Teenager dead and another seriously hurt after shooting on farm

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Manchester Evening News

Manchester Evening News

Ай бұрын

A teenager has died and another seriously injured following a shooting at a farm in Whaley Bridge.
Police in Derbyshire were called to reports of a burglary at a property on Eccles Road, at around 1.20am on May 1.
A man, understood to be 19-years-old, was found dead at the scene having suffered fatal gunshot wounds. He was not the owner of the property
A second man - also in his teens - was discovered nearby having also been shot. He remains in hospital with serious injuries, and has been arrested on suspicion of aggravated burglary.
A man in his 50s has now been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder and remains in police custody with a fourth man, said to be in his 20s, arrested later that day on the A6.
He too remains in custody on suspicion of aggravated burglary.
Two scenes remain in place at two houses in Eccles Road and will remain in place for some time while investigations continue.
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@chelseahulmston9056
@chelseahulmston9056 Ай бұрын
Fuck around and found out. Robbing a farm is as stupid as can be, farmers are usually armed.
@orbytl2799
@orbytl2799 Ай бұрын
yeah whats even more stupid is they robbed him once and went back the next night
@pauljohnson4948
@pauljohnson4948 Ай бұрын
The farmer should not be arrested.
@ontheslide2339
@ontheslide2339 Ай бұрын
...got to get the facts I suppose... it looks very much like a home owner defending himself... but you never know...
@JimDuggan-tq2lv
@JimDuggan-tq2lv Ай бұрын
@@robzlo Really? Is there any evidence for this or are you local with insider knowledge?
@mikulasles5670
@mikulasles5670 Ай бұрын
right you are, if this was in USA and on someone's private property or in the home you have the right to defend yourself against a low-life despicable human being who rob your home, but this is in faken UK so you never know
@robzlo
@robzlo Ай бұрын
@@JimDuggan-tq2lv I'm a local with insider knowledge bud
@steve.k4735
@steve.k4735 Ай бұрын
Arrest is just a step in investigation if you KILL someone you 100% will be arrested that's very different to charged with a offence or convicted.
@headrushgaming2614
@headrushgaming2614 Ай бұрын
Whys the guy being arrested? 3 lads vs one geezer, yeah sounds like self defence to me.
@photoisca7386
@photoisca7386 Ай бұрын
The police got four arrests and a good chance of four convictions. It makes their monthly returns look good.
@steve.k4735
@steve.k4735 Ай бұрын
Arrest is just a step in investigation if you KILL someone you 100% will be arrested that's very different to charged with a offence or convicted
@Vespa123
@Vespa123 Ай бұрын
@@steve.k4735 copy and paste much? 🤦‍♂️
@steve.k4735
@steve.k4735 Ай бұрын
@@Vespa123 yeah still true though, 99% of people dont understand the difference between arrest / charge / conviction
@cry-rs7vv
@cry-rs7vv Ай бұрын
​@@photoisca7386 all they care about
@ramadamming8498
@ramadamming8498 Ай бұрын
"Arrested on suspicion of defending his property" ?
@mikulasles5670
@mikulasles5670 Ай бұрын
yeah that is in a shithole country dude
@leafy803
@leafy803 Ай бұрын
Difference between defending property and defending your safety or life. Or family members, if relevant. However the deceased thief was found in the home. If simply defending property then shooting is wrong. (I grew up on a farm, many thefts so understand the impact, still wrong). 💡Turn lights on downstairs/hall so know people are in and is home. Stay in home especially if family is, (them in locked bathroom), call police, you outside bathroom with weapon. (Or upstairs hall/near a lockable door). Keys leave downstairs.
@ramadamming8498
@ramadamming8498 Ай бұрын
@@leafy803 Yes
@steve.k4735
@steve.k4735 Ай бұрын
Arrest is just a step in investigation if you KILL someone you 100% will be arrested that's very different to charged with a offence or convicted
@ramadamming8498
@ramadamming8498 Ай бұрын
@@steve.k4735 My comment was very tongue in cheek. Of course gunning somone down unarmed any time is not a good course of action. Though farmers get targetted a lot. There is the famous Tony Martin case.
