Tekken 7 Alisa - How to poke for whiff creation (with match examples)

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Alisa is a character that excels at creating whiffs with her movement and punishing them. In this guide, we take a look at the tools Alisa has for whiff creation.
This guide was made in collaboration with Sonicfreak. Check out his channel at / sonicfreak1111
Another big thank you goes to 4ntagonist for the experienced gameplan advice with Alisa.
Watch the full matches here:
Chanel v Jimmy J Tran (Bryan) • Chanel (Alisa) Vs Jimm...
Chanel v Awais Honey (Akuma) • Video
Chanel v JDCR (Armour King) • Chanel (Alisa) Vs JDCR...
Chanel v Saint (Jack-7) • Chanel (Julia, Alisa) ...
Music:
Channel intro: Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time - Gerudo Valley
Intro: Final Fantasy V - Fate in haze
Transitions: Final Fantasy V - Ahead on our way
Section 1: Final Fantasy V - Battle with Gilgamesh
Section 2: Final Fantasy VI - Decisive battle
Outro: Final Fantasy V - The silent beyond
0:00 Intro
0:45 How to create whiffs
4:40 Whiff creation moves
9:15 Match examples

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@mylinuxstruggle5495 2 жыл бұрын

Been playing Alisa since release I would say I'm an advanced player going in tournaments leaving pools. This is hands down one of the best videos on Alisa I have seen. I especially liked the b+1 after not playing Alisa since season 2 this was a breath of fresh air. I realized I don't use b+1 enough somehow looking at this video.

@Fictionarious 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the best Alisa tutorial I've seen, certainly for its length. Straight and to the point; good stuff

@ics3217 2 жыл бұрын

This video is the rare combination of very useful info and very entertaining presentation that just puts a smile on your face. It doesn’t hurt that I’m a huge fan of old school 16-bit rpgs and their great music :-) Bravo!!

@Rakuzou 2 жыл бұрын

Last time I watched this video I was Vindicator on alisa, now im Divine Ruler. THANK YOU

@TrungNguyen-ic2jw Жыл бұрын

Every time I lost a match, I came back and rewatch this tutorial. This tutorial has changed me 😆

@carpet_rug07 3 жыл бұрын

This is criminally underviewed, Itss so gooodd I can't think of a reason why anyone would ever dislike this

@lNe11yl Жыл бұрын

that's the best Alisa short guide you can imagine

@dreday6320 3 жыл бұрын

The game gods answered my prayers. I've been looking for a video like this for the longest for Alisa. This explains her style in complete depth. Now I understand why her poke dmg is so low

@ayyanarif1880 2 жыл бұрын

I used to be an alisa noob but now ill get better this is a great video

@HairyLoco 8 ай бұрын

Hands down the most essential guide I've found to advance my Alisa gameplan. Where other guides briefly mention Alisa's evasiveness and movement, this is the first one I've seen that properly explains HOW and WHY it works. Amazing job, thank you very much for this. ❤

@realanzco 7 ай бұрын

I always come back here and relearn this video whenever I get tilted. This video is the best! Also for intermediate Alisa players going into pro.

@Mega_NK 2 жыл бұрын

As a noob trying to get into tekken, this really helped me understand how to better play alisa. Thanks!

@LainTK 2 жыл бұрын

You are helping me making a new design for my new Alisa on 2022 meanwhile im on a break, very relaxed and enjoyable video, thank you so much for reminding me who is Alisa. Lain TK.

@gajimaru2570 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Lain, your matches are always an inspiration to me. Alisa is difficult to play in s4 but I feel she has more potential like maximising backturned punishes after sidewalking. Let's keep learning

@tidus92forever 2 жыл бұрын

I love you, man. Your tutorials, your choice of music, your examples, you are a gem for the tekken community. I thank you so much for your work. :)

@RJS7YL3 Жыл бұрын

Excellent guide man its very rare to find a tutorial like this clean and detailed information thanks for sharing, make more like this

@Homayun Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this tutorial. You're legit one of the most underrated TEKKEN KZfaqrs out there. Huge respect to you for the effort you put into editing this 👏

@DestinyHeroDasher 11 ай бұрын

Excellent vid; super useful info, concise, well-presented and the example clips at the end were a great inclusion 👍

@larjudetablando7565 2 жыл бұрын

This is probably the best tutorial not just for Alisa but for teaching the fundamentals of Tekken as well. The fundamentals of high level play which is poking, not just spamming.

