Did MSI Fix the Claw? - MSI Claw A1M Post-Update Review

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Testing the MSI Claw Gaming Handheld. Get yours: geni.us/zUz2F1Y (affiliate)
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
0:58 - A bit of background
2:00 - Design, Ergonomics & Inputs
2:50 - Gaming
4:00 - Speakers & Fan Noise
4:50 - Display
5:13 - Windows Upsides
6:15 - Windows Downsides
7:45 - Performance Issues & Frame Drops Persist
9:30 - Battery Life
10:30 - Upgradability & Repairability
11:20 - Final Thoughts
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- This product was provided by MSI for the purpose of testing. As per my own guidelines, they don't get any say about anything in this video, they also didn't get to preview this video beforehand, or any other nonsense like that. This video reflects my own views, nothing more, nothing less.
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@HanSolo__ Ай бұрын

"I'm not so much into handhelds..." Pulls out three pieces. 😄 Cool video. Euro tech/gaming hardware channels FTW!

@robertcochran7103 Ай бұрын

Thank you for posting this excellent evaluation of the MSI handheld. I really appreciate the points you make. I have no experience with handheld gaming platforms, but I really like how well you present. The videography itself is outstanding. I hope tht MSI and Intel respond with corrections to the issues that you point out. Thank you so much for an excellent product analysis.

@michaelthompson9798 Ай бұрын

Awesome to see our Techtesters Team 🥰💪👍smashing out the videos and I’m always looking forward to their reviews 😇🥰🥳

@TechTesters Ай бұрын

🥳🫡

@CraftBeerTastic Ай бұрын

How does she do these all in one take? Zero jump cuts! 10 out of 10!

@user-vk8dm9ps9p Ай бұрын

Interesting video, but I don't think it's a one take^^

@HanSolo__ Ай бұрын

Daniel Owen does 2-3 takes in 20min+ video. All with zero script. But he is a teacher.

@user-vk8dm9ps9p Ай бұрын

@@HanSolo__ This is not a single take

@zeo_here Ай бұрын

If you had a handheld gaming channel id watch for sure🤣 your shots are amazing.

@assassino447 Ай бұрын

She's on fire! 3 vids in 3 days

@FuelX Ай бұрын

Yes, so many videos this week!

@CrackedMB Ай бұрын

True

@shreyasdharashivkar8027 Ай бұрын

TeamGroup T-Force Z540 SSD is out and I am excited for its review man.

@FuelX Ай бұрын

@@shreyasdharashivkar8027 I also want a SABRENT Rocket 5 and Crucial T705 reviews. Maybe Nada will eventually rank the latest gen5 nvme against each other.

@ifredtandy Ай бұрын

Excellent review. It would be nice if you recorded various computer peripherals.

@darrooxx Ай бұрын

I see the intel arc structure is not fast and have enough performance than the ryzen handhelds ?? Is that opion right ?

@blind9376 Ай бұрын

glad someone has done this to compare with the early bad reviews

@Patrick73787 Ай бұрын

Nice and fair review Nada. Keep up the good work. Personally I would never buy an Intel Arc based handheld that doesn't come with at least 32GB of RAM as they typically need more RAM than their Radeon counterparts. 16GB is simply not enough for the MSI Claw especially in those heavier titles showcased here.

@hk6926 27 күн бұрын

When a sponsored video can't still save a product 😂😂😂

@LifeoftheWarrior 27 күн бұрын

Thanks for the video! Will you do a comparison on the PC handhelds?

@TechTesters 27 күн бұрын

Welcome! Not sure yet, maybe if some interesting models come out?

@AM93000 Ай бұрын

Stunning

@wilddogwatching6457 16 күн бұрын

thank u for the lego links in the description!

@fearless_H2 Ай бұрын

I would take the Steam Deck over other handhelds. I like Linux and I don't mind tinkering if I need to. Also, at 3:09, there's brackets at the average fps for Tony Hawk Pro Skater. Is that just a typo or is the game capped at a specific fps?

@darrooxx Ай бұрын

Een eerlijke en echte recente die je bij andere niet ziet.

@TechTesters Ай бұрын

Always. 👍💪

@NuckenFoob Ай бұрын

interesting that your cyberpunk was stuttering so much, with latest Intel drivers i've seen other reviewers getting 50fps+ on 1080p and no stutters. did you update the intel drivers or just the MSI BIOS?

