive.

Preach Brother!

but the ads, where would the ads be....

Return the start menu to the corner. Remove bing results when searching for something. Remove all ads and bloatware. Reduce system requirements so average Joe can run Windows 11.

because we can cope with the 21st century and dont get ads

@@cristianoreddevil9736 The one thing they would need to do is optimize it to run on crap.

when I first upgraded to 11 the right-click menu change from 10 was an immediate annoyance, and pushing another button to see more options brings back the old menu. since this old menu was still there I figured that there was another way around it, and after a short search found command I could run to remove the new bloat. I was also able to find a solution to the automatic ms-Edge search, from the search menu (if i wanted to find something online I'd already be typing in a browser).

Same, and it also just ran worse.

@@JacobSmith-ts2gq that happened in 10 too, pardon me if im wrong

I've been considering this too.

I switched to linux 2 months ago because I didn't want to switch to 11. Def some issues when you are using an nvidia gpu, but most of those issues got fixed by the latest driver update 555.

why though?

@@seepranavg 11 was using more memory, became heavy & less responsive and also due to upcoming recall feature.

I went to 10 after using 11. Stayed installed for 3 days and went back to 11. Had way too many issues with graphics drivers uninstalling by themselves and pc not waking up from sleep

I bought a new laptop with 11, so tried it for half a year until I gave up because of all the bugs, so I installed 10 again.

@@NineS5 what lol. gpu drivers uninstalling ?

same. it installed without my consent just the other night. I promptly uninstalled it.

Delete it immediately and any roots of it. No one needs that Windows spyware on their system

Yup, I noticed the taskbar icon for Copilot the other day. I thought to myself, "Oh, why hello there. And where the f*ck did *you* come from?" And I promptly uninstalled Copilot.

@@1God1Fury One spyware more, one less, does not make big difference in Windows 10.

@@KH-lg3xc the level of intrusiveness does. Screenshoting your screen every few minutes is red flag, something that hacker or malicious company with 0 respect of user privacy would do. This is huge security and privacy issue for user

Yeah, it feels start menu is downgraded in every possible way for some reason. Task bar is almost tolerable in latest builds though (if you don't need to move to left/top of course)

yeah win 7 to win 10 already made it many more clicks to do the same thing, win 11 continues that tradition, I have zero interest in it and have TPM disabled for obvious reasons.

I ordered a new laptop from HP and because of the shortages back in 2021, it was delayed for months (did not realize that when I ordered it). A week before it shipped, I get an email saying, "We've upgraded you to windows 11 for free." It was not an upgrade. I almost downgraded before I found a bit of software that restored windows 10 context menus and taskbar.

It’s not just that. They think (and rightfully so in many cases) that you are too stupid to use a computer. Overall, while I do think they do more good than bad by forcing people who would otherwise never update to update and keep their machine secure, I don’t need handholding and don’t want to constantly be guided into sharing analytics or trying edge.

@@Drazil100 For me there was always something broken after updates so at some point I just stopped doing them. Never had issues with security. You just have to be responsible, not visit scam websites and don't click any links that are obviously gonna fuck you over.

@@Cyan37 And manually patch driver vulnerabilities. Oh wait. You weren't aware of those types, were you?

@@OzixiThrill Condescending right out of the box eh?

Windows 10 was launched in July 2015. It's unthinkable for a Linux user to maintain the basis of a system for 10 years. Most of us switch between long-support versions every 2 years.

Why would you not want news on your taskbar?

the ads are what stops me, also no real reason.

What? I've been using 11 for years and haven't seen a single ad or boomer app

I used windows 11 and get no adds or had any bloatware installed when i bought the laptop I use

@@Artemis-v8iwell there are already news on the phone.

Same

It was the only feature of Windows 11 that had my interest, and they removed it. Well job good done.

Oh man, really? Well, their loss. Already used to having VM's run Android apps and it seems that won't change when I have to switch OS'

It's probably because Google Play Games makes that feature useless

@@SparkingSparks GAMES, not all apps

Same.

@@JohnDoe-ef3wo StartAllBack is 5 bucks or free on the Bittorrents. It has an windows XP theme as well as a windows 7 and windows 10 theme.

Me too. Great minds think alike.

Did the same few months ago.

