If you can do both things to it, it's firmware

@@freakyplory5721 come on... Dont ruin the joke

Great way of explaining it lol. Thanks for putting this video together. I learned something new todsy

By hammer

You can smash the hardware to get to the software.

Fuck you made the joke before me. Oh well i wont delete it

Big brain moment

Well if you opened that hard drive it will kinda *smash* it for you if you know what I mean

Messi!!!

Messi the cpu and Ronaldo the graphics card 😂😂😂😂

Lol

Geralb Aliu “AND MO SALAH THE USB”

lol

*You-fee

@@aretard7995 I say "oofie" but in IPA it's "ooh-effie"

I say you-if-ee

Where did you work? I want to know where to crash in with my trap car, because this is blasphemy.

If you're a fan of Final Fantasy 7, it's pronounced Yuffie.

true

Nobody uses uefi that's why

That's because it's the same exact thing with a different name as far as any consumer is concerned.

... because the UEFI is BIOS evolved...

Well, you can't get any better in explaining the bios and UEFI basic concept on how Linus explained it. Linus's only job was to tell you the concept on how the bios works. If you want to know how to set up detailed bios or UEFI settings. Go and put on your reading glasses. Find and open up the MB manual and start reading the bios section of the manual. Stop crying like a little baby

bob bobq sorry bro im lazy

+Robert Williams I prefer to call it UEFI if my boot disk is GPT. BIOS if not, even if UEFI is booting the MBR disk.

Industry insiders and people in the know still call it the bios as well.

Same here. Had quite a discussion with a shop assistant.

lol i hear you man !!!myself I dont know why I still call it BIOS

Your profile pic is just perfect for this.

Da profile pic

Okay. But it's an important aspect of building a computer right? I have no idea what a lot of the settings in my bios means and it would be useful to know for overclocking. If he can't do AFAP maybe he can do one on his main channel.

+Victor Nguyen I don't usually refer people to the RTFM rule, but in this case your motherboard manual probably does have a section on bios and what the settings do.

Awesome I'll check it out.

+Victor Nguyen google

+Victor Nguyen For just basic computer usage, the only thing you really need to mess with in the BIOS/UEFI is the boot order. For overclocking, your best bet is to search KZfaq for overclocking guides. Linus has some as well as many other popular PC centric channels.

Man invented GPT disks 3 years before GPT was born

Yeah this video didn't really explain UEFI. I haven't seen a single video on KZfaq that really explains what it does.

+psp785 i miss IDE

+FunWithTreason eh Sata is way better cuz if you have extras then you can strangle people with it :) try doing that with ur pata.

+psp785 One second, need to change my drive back to master

+psp785 I hated IDE. The Molex connectors on those were always a disaster to work with because if for whatever reason you put the power connector on wrong, it would fry your hard drive.

+Siknik64 Never had that problem because all the molex connectors I've ever use have been keyed with the angled corners, would only go in one way, you really must have forced one in to get it the wrong way.

I have used uefi that looked like bios, that’s the best version

UEFI is not just BIOS+GUI+Big Storage support. In reality it's a giant piece of bloatware. It's increases the system attack surface with the OS unable to mitigate it (and yes, there is malware for UEFI and your vendor probably will never patch the vulerability). Furthermore, UEFI is a Microsoft standard and it's not sandboxed. So now, Windows Update will not only ruin your OS, it can also break your firmware.

​@@RicardoLuna oh so many times i had to reinstall grub because i had to hop on windows 5min and it fucking deleted the linux boot from the boot options

I'm using a 2009 American megatrends bios but it doesn't have mouse support

yoo-fee?

+MattU yooeffi

+Alvie Rahman I pronounce it kinda like "weffy" (uefee) :D

kind of like UFO , but UF-AI instead.

You-fi

2019 getting anything less than 8gb is not worth it.

@@jamesisaac7684 I have a 128mb sd card lol

@@aretard7995 2008 wants its technology back.

I have 2 gb flash drive. That’s the least amount of something i have

I still remember when 1GB flash drives were common in 2006. 2GB was rarer, and 4GB was "wow, do you really *need* that much storage, or are you just showing off?".

Michael Bellerue its because you have 16MB of ram

Blaze King a *really* long time ago

Hey Mike I have a surface book with UEFI Firmware and want to do a factory reset. Can you give me any tips?

Phoenix-style BIOS with blue color? It originated from Award Software, used up to Award Modular BIOS 6.0PG (and in 4.51PG with the change color function). Also it is used in the generic Phoenix-AwardBIOS 6.00PG. There are some exceptions: some ASUS motherboards have a AwardBIOS with a Phoenix-style interface, and a Phoenix-AwardBIOS 6.00PG with a Phoenix-style interface.

lol Should be good. ARM architectures don't use BIOS.