@TechTesters Ай бұрын

Both of course.

@djbuknard 16 күн бұрын

@@TechTesters It definitely isn't consistent with other reviews and my own experience. With Bios 106 (as in your video) and the most up-to-date arc drivers at the time of your video most people got over 50fps. With Bios 109 or 10a plus the latest drivers and extreme performance with overboost, Cyberpunk is now averaging closer to 70fps, a massive difference to the 30fps and stutterfest in your video. Sadly I think something was missed in the settings? Also Baldurs Gate 3 is now considerably smoother (as is Starfield). All that said it was a great review but I would love to see an update! I have the SD Oled, Claw and LeGo and the Claw is now my favourite handheld!

@zocher1969 Ай бұрын

Why is DLSS next to the titles at 3:19, ARC graphics doesnt have DLSS support. Did you mean XESS or FSR?

@Ruben98RaptoR Ай бұрын

I am confused as well... Should be XeSS right? I think XeSS is actually one of the strongest selling points of the Claw

@TechTesters Ай бұрын

You’re completely right. Force of habbit. Will pin a comment later today to clarify!

@unkown34x33 Ай бұрын

also doesn't matter how big the battery is... without proper optimization it doesn't matter. it's really sad that I'm outside picked Intel and I was trying to pick up the pace.... fire the board members lol

@itashious 29 күн бұрын

Actually, just bought this for my nephew for his 10th birthday since he seem to be getting into PC gaming, I had been looking at the ally for a while and switch to this option because it was a bit cheaper and more affordable I know it certainly doesn’t perform as well as the asus ally but for a 10-year-old it’s going to be just fine, new egg offered a free 1Tb micro sd pro card to go with it, and also MSI is a pretty good company that I trust that they’ll come out with fixes in the future give them some time

@ToGrimmToWin 17 күн бұрын

Ally is considerably cheaper for me

@shreyasdharashivkar8027 Ай бұрын

The new TeamGroup T-Force Z540 SSD is out. Will you review it?

@TechTesters Ай бұрын

I'll see if I can grab one :)

@arthurmorgan1724 Ай бұрын

Did you upgrade your gpu from a 3080ti to a 4090 . Just asking because a couple of months ago i saw a lady who was reviewing her 4090 said that she was upgrading from a 3080ti for work and i was like damn i wanna do this kind of a work . Anyways I didn’t knew that you were a gamer mom , so i subbed immediately . Extremely jealous of your kids 😊😊.

@TechTesters Ай бұрын

Hope I helped? :)

@ronm6585 Ай бұрын

Thank you.

@TechTesters Ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@Bert439 Ай бұрын

The biggest issue with these other gaming handhelds is that they are squeezing in 1080p high refresh rate screens. When they should have just slapped in a 720p 90hz screen instead. Valve knew their hardware was under-powered at launch and opted for a 60hz 800p screen.

@EGMGaming712 Ай бұрын

You should try out the ROG Ally as well!

@TechTesters Ай бұрын

I wanted to grab one but at this point I'll probably wait for the Ally 2. Annoys me a bit that the SD card issue still persists.

@majinmal1072 Ай бұрын

⁠@@TechTestersexactly this. I would like a more powerful handheld to pair with my steam deck oled le (which I love and use more than my beastly gaming pc) but I refuse to spend that kind of money on a product that I know has defects. That along with ASUS scummy practices makes me hesitant. I may get a Legion Go or wait to see what improvements ASUS makes to the Ally X.

@draco2xx Ай бұрын

future pc handheld devices looks promising especially how convenient it is, ps5 and xbox will eventually become irrelevant except for exclusives. im very excited too see what asus, msi and other tech companies will make

@NateNakao 23 күн бұрын

It's also worth looking at a company's track record with regards to customer service and whether or not they learn from their mistakes. Both MSI and Asus ROG have developed terrible reputations for their customer service while Valve is known for being very customer-friendly. Obviously, any company can change and improve, but just like you shouldn't buy a product based on what it promises to offer in the future, it's unwise to buy something from a company known for bad CS based on their promises to turn things around.

@usmcmsgt5487 24 күн бұрын

Steam Deck OLED 1TB is awesome and no issues so far.

