TheScarecrowBB whoa yeah

That was the first thing I thought as well.

Women tend to lighten their hair as they age to cover their grey hair it's very common, as far as the style I like the long better too

I noticed that too!!!

One of the first things I noticed!

Watch the entire series and you'll understand why they didn't listen to her. It truly sucks and yes, they could have caught him in time, or at least prevented more murders.

They had no evidence and could not keep him

@Dianne Lo--Wasn't there an Internet just for businesses and universities or something like that? I don't know.

So was she stl with him then and if so why would she stay with him if she knew who he was unless she was too scared to leave

G Chong that’s a strong statement

Arlene Hill absolutely!

Hell yeah! It's hard for me for the men I've been with lol !

Right. You ladies really know how to pick 'em!

Simon Randall you are probably one of those r/niceguys huh? Saying something so stupid

@@KurooTori Yup. Thats me. At least I never butchered 30 women. Or any people for that matter. Keep picking losers sweetheart!

Molly's cognitive dissonance would be intense.

Almost five years...

He has a real daughter Rosa from his wife Carole Boone. The girl changed her name and no one has heard from

I fell bad for molly when I found out she was sexualy abused by ted

Watch the documentary and you'll see how many red flags any person with a brain would've noticed.

@@lilmissmonsterrr I know that Bundy did to molly

@@aparnarajesh I wasn't talking to you 😉

@@aparnarajesh NANI?! She was? I thought Ted was completely merciful to both of them. I never heard or read anything about Ted sexually abusing Molly.

I was just thinking that also

Yessss

Ikr. Momma, looks like a much older, Naomi watts too.....lol.

Yes, I thought so too

She’s really pretty

MAT T God damn you should be a criminal psychologist....

🤯🤯🤯 wow!!

Most serial killers don't kill their family and they're also protective of them.

I wonder if he was practicing in case he needed to kill her. He was going to tell her wasn’t he?

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit my friend. But seriously, this show implies that it’s not completely obvious.

I agree!!

Lily Collins said in an interview that she talked to Liz and noted everything she told her and went through the list and asked Liz what was allowed in the movie. Liz may not have wanted it put in. But idk it’s just a theory

That was a poor film no action in it the 2002 film was way better

Isn't it on Netflix?

That could've been just anger related to their couple life, she was not perfect either and they fought a lot.

tonya oakman wait til your children grow up and leave home befor dating if you need a man in your life ..

So glad I never had kids !!

Debi Barrington - It's refreshing to read your comment. I am a single mom and that is exactly what I am doing, and it seems so rare! It astounds me how many single moms lead a parade of men through their children's lives. I just can't do that to them. I may sound extreme but my motto is "better safe than sorry".

A. Banana - I didn't say it was.

do you think the US Police could have done better and got onto this guy much quicker..?

@@kailashpatel1706 absolutely. But that had to do with the times. In that era there were not communications between jurisdictions. The Bundy case is the one that changed that. Now there's a lot of inter jurisdiction communication and sharing of information.

Thank god

Other people in his life reported him too

she comes over as a beautiful person as well..

Don't project and don't categorize her. She just looks sad when speaking about victims which is natural and just shows she has empathy. Doesn't necessarily mean she is ''broken'', she might well-adjusted person in her life, we don't really know.

i no right, the spotlight wouldnt help either

Thank you.

It wasn’t her fault but it wasn’t very wise to bring that men around her child the first night of her knowing she could’ve easily made one of the victims

@@CreativelyKia exactly. That's an easy way to put your child in the hands of a child predator. No one is gonna wave their hand around and say "yo! I like to abuse kids! Take me home with you!". To take any man home the first night you meet is stupid, even more so when you have a child . 🤦‍♀️Is she to blame that ted Bundys exist in the world? Of course not. But she is guilty of being complacent and not doing a better job of preventing herself and her child from being victims of one.