+Andrew Powell sort of. It still has a basic input and output system, it's just different to a larger computer's BIOS.

The Freebooter Are you referring to a boot loader program? As far I know, BIOS is particular to IBM-based systems. Running a Linux kernel on an ARM system requires a system tree because the BIOS program doesn't even exist.

+Andrew Powell the trademark is only on IBM machines, but the one in raspberry pi is so close to being the same it might as well be.

www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer/

+s8wc3 back in the late 90's my high school's Computer Network Technologies class had a bunch of Gateway machines running Windows NT with AMI bios that had mouse support, but it was PS/2 Mouse, and keyboard only, no fancy USB lol!

Commodorefan64 yeah lol, those were probably 486's, long before any USB!

+s8wc3 No they had USB 1.1 but the graphical Bios just did not support a USB mouse, or keyboard, and where Intel Pentium II machines If I remember correctly, this was in the windows 98/98SE era, and my school had just built a whole new computer lab with all new Gateway machines.

Commodorefan64 Oh cool! I always thought that bios was more for 486/early Pentium than P-II.

The good ole days!

I have a tiny box full of jumpers!

I used to install 20mb hard drives in Amstrads & formatting hdd through bios and using fdisk for partitioning. Youngsters these day's don't know anything about DOS.

I remember master slave.

I don't miss ISA conflicts.

Zettabyte drive!?

I bet they have a flatrate

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SPHiROS Why are they so expensive? 500 USD for a picture of a pear? WTF?

Northwind its fresh from the tree

+ComputerExpert69 No I've studied those extensively in chemistry That is not a good idea No

+Hearty Oatmeal You study batteries in chemistry where you live? Its physics here..

+ComputerExpert69 Batteries, specifically laptop batteries would be a good one. You've got a bit going on in there, multiple cells, a micro controller doing balance charging at constant current and constant volts, temperature feedback loop and the mysterious plugged in not charging error. You normally would study the chemistry of a cell, a battery is multiple cells :D

it stores electricity there

+Ganaram Inukshuk Yoo-Eey-Eff-Ayy

+SuperOssie Ayyyyyy! eff yoo Eee! (Eee is a name)

Ayy lmao

You-fi

You-fi

The case manufacturers usually pick up the tab, although I've seen some motherboards without the pins needed to drive them. The PC speaker (not beep code speaker) is far from dead.

jeffjoraj i have a sabertooth x79 and carbide 400r. it was 350 for the board and 120 for the case. 470 bucks doesnt warrant including a 7 cent beep code speaker/pc speaker/internal speaker/mobo speaker/whatever the fuck someone wants to call it speaker?

EZOVERDOSE Damn dude, that sucks. I got a wicked cheap case from Micro Center and it came with a speaker. Guess they only come on the low end? Also, I called it the PC speaker because that's what it has been known and documented as for the past 36 or so years (first found in the original IBM PC). Back then, it was a real fucking speaker.

jeffjoraj times have changed. theyre only used for beep codes these days

+EZOVERDOSE If you're lucky you have a motherboard like mine that has an LED Post code display then the beeping way of doing it is obsolete.Sadly you mostly only get the LED displays on Premium/OC boards.

+Danté It's basically UFO with an I instead of O

+Pan V It comes with the motherboard that you buy. The BIOS basically the firmware.

+Danté What are you doing here man ? I thought you were only on DSG !

+Akash Dikpati No way man xD DSG is just my favorite music channel. ;D

+Danté my new computer has uefi ;) it's cunfiguration uses the mouse

+Daniel Reimer Looks more like a Manji, the traditional Chinese symbol designating a temple. Note that it "flows" clockwise, rather than counter-clockwise as a Swastika does. Considering the Manji represents a temple, it seems apt.

+srgpepper42 I think you mixed up clockwise and counterclockwise. A Swastika is clockwise, a Manji is counterclockwise.

+Daniel Reimer Its an Intel socket so that explains it.

Illuminazi confirmed

+Daniel Reimer It helps the CPU _concentrate_

+Happy Farmer ...and if it weren't fer them old folks, you young 'uns wouldn't have a clue what to do. :)

Sheshader old folks is why this planet is a shame to humanity just like phoenix bioses!

Now don't you be usin' the Ph word in my company young man!

Sheshader RAM BUSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!

Those are the only ones who care about BIOS

CRCR7 what's morse code

@@aland1618 I think its like..a color. But im not shure

Its a secret letters usually expressed as sound like the one in this video just like the sound that came out when he said its not Morse code

@@aland1618 morse code is dots and lines or flashes of light that make words

.... . ._.. ._.. ___

I'm a little slow I waited until 5:39 . I had hope he was going someplace with all that.

Correct. Was touch and go before that with the stock images.

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what advantages? that it supports windows xp ?

so sad was with only keyboard :D

I had a laptop last year which went to the BIOS, which had mouse support.