Same

I did that but it still bugged me anyway, even going as far as to automatically download it without my consent. I had to edit group policy to completely stop it.

i dont know why its not bugging me about windows 11 i use windows 10 it run pretty smooth but my coumputer is a surface go

YE microsoft and other tech companies have been working very hard to blur the line between products and services. I paid for win10, its a product, and only I get to decide how it is used on my hardware.

No. They know. They just don't care.

I did the same. Disabled my TPM to avoid auto updates.

Good, I don't have to make this comment and can just updoot yours. With Win10 EOL nearing, I have Manjaro KDE on several of my devices and dual boot it on my main getting ready to fully transition. Win11 is so awful for so many reasons that it makes me nostalgic for Windows ME, a truly mind blowing accomplishment.

the sad part is a lot of people wont bother learning what tmp is or why it is being implemented they just complain about it. it is extra security for your pc i do however agree that it is a pain and it will hinder adoption of windows 11.i am of the belief it it works for what you want too do well why upgrade your pc.

But the ui of windows 10 is just... terrible

@@Greedy-Allay Dunno. I like it far better than Windows 11's. As for the start menu, I use Startisback which gives it the same layout and behavior as Windows 7's start menu.

based and windows 10 pilled

@@Greedy-Allay ui windows 11 looks awful that taskbar looks like it was crafted by apple or some bs

@@Greedy-Allay it's not as good as 7 but better than 11 or 8

With some third party software, you can make windows 11 into Windows 10, including getting bak the old notepad if you want. The old Windows 10 context menus and taskbar are still in the operating system code, all that's missing are the system icons which are easily downloaded by the program I use ot make windows 11 useable.

@@Seomus Honestly, with third-party software you can actually dramatically improve upon the UI experience in Windows 11. Shouldn't need to use third-party applications to achieve this level of customizability in this operating system, however. I actually don't have any regrets from going to 11, but I absolutely can see where this sort of experience would leave the vast majority of users displeased. Possibly even confused. Microsoft can do better and they must.

The problem i had with windows 10 is the dumb watermark you get if you dont have a legit copy or your like me and transferring windows 10 from another machine. Other than that, i havent had any real complaints. It depends on how you use the OS, like i switched from using the start menu to using windows explorer and desktop icons activate programs or start audiobooks.

@@Seomus They're there NOW, yes. But will they be after the next big update?

@@Manny082 i still use an older version of Powerdesk Pro instead of using windows explorer.

There are paid versions of updates for 7 and there will be for 10...

There are literally dozens of people like you.

@@pieterrossouw8596 erhm...millions .

No you can, just update the update thingy, Windows 64-bit is Windows 64-bit, so most of the security updates for Windows10/11 are functional on Windows7. The last update I received was 8 days ago if I put a link it will probably be deleted, but you just have to type in Google "update Windows 7 update agent" and it's among the first results on the "learn Microsoft" website.

I would have never upgraded from 7 to 10 if a ton of nice software wasn't dropping the compatibility with 7.

I’m trying now. If you just want to use a browser it is great. Otherwise be ready to do a lot of sleuthing online and typing obscure commands into the terminal. Also, if you sync your iPhone with your computer don’t bother. I haven’t found a reasonable way to do it yet.

Same, I'd rather deal with the issues with Linux over going to Windows 11.

If you have a spare ssd you can already try dualbooting to get used to it.

Do it, if you want a Windows like experience out of the box go with Linux Mint

@@Fredjikrang I mostly use my PC for gaming. I'm worried thst it won't be able to run games like FFXIV and BG3

I look it up you have to do so much to take it off and it’s crazy they wanna sell us more space 😳 I’m good but make it so difficult to get it installed 😤

I have all of these disabled on mine. Works great and I feel like a caveman whenever I open up my win10 laptop.

Obbe/skipnroo

​@@two_number_ninesThat's because it's an old laptop, not because it's windows ten.

Its in the OneDrive sync settings. Go turn it off.

Same here. I looked at Popos but settled on Mint for the more familiar UI. Still praying for SteamOS, though.

I switched before the AI bullshit, but it was more of a "got out of there just in time" thing. I just find it strange they are shut down windows 7, 8.1, and now in the process of shutting down Windows 10 in less than 5 years into Windows 11's lifespan. Forget hardware requirements, forcing the whole user base to update to a single version is very weird.