Yes the blame lies with Ted when it comes to his actions, however when they put the blame on him for how their own lives turned out, that's unfair. Liz was already an alcoholic before she met him due to her failed marriage

Oh what a nice guy you are 😄

What do you think she has to say? Poor girl

Amanda McGregor She didn’t have a life with him. If anything we wanna know why the mum of his kid ( 2nd wife isn’t it) stop sticking around him after his was charged (or confessed) I want to know if the kid even knows that’s her dad !! That woman stuck with him through everything but then just disappears??? I think it’s very strange as to why she just stopped seeing him, maybe she knows something. Or she just realised he’s a nut job and left but still, would be very interesting. 🧐

Why?she never even really spent time with him. I would say the step daughter was more his daughter.

Clary Fairchild they said she believed him up to the point that he confessed. After that she left him.

classicarah that’s good. She must of seen the true monster he was at that point. But I still wanna know why she believed him, what was it that made her believe him over all the evidence

@Mark Leviathan Weed is a pussy drug. I prefer LSD

blackham7 never had LSD and most likely never will because it’s very hard to get pure LSD not the fake shit, Shrooms are easier to buy where I live .

I'm always annoyed by this, when people are dumbfounded to find out that a killer had normal relationship, acts like a person. As if serial killers were always running around with foam at the mouth, yelling "I'll kill you, and you, and you..." or they'll rehash the usual pop psychology bullshit "he's a sociopath, he's wearing a mask of sanity..." What if he wasn't acting? What if he was just a human being who happened to murder people. What if murder and dark sexual urges were in all of us (as the history of warfare attests) and people like Bundy have simply a lesser ability to control those urges. But the masses can't accept that. They have to categorize others, put them in the "crazy" box so they can proclaim themselves as "sane" or "normal".

@@blackham7 Weed is a great drug, and a terrific psychedelic if used correctly. I've taken dozens or hundreds (can't tell) of acid trips and I still respect weed. They're just different. You can't take macrodoses of LSD everyday or even every week. It's too heavy, too long. Weed is great as a hallucinogen/creativity boost that you can take regularly. And it has others properties acid doesn't have: calming, anti-depressant, analgesic, sleep aid...

Mark Levianthan, weed eh? LOLOL. Okay.

C 546799 really? Wow. I didn’t know. Thanks for writing that!

@@MariaM-mc7fs yeah, she was accidentally recorded on a 'hot' mike. She was piiiised. As she should be.

Really? She's the boss!

100%...nail on the head

lol. Zack did good also

Mr T Raa true!

True Zac Efron did a good job tho! :)

but he doesn't look like ted at all

Not really, the cops ignored her. He got caught on his own.

@@reallyhappenings5597 yes but he was on suspect list

@@reallyhappenings5597 Not really, her insistence played a part in that. He got to the suspects' list/line-up because of Liz.

i no right, but she stayed with him while theese were happening

It's good to know we affect our world and the ppl in it... But it's good to know also that other ppl have free will and sometimes a calculating individual like him may have also constructed a family life to appear normal to buy more time to do what he really desired... Sometimes we're manipulated and put in a bind. It's sad. If you're in one (a bind or trapped in a violent or emotionally Manipulative relationship or even just in an elevator with a violent offender!), it would be a big mistake to fercely rely on the idea that ppl all bleed together and we can move them to become benevolent. We need to have healthy boundaries like knowing we're the only person we can truly change. Then your time and energy is not being spent on trying to vibe that person into goodness but protecting yourself by leaving, fighting for your life, running away, learning self-defense etc. I've been there. I believe based on who he is she did nothing to preserve herself except be available to be a family person. I believe he chose her with the intention of making him appear normal.

Also this implies the other girls Did something in the first 15 seconds to push the relationship in the direction of getting raped tortured and killed. So.... Boundaries?

@@youtubingbabs My personal opinion on this matter is that the reason why she was not targeted by this mentally unstable man was because A) she aproached him to begin with & B) her opening comment was "you look lonely". This i believe instantly appealed to his inner insecurity & offered a kind of contentment he found no where else. Could you expand on your idea of boundaries please?