@prison1231
@prison1231 Ай бұрын
Prison is a joke in this country, and people defending their homes and family are the criminals
@Jordan23501
@Jordan23501 10 күн бұрын
Not to be a dick, but we make those freedom jokes for a reason....yes some gun control is good but going to prison for taking care of your family is just bullshit, whatever country you live in or were from
@JJLYOUTUBE
@JJLYOUTUBE Ай бұрын
If the Tories want to start maintaining seats for the next election, they should come out and support this farmer publicly. We need common sense in the country again
@At_the_races
@At_the_races Ай бұрын
The burglars were sent by the Labour Party.
@fpvDRE
@fpvDRE Ай бұрын
fat choice of any sense from any party tbh
@AJ-qn6gd
@AJ-qn6gd Ай бұрын
Common sense should be reclassified as a superpower !
@johnleonard2762
@johnleonard2762 Ай бұрын
They should have stayed at home , not robbing other people .
@AnkleMuncher
@AnkleMuncher Ай бұрын
Murder for protecting himself crazy country
@dvrn86
@dvrn86 Ай бұрын
3 burglars and they arrest the homeowner!?
@alanjohnson2698
@alanjohnson2698 Ай бұрын
Give it a week, CPS will quickly drop the charges... I reckon they realise if they charge him for it, the whole country will be up in arms
@robzlo
@robzlo Ай бұрын
​@alanjohnson2698 it was pretty meditated the farmer rob lomas knew they was coming
@steve.k4735
@steve.k4735 Ай бұрын
Arrest is just a step in investigation if you KILL someone you 100% will be arrested that's very different to charged with a offence or convicted
@happydace6991
@happydace6991 Ай бұрын
​@@robzlodid he moonlight as a clairvoyant ?
@robzlo
@robzlo Ай бұрын
@@happydace6991 no they come the night before aswell
@AWalkontheWildSideBlackpool
@AWalkontheWildSideBlackpool Ай бұрын
Shades of Tony Martin here.
@captricharddee3634
@captricharddee3634 Ай бұрын
I was just thinking the same.
@LittleCarol
@LittleCarol Ай бұрын
So was I.
@swaldron5558
@swaldron5558 Ай бұрын
Me too..
@leafy803
@leafy803 Ай бұрын
Deceased was found in home. Other case if remember correctly he shot them as running away, outside.
@SW-cu6bw
@SW-cu6bw Ай бұрын
Tony Martin should have been knighted for services to the community.
@realityuk2277
@realityuk2277 Ай бұрын
So the message is here people when being burgled , is to just sit back and enjoy ,DON’T EVEN THINK about defending everything you’ve ever worked for !! Just simple hand it over and await police to show up after they’ve already left … because if you did ever dare to defend your self from multiple attacks on your own land that are clearly their for criminal activity you’ll be arrested for MURDER . Castle law uk .. this man Could very well be completely within his rights by law .
@E-Gray
@E-Gray Ай бұрын
couldnt agree more lad, its horrendous the state of this country
@steve.k4735
@steve.k4735 Ай бұрын
Arrest is just a step in investigation if you KILL someone you 100% will be arrested that's very different to charged with a offence or convicted
@Vespa123
@Vespa123 Ай бұрын
@@steve.k4735 shut it, parrot
@Chris_Sheridan
@Chris_Sheridan Ай бұрын
@@steve.k4735 .. you're a troll!
@steve.k4735
@steve.k4735 Ай бұрын
@@Chris_Sheridan lol what to you a troll points out simple legal facts that Arrest and charge and conviction are different things, you kill somebody the police WILL arrest you, how the hell else do they investigate a violent death at gun point, by having a nice chat over tea and biscuits
@E-Gray
@E-Gray Ай бұрын
its horrific that the farmer would be charged with murder, he probably feared for his life, those scumbags who tried robbing him got what wasd coming to them! 19 years old, gotta wonder where the parents are and what they are teaching them.
@SolarPodcast
@SolarPodcast Ай бұрын
They are travellers
@messy3371
@messy3371 Ай бұрын
@@SolarPodcast no they aren't
@AI-Records24
@AI-Records24 Ай бұрын
@@messy3371how do you know
@messy3371
@messy3371 Ай бұрын
@@AI-Records24 because the lad who died has been named, he went to the local high school and played for the local football team.
