that's what happens when a jojo villain ends up in another show

When introduced Hawkins was the coolest supernova, shrugging off kizaru and being fast enough to watch his light speed kick collide with his head only to constantly come back and his straw man form was fekkkn siiiiiiiiiick

@@RyanYoxo"Shrugging off Kizaru" is not just a crazy exaggeration, it's literally the inversion of the truth. He got absolutely butchered by Kizaru with basically no chance of survival. What saved him was the coincidental call of Sentomaru distracting Kizaru and ultimately making him leave.

@@RyanYoxo have we been watching the same show all these years?

He's a servant of fate, and fate told him that he would die if he didn't stay in Kaido's crew. That's the difference between him and someone like Luffy, Kid, or Law. He does whatever fate tells him to, while they dictate their own fate, fighting no matter their odds. Shows the difference between someone who loses their ambition and lets fate dictate their lives vs those who decide thwir own destiny's and keep fighting, no matter the odds. Hawkins is still just like he always has been: a genius, yes, but one that is a servant to "fate" and "chance", i.e., his cards.

Thematically speaking, Hawkins was there to demonstrate what happens to people who venture the seas without having a will of their own. We all know the importance of will in One Piece after all. Hawkins was made to be a disappointment, and on that front, well he didn't disappoint!

Hawkins still tried after the cards told him that he lose, but it wasn’t enough to defy fate.

I always liked that touch as it felt Two-face esque in that it takes an extreme circumstance for him to break this weird decision making process based on chance. And fittingly, that was his downfall.

I mean, he doesn’t quite give up, he fought kizaru though it was a 100% loss

@@RyanYoxo fought? you really dont know the diffrence between a fight and a onesided onslaugh?

Personally i think there is a chance Bonny joins the crew. Not a huge chance, this isn't a Vivi/Carrot/Yamato thing were people are 100% convinced about them joining. But given her backstory, personality, and the fact that her original crew is gone i think she could join them.

@@randomdude185 I was thinking about that, too. But I failed to answer the question "What would be her role in the crew?".

Taste Tester@@MarcMagma

For real though she could be a quarter master or boatswain@@MarcMagma

​@@MarcMagmashe doesn't have to have a unique role She just could be a combatant

Basil Chickens always acted so smug in Wano whenever he thought he was winning, like when he captured Law after taking Law's crew hostage, or when he took Kid hostage against Killer. But then he panics when the tables are turned.

This is exactly my thoughts, Hawkins was one of my favorite SN, and thought he'd do stuff in Wano. But all he managed to do was get wrecked by Killer....

I used to like Hawkins and Apoo until Wano, where they became my least favorites. Hawkins is such a dirty coward, thinking he has the upper hand, until Killer sliced his left arm. It's great to see Hawkins suffering the pain and consequences, frankly I don't feel sorry for him one bit.😊

Nah Hawkins actually did stuff. For me its either urouge or drake. He didn't have a 1v1 fight for some reason (no i will not count off screen cp0 or whoever he fought)

I had such high hopes for him. When the light admiral was destroying and speed blitzing everyone he was the only one able to track him. When he got kicked in the face the manga and anime attention was brought to how his eyes were able to track the kick before it hit him. He just wasnt able to physically dodge

Bro same. His fruit is so cool but he was relegated to being barely more than fodder.

Would a Brook Seraphim still be a skeleton?

@@Lunchbox92probably not

@@Lunchbox92 not a skeleton, but he would without a doubt have the Afro👌

Way back in Sabaody I thought Apoo was the most interesting . Also disappointed he was not in Film Red.

But Kid was also chased out of WCI and got himself and his 1st mate in captivity of Kaido on top of the double-lose against shanks.

​@@koinzellascheriit4282I mean when Kaido drops in on your base what are you going to do

He is and in the end he's as strong as Law, but both didn't show any good use of haki while Luffy learned Ryou and future sight.