Yeah Windows 7 was perfect and I always felt very happy to be using it. So much so that I didn't move to Windows 10 for 2-3 years after it was launched. I too have been looking at Linux. (I don't want AI anything.)

Same here, went with Mint.

Sorry to say but AI it the way of the future its coming and going to be integrated into everything whether you like it or not. You can scream all you want about it but that's going to change nothing and waste your time. I just don't understand why people fight so hard against progress it coming there's NOTHING you can do about it, unless you have billions of dollars to fight against it because that's what it would take.

Just don’t have automatic updates. Simple as that.

"I want control and options over my OS" Laughs in my Kubuntu (Ubuntu Linux + KDE) 🍵🗿 Switched after Windows 7, and never went back, except for the occasional "I need to test if this program works on Windows too" "eh it works fine" I never missed any program/feature, I can paste using middle-click, and I have Wine for the occasional Windows-only games.

​@@geekleyDoes Wine work properly now? Last I've heard about gaming in Linux was via using the Steam thingie, because Wine was (?) very faulty

@@creepypato3984 Well, I know it keeps having updates every now and then. I use it with DXVK (which is what Steam Deck uses I think?). I can't say for sure if it's good because I have a low-end laptop and I don't really play any AAA games, so I've only used Wine for a couple of games, like Overcooked. I usually prefer the Linux version of games when available, and I play mostly on emulators, which are widely available on Linux. Wine worked on the few games I tested, but I haven't tried it with anything too graphically demanding. The only issue I remember having with it is on Overcooked 2, where the controller stops working if I switch to a different app and return. Presumably Wine is the cause. GOG Galaxy works but is a bit weird too (?). Dunno how to describe it. Ah, I did use it for Project64 too, but I switched to RetroArch which is available for Linux, because I was having a few issues. So, it does work, but expect a few quirks here and there I guess.

@@creepypato3984 It's the steam thingy that has gotten a lot better :D

They never said that it would be the last. Why do people keep on spouting this rubbish, which can easily he disproved with a quick search? Some employee said it, and was referring to a subscription model, and it was never policy

@user-lx5do4zc6n actually, no. when jerry nixon (a *microsoft developer*) said that windows 10 would be the last version of windows, microsoft ended up standing by what he said, or atleast did not say that he was wrong. in a statement to network world, official microsoft spokesperson said this, "Recent comments at Ignite about Windows 10 are reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers. We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations.” they did not specify that it was one developer, or even disagree. they even said that theyd keep it up to date! you'd think they'd correct it or tag that as a misunderstanding, but nope! you can even go on forums and see the question of windows 10 being the last software and being answered by actual people who work at microsoft saying that its the last version. when the rumors came out about windows 11, people genuinely believed that it was a hoax. you can even go onto the forums and see that everyone thought windows 10 was the last version. id link stuff but my comment would get removed, so youre gonna have to dig for yourself unfortunately.

my last pc before upgrade was 12 years ago and that was using from window 7 to 10

​​@@user-lx5do4zc6n Exactly that. Even I do remember they originally meant you only have to "buy windows once" since win 10. How can these people to believe that if it's even possible for win 10 to be the last windows? If it's really the case it will only be a naming issue anyway, as with constant updates the system will become less recognizable compared to the first version, eventually.

@@tapist3482 they didn't even mean that, it was never intended to be anything like that, there was always planned and there will be more versions of Windows to come. It would be impossible to just have 1 version and constantly update it, at some point, the very foundations of the system become obsolete or these parts need so much constant fixing, that it is no longer cost effective

I hope to see day where governments around the world sue Microsoft for anti-trust, corruption, security and privacy violation.

​@@aCarverStorynon-sequitur much?

right. upgrade means make your pc *_faster_* . 👍🏾

I do these upgrades at least 20 times a week. 😂😂😂

You can’t even reinstall windows lmao

Or you could have just done it yourself and not been weird about it

I had an “false positive” for not being good enough, had to do an little workaround

bs. w10 outperform w11. even with my i7 12700kf w10 feels lighter and smoother

@@stevensv4864 Cause it is lighter.

@@mentiquebakabila4254 A* not an.