@robzlo
@robzlo Ай бұрын
​@@SolarPodcastnope not gypsy's mate local lads after his weed grow
@steveo4991
@steveo4991 Ай бұрын
The only impact this has on communities is lowering the reoffending rate.
@keegan773
@keegan773 Ай бұрын
Your home is your castle.
@cleverclogs2244
@cleverclogs2244 Ай бұрын
When 3 ppl break into your property in the middle of the night, are you supposed to offer them coffee and help them load up your stuff?
@2027Judah
@2027Judah Ай бұрын
Well in Canada they're telling people now that if someone wants to steal your car just give em the keys
@lindsayrogers6690
@lindsayrogers6690 Ай бұрын
Is there a fund established to support the farmer?
@loki1066
@loki1066 Ай бұрын
Three men on your property in the middle of the night. Was he supposed to get them in an arm lock?
@Vibranttorch
@Vibranttorch Ай бұрын
If your born & bred in the uk then It’s common knowledge that you leave farmers well alone. These clowns found out the hard way, #freethefarmer.
@johnleonard2762
@johnleonard2762 Ай бұрын
Do you remember the injustice of the Wisbech farmer ?
@BYTltd
@BYTltd Ай бұрын
Well thats what happens when you BREAK INTO SOMEBODYS FUCKING HOUSE state of this country is a joke
@flipflopfrog602
@flipflopfrog602 Ай бұрын
He was protecting his property surely???
@CheesusTheRatJesus
@CheesusTheRatJesus Ай бұрын
You see this country makes me sick you defend yourself and your property and you get arrested for it 🤬
@steve.k4735
@steve.k4735 Ай бұрын
Arrest is just a step in investigation if you KILL someone you 100% will be arrested that's very different to charged with a offence or convicted
@Chris_Sheridan
@Chris_Sheridan Ай бұрын
@@steve.k4735 .. get a life.
@Jesulewami6820
@Jesulewami6820 Ай бұрын
Why is d syatem failing everyone? So it is a crime to kill robbers invading your farm😮. This is madness
@steve.k4735
@steve.k4735 Ай бұрын
Arrest is just a step in investigation if you KILL someone you 100% will be arrested that's very different to charged with a offence or convicted
@PapaDan88
@PapaDan88 Ай бұрын
Have they not watched Hot Fuzz? They would’ve known that farmers and their mums have guns
@fpvDRE
@fpvDRE Ай бұрын
lesson learnt dont fk with farmers end of
@kevinturner3997
@kevinturner3997 Ай бұрын
If the cops did their job, these things wouldn't happen.
@EileenTervit
@EileenTervit Ай бұрын
Author of his own destiny. Moral of the story don’t go breaking into peoples houses.
@imperatorvespasian3125
@imperatorvespasian3125 Ай бұрын
one mistake, he called the governments ideological enforcers
@chrisblyth6716
@chrisblyth6716 Ай бұрын
You can't rely on the police to protect you or your property but you can bet they'll be there and throw the book at you when you protect yourself and property.This happened many years ago to a farmer in Norfolk who was protecting himself and his property from 2 young men who entered his house. One was shot dead the other wounded.
@Chris_Sheridan
@Chris_Sheridan Ай бұрын
At 1:20am how can a property owner be arrested for defending himself against 4 younger attackers who were intent on breaking in to steal and probably kill or injure the farm owner?? .. do the police expect the farmer to invite them in for tea?
@leeelmo7341
@leeelmo7341 Ай бұрын
I reckon there's a moral to this story..
@robzlo
@robzlo Ай бұрын
Yeah don't steal weed grows
@matthewday2277
@matthewday2277 Ай бұрын
Imagine arresting someone for defending their livelihood pricks
@LornaThomas-wx5tn
@LornaThomas-wx5tn Ай бұрын
The farmer is in custody and the remaining burglars are released on bail!!!OMG!!!!!!
@edwardhaggarty365
@edwardhaggarty365 Ай бұрын
Times are strange. 😢
@NecessaryDramaAddictionNDA
@NecessaryDramaAddictionNDA Ай бұрын
No self defence allowed in the uk….ridiculous
@garyayres4404
@garyayres4404 Ай бұрын
But were they not out Thieving- Tisc.