@@youtubingbabs It was not what they did that lead to the following, it was what he was seeking that did so. No matter how a Gazelle hops or hollers the feline specie will always see it as it's prey.

@@Chyoonz boundaries is knowing what's in your power and what's in other people's power. To be relatively healthy you would not inappropriately try to control other people or their lives. Like if I'm someone's boss and pay them to be polite at my store... And theyre rude I can surely tell them to behave differently or I will fire them. If I have a friend who's rude to me, I could say... You're rude. Tell them be nice or this and that. Shame them "you're a pig! Or an oaf!" Or even get violent. But that solves nothing. Boundaries come in here... It's not appropriate to tell someone how to behave socially. I might tell them. "When you speak to me that way, it hurts my feelings or I lose respect for you and don't want to spend time with you." Then if they stop you know it's out of respect or love for you and not because they fear your wrath. If they don't change or improve... You know your feelings aren't a priority and you can then chose to continue on with them. If you keep asking more than 2 MAYBE 3 times you are now inn the wrong because it's another example of manipulation through being pushy or harassing. So boundaries help you not be play the victim role after an initial "assault" so it's not that you're ignoring you're influence on someone... Or theirs on you. It's just that by placing responsible on the right person you're lessening delusions of influence. You don't get to determine the "correct" boundaries but there are societal standards... BUT you ultimately get to set your own boundaries.

that’s GOD warning you💓💓

and HE is trying to help you always !

like being inappropriate with your daughter at 8

His attractiveness was what made his so good at what he did. It's not a case of people finding him attractive it's that he was the perfect mixture for the perfect killer

He wasn't attractive at all, he looks dead in the eyes. If I see anyone looking at me like that, I would run to the hills.

@@spac18 - it's easy to be wise after the fact and it's a bit presumptive to assume that you would be more clued up than the 20-30+ women who didn't see him as a threat at the time. We have a tendency when shown the photograph of a known serial killer, particularly one has vicious, prolific and notorious as Ted Bundy, to experience repulsion and ascribe it to particular features (eg. dead eyes) when it's really just the person's history and actions that repulse us, and if we'd saw him before he was notorious we'd probably not regard them with repulsion.

@@simonw1313 Nah, Ted Bundy always looked dead inside. He was so manipulative that he was able to hide his creepiness.

@@spac18 - Disagree.

He definitely was a handsome white male for most women at that time. He was very charismatic and always smiling which made women fall head over heels to him.

Mr Choo That’s your modern day opinion. It would be extremely difficult for him to operate the same way these days. At the time women from around the country were coming to his side. For his time, he is consider good looking and charming. It’s not a difficult scenario to understand.

Yes he was. And so was Dahmer.

Tigerlily Arcana no they wasn’t.

@@mysteriouscee1086 if I say they were handsome that means they were. My word is law.

@Dαɾk Kíss Wow that must have been a crazy reality check. Many of us just don't know how evil people can be.

@jack brandt I've heard some crazy things about politicians. Politics is a cut throat industry and can get very serious and dangerous.. We don't normally get inside information about who is doing what and why. Thanks for sharing, will do some research on them.

They say you've probly encountered a serial killer at least once in your life and either the timing wasnt right or you didnt fit what they were looking for in a victim. That's a terrifying reality check.

Rebecca Massey Wow..

@@rebeccamassey337 I read that you'll see 6 in your life. Genuinely sure I've served some at my work to be honest.

Conversations with a Killer: The Ted Bundy Tapes - Netflix

Yeah he wasn’t the one seeking her out therefore she probably wasn’t his “kill type”

I think a part of him desired to have a piece of normalcy in his life that’s why he never killed any of his girlfriends. He wanted to be in relationships, he wanted to have a family.... But he also wanted to keep a dark secret of murdering girls. It’s like after he would commit those crimes, he wanted to have something to come home to, a sense of stability. He liked living two lives.