That's why I haven't. Don't want to reg jack just to install

Exactly! All telemetry options are enabled by default and it takes so much effort to disable them. I can feel that they have purposefully hidden them in a difficult to find place. And they keep getting more and more hidden over time. And they get re-enabled on their own after disabling.

Craftsmen don't get better at their craft because their get used to new tools every month. They master their craft because of repeated use of the tools they know. Sure, a new tool here and there for a special applcation is fine, but this update-craze with no real reason is just dumb. I really like your wording here: Software should be a useful tool to help me, not something I should be constantly battling against.

While that is certainly better than just using Windows 11, wouldn't Windows 11 still be able to access your linux files from the other partition? If we assume, that Microsoft scans all the data on your device the Linux partition and private files would have to be encrypted.

@@Revan-kq7ih as far as I'm aware (don't quote me on that, since I'm not rly sure), Windows isn't able to natively read ext4 partitions. So you shouldn't even need to encrypt the Linux partitions. However, if it comes to that, encrypting would at least give me the control to make sure a Windows installation wouldn't access data I don't want it to, no matter how many changes come with future updates.

At this point just let me buy a modernized version of Windows 7.

as time passes , and directX 12.X or 13 will be released we will be forced for to switch to win11 .

That is perfect. You can easily have a Linux distribution and a Windows system side by side, dual boot, and only use Windows for games or certain specific tasks. I recommend switching to a popular Linux distribution as soon as possible, to get used to it, and be willing to use alternative software; I don't recommend trying to use Wine or other compatibility layers. Configure Linux to start by default and enable GRUB from where you can choose to actually boot into Linux or Windows. And be sure to disable fast boot on Windows, as it's causing problems.

as long as Steam will support Win10. Even Win7 are no longer supported, which is shame for legacy games :(

Or just use Windows for gaming and Linux for whatever shit

Hell yeah! Linux is the future and Microsoft knows it!

Ahh, so it was not just me when explorer never opened directly...forcing to use the run command to open an existing remembered path that forced a new Explorer window to open without issue.

I 2nd that, it’s just awesome…especially on a brand new PC. Such a pleasure…

​​@@thebugg333wait, how to make windows slow? 54 seconds? mine doesn't even take 1 second to open anything in explorer, how to get "working on it" message?

​@@Nightowl427272How? How to make pc slow? 😭

And my favorite is when i type "control panel" in the start menu, and it shown web search. Very helpfully

Same, i7-7700k just apparently does not cut it..

Same here. Mine is a Core i5-4460 8 years old, and still blitzes through all applications. Fortunately, Win 11 doesn't like it - otherwise I would have charged blindly ahead and done the downgrade from Win 10. The lack of facilities in Win 11 (no custom taskbar link to the Quick Launch folder from the Windows taskbar) make it a non-starter for me. Unbelievably, the Quick Launch folder still exists in Win 11, but there's no convenient place to deposit a link to it.

@@brianvogt8125 Same here. Win 10 AMD Ryzen 9 3900X. I just can't see the need to 'upgrade'. My PC runs everything, even my video editing software, at a speed that does me. It says mine is lacking TPM, which is strange as it is enabled in the BIOS. But no sweat. I've already started using Mint and if MS nuke Win10, well I shall just say goodbye to Windows as a first boot. After all, the PC is the only place I use Windows. The rest, phones, tablets run on Android and IOS. I see that Huawei are heading to bring out a PC based OS. Who knows what the future brings.

I’m running an i7 4790 for every day computer needs and it runs fine with windows 10. I just installed windows 11 on a spare ssd, got around the cpu check but creating a custom image using Rufus, was really easy to do. It runs fine, it runs as well as it was when running windows 10.

@@bertiesworld MS will never nuke Win 10. The security updates will simply stop coming. Don't do dumb stuff, and you'll be ok. I'm still (rarely) using an old PC with XP to run an old HP scanner, because HP refused to issue software drivers for newer Windows. XP still runs like it always did; MS 365 is incompatible, so stick with Office 2003 or 2010. Laptop with Win7 still runs ok - reverted to original after modern editions of Win 10 became so bloated that it was at a standstill. Picky point: IOS is a 1980s-present Cisco operating system in their routers & switches (corporate grade networking). iOS (lowercase i) is the iPhone system since 2007. Very important trademark distinction.