@MegaKiri11 Ай бұрын

When Asus ROG Ally X releases in black with larger battery... they will look indistinguishable!

@godmagnus Ай бұрын

Oooh, the claw's gonna get ya! You're afraid of the claw!

@johnathaan1 Ай бұрын

Very insightful video the only piece of feedback I'd have is that you mention the steam deck alot in this video which personally I dont think is a fair comparison seeing how the os is completely different windows is notoriously bad for power management on mobile hardware and has been for a long time not to mention that the steam decks steamos is built for the steam deck and its hardware and valve has their thumb on the pulse of the specific branch of linux they're using for their system personally I am very surprised to hear the battery life gains you experienced with this system seeing how intel is also known for laughable power efficiency on mobile and desktop I am extremely glad to see a company go with a processor that isnt amd honestly its been getting boring seeing z1 extreme and 7840u and 8840u systems on the market it was making the market very stale in terms of content for those systems there's only so many videos u can watch on the same chip in handhelds before it sounds all the same which is no fault of the content creators

@johnathaan1 Ай бұрын

I also agree with the fact that the msi claw is very expensive and the lower end model with the core ultra 5 needs to be cheaper even further then it is currently

@thegamerboy1000 Ай бұрын

I wonder if this device would perform worse/same/better if it had SteamOS or something akin to it loaded onto it?

@dangerwr Ай бұрын

SteamOS is currently built around the Steam Deck's hardware, which is AMD based, so it probably wouldn't go well without having to jump through hoops to work with Intel. I have no idea what Arc is like on Linux, but that would be an immediate indicator.

@thegamerboy1000 Ай бұрын

@@dangerwr your not wrong but that’s why I said “something akin to it” but maybe that’s why you don’t really see something like it. As it is a pretty big investment to delve into and then support, but maybe the could use those SteamOS alts like ChimeraOS as long as it still supports Arc I guess.

@yasirrakhurrafat1142 Ай бұрын

@@thegamerboy1000chimera, bazzite (kinda the same as chimera). Needs to be tried on it!

@hokayson6518 Ай бұрын

You have to assume Intel strong-armed MSI into using Arc over AMD, I'd have thought by making Arc dirt cheap to buy from them but judging by the retail price that's not the case! Maybe it was a discount on their broader CPU catalogue for their laptops or something. I like competition, but it's gotta actually be a close competition, not...this 😄!

@Narwhalicorn0204 29 күн бұрын

Better hardware doesn't mean much when the frame times are inconsistent. Which is a problem on all windows handhelds. I'll wait for when Steam Deck 2 comes out to upgrade

@nimbulan2020 10 күн бұрын

The battery life is behind the Steam Deck, but it's definitely ahead of the other Windows handhelds.

@xxneroxxx4996 23 күн бұрын

I don't see a problem with hardware at all the problem seems to be optimization everyone is making games for AMD and invidea, Intel ARC is still brand new and is not optimized yet. Even AMD isn't fully uptimized AMD driver updates have broken games that have been around forever Luke skyrim fallout 4 and falloutnv. I actually like Intel is trying to take on AMD in the APU market they just clearly need more optimization

@DenkoYugo Ай бұрын

Feels like a good first product, let's hope the follow up irons some things out

@TechTesters Ай бұрын

Exactly!

@OledBurnInKing Ай бұрын

I hope that msi will make an msi titan in a handheld gaming device with msi dragon center and msi afterburner. I wonder how msi claw handles games like control, crysis remastered, metro exodus enhanced edition, and microsoft flight simulator etc. I like these games due to graphics especially crysis remastered with can it run crysis mode since crysis remastered is my favorite game to play as use a reference and benchmark. Crysis remastered is my reference and benchmark because of can it run crysis mode in every graphics settings with native resolution, upscaling like dlss and other upscaling settings are always off since I never upscale the games. I always have dlss always off, v always off, v sync always off, the maxed out graphics sliders maxed out for every game, unlimited frame rates always enabled and frame rate cap always off for games that support these settings. For crysis remastered, can it run crysis mode always on intentionally because that's how I play. Ray tracing always enabled, dlss always off, v sync always off, motion blur always off, ray tracing experimental boost always enabled. I use these crysis remastered graphics settings on purpose when playing in native 4k on pc since I like to play the game that demands every last bit of hardware with can it run crysis mode because I enjoy the graphics alone. If there was an option for can it run crysis mode for every game, I would always enable it even when the game struggles to play the game at any decent frame rate.

