I know. What a little fool. She's like _"wHoA! $1,000, wE aRe RICH! LeT's BuY a mAnSiOn AnD pRiVaTe JeT!!!"_

I honestly thought i was hearing wrong.

I mean. Technically it is. For rent and bills. But that's about it. 😹

@@PikachuBolt10029 Not even that really these days. The security deposit and move in fees on a one bed apartment in Atlanta is already over $1000 just from quickly looking on Zillow. Rent and utilities are $1000-$2000. How they think they could run away on $1000 is crazy.

My jaw dropped hearing that I was thinking she was going to say hundreds of thousands. Doing this to anyone is insane but her own grandparents for a pathetic $1k… so sickening 😭

I know what you did eve

Especially because it seems her grandmother would give it to her readily

⭐️ He definitely groomed & brainwashed her before committing these crimes. My cult family member who abused me on a scale only a few know kept over 1 mil cash in a safe. My revenge was justice through court proceedings. I don’t care where the money went b/c my abuser will suffer in jail forever. #survivor

That's what I'm saying man!!! The fact that such young people who think they're in love and endgame, they have tunnel vision, they have zero sense of life yet so they have zero care about anyone but themselves and the person they're with. It's terrifying.

@@vtgamerk6344Eve isn’t real

Reminds me of the philosophers stone from fma brotherhood

It wasn't the money

It actually was though​@@abigailpartida6170

Finally someone who actually knows about them lol thank u

Was looking for this comment!!!

Yes! I've watched so many documentaries and docu dramas.. even the docu-dramas seem to depict the same thing..

​@MSpruce90 Bonnie and Clyde have been intriguing to me since early childhood because we grew up in some of the areas where they committed their crimes. I have not seen any documentaries or docudramas on Bonnie and Clyde. I was wondering if you had the time if you could post a couple of links to some of those documentaries. I'd really appreciate it but if it's too much, I get it! 😊

@@Jakal-pw8yq The one I've seen most recently and can remember clearly enough to recommend is on the KZfaq channel "The Casual Criminalist" by the title of "Bonnie and Clyde: Lovers, Outlaws, Morons." But just be warned that that channel has writers and a host (Simon Whistler) who reads scripts aloud for the first time as he's recording them, so there is a lot of commentary from him as he's learning things during the script and also it's quite long at 3 hours+! I don't agree with all of his opinions but I still liked it a lot because I felt it went into a lot of detail about their story!

it is. but honestly and sadly it’s the world we live in..

i miss original comments

@@r3vora sorry I just thought of it I'm not trying to be a copy LOL

@@r3vorasame 💀

Its not concerning, just devastating

while drinking her milkshake like it's just casual talk.... insane

fr... the way she talked about killing her family like it was just some high school drama... insane..

Cant believe no ones said it yet but…insane

Banana town

When you have severe trauma of any sort people tend to have no emotions or are calm about it. I do it when I talk about my issues but never on this level lol

For people hell bent on murder you'd think they'd be aware that people can urinate and defacate when they die

Probably a psycopath. Unfortunately society has given them a pass and has allowed them to breed this into our gene pool. There’s a study I recall where when you ask a series of questions of “how would it feel for this person if this happened” to a psychopath, they would most likely fail. It’s because they lack the part of their brain that gives normal people empathy. Hence, they are more likely to think like this as they literally cannot comprehend other’s emotions or viewpoints.

She is probably a psycopath. This condition causes anyone inflicted with it to lack empathy

and how does she not know that most humans pee and poop themselves because theyre human! no more muscles to hold anything therefore it comes out and its shocking she either didnt know or thought it was “gross” as she says which is heartbreaking

The grandmother was certainly afraid beyond any believe, incomprehensible for most people, but that's likely not the reason why she let lose. That's likely because she was already pretty dead (and not pretending).

lol I love her husband's commentary, it adds much needed levity

lol I love her husband's commentary, it adds much needed levity

I thought it was just me😂😂his comments always add just a sprinkle of what's needed at any given time lol

Time stamp please?

@@Pambiritika 9:20

There is no reasoning with evil people

@@roro4787 There actually is. Instead of demonizing you can study and understan this behavior and what leads to it. That way you can prevent future tragedies to happen instead just throwing your hands in the air and say they are evil.

​@@baumkuchen6543 so what was the reason if you'd like to explain?