@@Adele5554 Yup

yup thats what i was thinking too. that was the “category” of what molly described

@@michaelacaleb7919 A strange variation of the "husband has a second woman" trope.

The name of the daughter is Molly?

@@Camila-oi7do Yes

I like her

um.... daughter is cute, yes, but.... not the mom. no offence. lovely woman

I just watched it today and thought both women were extremely articulate and full of insight.

and a crybaby

No shame in that! We men to get in touch with our emotions.

@@Synthpoptroubadour Quit trolling.

Samie Smiles the majority of his victims were inexperienced, trusting, naive girls. He wanted girls he could overpower

@@tatum2739 I'm not sure. Some of the women he killed he never even spoke to. Like those girls in the sorority house. Yes, many of the girls he killed willingly went into his car. They trusted him. But that was the culture back then. People didn't even lock their doors

He probably saw the perfect victim that he could keep alive and use

She was a stable beard for him, a young single mother with low self-esteem and was a radical feminist in training, a terrible combination.

@@tatum2739 nah, an average guy can overpower 99 percent of all women, it's not that difficult.

Amen.

It's so interesting. The highly intelligent Narcissists are very skilled and practised at choosing their prey. They know how to be charming and disarming, or assess you to present themselves as the man of your dreams. They never show the ugly true self at first or they wouldn't be successful.

@@caroliner2029 - I actually don't think that Bundy was that bright - he used his real name at the Lake in Washington when he lured the two woman away to horribly murder them. That was when he first appeared on law enforcements radars as after the Ted sketch was released his partner contacted law enforcement to put him forward as a suspect. Obviously they didn't apprehend him and he moved to Utah at this point. The reason Bundy was so successful was that he murdered in different jurisdictions at a time when inter-jurisdictional cooperation was poor to non existent, he moved to different areas after a series of murders Washington → Utah → Colorado → Florida, the incompetence of LE in Colorado allowed him to escape and go to Florida where he went berserk at Florida State Univ and ended his reign of terror with the murder of Kimberly Leach, and the lack of any CCTV or other electronic devices capable of identifying his presence at abductions/killings. LE's inability to deal with such a prolific and mobile killer was his greatest help. Though hiding the bodies successfully prior to his Florida rampage was his most "intelligent" tactic but that was a product of his desire to revisit the corpses and indulge in necrophilia and not as an avoidance tactic.

@@simonw1313 thank you for your reply. I didn't know all of those details.

Not really, they were his beards.

And of course the girlfriend will be the one criticized for trusting him too long.

@@blackswan4486 As they should, that woman were morons to trust Ted with her children.

What was it?

Amen!

The thing is Liz did - she got in touch with police a number of times after the murders of the two women at the lake (when he used his own name and attempted to lure 7 or so other girls/women before he succeeded) and the police released a "Ted" profile picture.

👏👏👏👏👏

Don't do online dating please.

Be careful, I meet a dooble low life man, compulsive gambler who traumatised me and my daughter for life

@@ettydavis--I'm always hearing about unemployed boyfriends babysitting, and the mother coming home to find her baby unconscious and rushed to the hospital, where they find brain damage and a bunch of half-healed broken bones. Later, the child is a vegetable strapped to a wheelchair.

not all men on dating apps are dangerous. ive met a very good one recently. i got the luck of the draw. but rather you meet someone in person or online theres Still a risk

Online dating is horrifying! Join a group, a club, a sports team, a bible study, or whatever, but you and your children are a target for online scammers...

why is her neck paralyzed like that ? did she have a stroke ?

you're welcome

ApplePie did you watch the documentary? He did messed up things with the daughter. He got naked while playing tag with her and other messed up things. That disgusting monster didn’t know how to love let alone show it towards those 2 women

He didn’t love them. He was incapable of truly loving anyone but himself because he had a personality disorder and was psychotic. He only used them to appear normal to other people by cultivating a normal wholesome family oriented lifestyle. Essentially Liz and Molly were used as a cover so he could continue to kill without looking suspect.