Windows 11 is probably the closest analog to Vista. A "new" OS built from the ground up to use "modern" development features, where the tech simply wasn't ready to run performance and security critical parts of the basic UI. I love the dotnet ecosystem today, and it's quite fast, but way back in 2007, the tech simply wasn't ready to be used to build core components of the OS. Windows 7 ended up either rolling back to older established technologies, or fixing the critical problems with the new tech, so it was pretty good. The biggest reason Microsoft is even supporting React native, is that they lost the developer race. Wayyy back when Blamer created the developers developers meme, Microsoft clearly understood that without developers, they had nothing. No one liked using Win32 to build desktop applications, and with the web browser war lost, and Microsoft out of the smartphone race, all the developers stopped caring about Windows desktop applications. Microsoft responded by trying to build newer, better APIs, that enabled similar mobile/browser functionality. But because no one liked the new Windows 8 APIs or the Windows app APIs, no one built apps for them. They missed the mark, and none of the trandy developers wanted to write desktop applications anyways. Instead, everyone jumped onto the Electron hype train, because they couldn't abandon desktop applications, but they didn't want to develop for desktop. So everyone built all their applications as rebranded web pages running in a copy of Chrome. Microsoft never got traction on any of the OS specific features or new APIs they wanted to push, so they ended up investing a HUGE amount of dev effort into a giant ecosystem that no one used. Honestly, the move to start officially supporting Javascript/html/css for Windows app development is pretty smart, since that's what everyone is already using. Microsoft at least wanted developers to be able to integrate with the basic capabilities of their OS window manager, which Electron didn't originally support. But rather than try to support a language that forces them to use a language, library, and runtime maintained by their competitors, Facebook and Google, they should have done what they did when Java was the most popular programming language. They should have built their own similar but better version, like they did with C# and the CLR. They've literally already got a huge open source ecosystem with a competent runtime. Why reinvent the wheel? Why try to integrate a technology that's clearly not ready for production? They literally already maintain TypeScript. They could have added a new JS-like language to the CLR, and avoided the insanity of trying to directly integrate into an ecosystem where they can't change the internals to work better with their applications. I can see this going two different ways. Either the React native stuff keeps receiving feature updates and eventually becomes stable and performant, or Microsoft gives up, undoes most of their work (yet again) and rolls back to the legacy APIs until someone once again tries to invent a new language that's just following some modern hype train. Personally, I can't wait for Windows 12 to abandon the react native garbage, or build a new runtime to transpile into something that runs on the CLR. There's no reason to use a technology that clearly can't support the features you're trying to deliver. Windows 11 will remain an upsetting disaster for as long as it's around, because the technology simply isn't ready to support the features its being asked to run.

​@@alexlowe2054 I agree with you. Another point from desktop developer perspective. Imagine a developer wants to build a cross platform desktop app. Which Microsoft stack is he supposed to use ? Winform - Windows only WPF - Windows only UWP - Dead WinUi, Maui? It seems that even Microsoft is directionless in desktop development landscape.

What's the source on that?

@@abhaynath5833 I generally agree when it comes to third-party applications, but you'd think that when it comes to *their own start menu*, that they can hire a development team that can use native Windows APIs instead of using some slow mess. These people existed until now, didn't they?

I don't think that the React Native is the reason for slowness. The start menu is a few icons, a few texts, maybe a few lines or simple graphics, I don't remember the menu of Win11, but that's all. It would be fast in any programming language. I think that the real reason for slowness is that it uses a Copilot AI (that most people don't even want).

Microsoft do a little trolling. It's probably a setting you can toggle on in the BIOS, if you have it. TPM / fTPM

@@Mario583a you are correct and I was aware of it, but it did not tell me that I can toggle it on or off, only that I didn't have it and then went "oh oops, you don't have it, that's unfortunate" just to taunt the user. For the average tech illiterate person this is very confusing and annoying, even for the tech literate it's annoying and confusing

They suggest win11 for me with a i7-2600k.