My Fujitsu T730 has *partial* mouse support during bootup, but if you go to the settings, it's back to the nasty blue screen. My MSI motherboard, on the other hand, has a broken UEFI interface.....

Old IBM thinkpads, the cursor is a duck flapping around. I love those machines.

of course, as usual Linus is wrong. UEFI has nothing to do with having a graphical interface. It can have one and most modern versions do, but that's not the real purpose behind UEFI. The truth about UEFI is that it's a problem searching for a solution. UEFI is a derivative of EFI. EFI was invented by Intel when they want to switch everybody from x86 architecture to IA64 (Itanium) and kill off legacy x86 support. Ia64 can run x86 code through emulation. However, Ia64 was not an x86 processor and doesn't start up in x86 real mode with backward compatibility to an 8086, the way all x86 processors do. Therefore for a PC built for an IA64 processor, x86 BIOS would not work. That's why it was necessary for Intel to develop EFI. However, things didn't exactly go as Intel planned and the world decided they weren't ready to ditch x86 for IA64. Then AMD introduced x86-64 and microsoft made a 64bit version of XP to utilize AMDs x86-64. At that point Itanium and IA64 was a sinking ship and doomed to the scrap heap of technology. But EFI lived on and became UEFI. And Linus is wrong about MBR also. MBR is not really a BIOS limitation. It's a Microsoft limitation imposed upon us by the same company who once asked "who would ever need more than 640k?". The BIOS simply looks at the boot sector of a disk, which is the very first sector on any disk. It looks for a specific string value in the first couple of bytes. If that string is present it assumes that's a bootable disk. It then loads that bootsector into main memory and jumps to it, handing off control. At that point it's the bootsector code and the operating system that loads that controls EVERYTHiNG. So any limitations are NOT the fault of BIOS at all.

I Do!

Fast-forward 2020 Still stuck with BIOS/LEGACY 🙄

I'm updating soon as Intel supports PCI 5.0

I have a PC with BIOS and the PC I'm using rn uses UEFI

My computer supports UEFI and legacy but I’m thinking of switching back to legacy I switched over because I wanted to change my boot logo. But my hat drive is 1tb an I don’t care to have extra partitions. I think if the bios chip runs some of the functions that’s good

On Linux you dont need UEFI for GPT ;)

is it something that UEFI tick you off, I've been using it for at least 2 year now... care to know why? :P

He hates it cause there is no reason for it. It's proprietary and not like Microsoft proprietary but scumbag intel proprietary where you get binaries and no source code for their hardware. Let me correctly summarize what Uefi really is. It's basically bios and does the same exact thing as what bios did. It's firmware for you cpu. Cpu powers on runs some intel top secret micro-code and then executes first instruction from 0xFFFFFFFF0h which is typically spi flash memory address containing first line of bios. Uefi is just bios but really over structured. Alls bios build a standard table which Microsoft, Linux, and Crapple have agreed upon which list's essentially address for basic functions the os needs to operate the hard disk to load their own drivers (more firmware but specially designed to run with the os's peculiarities). So basically bios and drivers do the same things. They are firmware which do specific things and the o.s. is generic cause they don't want to write code for every single kind of motherboard that exists. Instead the motherboard company writes the specific drivers and bios. In early times pc's worked differently than they do today. The bios never stopped running and the o.s. would have to translate everything to bios and have bios do it. Eventually windows decided to have drivers which ran natively, this greatly increased performance and has been this way ever sense. So bios only runs when computer turns on and that's it. It really doesn't matter bios or uefi to the end user cause it only runs for like 10 seconds until operating system's boot loader takes over. If you think firmware is negatively effecting something that would be a driver issue not bios. Uefi was developed by intel and is essentially bios but also turns bios into the o.s. It basically is bios which then runs as a primitive operating system which then loads another operating system. It has drivers etc. When you develop a board you only have to write drivers for various components like ram, and other non volatile storage, pci bus etc. instead of writing the entire bios and the o.s. interface and matching it you just write a component drivers for the pcb topology and uefi takes care of o.s. socketing. But the problem is you still have to do ACPI asm and by sectioning you off from a lot of the work you no longer have the same capability for extreme stuff which wasn't thought of by intel. basically you can only continue to produce the same motherboards other companies are producing because you have to rely on intel binaries and you are only writing the drivers. You can adapt Linux or windows to an extreme platform because that was done by intel in Uefi proprietary binaries. So you can't even use uefi for anything other than cookie cutter mobos.

marshalcraft Why would you want to run UEFI on anything else than a cookie cutter mobo? Are you soldering your mobos yourself?

This whole time we have been talking has been to the platform designer, so while we aren't soldering the pcb's ourselves we are paying someone too. Why would you even be here unless you were pcb designer? If you are typical end user then you don't know what uefi/bios is other than short burst of text when your pc turns on.