@sarcastiquebro882 7 ай бұрын

This is very informative, and well-made! I've been thinking of trying out Alisa because movement is one of her core strengths, of which the player has to utilize everything in their power to maximize their chances of winning with Alisa. That includes whiff creation, punishing, and sidestepping. And what's more important, is that movement is a transferrable skill.

@walnut6898 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for making this video ! this was very helpful for me as a new player maining alisa to know how to effectively use her kit. Hope you keep making them, I'll be a new follower from now on.

@99nadi 7 ай бұрын

The best video I've found on this by far. Thank you so much for being so thorough! Going to revisit it again and take notes hehe

@lewisiu 3 жыл бұрын

im new to this game and this is the best beginner friendly tutorial so far why arent this getting more views

@MrKaiser891 2 жыл бұрын

Alisa has been my main since Tekken 6, i've learned all this by my personal experience and watching strong players playing her, this video is gold, thanks for helping all the new alisa players!

@atlante4368 2 жыл бұрын

This tutorial is better than the overly long ones over there. I was actually playing Alisa right then and watching it during the loading screens. Excellent material.

@gajimaru2570 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@Kenzoah Жыл бұрын

Clearly I didn’t understand how her neutral works, this helps a lot. Thanks for the video

@instantnoodle80 Жыл бұрын

such a great video not just mopves but tactics and more. thank you so much!

@HobbesKarate 2 жыл бұрын

The quality of this video is outstanding

@j-rog4284 2 жыл бұрын

As a new alisa player this is just what I needed. This is such an amazing video. It’s well put together, well explained, and gives out valuable information. You just earned a sub✌️

@adsylvium5736 2 жыл бұрын

The quality of the video is astounding!

@Star-Proxima Жыл бұрын

AMAZING TEKKEN CRASH COURSE 😳 I didn't know I needed this until I saw this in general today. Big thank you to YOU for the time and effort you put into making a quality video that is FUN and clear and concise. That's new for an intro. And I like the ballerina animations and transitions haha, it's cute. 😃 I know it takes a long time to make these videos, so it's appreciated, truly. Keep it up 😄👍

@man9729 Жыл бұрын

Omg I love your tutorial so much. Can't help laughing everytime I heard that cute sound and saw that back/ss arrow on the examples section. Thanks, I think I have pretty much good ideas and confidence in rank match. Can't get pass emperor rank, always down and up. Stuck. Hope to see more Alisa videos man! Thank you.

@memODBnem 3 жыл бұрын

Very helpful and informative, thanks a lot mate 👍🏼

@afficionado6018 2 жыл бұрын

Incredibly well made video which i Will be coming back to Very frequently, great job.

@TKEsharib Жыл бұрын

This Is the best guide I've ever seen with a true Alisa knowledge. You are great bro 🔥

@ted7799 Жыл бұрын

Great video and great examples! Thanks!

@toavnwub 2 жыл бұрын

you are killing it, thank you for this

@MasterVili 2 жыл бұрын

As an eternal Alisa main i'd say this is a fantastic guide for high level play!

@paindee9308 Жыл бұрын

thanks for the tutorial, the backdash whistle is very cute

@Razielfever 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for giving us a nice pro direction on making our opponent whiff. What I wanted to note was that after db+3 if you are in a close range(or with your back in the wall) you can do db+1+2(which will be a throw since you're in FC ) to catch people off guard.Nobody expects a throw while crouching and that's the reason I think that db+3 has the most flexibility of all the bait moves Alisa has.

@gajimaru2570 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. But you should also think beyond that 45 dmg from the throw to see how they could answer this sequence. Especially if the opponent is not confident with throw breaking they could do any of these to launch the crouching throw: sidestep either way, backdash (need some timing and to release the last b), duck, high crush with hopkick or snake edge, backsway like Dragunov qcb+2, or a 12 frame CH move like Alisa 2,3,3, King b+1 or Leroy b+1+2 (needs to be exactly 12 frames, 11F magic 4s will not CH). That's a lot of options so you need matchup knowledge and to observe your opponent's habits to be ready with an answer. For example if they play Claudio and hopkick after your db+3, you can SSR after db+3 instead of throwing to avoid the hopkick and launch, but you cannot SSL it. Breaking down your offence from the opponent's point of view is one of the things that makes Tekken so fun for me

@Razielfever 2 жыл бұрын

@@gajimaru2570 So much information to process lool. Hopekicks are certainly an issue but flexibility does exist and some of these are little niche although when you discuss about creating whiff punishment opportunities every discussion is somewhat of a "niche discussion" xD

@CaptainYesz 2 жыл бұрын

High quality! Thanks!