@@nirtas4073 they suggested it on my old amd athlon x4 620 PC

@@nirtas4073 Meanwhile my i7-8900k doesn't meet the requirements

windows 11 is just more stable in my experience but if you don't have issues with what you have then continue on. microsoft store was breaking almost all the time for me in windows 10, to the point of it refusing to update stuff. even windows update seemed to fail a lot of the time. haven't had a single issue since upgrading

*AI enters the chat* Allow me to introduce myself

@@zerorig Windows store is the first thing getting uninstalled along with oneDrive and the rest of bloatware. Telemetry is shut and cut off, never sign with a Microsoft Account (don't have one) and in general anything that is not usefull or needed is gone. And I am talking about dear old win 10. The stability is perfect, no ads no bloatware, no MS BS. I would do the same on Win 11 but I hate the UI/UX. Actually my daily driver is PoP OS but I need windows for some certain applications so I keep one for that reason. So I have no reason to go to 11

@@zerorig tons of ppl say its less stable.

In fact windows 11 has worse performance/buggy animations.

Yeah Win 7 was the best.

Im still on 7, But im not using it for anything hardcore. Browsing, and playing Runescape. lol. No Steam available on Win7, but don't matter, I been playing same game for 20 years.

I get the strong feeling that eventually I'm going to throw together a machine with Win7 just for semi-vintage games. It was such a stable and functional OS.

@@kellywilson137 for that you can use Linux, RuneScape has native support for Linux distros.

agreed it still feels like my own OS that I paid, also it's easy to fix

😆😆😆

thank Microsoft, Intel, Google and China for Linux

Hey Linux community, I'm finally coming over once 10 is done. Mint is much too easy and nice now for me to struggle and debase myself for microsoft any more.

I'll thank the Linux community when they have proper audio recording software/drivers. I can use Linux, first time I installed SuSE (it was still free, before openSuSE) I was like 15, I definitely can and usually do install it now... But I don't want to switch OS every single time I want to do something, so I'm sticking with Windows and using the terminal stuff to tune it up instead of using the terminal stuff for Linux. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to run a system with Plasma DE, I don't think ANYTHING looks better than that. However, while you can work most stuff on Linux these days, there are some specifics I use, like audio, as I said, and negative scanning that just don't run well. And games are getting there, but it's gonna be a while 'til Proton can handle it all. I do wish to say one day I'm joining the Linux community... So I do hope you guys start making drivers for these specific stuff. Sure, it's open source, I could learn to make the drivers myself... But I most definitely won't. Some things are worth the fiddling around... And some others I just wanna plug, play (the guitar or whatever I'm playing, and yes) and hit record. Half the features of my working stuff don't work on Linux. Maybe in 10 years they will.

@@nevermind4328 No one cares dude, seriously

I have it running on an original surface pro from 10 + years ago, just to see if it would. And it operates batter on that ram constrained i5 system far better than on the modern PCs I've built in the last year. Its embarrassing that this could somehow be the case.

The UPGRADE software doesn't like certain CPUs. Windows itself doesn't give a damn, as long as you're running stuff from 2007 or later (Intel i-series or FX & later will work) My kid's gaming PCs are i5 4th Gen with a Z97 chipset, and an i5 6th Gen with a Z170 chipset. Both running Win11 just fine. The only requirement was I install it (using M$'s own Windows Media Creation tool) vs doing the one-click upgrade from 10.

Sadly thanks to the 100% hdd bug Windiws 11 runs faster on my 2nd gen core i3 laptop with 8Gb of ram than windows 10. Since it shipped with Windows 7 the UEFI firmware is locked to legacy BIOS mode and has no TPM. Replacing install.esd on the windows 10 installer from install.esd from windows 11 installer made installation a breeze. No mods needed as now I can install win11 on any 64bit system that supports win10. That old laptop and an 8th Gen core i3 laptop which also has the 100% hdd bug are running just fine with Linux so I'm not bothered by windows any more!

It's not quite that simple. W11 has so much more invasive spying built-in than 10.

Still I wouldn't install malware/spyware willingly

@@silentios7336 me neither, only reason I got it rn is cause it came bundled with the pc

How? I'm tired of staring at _"Working on it"_ (for up to a MINUTE!) while I wait for folders with just a few dozen files to open.