+0M9H4X I really hate my generation, they all using UEFIs and not old school BIOSes.

+0M9H4X blue screen bios is awful

+László Szerémi I think for newer users, it's much easier to navigate (usually) and tbh, eventthough i used reg bios for a long time, i prefer the UEFI

+0M9H4X You know in most cases, you can switch between the traditional BIOS and a UEFI BIOS in the settings.

+Siknik64 Not on newer MSI AMD boards, it's all UEFI.

+InfinityCraft My has fancy Graphics >:D

+InfinityCraft same here

i had a msi g43 (AMD ) shit UEFI now i have an asus z170 Pro gaming very nicr uefi

It has either or. There is no such thing as a UEFI BIOS.

+InfinityCraft maybe it is just the standard (or basic) mode. Look for a way to enter the default mode. My Gigabyte MB for example has several BIOS-'Skins'.

+MP-Tuners Productions I remember those, and Gateway in the mid-late 90's had a few various machines with AMI, and American Megatrends Bios that had support for PS/2 mice, and keyboards, and know that for a fact because my high school's Computer Network Technologies lab had them, and I remember playing around in the AMI ver, and setting all the machines to a 100mhz overclock with the mouse, and man did it spin the system fans up lol!

+MP-Tuners Productions yep, there was nothing wrong with the old BIOS, the UEFI shit is just the first step to take over the PC open arquitecture... because really? not being able to handle more than 2 terabyte drives? so what? you are not going to work with only the BIOS, you only need it to boot the OS, then the OS will handle everything, lack of GUI? that wasn´t the BIOS fault, there´s wasn´t enough space in the old eeproms to make complex GUI, with new flash memory you can have a bios as large as you want, rom space is no longer a constraint...

Yea, many AWARD bios in the late 486 era had a Win31-ish interface with mouse support

+Omega Rugal So what if you have something like an ultrabook with only 1 drive that is 4TB large, and the bios can't find it because it only supports drives up to 2TB, then your screwed on getting it to boot no matter the OS you are using, so yeah a modern UEFI makes since.

+Commodorefan64 It will boot but you could only use 2TB.

+XxkkezmannxX I'm pretty sure us Germans know more about German than you.

+XxkkezmannxX Nope, its true. Its almost the same in Dutch: kapot.

+XxkkezmannxX Why you always lyying

+MatzeGamer Weird. Kaput has always been part of finnish speech for something that's broken, nice to know it's german word.

+XxkkezmannxX pretty sure I am not.

I just spent 2 houes trying to boot a usb on uefi.... pain in the ass

I used to be into testing OSs until UEFI appeared and bummed me trying off USB booting...

I just spent 1 minute to boot my uefi system to my usb thanks to rufus.

Lately, I've been having much issues just trying to boot from my DVD drive, and that used to work just fine before. Same BIOS, same DVD drive, same disc (same OS), same BIOS firmware (never patched), ... But I have no clue about UEFI or that other thing. I'm sure some setting is off. BIOS's are still a pain, lots of weird parameters ...

Hm not sure. Bios i had on older asus board was f8 for boot menu, now on asrock uefi board its f11 for boot menu

DiamondFace the problem is, all motherboards have a firmware: either a BIOS firmware, or a UEFI firmware. Some people started using the words 'BIOS' and ''firmware' interchangeably but that doesnt make sense as not every firmware is a BIOS firmware. Stop saying 'UEFI BIOS', it doesn't make sense. Yes some OEMs even do this but they are wrong and only complicate things.

You have a uefi. Uefi was made to replace bios, but they keep the name for all the folks who are used to calling it bios so they don't get confused.

I *Know!* What was *That* about? Everyone knows that it's pronounced "ad•age". This leaves me to believe that he's either reading from cue cards or plagiarizing something.

He has a Canadian accent sometimes. It comes out every now and then lol. Not saying thats what it was, but could have influenced his pronunciation lol

@@davidfoote696 Oh crap. 4 years? I've had this account for four-frikken-years? Where does time go? BTW, yeah, he was trolling with the pronunciation. What makes me trend that way? _This account was created to troll._ Just sayin'

Oh man, and the hand gestures! This guy clearly had some kind of training in presentation. Maybe theater, improv, advanced public speaking. He knows how to speak with his hands 🤌

+HBMHD BUT NOW THERES FRESHBOOKS!!!

Justin Passfield We should get money for that lol.

Lol

If trump can do it, so can you

Me too! Even if there's no Windows (or MacOS, or GNU/Linux), the BIOS is still there, and it was shipped with the computer when it was originally assembled. So 'Built-In Operating System' totally makes sense.

+Hank Hill copyright reasons

+Pyroblock (SPG) ^^

Because the car has its rights. It doesn't want to be seen naked on the Internet.

+Toon M lol

maybe because some people may think that they pay for him