@TheGamer1919 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome stuff man!

@MaskedGuyCh Жыл бұрын

Incredibly useful video and very well-articulated. As an Alisa player I'm so thankful for this. Also, I loved the Final Fantasy V BGMs and sound effects! (one of my fav games) Here's a sub while I'm here, you've earned it.

@frederickfajardo6807 3 жыл бұрын

great content sir, keep it up! 🎉

@user-gg2so3eb9w Жыл бұрын

thank you, very informative 🧠

@bondrewddd5076 9 ай бұрын

still the best alisa guide video

@thatoneguy9756 7 ай бұрын

Life changing tutorial thank you

@user-bq9lw5ku2p Жыл бұрын

Such a good tutorial music are on point too

@LEGENDFURY 2 жыл бұрын

Good info about Alisa Thanks dear

@buffybans4642 3 жыл бұрын

I think you love Finalfantasy series

@xHeyo27DKS 2 жыл бұрын

I want to start playining and learn Tekken with Alisa, this video Is awesome. Share more with US ❤️

@gajimaru2570 2 жыл бұрын

What a genuine and beautiful comment. Thank you

@wann9636 2 жыл бұрын

T hank sifu. this really help me understand Alisa more.

@cesaregiglio2881 Жыл бұрын

This video is soo good even im not an alisa player, they're great the combos too

@natskyu635 2 жыл бұрын

Damn this is so good! Thank you so much for this!

@spacemountain5624 2 жыл бұрын

Nice music selection

@ezekielyoingco7683 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing and I Like you background music of Final Fantasy xD love it

@owusu-ansahrex7671 2 жыл бұрын

Good job, wish I saw this earlier

@Strash_ 9 ай бұрын

Wait a second....I know you! ^^ Holymoly i had no idea you had an youtube...Instant easy subscribe ^^ This is super lucky find for me! Ive been thinking of learning how to play alisa myself and man this video helps an ton! Thank you!

@Luigi-jy7wq Жыл бұрын

this is so useful ty and also im 1000th like

@takanuvabosconovitch6072 3 жыл бұрын

great vid

@jico3547 9 ай бұрын

Came for the tutorial, stayed for the music ❤

@UncleK4947 2 жыл бұрын

deserves more attention

@stinkycade6306 3 жыл бұрын

Omg love this video, so pleasant to watch plus the sound effects hahahaha I couldn’t stop laughing, great video

@bulletpunchh5549 3 жыл бұрын

very nice video, thanks a lot!!!

@KISSSHOT_IS_HOT Жыл бұрын

Большое спасибо за гайд, ты красавчик!

@datboyla7 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing video! I'm currently in the red ranks with Alisa. Implementing the info from this video with my current knowledge of her, hopefully I'll be in the blue ranks soon 💙 😉 😎

@gajimaru2570 2 жыл бұрын

Do it!

@SheDoesntCareLOL 2 жыл бұрын

I'm an Alisa main player too and this tutorial definitely added more knowledge to my gameplay. 🧚🏻‍♀️ #Ikimasu!

@Star-Proxima Жыл бұрын

Omg same!!! Its helped so much! Along with the new F1+2 guide!

@Wanted1Sama 7 ай бұрын

Amazing video! upload more like this!

@gajimaru2570 7 ай бұрын

I will, if Tekken 8 is fun

@herry74 7 ай бұрын

instantly subscribe, good tutorial

@caffeholictj1708 2 жыл бұрын

Im really thankful that this video came out of my recommended vids. Alisa is my second main aside from Lars. This is truly a masterpiece and very helpful for someone like me who plays Alisa very defensively. I like it 😊😎👍

@gajimaru2570 2 жыл бұрын

Thank god there are still defensive players in this game

@caffeholictj1708 2 жыл бұрын

@@gajimaru2570 I sometimes play aggressively with Lars and Alisa depending on my opponent's gameplay.

@gajimaru2570 2 жыл бұрын

Yes there is no winner in a battle between metapods.

@wann9636 2 жыл бұрын

this solve my question why alisa ofensive is so slow and low dmg

@Rick-rl9qq 7 ай бұрын

just found this video. amazing content m'dude, do you have any combo guides for her?

@jecrisdignaran1617 2 жыл бұрын

thanks, I always do sidestep with most of this moves not knowing I can just backdash

@odairmorales2450 3 жыл бұрын

Trabajo increíble

@Wanted1Sama 9 ай бұрын

Cool!