@@NehaSingh-ee3sureason being she didn’t want to get her friends involved nor in any trouble it could be she thought bringing them up was irrelevant since they didn’t have anything to do with it definitely some other possible reasons I’m leaving out just to lazy to think of some others but you can probably think of some reasons

@@roro4787 There was a reason. When Cassandra lied about not inviting people to the house, the reason for that was wanting to protect the anonymity of her best friend and not involving her in this case (she and her boyfriend were those two who went for a visit, who were introduced as drug dealers - maybe they were, idk). And when it came out, she was very upset, she looked like she was about to cry. One of the detectives even asked a question like: "You just casually talked about murdering your grandparents without showing any emotions, so what's going on with this girl that it made you so upset?" She replied, that she (a friend) was always there for her when she was going through the hardest time and that this is one of her closest people in her life. Think about it - what could be the LOGICAL selfish motive to lie about this particular topic, which couldn't have a real impact on the verdict? This small piece of the interview shows that she is capable of selective empathy. How does that fit your amateur psychiatric diagnosis that she is an ultimate psychopath/sociopath without the capability to feel such human emotions? This is a great occasion to realize that human psychology is much, much more complicated than you probably think.

yeah that’s so sick

She was most likely NOT pretending to be dead. She was just unconscious from the beatings. And the fact she can't even grasp THAT shows what she really is. She's clearly a psychopath. Let's not see her as "normal". That is NOT to say people that a psychologically normal don' commit heinous crimes. But the combination of her lack of remorse, and even self-awareness that others around her don't see things as chilly as she sees AND the lack of real motive shows that. She's plainly a psychopath. Evil but non-psychopath people would have a motive, a real motive (at east in their heads) and even being cold they CAN understand how people AROUND them don't see things like that.

Yeah, even after one good hit to the head a person can be knocked out, doesnt mean theyre pretending 😢​@@JohnnyLynnLee

I don’t think she was pretending. She was unconscious and dying.

@@JohnnyLynnLee regardless..the fact that she believed her grandma was pretending then decided to finish her off was just…evil. Fuck. There’s like zero levels of remorse.

Indeed

Very true.

Ikr its crazy the lengths they would go to date that other person its crazy💯💯

Yeah

For real though because how do they both find out that they want to be murderers. Does one tell the other hoping for the best and find out they're the same? Scary shit fr man

Like i told the girl im the comments the one that said sum bout the gilr used to go to her school, i told her and said if u luv God obey his commandments, the commandments think of them as a help more than just sum rule, God is literally leading us from hell also u may wonder why God nv killed satan, its becuz taht wouldve went against his character as a loving God, the we would all be afraid of God even the angels😭. Fear him even tho God does hv a great humor, fear him dont be afraid tho

The entire point of all of it is forgiveness for sins 😂 weather you think religion is a joke, or the answer, the entire point of it is forgiveness 😂 someone, god or human, created the entire thing, so humans could be/feel forgiven for their sins lol. Of course people use religion the way they do 😂

​@@zeldaxninja3214 You shouldn't just follow gods rules, but also those of basic spelling. o.o

And her eyes… straight up literal darkness in and around them... Pure evil

Looks kind of like the Grinch...

Yeah I couldn’t look away from her eyes. Just creepy

I have watched the whole interrogation with Cassandra and I believe there are some crucial things that Stephanie failed to mention or analyze. Firstly, based on what Cassie said, her grandparents called the cops on her as a reaction to her misbehaving and that was one of the reasons for her anger towards them. When I was 16/17, my parents also didn't know how to cope with me. I was partying a lot, experimenting with drugs, and being extremely rude. However, there are some boundaries in disciplining teenagers that caregivers shouldn't cross no matter what (to be clear - I'm talking about involving cops to punish a teenager, not for reporting serious crimes like finding a human head in a son's closet). If they had called the police on me then, I'm sure that even now, after 8 years, I would still feel an enormous grudge against them, and our relations would be much more distant. I mean... This is very huge and should lead to different speculations about this family dynamics, but Stephanie decided to ignore this part and referred to her grandparents only in this black-and-white manner. There are two proverbs in the Polish language (my native) that could be translated to: "The hell is paved by good intentions" and "Overzealousness is worse than fascism". That basically means that when you do something to someone without their consent or against their will, thinking that it's for their own good, it's easy to do more harm and damage. Obviously, you can't completely avoid making these kinds of decisions when raising a child, but I believe Cassandra's grandparents took it too far. I don't deny that they loved their granddaughter with all their hearts. They wished her the best and most likely did everything with good intentions, but that doesn't contradict the fact they made some terrible mistakes. They simply wanted to keep her safe at home and isolate her from her new boyfriend. They probably implemented very strict rules about going out with friends that were a chasm between the lifestyles of her peers. A lot of people would agree that it is not healthy to treat a 17-year-old like that. Both neglecting and the extreme version of "helicopter parenting" may be considered abuse. We don't know, what their daily life looked like, but won't you agree that calling the police on a kid is pretty extreme? There is also one very telling thing from the interrogation. When Cassandra lied about not inviting people to the house, the reason for that was wanting to protect the anonymity of her best friend and not involving her in this case (she and her boyfriend were those two who went for a visit, who were introduced as drug dealers - maybe they were, idk). And when it came out, she was very upset, she looked like she was about to cry. One of the detectives even asked a question like: "You just casually talked about murdering your grandparents without showing any emotions, so what's going on with this girl that it made you so upset?" She replied, that she (a friend) was always there for her when she was going through the hardest time and that this is one of her closest people in her life. Think about it - what could be the LOGICAL selfish motive to lie about this particular topic, which couldn't have a real impact on the verdict? This small piece of the interview shows that she is capable of selective empathy. How does that fit your amateur psychiatric diagnosis that she is an ultimate psychopath/sociopath without the capability to feel such human emotions? This is a great occasion to realize that human psychology is much, much more complicated than you probably think. To sum up, when I look at this case, I don't see just an evil teen who murders her sweet and wholesome grandparents in cold blood. In the first place, I see a 17yrs girl who was traumatized not a long time before, who was in the storm of hormones because of having a new boyfriend and hadn't got a space to experience youth love, to make those first steps before engaging in something more mature - most likely, but not necessarily with another person (from the autopsy, I know that individuals who were in relatively serious romantic relationships as teenagers will have an easier time in this area as adults). It was made difficult for her at every step. At some point, something broke inside this already physically vulnerable girl who couldn't stand the demands of her caregivers anymore. She probably felt that they wanted to take away from her everything which brings her joy. I'm 100% sure that she didn't commit this crime if they gave her more freedom. Also, knowing that instead of escaping the state immediately they were hung out in this house with dead bodies upstairs and spent money without any plan of how to avoid being caught, it doesn't seem that Cassandra was in a clear state of mind. It sounds like she could be on some maniacal rush and was denying the reality. It may be related to dissociation or delusions. I encourage you to consider this issue also from a different perspective than Stephanie presented, and only then come to a conclusion.