@nathanjuan6042 Ай бұрын

Rog Ally Z1 extreme is a better buy. I was considering buying a switch lite before then I saw a demo unit of ROG Ally and tried it and fell in love of it for the first try. The weight and feel is great perfect in my hands and its very light as well and the screen 1080p with VRR I tried the Horizon 5 looks great on it never experienced any lag or stutter and the game looks very sharp and crisp on it having 1080p with 120hz . I never regret buying it and very happy with my purchase having to play gamepass because it has free 3 month game pass, epic games, Alan Wake, Kingdom Hearts , Genshin Impact and my Steam games there is no limitations to it and the Armory Crate is very clean and easy to use. I'd say it was perfect if it weren't for the battery life but hey I can sacrifice battery life if I can play all PC games and in 1080p.

@unkown34x33 Ай бұрын

based on everything I saw, yes for me the ally is the one! z1 extreme of course

@kennymccormick8295 25 күн бұрын

A light switch? Switch light? Maybe you should look into a Switch LITE.

@qwerty6789x 25 күн бұрын

holding the Claw. 1. Windows OS 2. Intel hardware

@marcusgillespie8343 27 күн бұрын

How much was she paid to promote the dead claw

@Mohat1991 Ай бұрын

TBH, Although it's true that other Handhelds have been out for a while and are more mature in product and optimization, but this is something that MSI already knew when they were launching the Claw. They have introduced a product that in some cases is more expensive than the Legion or Deck, and at the same time with much less performance and optimisation. I think this product is simply not worth it even in the long term. And its not like they are creating something new or new competition, as Intel is doing with Arc vs Nvidia and AMD, its just some corporate greed which wants a piece of this market without any innovation or at least good performance.

@BleepBlop-rh9lm Ай бұрын

Why did they go with intel though? It's much worse compared to AMD 8840s or something.

@afistfulofpimples1745 22 күн бұрын

Why don't you use proper grammar?

@temmychristianto6905 Ай бұрын

My battery stuck in 80% msi claw A1M, please help

@_TrueDesire_ 15 күн бұрын

Battery saving feature, never drop below 10% and never go above 80%.

@JuanCAraujoS Ай бұрын

I think Valve saw it all quite early. Microsoft might become the one blocking the way for handhelds.

@gregyance9901 14 күн бұрын

I do not believe that you play videogames, but your insight is great as always

@jaynosowsky9708 Ай бұрын

You should of just bought the rog ally ...it destroys all of them...everything is amazing but the SD card reader...but ibjust upgraded the ssd ...so don't need it.

@kalitvenec Ай бұрын

😊

@sheratedis Ай бұрын

Intel ARC just can't compete right now with AMD graphics. Nothing wrong with CPU performance

@mapuiatluanga3202 Ай бұрын

👍👍❤❤❤

@VarjoPira Ай бұрын

Ally Extreme just went on sale for 649€ here. Core 7 Claw is around 999€, with extremely (ha) weak retailing. I always root for the underdog, but that is quite the hole you're in, MSI.

@maxdave9590 21 күн бұрын

Just buy the LENOVO GO, it's better, it's easily upgradeable interms of the NVME ssd, and it's got a Bigger screen, better for your eyes

@juliaskriek9700 Ай бұрын

Still can’t make up my mind buying a steam deck vs an other handheld…

@TechTesters Ай бұрын

I'll just say I'm happy with my SD OLED as a pick up and play device for travelling.

@juliaskriek9700 Ай бұрын

@@TechTesters okay, :) I’m almost sold to SD…the only thing I worry about is that the RoG or any other handheld has “better” hardware for almost the same price or slightly higher right now… im building a good steam library and I play heavy games on console but I want those heavy games running on a handheld as well

@siqthepunk Ай бұрын

Just drop the price below the rog ally, it will fix everything.

@maxim_si 25 күн бұрын

Why are u using FSR and DLSS but not Xees????

@TechTesters 25 күн бұрын

That was a typo. Will post a new image asap

@patrickcadette Ай бұрын

😁😁😁👍👍👍

@davelaion Ай бұрын

Dead on arrival. Nice vid!