@carlolaurie1796 2 жыл бұрын

I've actually been playing her wrong this whole time. After Db+3 I would always backdash for safety, b1 I don't even do a lot, f2 I only use to go into DES. Sidestep and her movement I would use a lot just for whiffing. I've watched chanel, and would think how he gets it right. I thought of what I was dling wrong then I saw this, I got goosebumps. Thanks so much man you inspired me #TeamArisa

@gajimaru2570 2 жыл бұрын

Don't be too hard on yourself, no such thing in a game as playing wrong. We are all trying to optimise our gameplans. Looking forward to how you improve :)

@carlolaurie1796 2 жыл бұрын

@@gajimaru2570 thanks man... I hope really your channel grows and grows. Keep doing what you do man

@artguy7992 Жыл бұрын

tips: characters like kazumi and claudio are effective against alisa, for kazumi she can use her b2 after blocking alisa b1 and it shuts down alisa ss , backdash and also abares ,same with claudio b1 , but loves like kuni b2 , lili f3 doesnt work they will whiff if alisa backdash

@gajimaru2570 Жыл бұрын

Yes, in matchups where the opponent has a 15F mid homing move Alisa cannot use b+1 in the usual way. Here we have to mostly hold it after b+1 on block and only use it for the FC mix on hit. However other offence starters like f+2 and db+3 do the trick. That's a difference between Alisa and characters with a generic df+1 - she uses different moves for different matchups.

@Amir-jn5mo Жыл бұрын

Yo what song are you using for the video. It slaps. Also thank you for the guide. Recently fell in love with Alisa but have no clue where to start and this is a wonderful guide

@gajimaru2570 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Added the tracks to the description. For learning I recommend the Alisa discord discord.gg/s83mVcT Have fun!

@liofrancky1 2 жыл бұрын

Awsome

@fusionmo7254 3 жыл бұрын

As someone who started playing Tekken early this year and choosing Alisa as my first main ever, this helps out so much. Thank you for contributing to the community. Is Alisa your main?

@gajimaru2570 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I main Alisa and play some others for fun. To learn more about her consider joining the Alisa discord discord.gg/s83mVcT

@luhkun 2 жыл бұрын

@@gajimaru2570 I'm kinda late for this, but thank you for your content! It is straight to the point and very informative. I'm glad that I found you!

@thiosatrio3811 7 ай бұрын

Damn i hope there's a tutorial for Lili that's as detailed as this video 😢

@lil_Amatsu 2 жыл бұрын

Yo holy shit this video was so good

@funda.mental 2 жыл бұрын

Incredible video! Thank you so much!

@chainsalt8041 3 жыл бұрын

Worth noting that d1,f will leave u in a standing state

@usamaimran1516 2 жыл бұрын

Being a nina main, its very hard to play against alisa due to her movement .. This pretty much explains why

@kathyxo 2 жыл бұрын

This video is amazing and has improved my alisa very much. I did have a question though: what is alisas best back turn combo? Like if she happens to step you all the way around to the opponents back, what is the best but also most consistent combo to use? I appreciate it. 🥰

@gajimaru2570 2 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear that! The two highest damage backturn punishers are ws1,2,3 into full launch (f2 or b1 route) and db2,2 into guaranteed b4,4 DBT 2,1 (on smalls and Bob SBT 1,2,1). They both do 80-100 dmg but can be tricky to use unless you know the situation, as ws1,2,3 requires you to step then crouch, and db2,2 is a bit finicky with pushback, you need to sometimes do it instantly and sometimes delay the second hit for the b4 to connect. Ws1,2,3 is good for example when you SSR the third hit of Anna uf1,3,3+4 or duck under an Akuma jump, db2,2 is good for example for punishing King springkick. But for a quick BT punish in a hectic situation I prefer 2,3,3 (knockdown / wall stun) or, if the opponent doesn't know, 1,2,2#. This one becomes a 10F launcher if they try to block, they need to jump or interrupt with a BT move to avoid it. That's already four choices but hope it helps :)

@kathyxo 2 жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness. You are so kind to have written all that for me. Thank you so much. 😭😭😭💘💘💘💘

@odydeukaleionas7281 2 жыл бұрын

@@gajimaru2570 DO WE HAVE A VIDEO OF THIS COMBO?ON YOUTYBE?

@gajimaru2570 2 жыл бұрын

Off axis and backturned combos at the end of my basic combo guide kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mM5of9hi3JvWaGg.htmlm31s

@odydeukaleionas7281 2 жыл бұрын

@@gajimaru2570 WOW..THANKS FOR YOUR SO FAST REPLAY..!!!I BECOME A subscribeR to your channel

@odydeukaleionas7281 2 жыл бұрын

Hi again.. Can you tell me what setting(in practice) I must change in order to make practice to whiffs???