@@angrydeer6011 and Stephanie always tells us to give out criticism to help her improve with her storytelling or tell her what she may have missed which she missed all of what you said and I appreciate the time you took to tell us all about a different perspective to look into. Thanks for letting me know all that I found it interesting and I can see where you're coming from upon that. Maybe that's why Cassandra had that stare that was just creepy and gave me shivers. Maybe she was a mentally unstable teen or traumatized teen that killed her grandparents because of things they did to her. I'll never fully take anyone's side when it comes to true crimes, not everyone's in the right even when they seem to be. There's probably things Cassandra knows that we will never know. What she did to her grandparents is beyond forgivable but looking into a different perspective gives us ideas on how to reach a conclusion or good idea of what might be the truth

She was too young to be diagnosed as a psychopath, but I cant see how it could be anything else. When murdering your grandma is just “kinda grouse”, youre beyond redeem.

I watched her interrogation on EWU. It's chilling tbh. If you haven't seen it yet go take a look at it.

​@user-cp7bi1yq5e I remember watching this one and being so disturbed by her flat effect and how she can't grasp the seriousness of the situation she is in at all

I have watched the whole interrogation with Cassandra and I believe there are some crucial things that Stephanie failed to mention or analyze. Firstly, based on what Cassie said, her grandparents called the cops on her as a reaction to her misbehaving and that was one of the reasons for her anger towards them. When I was 16/17, my parents also didn't know how to cope with me. I was partying a lot, experimenting with drugs, and being extremely rude. However, there are some boundaries in disciplining teenagers that caregivers shouldn't cross no matter what (to be clear - I'm talking about involving cops to punish a teenager, not for reporting serious crimes like finding a human head in a son's closet). If they had called the police on me then, I'm sure that even now, after 8 years, I would still feel an enormous grudge against them, and our relations would be much more distant. I mean... This is very huge and should lead to different speculations about this family dynamics, but Stephanie decided to ignore this part and referred to her grandparents only in this black-and-white manner. There are two proverbs in the Polish language (my native) that could be translated to: "The hell is paved by good intentions" and "Overzealousness is worse than fascism". That basically means that when you do something to someone without their consent or against their will, thinking that it's for their own good, it's easy to do more harm and damage. Obviously, you can't completely avoid making these kinds of decisions when raising a child, but I believe Cassandra's grandparents took it too far. I don't deny that they loved their granddaughter with all their hearts. They wished her the best and most likely did everything with good intentions, but that doesn't contradict the fact they made some terrible mistakes. They simply wanted to keep her safe at home and isolate her from her new boyfriend. They probably implemented very strict rules about going out with friends that were a chasm between the lifestyles of her peers. A lot of people would agree that it is not healthy to treat a 17-year-old like that. Both neglecting and the extreme version of "helicopter parenting" may be considered abuse. We don't know, what their daily life looked like, but won't you agree that calling the police on a kid is pretty extreme? There is also one very telling thing from the interrogation. When Cassandra lied about not inviting people to the house, the reason for that was wanting to protect the anonymity of her best friend and not involving her in this case (she and her boyfriend were those two who went for a visit, who were introduced as drug dealers - maybe they were, idk). And when it came out, she was very upset, she looked like she was about to cry. One of the detectives even asked a question like: "You just casually talked about murdering your grandparents without showing any emotions, so what's going on with this girl that it made you so upset?" She replied, that she (a friend) was always there for her when she was going through the hardest time and that this is one of her closest people in her life. Think about it - what could be the LOGICAL selfish motive to lie about this particular topic, which couldn't have a real impact on the verdict? This small piece of the interview shows that she is capable of selective empathy. How does that fit your amateur psychiatric diagnosis that she is an ultimate psychopath/sociopath without the capability to feel such human emotions? This is a great occasion to realize that human psychology is much, much more complicated than you probably think. To sum up, when I look at this case, I don't see just an evil teen who murders her sweet and wholesome grandparents in cold blood. In the first place, I see a 17yrs girl who was traumatized not a long time before, who was in the storm of hormones because of having a new boyfriend and hadn't got a space to experience youth love, to make those first steps before engaging in something more mature - most likely, but not necessarily with another person (from the autopsy, I know that individuals who were in relatively serious romantic relationships as teenagers will have an easier time in this area as adults). It was made difficult for her at every step. At some point, something broke inside this already physically vulnerable girl who couldn't stand the demands of her caregivers anymore. She probably felt that they wanted to take away from her everything which brings her joy. I'm 100% sure that she didn't commit this crime if they gave her more freedom. Also, knowing that instead of escaping the state immediately they were hung out in this house with dead bodies upstairs and spent money without any plan of how to avoid being caught, it doesn't seem that Cassandra was in a clear state of mind. It sounds like she could be on some maniacal rush and was denying the reality. It may be related to dissociation or delusions. I encourage you to consider this issue also from a different perspective than Stephanie presented, and only then come to a conclusion.