@chrishus35
@chrishus35 Ай бұрын
You got the right to protect your property and your life
@20Alanpartridge
@20Alanpartridge Ай бұрын
All media in the UK will go into overdrive with the narrative that all the mainstream public see this a enormously concerning in terms of 'the poor boys' getting hurt/killed. That their actions were\ are no issue, just the 'disproportionate' harm that came to them is all that matters. That's not what people think, as shows on here, and most everywhere else !
@orbytl2799
@orbytl2799 Ай бұрын
they robbed him the night before when he was out of town and they knew he was out of town and took a large sum of cash, but he had seen it on his cctv and reported it to the police and returned to the property but these numptys obviously were not aware of that and decided to go back the next night but he was waiting at the top of the stairs with a shotty and the first guy to get to the top of the stairs had his head blown off
@johnd6325
@johnd6325 Ай бұрын
Police commisioner stand down for your lack of action on burglary has caused this incident.
@anthonyabbbott4016
@anthonyabbbott4016 Ай бұрын
Shit really really happens when you shit around.
@prismonthethehorizon5793
@prismonthethehorizon5793 Ай бұрын
The farmer was protecting himself and his property. The teens should not have been dirty theifs! Those teenagers would not have thought twice to harm the farmer, this is wrong it shouldn't be considered a murder rather a act of self protection!
@beeswax888
@beeswax888 Ай бұрын
Tony Martin enters the chat!
@budgetcollectables2810
@budgetcollectables2810 Ай бұрын
100% Deserved I've had this happen twice to me in 2021 but thankfully my dogs scared them off, police didn't show up at all. All this tells me and other brits is that its better to not inform the police and to "deal with it" ourselves Also a 19 year old is an Adult
@joecampbell6486
@joecampbell6486 Ай бұрын
clearly after the guns.
@SketchyRob
@SketchyRob Ай бұрын
I don't think there is much worth us inporting from the USA but the government should seriously consider bringing in Castle Laws like they have over in the USA.
@Jordan23501
@Jordan23501 10 күн бұрын
All i needed to hear was the accent. Somebody is going to jail for shooting someone who was a criminal.
@derekgoodwin4021
@derekgoodwin4021 Ай бұрын
Self defence
@adriandreghorn8533
@adriandreghorn8533 Ай бұрын
So he was protecting his family from people he didn't know and now arrested for it .ok, turn the table. Imagine the person shot having someone invading their home what would they do protect his family at all cost .
@user-cl7uc1un7f
@user-cl7uc1un7f Ай бұрын
So you can’t even defended your own property
@steve.k4735
@steve.k4735 Ай бұрын
Arrest is just a step in investigation if you KILL someone you 100% will be arrested that's very different to charged with a offence or convicted
@fruitless782
@fruitless782 Ай бұрын
People are jumping to conclusions calling the incident a robbery.maybe he was a callboy demanding his dues.lets wait for doctor and police report.
@Scitch-et4vk
@Scitch-et4vk Ай бұрын
Multiculturalism
@PhilipBaker-sf4yv
@PhilipBaker-sf4yv Ай бұрын
Diversity is our strength so they keep telling us
@robzlo
@robzlo Ай бұрын
They were all white local lads not many round here dude
@steveo4991
@steveo4991 Ай бұрын
@@robzlo Not yet*
@robzlo
@robzlo Ай бұрын
@@steveo4991 yup were lucky here very homogeneous 😇
@jimbrown7196
@jimbrown7196 Ай бұрын
​@@robzloThe ratio just went up by one.
@pauldirac808
@pauldirac808 Ай бұрын
Ha Ha play silly games .
@humantruckjack423
@humantruckjack423 Ай бұрын
@#$% the UK its a joke so i moved to USA.
@scottandrewhorne4655
@scottandrewhorne4655 Ай бұрын
God Rest Their Soul Amen XXXXXXXX Home To Heaven Amen XXXXXXXX With Our Ever Growing Ever Loveing Heavenly Family Amen XXXXXXXX
@gusdogbrownlab435
@gusdogbrownlab435 Ай бұрын
I would be very interested in meeting the jury of people who would convict him
@zeitgeist8421
@zeitgeist8421 Ай бұрын
Why such evil!!!!!!
@peterigrenyi9176
@peterigrenyi9176 Ай бұрын
I know. These teens nowadays can't behave can they?!
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