@Gamezone-ze3oz Ай бұрын

Lol the Asus ROG Ally 2 is getting announced today.

@dt6esdff413 Ай бұрын

fr?

@calmarfps Ай бұрын

That was quick. Instead fixing and tweaking the problems of the V1, Greedy Asus went with V2 and wants money.

@Gamezone-ze3oz Ай бұрын

@@calmarfps Asus have actually done a great software job on the ROG Ally

@Gamezone-ze3oz Ай бұрын

@@dt6esdff413 in a few hours yes

@KarlParl Ай бұрын

Not it isn't. It was the Rog Ally X, and they didn't really give any details.

@finraziel Ай бұрын

You're really comparing it against the wrong product... The first choice when looking for a handheld is steam deck or windows. Windows has some advantages which is almost all of the advantages that you mentioned for the claw. But if you do go for windows, then you'd have to compare the claw against the ROG ally and the legion go (and maybe all the Chinese handhelds). Crucially all those others have AMD SOCs (basically all kind of the same one too). So really the question first is AMD or Intel? And while I love that Intel is trying to break into more powerful graphics, for now I really wouldn't recommend buying them unless they're way cheaper. And they're not. So for now if you want a windows handheld, going with the claw is the sucker choice. Go for one of the AMD handheld and you get all the windows advantages but with proper reliable performance from AMD. And that's only if you want windows, to be clear. Personally I don't, I much prefer my steam deck.

@Goalier95 Ай бұрын

no thanks MSI/Intel.... will put my money down for the ROG Ally 2024... great timing MSI

@TechTesters Ай бұрын

I'm still happy with my SD so far, but curious what the Ally 2 will bring.

@Goalier95 Ай бұрын

@@TechTesters I love my OG Steam Deck, didn't upgrade to the OLED model but I sure do miss the power/VRR screen and better Windows apps of the ROG Ally...just didn't like the SD card issue and poor battery life. I'll give it to MSI for trying though.

@jamaalmeans6984 25 күн бұрын

Everyone just get the rog

@mariotomenbang2955 Ай бұрын

The claw is not fixed. It broke a nail

@unkown34x33 Ай бұрын

unfortunately with this price point, terrible implementation of upgradability, with Intel burning, no amount of update will fix this thing....

@vinterskog Ай бұрын

Just buy an Ally.

@outlet6989 Ай бұрын

Hi Nada, I hope your day is full of fine things and even better wine. Your video didn't interest me as I'm addicted to PCs. I only watched your entire video because I like watching you more. Have a nice day and enjoy your wine.

@TechTesters Ай бұрын

I will, thank you and you too!

@jackykwan2580 Ай бұрын

Don't know why MSI want to shoot themselves on the foot with this and hurting their brand with this product since they spend so much money marketing their brand for performance and gaming. This is just such a bad marketing move.

@jeji5860 Ай бұрын

800$ but worse than 600$ Rog ally? No thanks

@doultonevans 23 күн бұрын

Yeah the video she makes are great but that product from MSI is the purest of JUNK AND have the nerve to sell at premium price not humble at all on the entry into market with there prices don’t be a experiment subject!

@rneumediamanila 29 күн бұрын

Yup, thats the MSI Flaw!

@miketran4289 Ай бұрын

Nah.. it's junk thanks to being a Intel device. You are better off with a new Asus Rog Ally X or a Lenovo Legion Go with AMD

@latibass Ай бұрын

Software updates can't fix bad hardware.

@Testimony201 Ай бұрын

Simple. But some Manufacturers can fix that tho, to some extent. Let’s use the Google pixel’s camera for example prior to the 6 series and beyond. I know it’s different but at least u get the point.

@TechTesters Ай бұрын

Seeing how much Arc has changed since launch, I'd say software can do a lot more than we'd expect. Still need more though.

@l.light_9 Ай бұрын

@@TechTesters 💯

@Saif0412 Ай бұрын

I'm afraid the Arc GPU just isn't on the level of the the AMD 780m, plus the fact that it's way more expensive means there's basically no reason by the MSI Claw.

@danavidal8774 Ай бұрын

@@Saif0412I think the GPU can, problem with iGPUs is that are CPU dependant and Intel CPUs are just not efficient at all so less power to the GPU, it will never overcome that problem