@@angrydeer6011 When there is broken bones, it’s well beyond misbehaving and a police matter, imo.

Wow. So sad. :(

I'm so sorry

I can’t even imagine. I’m so sorry. This story really hurt my heart. I can’t even imagine laying a hand on my grandparents.

That sounds insane!! I’d definitely love Stephanie to cover that! ❤

Horrific, those poor girls.

I can already feel my anger rising up. I hope Stephanie sees this

You can actually suggest the story on her website, I think it’s more likely to get her to see it there

@@jfc32337this

Lol my thought after hearing him say that was “hm. Men say the darndest things”😂😂

😢 holy fuck thats actually scary

I don't even know what to say, I'm so sorry you've been through this... Stay safe 🙏🏻🫂

That is WILD. I love that you work with names haha James seems to belong to a mental ward, I doubt he won’t try to kill again

wtf, where do you live? That's horrifying

I’m so sorry that happened to you! How did you get away from him in that situation? Now that he’s out I hope you don’t live in fear and that he’s been rehabilitated or better yet, found Jesus and turned his life around.

LITREALLY SAME.

same 😂

To me that's crazier than attempting to host a party. Like they were soo in the mood even with the smell and everything reminding them of what they'd done.

i was so concerned cuz in the beginning stephanie says there’s intimate videos of couple C on couple A’s phone lol i was like EXCUSE ME!?

literally i don’t even understand how someone could do that to a person who did nothing but love you!!! and then go out and act like nun happened!!! COMPLETELY FU$$ING SICK

for real… i had a hard time listening to the details on what they did to her grandparents… i love my grandparents to death and i’ve always had a soft spot for the elderly..

I dont think any of us as ethnic families can understand this

I teared up so many times listening to this, just thinking this could be done to one’s elderly grandparents

Lola is such a cute name for grandma! Havent heard that before. And as someone who was raised by grandparents (granny is still alive, shes 92), I can relate; I want nothing but good for her, as long as she has. I would rather kill myself than her, no discussion. I cant fathom the Cassandras of this world, you have to be seriously self-centered to do what she did, for 1000 bucks and puppy love.. ugh.

And that’s why teens don’t listen to their parents. If you belittle them and dismiss their emotions, of course they won’t listen. And that’s how you get pregnant teens/killer teens, groomed teens etc. Their feelings are real and valid, guide them through them instead of dismissing them 🙂

@@cynthiagonzalez3193 I think this girl was beyond being saved at this point. She has no empathy.

She's clearly a psychopath. Let's not see her as "normal". That is NOT to say people that a psychologically normal don' commit heinous crimes. But the combination of her lack of remorse, and even self-awareness that others around her don't see things as chilly as she sees AND the lack of real motive shows that. She's plainly a psychopath. Evil but non-psychopath people would have a motive, a real motive (at east in their heads) and even being cold they CAN understand how people AROUND them don't see things like that. It's NOT about normal teens we are alking about here.

not really, most teens dont randomly murder loved ones for "teen love"

that's literally the worst way to censor something, jfc

Yeah and they boy neither 🙄

it kinda does tho, she's legit terrifying

the case is scary

Sorta has all the business really

Your mother normally travels in the trunk?