LM085 not nearly as Gruesome as he really was

Ann Rule (author of The stranger beside me book) said his portrayal as the older Ted was spot on. But young Ted as he was when she met him was far less self confident.

you're interesting

Just finished reading that today,good read.

lol

Oh yes they both look so traumatised

Liz was also pretty much supporting Ted. Ted always lived beyond his means. That may have been part of it as well.

narcissists cant love anyone

Lourde Alexander never said she was and I know that lmao that’s why I said “her daughter” 🤦🏻‍♀️

Cosmetic surgery

Doug H idc she still looks pretty

@@sdrfz the Kylie effect 😂

Neishas Crazyworld Kylie is still pretty too ?

What? He was obviously guilty, just look at his eyes, he always looked a vacant shell of a man.

@@spac18 if you can’t read my comment. Don’t ask ‘what’. I said. I partially fell for his act. Because of how manipulative and cunning he was.

@@katrinarivett5428 It's called not understand your thought process, not a failure to understanding your words. Work on your comprehension skills.

@@spac18 work on my comprehension skills? Lmao. Bless your little cotton socks. It isn’t my fault you misread my whole comment. See yourself out mate. I’m not in the mood to interact with you today. 😂

@@katrinarivett5428 whatever, you're irrelevant anyways

I am horribly over trusting. It has led me to marry or have a long term relationship with some truly evil men. At my point now, I don’t ever want another relationship for the rest of my life

@@lisamitchell9877 every one had a bad experience in their life and some of them worst than u , please don’t give up , there still good ppl out there and there’s a lot of guys gonna give u them hearts, u have to just wait for the right person, and u will find him , I’m pretty confident, cuz ur a beautiful woman and u deserve that perfect guy ,take care .

@@user-iz5qq9ht1m very kind of you. ☺️ Thank you

They were safe in a way because their friends and family knew of their relationship obviously and if Ted violently murdered either of them, he'd be the prime suspect. All his victims were strangers with no connections to him or his inner circle. However, the rafting incident where he pushed her off, if successful in that she drown, could've been explained as a "rafting accident" and Ted knew that.

@@steez5769 well said. I suspect that pushing Liz off the raft was a boundary pushing behaviour. He might have been toying with the idea of making her his next victim, if he was bored of her and Molly. It was certainly a manipulation for an emotional response, for "fuel" which is the Narcissist's lifeblood. It asserted control over her in that moment, so Bundy would have gotten a dopamine hit to the brain. I heard Liz say that she thought that Bundy loved her. HG Tudor explains that Narcissists will say they love you only as a manipulation, although unaware Narcissists will believe that they mean it. Bundy was self-aware, and highly intelligent, and incapable of loving or bonding with anyone.

He didn't love them.

Leave her alone... She probably wants nothing to do with a killer and knowing the public, they will show no mercy for her.

What could she say?? I’m sure it’s shameful & embarrassing to her that he’s her Father, she can’t really speak on his character because she didn’t really spend that much time with him & he died when she was so young. Besides, I heard that she changed her name so it would be pointless to speak out at this point because her anonymity would’ve been a waste.

I'm curious if she watched the movie

I think Ted died before she was born so I don’t think she’d really have anything to say about him.

@@amberrfaith Ted died when his daughter was 7 years old

Which young girl?

@@AnneOhn123 the daughter

I don't think he would, he's was sociopath, he wouldn't have felt empathy.

she's dead....

@@Sochickwlw123 She is? Pity.

@@nikkirivera5307 yea she was supposed to get interviewed but she suddenly just died

@@Sochickwlw123 how did you know she was gonna get interviewed?

@@shruti9668 I think one of her friends said

@@rickricardofication date a narcissist and find out. Or do your research BEFORE you speak.

barely

Agreed

Incredible woman ????

@@Simona.2323 ?yes

Nah, just another reckless hippie

@@spac18 no