I love how every Lee player is so happy about the heat burst changes for ws2,3, but completely disregard that he got hella nerfed to compensate for a buff that shouldn't ever be labeled as a buff, it was 100% a bug since launch and they masked it as a buff to justify all the bullshit nerfs they gave him. In the same patch they buff characters like King. These devs are a fucking joke.

In a way, we Lee mains are used to struggle, so i feel like we're back to working harder. Buckle up guys !

Again I am asking bandai namco to let gloves be a separate customization slot

dev probably got bodied by lee and this is the payback

Lee just straight up got nerfed, all the so called "buffs" are just issues that needed fixing. They knew the heat system was getting nerfed but calling these patches buffs in the notes is BS

Idk why they got rid of Lee’s mid armor crush from tekken 7

This and his df1 nerf made me so sad, i miss old Lee 😢

The Devs infinite beef with Lee is pretty insane

Seems like they kinda want Lee to be alright at getting to apply a light poke mix but dont want him to be able to keep applying the same pressure easily. I guess because of b33 they didnt want df1 to be able to beat jabs and therefore cover more options than the average fast mid check? Idk why they changed it now then and not like during early development but alright...maybe they really do listen to TMM for balancing ideas hahaha he was just whining about b33 mix from Lee players.

Fixed ws23 but lost key tracking, pressuring, and keep out tools it seems. Tracking was already worse than it was in early t7 imo. Smh. Meanwhile king’s a mishima now 😂

This proves that Lee is just made to be low tier, like Q in street fighter. Us Lee mains were born to suffer

i think we’ll still be able to win, the ws2,3 bugfix is huge but it’s a lot harder to pull off a win now considering how much other characters got buffed

I was waiting for Lee ws2,3 into heat to get fixed before my GoD run and done the run and got it last night. I noticed all those heat nerfs and df1 . Tracking is so annoying and his heatdash starters aren’t easy whiff punishes also. I wish he had a fast mid tracking move, 1+2 is sluggish and can get interrupted and his other tracking moves are highs

just got into Lee to i been in the lab for weeks still gon play tho

Lee mains gotta learn from kaz mains, cry and yap till you get buffs Goddamn they killed out boi

We just lost some 10 damage from those but we can still pack a punch. moves to heat dash - ub3 or db3+4 is consistent. Will prolly try Blazing Kick as you recommended. Also, have you tried his bread and butter wall combos? I feel it must be precise this time .

soooo... why does Pauls df2 avoid highs still then?

Tbh I prefer being able to punish my opponent with 4,4:4 into u4 than getting the guaranteed 3,4

With the system mechanics changes isn't lee inherently buffed since he's a character based around movement and homing throws massively limited his pressure game? Same with heat bursy

Was anyone really complaining about Lee?

they only needed to change victor's and azucena's high power crush because you can't even jab those a lot of the time. and lee already struggles at breaking turtles so the opportunies he does get should be rewarding with heat dash. so unnecessary to nerf that

Can still win with lee, it'll be harder than before but he's by no means a bad character now, and losing that much damage from a i13 punish is fair as it was far too much. Lee is fine.

Oh man, no love for Lee 😭

the d3 barely ever tracked, I barely feel a difference while playing

he wasn't dead before?

Damn GM they must not want you to enjoy this game at all. You already felt the game was boring, but now this just killed any joy you cam get from the game. This is why i hate modern fighting games, always just patching sruff at random and cant five you a complete product at release

I barely ever used raw heat burst outside of combo, so I don't really care about that. I'm sad about the heat dash >HMS u4, because it was cool, strong, and fun to use, and worked really well with parry df4,4 (I'm not gonna say I invented that, but I never saw anybody else use it). WS2,3 > heat burst being consistent is super strong, you duck a high twice (or even once), and you kill them, but it was basically a bug that it whiffed, honestly. Call me an eLeetist, but even if this makes him stronger overall, I'd rather have the old heat stuff back. I didn't play enough of the new patch yet, but I hope at least other characters lost as much from heat dash, so the system nerf didn't just hit us.

That sucks.

And I just picked him up🤦‍♂️

Are there not new routes?

Balance patches based on fools not wanting to learn the match ups don't sound like balancing to me

Lee always get the bad end

HM 4 doesn’t high crush anymore either so u can mid check it . Df1 doesn’t mid check as good anymore also . He most definitely got nerfed bad.

Hwoarang mains welcome you with open arms, welcome to nerf hell brother, we lost to the noobs of reddit

After the patch it has been harder to win yes, I’m just a Shinryu Lee but it seems the patch did more harm than good to Lee.

Well tbh those mini heat dash combo aren’t that strong for losing all heat bar anyways, traded with more consistant ws2,3 is pretty solid I guess.

Man Lee is way to strong now with the ws2,3 "buff". They need to buff king (again) next patch.

Notice how GM always got some jobber/midcard wrestler name on his profile 😂 Val Venis, Mark Jindrak! Gotta do Steve Blackman next

They made him so weak this patch 🤦🏿

Lee for me is a low tier character, it's even harder than before to win. Now even more than before we are absolutely not rewarded given the difficulty of the character. The new defense mechanics don't suit me, I'm a very offensive Lee player.

lol he’s fine

cry more

Nerf him more it is too easy.

I think he is still A+ tier.

Like I said he was busted now. Let's play some Tekken 👏👏