@@mattihaapoja8203 time of death wouldn’t match up with the time of the accident either

I don't think they could have lived with that guilt outside

Yeah it's gonna be hard to convince the cops the mom died in the trunk lol

That's horrible. However, as a medical provider, I can assure you that there is no way they'd get away with blaming the mother's death on the car accident. Just based on her the state of her body, alone. Accident reconstruction is extremely in-depth; even when a person doesn't die in the process. Her body making it to the trunk would be immediately questioned from the start - let alone when all the data is collected during reconstruction and calculated, showing that it doesn't match up as plausible or a possibility. Her injuries wouldn't match up with the injuries that are expected from an accident of that kind, to their own injuries, or what would be possible from the vehicle. Especially since she was already dead going in - post mortem injuries look very different than the injuries that occur before. Her body temperature, lividity, rigor mortis, decomp, and all other factors found in her autopsy would not match up correctly. Part of accident reconstruction involves calculating where bodies are thrown/land in and out of a vehicle, the types of injuries that are possible, the force needed for unexplainable circumstances, tons of thorough measurements and remeasurements, extensive photographs, and so much more. Along with more and more departments/agencies using 3D crime scene scanning and imaging of severe, deadly, suspicious, or complicated accidents. This is why it often takes hours for significant accidents to be cleared off the roadways. On top of reconstruction, cars have a device called an electronic data recorder for multiple decades, now (often referred to black boxes.) These record vital data for seconds before an accident. This shows seatbelt usage, change in velocity, how brakes were applied, what occurred with the steering wheel, air bag info, speed, etc. Combining that data with reconstruction and autopsies/medical exams gives a pretty good idea of what occurred and what is physically possible.

Was she not very bright?

@@tifKh she thinks $1k is enough money to go on the run and be rich. so im gonna assume she wasn't very bright.

@@tifKh yes, she was not very bright. she was a cellist and wasn't any good at playing and was constantly called out for goofing off. i don't know what her grades were like but i'm sure they weren't great lol

Had she gone through bad stuff with her family?

@@koul3709 i personally didn't know the details at the time i knew her but i knew she did have problems at home while living with her mom and she moved away to live with her grandparents after they got custody of her like the video mentioned. this was maybe about a year before she killed them... honestly, the way she spoke in the video was how she talked all the time. if she was having mental problems severe enough to kill people behind it, it didn't show.

fr

that’s what these people find fascination in tho

Debatable. Not in this case, sure, but there are probably a handful of scenarios in which you might need to - like in life or death situations (where if you don't kill you'll never see your loved one because either you or they'll be dead), or other extremes.

Right? And these people think they're not gonna get caught / chased by police?

Bro don't insult momo like that

@@lukacs7161lololllll

Hahaha perfect question! LOL

homework for me lol 😭

Everydaaaay I sleep to Stephanie's voice hahaha

Sleep or eating for me

I was just cleaning lol

this comment is so out of touch with the video

@@bimalsingha2106they’re right tho

She never had a chance, they screwed her up.

It's all about the vibes... 😂

You need to understand one thing. Cassandra was supposed to be assaulted by her step father. Those things do unimaginable things to childs development and mind. Those things are life lasting. Among many there is dissasociation and emotional detachment. It’s not an excuse of course, but it’s about understanding instead of demonizing. Understanding makes you catch early signs to prevent other tragedies to occur.

If you plan to mistreat and neglect a child, you won't want that child, trust me.

Just don't spoil children with materials. Spoil them with love but not to the point of enabling them. This is just so simple. If the child is troubled then find the issue. Believe me my siblings and I didn't get the happiest childhood. It wasn't awful but let's say it did get us all interested in why people harm others. I was quite a peculiar child, even now and then I question whether there is something wrong with me. But I have to thank my mom for that. If anything parents scare me more than children.

Brave? Nobody is gonna hurt her for making readily available info online. Stfu

Fred and rosemary west

@@Chatndivathe “Barbie & Ken killers” Karla Homolka & Paul Bernardo

Ikr I thought she was 10

I'm also curious about it too. And while some people will say well that doesn't excuse or I went through bad stuff. Yes, they did but she didn't. Maybe because she didn't have anyone?. When I say anyone I mean usually people do latch on other people who help them out. It could be just 1 person. They're such thing as bad and good influence. And let us not dismiss her age. Because even though she isn't that intelligent. Her age made it easier to manipulate. And I'm not excusing her. But I'm trying to look at this objectively. Free will exist but how can you choose if it's as unclear to you as an unknown language? Does that makes sense? Sorry sometimes I get quite deep thinker in such things.

We all should be scared of having kids. It’s almost like you all don’t know the dangers and the responsibility of having a kid in this fkced up world that everyday is getting worse. You all just give birth to multibillion dollar companies’s sl@v€s and dont even realize it. You give birth to people to be as miserable or more as you

We all should be scared of having kids. It’s almost like you all don’t know the dangers and the responsibility of having a kid in this fkced up world that everyday is getting worse. You all just give birth to multibillion dollar companies’s sl@v€s and dont even realize it. You give birth to people to be as miserable or more as you

We all should be scared of having kids. It’s almost like you all don’t know the dangers and the responsibility of having a kid in this fkced up world that everyday is getting worse. You all just give birth to multibillion dollar companies’s sl@v€s and dont even realize it. You give birth to people to be as miserable or more as you

We all should be scared of having kids. It’s almost like you all don’t know the dangers and the responsibility of having a kid in this fkced up world that everyday is getting worse. You all just give birth to multibillion dollar companies’s sl@v€s and dont even realize it. You give birth to people to be as miserable or more as you

They only regret being caught

@@necessaryevile sadly that may be true.

