Thats literally the thought process i had that made me decide to buy tekken 😂 ITS SO COOL! I wanna get better at it lol and be like itadori lmao

But the tekken 8 pewgf is missing that electric crackling and screen shake like tekken 7 which sounds much more satisfying if you land it

​@@anandasuriamoorthy6497 True!, that electric sound are so satisfying in Tekken 7 sadly they remove the sfx from electric into cloudy storm sfx

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@@anandasuriamoorthy6497 I've downloaded a mod to add the crackling t7 sfx back

You can do this with a controller as in a gamepad? You must be a god.

@walmartian422 The problem is as FG players we are so used to push buttons in sequential order when the (P)EWGF demands same frame button pushing, it throws you off. Try to input it as clean and relaxed as possible, one tip that helped me a lot on pad was to hold it with the right hand a bit tighter so your left thumb won't tense up when executing. Once you can do that on the regular, try to speed up the gap between the F and neutral, so you can get used to push DF + 2 together after that. After you get electrics often, skip the D input, you'll know if you got a Perfect from simply looking at your command history like in the video. Lemme know if it helps.

@@walmartian422it comes out when I’m not trying when I try too hard it doesn’t come out

@@Nightmaroid IDK i don't use pad and I can barely do it on a stick. I haven't practiced it enough to even do it in a real match either the execution demand is so high probably the hardest thing to do in the game. My command history is a little different though I feel like the omen style input is very inconsistent with a stick so usually I'm just going for forward, down, down forward with no neutral input and the history in game has to say forward(4-5), down(1), and down forward(whatever). That's how I've been getting it and the new command history in T8 is so helpful because now it's finally showing frames.

@@walmartian422 stick is the hardest controller to EWGF with tho. Do you have Discord bruh?

No problem sir, glad it helped :)

Same, bro

Thank you very much!

This has been the single most helpful tip I have gotten for doing this. You helped me not only start doing it in practice albeit 30-40% completion rate (was like 5-10% lol) to also landing it in matches in the neutral and at the wall! THANKS SO MUCH seriously helpful

@@SlaughterhouseJTV That's huge dude!

Glad it was helpful!

Huh??

This isn't anything new lol

It’s been around since tag 1, it’s always come down to execution it’s nothing new

Thank you, glad it helped!

It's just two inputs instead of three that make it a little easier especially on pad as you just tap forward then straight to downforward! Glad they helped!

You're welcome thanks for watching!

@@Dianatroda excellent job really, thank you

omg you are heaven sent i stg i wasn't even able to pull off 1 ewgf let alone 2 wgf in a row and i put my L1 on 2+3 and i just hit 3 ewgf in a row omg you THE GOAT

Aaaaaaaaaaay, I do Lee's just frame b1 link that way. Thought I was the only one lol

sadly u cant so it anymore in t8 bcs 2+3 is now a heat engager and burst

@@bananaxz444u can’t just change the binds of that???

​@@bananaxz444you still can only reina amd kaz. Jin and dvj have a df2+3 grab so it don't work

It is but with a little bit of practice you will get better!

😂

I'm in the same boat lol. Learning this on pad, and having to teach myself again in how to execute, as for all the time I put into Tekken. I never really played the Mishima's, but Reina immediately had me ready to change that fact. Past couple days have just sat in practice mode throwing them out, and it does get better with time.

Is difficult with all ps controler 😂😂

@@Chocolate_do_KZfaqbut ps5 the hardest lowkey

Thanks for watching

@Thanks for watching! I use everything that came with the omni so it's a myoungshin Fanta stick and sanwa buttons

Yes it's the myoungshin Fanta and it was the one that came with the etokki omni

Yeah I mentioned looking at the right knee near the end of the video. I just go solely based of timing from muscle memory from practice....its just extremely hard to do consistently!

Yep the input is the exact same input has Hei's OTGF! Are you struggling with getting the electric part of it?

Yep not as strong but still cool to have something similar!

@kzfaq.info After counter hit df+2 you have exactly 13 frames to input PEWGF so you have to start the input the minute kazuya has recovered from the df+2 animation along with that you have to input PEWGF perfectly which is also difficult! After counter hit df+2 your neutral should only be 1 frame, take a look at the command history in the video and see how my neutral is only 1 frame and take a look at your own when you do it in practice mode

You can practice it by punishing Kaz f3(-13) to make sure you’re doing the pewgf

@@hsy2030 yep good example!

I was holding forward for 4 frames but Kazuya was still recovering from the df+2 animation and then when he was recovered the game registered the last forward input of the PEWGF so it was done in 13 frames :)

@@Dianatrodaexactly my point, but then you realize that 4 frames is ~1/15 of a second, this stuff right here requires some intense and constant practice. I'm new to michimas, and I really struggle with playing Reina now, since a lot of her stuff can come out from CD, punishing even -17 moves with EWGF becomes nerve racking, but I still love the depth of these characters, there is so much to learn and master.