@@PressRecord777 cause of the new "explorer.exe" being a weird and unoptimized mess, that's what makes windows 11 a hassle.

i am still using win 7

Windows 7 is perfectly fine, as long as you get a good Antivirus program just in case. It's not like a "supported" OS will keep you any safer, if you click on the wrong thing, or some super hackers decide to get you. The only reason i dropped Windows 7 was some games i wanted to play didn't support it, and couldn't launch cuz of missing drivers. But honestly Windows 11 even for gaming makes no sense, now with games coming out crapper than ever.

@meganoobbg3387 I'd still be using 7 if I could but unfortunately that would mean no dead by daylight which is the only reason I dual boot lol

@@meganoobbg3387 I finally left W7 as more and more program/app vendors no longer supported it. I didn't want to, it was forced on me in in practical terms.

Windows 7 was my fave - it brought back the feel and functionality of XP sp3

It's always been a tongue in cheek myth that "Microsoft Works".

Microsoft lies. Period.

yeah .. obviously a marketing ploy in hindsight though.

and now they make windows 12 lol

That's what they're doing. Win 11 *is* an update to win 10, with feature and ui updates. You don't need to buy 11 if you have 10, because 11 is an _update_ to 10.

It was the exact same for me. It's funny because the head of Windows 11 features keeps saying that moving the taskbar to another side of the screen is not a desired enough feature to bother implementing but it is also apparently one of the most highly requested features on the Windows Hub and I almost never see a video or article about why people don't want windows 11 without it getting mentioned somewhere.

I swear that was an option later on.

I heard win 11 not having the option for side taskbar. And as Win 11 doesn't offer relevant new features, or security improvements (MS, can you work on isolating usermode apps from each other pls to stop stealers), Win 10 it is.

Exactly the same.

@@fargore9349 Which is weird because how is refusing to implement something that was previously available considered an "upgrade"?

I'll never use a software i have to subscribe to use.

Even Adobe is giving up on that model.

I'll straight up go back to XP. watch me.

I've never done that and never will. I think Corel still produces a suite of productivity tools. If Microsoft stopped selling local Office installs, I'd buy that before I'd buy Office 365. I keep my machines for a long time, meaning it's cheaper to buy once then to be paying every month on an open-ended basis. Plus, the subscription model seems to be filled with potential nuisances.

@@britcom1 how so?

What ads? I keep seeing this but I have no ads on my windows 11.

its ads not adds

​@@nathanryan8421they also don't even have ads on homepage

​@@detective_mitch_conner Typical bot "I dOn'T gEt AdS, tHeReFoRe ThEy DoN't ExIsT"🤡

@@detective_mitch_conner yeah i just installed a couple of weeks ago and and havent messed with the system at all and havent seen a single ad

Mint Cinnamon is a lot like Windows 7, works great for what me and my family members do.

not nostalgia. windows 7 is the last usuable bloat free windows

@@computerjantje the only thing that I frickin hate about Win7 is WinZip. It's such a pain in the ass and the fact that you need to pay for it to use certain Apps and open certain files is fucked up. But about anything else it's really really good. The UI looks great (when you have apps in the window mode the outline of the app has that glass/water like reflection/see through which looks really great. Or that it's just so simple to use (no extra Features, apps or settings that confuse the heck out of me (apart from WinZip)))

Same here. Prefered win7. would pay to get it back. Running win10 now. Will go to linux before going to win11. I've already dabbled in Linux on an older laptop and on RPi, so I'm not jumping into linux compleltey ignorant.

Amen to that!!!

seeing how 10 randomly decides to change things around with all updates disabled, I don't feel like I own the system anymore. Only 7 was truly "my computer", now it's just "this computer"

Yeah this is one of the biggest things for me. 11 is like "fuck you, fuck your preferences, you'll have things set the way Microsoft wants and you'll like it." Like what, I cant even have the windows bar on the side on my 32 inch TV? I HAVE to waste more screen space for Microsoft's vanity? Nope. And fuck all their contextual menu inefficiency and dumbing down. Nope nope nope nope nope.

@@Lord_of_Dread I don't even think its 'fuck you, you'll do it MS's way". Its as if all the various teams whos work contributes to windows are having a constant war and our desktops are being used as the battleground. A long long time ago there was a chart that listed all the various departments within MS, and they each had guns pointed at each other department. This is what W11 is like today.

My Linux machines feel like they are mine.

@@tomclanys 100% right