I'm sorry for your loss 🖤

Same. I lost my mom and it hurts

Right. I feel like I'm a pretty clean person and I couldn't even tell you the last time I bought or used bleach. Anything more than a bottle bought at a time should be flagged by stores, jic the police come asking questions

Me when that one tomato stain won't go away

This is true

didn't watch the full video but it is vile that female killers always have a story where they were (s*xually) abused by men, meanwhile male serial killers can have normal childhood but due to prnsickness still kill

@ManiyaVinas I haven't noticed that at all. There's a reason that the worst thing you can call someone is mf. Perhaps the trend you noticed could be due to male victims of incest being less likely to reveal this. They might feel more culpable or they realize that they will get little public sympathy. I feel these guys are way more dangerous than women similarly abused

@@ManiyaVinas Your misandry is showing.

It’s also not an excuse for murder though. I’m a victim of CSA and while some get emotionally developmentally stunted, some are more like me and just end up behaving like adults at a very early age. But it also can wax and wane, so sometimes I don’t always react appropriately to emotional stress. Stephanie has said it before but I’m a firm believer that trauma doesn’t make you violent, you have to have that in you before the trauma happens.

I’m wondering the same! Life in prison and parole after 60 years seems excessive for a person who can barely function as a human…

@@malinasworldIt’s probably not the worst for she because like you’ve said, she could barely function like a human and it would be hard for her to get a normal life out there in the society. I’m terrified by what she did. At the same time part of me kind of feel sorry for a child making such a horrible mistake when she was still too young to understood anything at all. She still has to pay for what she did though. The damage can’t be redone after all.

Also feels like he loved bombed the crap out of her. There’s not enough on his side. Why did he get a divorce? Did he love bomb and manipulate her? Was he abusive? Was she? was he rebounding when he got with her? Is that why is family was against them? Were they against her or against him being in another relationship so fast? So many questions.

Hope therapy makes you feel better, don’t need anymore Johnny/Cassandra.

Thank you for saying all this! It’s so unfair that all the focus of this video is on Cassandra because she fits the psycho b**** bill, while Johnny just gets to be the lovesick puppy who went too far for his gf.

I have the same feeling. Wish she had therapy before things went so horribly wrong. Now it’s a little bit too late for her to have a redemption arc. She’s already neck deep in the swamp of crime and sin.

The video is primarily focused on her because she was willing to talk. Johnny wasn't speaking to the detectives. There should have been more background on him, but maybe there wasn't enough info.

Can you tell us some more about how she was as a friend and student, please?

Thanks for this interesting insight. She reminds me so much of some of my family members that are on Adderall and self medicate with other controlled and illegal substances. Seem so out of touch with reality and don't have normal emotions. Then again, maybe they are psychopaths..

Bipd?

@@Daydream_Nbipolar disorder

​@@pagaporvista569 no psychopathy is actually very rare the family member that acts like this are more than likely behaving that way due to the mixture of pills that they're taking

I agree, even if she was too young for that diagnose at the time. I just cant see it being anything else. And Id bet she has had new victims in prison, she is that type of girl who messes with other people for entertainment and creates drama out of thin air. I feel bad for people in her path, they are bound to be used and discarded. Luckily she doesnt seem to be extremely smart.

I agree!

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My life is complete

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Always here waiting for Stephanie 's new video

She’s honesty just kind of unintelligent tbh. I’m 16, one year younger and working at a podcast to make a little under $1000 by the end of the month, most ppl working there are about my age or 1-3 years older than me, and we all are very aware that it’s not a lot of money and that we cannot recklessly spend it all.

Bro when I was 15 i thought $250 was a lot of money 😂

Im pretty sure i earned at least 1k during an internship and knew it wasnt much. This girl just wasn't bright

i’m 13 and i know that $1000 isn’t a lot of money.

frrrrr

She looks possessed. Like even when she stared at the camera, I got freaked out….

That is a yawn. It's called clickbait. They always go for the least flattering thumbnail. I think most people would look possessed when yawning and you freeze the video at the right moment.

Omg I know right!