It would be good to be able to PEWGF with Reina but if you ever decide you want to try jin or devil jin then you'd have to learn the normal input for EWGF but if you don't ever plan on playing them I would say work away with PEWGF only for now!

Ohhh okay, yeah honestly I've been playing since T5 but never really messed with Mishima's before, and even now Devil Jin is cool but I'm not really interested in playing him but that's good to know thank you.

Good to hear!

It doesn’t work anymore on pad sadly :( you’ll always get a throw

@@vance4172 No that isn't true at all. 2+3 still works, or just bind it to 2...

@@thepunisherxxx6804 idk man I do 2+3 and a throw always comes out. And I wouldn’t bind my 2 as that would be uncomfortable in normal play

@@thepunisherxxx6804 nah it’s definitely true I just tested I could take video and picture proof. That only worked in t7

After a little practice you will be but at least you can do PEWGF for now!

If you are solely going to play kaz/reina then I'd learn PEWGF and be able to do it as fast as you can so you can get it in 13 frames! But the if you wanna play devil jin/jin you'll have to be able to electric the normal way to

You want to know how to do both because regular electric is prolly easier to do from movement and dashes

As far as I'm aware, mist step is fluff carried over from tekken 2 which enabled kaz to sidestep in a 'random' direction. Side step wasn't universal until tekken 3. The way i see it, mist step is just a "stance" that enables you to do crouch dash moves out it. In other words, it's just a 'shortcut' for your cd; this is why mist step allows you to do PEWGF. overall, the sidestep coming from the mist step doesn't really matter. But it would be interesting to see Dia do a video on debunking some myths about it. For example, the crouch cancel utility of mist step to allow you to do cd immediately moves out of crouch. And i've personally wondered if there is any evasion from mist-step.

@@Vivek-Goel_Superfan Is that so? I'm new to tekken but i haven't found mist step helpful in any way at all personally. i assumed it was useful for getting a sidestep into a crouch dash move but it doesn't really occur except when i'm just trying to step forward lol

@Countdownsmiles yes mist step was just fluff carried over from T2 as Vivek mentioned but its only use that it allows one to do EWGF one frame faster. But outside of it has no other uses really

@@Dianatroda Wack lol. Well thanks for the explanation

bro that doesnt work it just does the regular god fist not the electric

@@kungpao56 It works for me, you not doing it fast enough then. You have to press down and 2 right after you did the df. You cant wait or be slow, it has to veeeery fast

@@darkpromeathean937 your method works, though i just made a slight tweak to it bc im playing pad. I input down and just at the right end side of it so it counts as a df and works like a charm

@@KlayTheCow Nice

I used to do 30-45 minutes back in tag 2 when I first started with Mishimas!

PEWGF is 1 frame faster than EWGF if you do a perfect input! And you only hit f,n,df+2 for PEWGF and EWGF is f,n,d,df+2

No you can't buffer it unfortunately 😔

The vest way in my opinion is using ch df+2 just make sure to have command history and you are getting the correct input and doing it as fast as you can! Need to make sure you are getting it in 13 frames!

@kzfaq.info you referring to just the PEWGF itself or getting PEWGF after counter hit df+2?

The Pewgf outta df2 like is there any visual que that you use to hit it or is it strictly down to timing ?

@Shaungotjokes the only visual que is the one I mentioned in the video is immediately when the opponents knee hits the floor you input the PEWGF, it's very hard to do so it will take a good bit of practice!

I wouldn't be able to tell if it's easier but I did just use keyboard for the first time last week and I was able to do PEWGF relatively consistently so maybe would be the answer but I would need to use it a lot more

By inputing df on the right stick right. I do that too and i get pewgf 30% of the times. Practice is key to master the timing

The neutral after the forward needs to be 1 frame yes!

@@Dianatroda ok not the down forwad after the neutral ?? Realy good video by the way

@Sheryuuuken ideally you need to hit df+2 in 1 frame but on the command history it might not say that as you could hold the buttons for a couple of frames after which is normal but the game would have taken the input on the first frame of df+2 if you get me?

@@Dianatroda ooooow wtf 😂😂 i’ll master it Thx for all :D

I stated the differences in the video which is PEWGF is 13 frames and has the different input :) That's it really and that it can only be done by kaz and reina!

IDK how to put it but i meant i thought youd highlight the property difference (like height, range, on block adv, etc) of perfect vs ewgf like you did when you compared the ewgf and wfg. you know. idk if that makes sense.

@@paul9330 Ah ok I get you. Everything is the same except the input and PEWGF is 1 frame faster than normal EWGF.