@gajimaru2570 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the late response! That's a very good question. What I normally do set the bot do Alisa moves like db+3 into backdash or f+2 into sidestep left or right, and myself pick the opponent's character and try to hit Alisa with their key moves. For example if you pick Julia you want to see about her f,f+1 / df+3 / d,df+1 / uf+4,3 and other important moves which ones Alisa can backdash, step left or right, or walk left or right. That should give you an idea of what is best for the matchup at close range, pushback moves or sidestep moves!

@Merumya 2 жыл бұрын

very nice stuff. You dont happen to have a tutorial/info how to properly combo after a low parry? Been working on them lately against some mishimas and im able to pull them off - but cant do anything with it, except shock my opponent :D

@gajimaru2570 2 жыл бұрын

You can use any of the usual combo routes after low parrying: f+2 df+1,1 d+4,1+2 S! d+3,1 (easiest to perform, easy to convert for wall carry, lower damage), b+1 WS+1,2,3 4 S! microdash d+3,1 (easy to perform, harder to convert, good damage), WS+1,2,3 d+4,1+2 S! d+3,1 (staple, easy to convert, good damage). But if you are reading Mishima hellsweeps you should block and launch with WS+2. I'll work on combo tutorials soon

@Merumya 2 жыл бұрын

@@gajimaru2570 thanks! Sounds great. Im looking forward to it, especially the combos the game doesnt teach you.

@yuxi_dota2yuxi715 2 жыл бұрын

How did u do that reset combos, is it range specific? Cuz i cant seem to get it right

@gajimaru2570 2 жыл бұрын

It's range specific, you have to screw with the 5th aerial hit so ws1,2,3 b2,4 or b1 ws1,2 b2,4 etc then SBT 3 hits at tip range and combos into ws1,2,3 1 wr2. Opponent has to stay down, it won't pick up if they tech or back roll, so this kind of stuff is good for round enders when they think they have the life lead to lie on the ground and play time

@eggcellentegg2817 4 ай бұрын

Does this still work in TEKKEN 8?

@Filmproplus 2 жыл бұрын

but its a 15 frame setup. needs a bit spacing to it

@reignandbongao9497 Жыл бұрын

I love starting my offense with 1 jab to db 3. in my lower ranks nobody blocks or low parry it. It makes opening up so much easier than before. probably gonna stop using it too much or it could be bad habit in higher ranks

@gajimaru2570 Жыл бұрын

It's good. You can create a very simple RPS from jab on block. db+3 beats jab and sidestep but loses to mids and hopkicks. 4 launches mids, floats hopkicks and beats sidestep, so now they have to either jab or duck (or 11F magic 4 if they have one). b+1 beats ducking, magic 4, floats jumping moves but loses to jab or sidestep. When you don't want to take any risks you can just jab into sidestep block or dash block. If the opponent is very good you can always add riskier options to break their defence

@denzelsugayan432 Жыл бұрын

that last match tho lol

@charlieribbit8253 Жыл бұрын

Who's another character that's good at creating whiffs similar playstyle?

@gajimaru2570 Жыл бұрын

Many characters like Lili, Zafina, Jack, Armour King, Xiaoyu, Miguel, Eddy. The two other main damage sources besides whiffs are counterhits and mixups. These characters are all good at whiff creation and have different strengths in the other two departments

@Tko_Seven Жыл бұрын

So 10:04 is sidestep, not a short sidewalk? Just to confirm, command wise it one short up input, not two up input?

@gajimaru2570 Жыл бұрын

It's a sidewalk, and a very precise one at that. Need to know the best movement patterns for each matchup to level up after this guide

@Tko_Seven Жыл бұрын

@@gajimaru2570 so the command u used is up, up. Right?

@gajimaru2570 Жыл бұрын

Yes

@Tko_Seven Жыл бұрын

@@gajimaru2570 I just came back from trying it. Got my butt kicked bad.. LOL. With Alisa using fb then pressuring them only got me to Fujin. But the punishing whiff with precise movement is very hard.

@MrNotSoSure 5 ай бұрын

Make one for Tekken 8

@dankquan743 Ай бұрын

itd be the same video, everything here still applies

@bunnygodx 4 ай бұрын

this video is amaizng hahaha

@GladRichGirl Жыл бұрын

I hate when people call Alisa cheese, this is exactly how I try to play even though my applications are dogshit. You can just tell this is good fundamentals and control of a true mixup game.