​@@sverkegrndahl1650 it's hardly clickbait when she literally looks like that just while talking. Wide eyed and spaced out and almost inhuman

I have watched the whole interrogation with Cassandra and I believe there are some crucial things that Stephanie failed to mention or analyze. Firstly, based on what Cassie said, her grandparents called the cops on her as a reaction to her misbehaving and that was one of the reasons for her anger towards them. When I was 16/17, my parents also didn't know how to cope with me. I was partying a lot, experimenting with drugs, and being extremely rude. However, there are some boundaries in disciplining teenagers that caregivers shouldn't cross no matter what (to be clear - I'm talking about involving cops to punish a teenager, not for reporting serious crimes like finding a human head in a son's closet). If they had called the police on me then, I'm sure that even now, after 8 years, I would still feel an enormous grudge against them, and our relations would be much more distant. I mean... This is very huge and should lead to different speculations about this family dynamics, but Stephanie decided to ignore this part and referred to her grandparents only in this black-and-white manner. There are two proverbs in the Polish language (my native) that could be translated to: "The hell is paved by good intentions" and "Overzealousness is worse than fascism". That basically means that when you do something to someone without their consent or against their will, thinking that it's for their own good, it's easy to do more harm and damage. Obviously, you can't completely avoid making these kinds of decisions when raising a child, but I believe Cassandra's grandparents took it too far. I don't deny that they loved their granddaughter with all their hearts. They wished her the best and most likely did everything with good intentions, but that doesn't contradict the fact they made some terrible mistakes. They simply wanted to keep her safe at home and isolate her from her new boyfriend. They probably implemented very strict rules about going out with friends that were a chasm between the lifestyles of her peers. A lot of people would agree that it is not healthy to treat a 17-year-old like that. Both neglecting and the extreme version of "helicopter parenting" may be considered abuse. We don't know, what their daily life looked like, but won't you agree that calling the police on a kid is pretty extreme? There is also one very telling thing from the interrogation. When Cassandra lied about not inviting people to the house, the reason for that was wanting to protect the anonymity of her best friend and not involving her in this case (she and her boyfriend were those two who went for a visit, who were introduced as drug dealers - maybe they were, idk). And when it came out, she was very upset, she looked like she was about to cry. One of the detectives even asked a question like: "You just casually talked about murdering your grandparents without showing any emotions, so what's going on with this girl that it made you so upset?" She replied, that she (a friend) was always there for her when she was going through the hardest time and that this is one of her closest people in her life. Think about it - what could be the LOGICAL selfish motive to lie about this particular topic, which couldn't have a real impact on the verdict? This small piece of the interview shows that she is capable of selective empathy. How does that fit your amateur psychiatric diagnosis that she is an ultimate psychopath/sociopath without the capability to feel such human emotions? This is a great occasion to realize that human psychology is much, much more complicated than you probably think. To sum up, when I look at this case, I don't see just an evil teen who murders her sweet and wholesome grandparents in cold blood. In the first place, I see a 17yrs girl who was traumatized not a long time before, who was in the storm of hormones because of having a new boyfriend and hadn't got a space to experience youth love, to make those first steps before engaging in something more mature - most likely, but not necessarily with another person (from the autopsy, I know that individuals who were in relatively serious romantic relationships as teenagers will have an easier time in this area as adults). It was made difficult for her at every step. At some point, something broke inside this already physically vulnerable girl who couldn't stand the demands of her caregivers anymore. She probably felt that they wanted to take away from her everything which brings her joy. I'm 100% sure that she didn't commit this crime if they gave her more freedom. Also, knowing that instead of escaping the state immediately they were hung out in this house with dead bodies upstairs and spent money without any plan of how to avoid being caught, it doesn't seem that Cassandra was in a clear state of mind. It sounds like she could be on some maniacal rush and was denying the reality. It may be related to dissociation or delusions. I encourage you to consider this issue also from a different perspective than Stephanie presented, and only then come to a conclusion.

@@angrydeer6011 Thank you for your insightful analysis. While I appreciate your perspective, I must respectfully disagree with the notion that Cassandra displayed significant empathy or that her actions can be primarily attributed to strict parenting and psychological stress. 1. Brutality of the Crime: The extreme violence - involving blunt force trauma and slitting throats - indicates a level of brutality beyond typical teenage rebellion or reaction to strict parenting. These actions suggest a profound lack of empathy and emotional detachment. 2. Lack of Remorse: Cassandra's behavior after the crime, including staying with the decomposing bodies and hosting a drug-fueled party, demonstrates a significant lack of remorse, inconsistent with someone who feels empathy or guilt. 3. Selective Empathy: While her emotional response concerning her friend may indicate selective empathy, this can be self-serving. Protecting her friend could be more about self-preservation than genuine emotional connection. 4. Psychological State: Even if Cassandra experienced psychological issues, the extreme nature of her actions suggests a severe deficiency in empathy. Many with psychological distress do not resort to such violence. 5. Ensuring Her Grandmother's Death: At one point, Cassandra realized her grandmother might be pretending to be dead and told her boyfriend to finish her off. This act shows a complete lack of empathy and cold calculation. 6. Comparison with Typical Teenage Behavior: Many teenagers face strict parenting and conflicts without resorting to murder. The comparison to typical teenage behavior overlooks the extreme nature of her actions. In conclusion, the evidence points to a profound lack of empathy in Cassandra's actions. The brutality, lack of remorse, and cold calculation suggest deeper psychological and emotional issues beyond the challenges of strict parenting and teenage rebellion. Thank you for considering my perspective.