@@Dianatroda so no reason to do regular ewgf with reina and kazuya, right? since pewgf is the same but better. but i'm still not sure which input method is theoretically the best. i feel like i have harder times doing the second method in terms of motions, with forward, down, downforward, but i'm more consistent with hitting the timing with downforward+2, compared to method 1 with forward, neutral, downforward+2. reason is, on leverless i need to hit down + downforward for diagonals and because of this, i kinda need to hit 3 buttons at the same time, instead of 2. otherwise i won't skip the down input and get the regular electric. but doing the other method with skipping neutral feels like i have to be really fast to be able to do it at all. and this comes with the difficulty of lifting the finger from the forward button right in time, to not accidentally get forward + down as first input, but also i need to hit down fast enough to not get neutral lol. EDIT: in theory, when i think about it, when i mess up the motions for method 2, i still get the regular ewgf, since mostly perfect fails because of the added neutral input. but messing up the timing with method 1 will never result in any ewgf... also method 2 kinda improves my dp motions longterm. so maybe i just stick with that, but i'm curious what other people think.

hit a late ewgf after ch df2, then hit an early one (it will come out as df2 -> df2) then again, hit a late ewgf but try to input it a bit faster this time but not so fast that df2, df2 comes out. Then same with the early input. Work on that interval and make it tighter until the true launchers start to pop out. Session length is very important. You need to hit the first 3 or 4 ones to really get the feel: only then the real practice begins. That'll take 45min+.

don't skip the neutral. input f, n, df2

@kzfaq.info The only thing I done with it is change the standard bat top for a green one so not much!

@@Dianatroda I also have an etokki omni. Could I ask you what fighting board you use? Im trying to figure out what I need to use my etokki for ps5.

😂

Keep practicing and you'll eventually get it Try different timings for hitting the 2 and df together

Okay so I'm glad I'm not the only one. I swear it's more lenient on one side than the other.

I can’t do it at all with hard idk why they made this move so hard 🤦🏽‍♂️

@@J04PierreTekken is all about the execution

Nah I can hit electrics now, gotta keep trying

I hate Reina mashers

I also found it very hard but I am used to kazuyas timing off ch df+2 a lot more than reinas HW1

Very interested to try leverless but just turned off by the learning curve 😅

@@Dianatroda I never grew up playing in arcades but I’ve been a lifelong PC gamer so it was fairly easy to pick up. Since leaving the comment I’ve already cleaned up my P2 side PEWGF. Using it to punish in a match is another story. If you’re interested check out Haute42, really high quality controllers at super affordable pricing.

from neutral yeah, 1 frame for forward, 1 frame for neutral and 1 frame for df+2. The one I done showing the input were for demonstration purposes only. PEWGFs were done at the end of the video with ch df+2 launch. At 4:48 you can see I land PEWGF at ch df+2 and I hold the forward for 3 frames but only the last one registers for the PEWGF as Kaz hasnt recovered from the animation yet, then the neutral held for one as it should be and the the df+2 registers at the correct frame for one but I hold it for an additional 7 frames after the input which is why it reads 8.

your spring should be stiff enough to get 1f neutral

You just have to be really fast with it is all P1 is generally hard to do as you use the whole hand rather than your thumb and fingers on player 1!

To fast! Your forward input is to early and kazuya isn't recovered yet and the forward input is being ate up..try delay it a tiny bit more

@@Dianatroda thanks man i tried delaying it and got an ewgf but not a perfect 🥲

@@okdrako This is something that might take a long time to get even once so don't get to hung up on it. Even now on a good day I would only get PEWGF after counter hit df+2 like 3 or 4 times out of 10 so its extremely difficult! This is something to look at further down the road with kazuya so just focus on being able to do his electric on command, block punishing, whiff punishing and learning match up knowledge!

No cuz jin does not have 13 frame electric.

Sadly, both Jin and Devil Jin don't have a 13 frame electric, but Devil Jin can launch with counter hit while rising 3, which is +14, and also requires perfect input

Nope it doesn't work for jin or dvj

Only difference is the frames and it has a slightly different input! Jin has his own version of EWGF called Electric Wind Hook Fist. It is 14 frames like EWGF but has a different animation on hit!

So Jin doesn’t have a PEWGF, only an EWGF with the same inputs as Kazuya?

@@nugget9514 Yeah just a regular EWGF with a different animation and notation is the same as Kazuyas EWGF

No that is just you still holding the stick in down forward after you have initially inputted it. A slight movement of the stick will register an input so it's completely normal to have the odd df or d after you do a movement like an electric

@@Dianatrodabut its before i did the input tbh, its not after the input

@@clauskpo3849 do you get the electric version when that happens?

i don't actually its like you see d df df df2@@Dianatroda

@clauskpo3849 you are hitting the 2 to late then, need to hit the 2 with the first down forward

Inner shrine Tekken 4

Has to be 1 fr of neutral always.

so this video is lying? 0:59 @@Scott_Conn