@@angrydeer6011 The Fbi should send out a watchlist for your grandparents or caregivers :(

@@shitsand.giggles I'm not from US and I didn't write this comment there, so FBI is not able to catch me XD

​@@shitsand.giggles and you know where people are prosecuted by the authorities for expressing their opinions on the internet? In Saudi Arabia for example. Salma al-Shehab was given 34 yrs in prison when she flew there to visit her relatives, for writing the comment IN ANOTHER COUNTRY. Do you want to live in such authoritarian/totalitarian system?

I have watched the whole interrogation with Cassandra and I believe there are some crucial things that Stephanie failed to mention or analyze. Firstly, based on what Cassie said, her grandparents called the cops on her as a reaction to her misbehaving and that was one of the reasons for her anger towards them. When I was 16/17, my parents also didn't know how to cope with me. I was partying a lot, experimenting with drugs, and being extremely rude. However, there are some boundaries in disciplining teenagers that caregivers shouldn't cross no matter what (to be clear - I'm talking about involving cops to punish a teenager, not for reporting serious crimes like finding a human head in a son's closet). If they had called the police on me then, I'm sure that even now, after 8 years, I would still feel an enormous grudge against them, and our relations would be much more distant. I mean... This is very huge and should lead to different speculations about this family dynamics, but Stephanie decided to ignore this part and referred to her grandparents only in this black-and-white manner. There are two proverbs in the Polish language (my native) that could be translated to: "The hell is paved by good intentions" and "Overzealousness is worse than fascism". That basically means that when you do something to someone without their consent or against their will, thinking that it's for their own good, it's easy to do more harm and damage. Obviously, you can't completely avoid making these kinds of decisions when raising a child, but I believe Cassandra's grandparents took it too far. I don't deny that they loved their granddaughter with all their hearts. They wished her the best and most likely did everything with good intentions, but that doesn't contradict the fact they made some terrible mistakes. They simply wanted to keep her safe at home and isolate her from her new boyfriend. They probably implemented very strict rules about going out with friends that were a chasm between the lifestyles of her peers. A lot of people would agree that it is not healthy to treat a 17-year-old like that. Both neglecting and the extreme version of "helicopter parenting" may be considered abuse. We don't know, what their daily life looked like, but won't you agree that calling the police on a kid is pretty extreme? There is also one very telling thing from the interrogation. When Cassandra lied about not inviting people to the house, the reason for that was wanting to protect the anonymity of her best friend and not involving her in this case (she and her boyfriend were those two who went for a visit, who were introduced as drug dealers - maybe they were, idk). And when it came out, she was very upset, she looked like she was about to cry. One of the detectives even asked a question like: "You just casually talked about murdering your grandparents without showing any emotions, so what's going on with this girl that it made you so upset?" She replied, that she (a friend) was always there for her when she was going through the hardest time and that this is one of her closest people in her life. Think about it - what could be the LOGICAL selfish motive to lie about this particular topic, which couldn't have a real impact on the verdict? This small piece of the interview shows that she is capable of selective empathy. How does that fit your amateur psychiatric diagnosis that she is an ultimate psychopath/sociopath without the capability to feel such human emotions? This is a great occasion to realize that human psychology is much, much more complicated than you probably think. To sum up, when I look at this case, I don't see just an evil teen who murders her sweet and wholesome grandparents in cold blood. In the first place, I see a 17yrs girl who was traumatized not a long time before, who was in the storm of hormones because of having a new boyfriend and hadn't got a space to experience youth love, to make those first steps before engaging in something more mature - most likely, but not necessarily with another person (from the autopsy, I know that individuals who were in relatively serious romantic relationships as teenagers will have an easier time in this area as adults). It was made difficult for her at every step. At some point, something broke inside this already physically vulnerable girl who couldn't stand the demands of her caregivers anymore. She probably felt that they wanted to take away from her everything which brings her joy. I'm 100% sure that she didn't commit this crime if they gave her more freedom. Also, knowing that instead of escaping the state immediately they were hung out in this house with dead bodies upstairs and spent money without any plan of how to avoid being caught, it doesn't seem that Cassandra was in a clear state of mind. It sounds like she could be on some maniacal rush and was denying the reality. It may be related to dissociation or delusions. I encourage you to consider this issue also from a different perspective than Stephanie presented, and only then come to a conclusion.

good luck with the essay!

@@emdietrich-r4193 thanks💛🩵💙

Good luck with your essay mate.

@@Champion_of_Vlaakith :)💛🩵💙

goodluck!

She shouldn't be allowed out, or even to be among the other prisoners. Who knows what she'll do to them. A lifetime in solitary is perfect for her as a psychopath.

Thank you so much I was tired of watched this I just wanted to know if they went to jail