@@koinzellascheriit4282he didn’t get chased out of WCI he confirms he only went there to get what he wanted, which we now know is a copy of the road poneglyph

@@koinzellascheriit4282 actually, kidd got the WCI poneglyph, so he pretty much fulfilled his aim like the strawhats did..and you can't blame him for kaido bcoz luffy would have been in jail too if kaido suddenly dropped in

Yep, which is why I think his ending was perfect. It was really well written.

He'll 100% play some part in Elbaf

I genuinely didn't think Mid had legitimate fans

​@@flochforster22Really?

@@flochforster22 Then you let the jokes influence you too much.

@@Fafniiir the only joke is Mid himself. I genuinely think Killer is more suited to be captain of that crew.

Fax

The only possible explanation I can think of is because it’s already expected for Luffy to do that. Whereas with Kidd we expected him not to be stupid to that extent

Luffy also thought *Eveyone* at oden castle had been killed by kaido's boro breath right? Isn't that the reason he attacked kaido even when it was a horrible idea?

@@jongaskell4288 yes

Luffy didnt get zoro one shotted and sunny destroyed.

Yea I don't think kid is done

i really hope so@@sarov7658

I know what it’s like to lose.

Kid is not done because Luffy is also heading to Elbaf

watch kidd become HIM on elbaf or not do anything important

Nah 3rd has got to be either law or kidd or even current zoro

Its likely urouge has at least observation haki, and id imagine that he has been up to some shenanigans in the sky islands. There's hope anyway.

Didn’t they say that monk lost to cracker in whole cake island arc???

Oda is preparing us for him

Just waiting until Urouge becomes the most relevant, important, handsome player in the final saga. He’s already one of the 3 so I have high hopes for him.

Uroge will be in elbaf. Every arc we meet a new supernova. Also uorge took down a commander, he did not disappoint

Fair but kid was set up to be a rival of luffy and seeing him go against strong opponents loosing and not learning anything is the most annoying thing ever yes even worse than that one weird cave luffy found once

32:13 he’s a PIRATE you fool!

Kid has only lost to powerful people

Every arc? We've only seen Kidd lose to Kaido and Shanks. That's only twice and when he lost to Kaido he came back with a plan. Stop lieing

@@jdroker7876yes but he never learns that’s the problem this is hard for me to say but luffy is way smarter than him at least after big mom destroyed him he learned that emperors were no joke kid didn’t he is just an idiot that throws temper tantrums every time he looses because of his stupidity

@@panafricanismisascam5201shanks twice and to kizaru as well when we see him he either has lost a limb or is getting destroyed and what plan are you talking about he never had a plan he doesn’t have enough brain capacity to have a plan

@@itsmeunnamed2854 Typical low IQ response. You get hit with facts and just troll lol 😆

I think Killer is two years older than Kid too so it works out.

i think we'll get more in depth backstory when the crew gets to elbaf, those two are too important to just die after getting one soht by shanks. Either his second loss prolly humbles Kid and he stops being over reckless, and he turns the loss around and is an important ally in the final war.

What abou Apoo, were your expectations for him also low ?

yeah, urouage may come through in Elbaf

😂

kid is over reckless, more than luffy and causes causualities, that why his bounty was higher. i hope this second loss against shanks makes him less reckless from now on

She already got a lot of development already which is good

And he was the only supernova in sabaody to be confirmed with armament and observation haki. I can't wait to properly see how much it has developed. Drake had the 3rd highest bounty in the supernova pre-time skip, I feel like oda wanted him to be more popular then law. I understand his fight with cp0 wasn't great but we've seen how strong cp9 can get and these guys should be on a whole nother level, yea puffy slapped Lucci in egghead but I'm pretty sure they were making a point that Kaku and zorro are still relatively on the same level.

​@@Lizard_king25I mean, Drake seems to have been the one Oda already had plans for back in Sabaody. The interaction between him and Kizaru foreshadowed his role as the leader of Sword. Remember that the supernovas were a last minute addition, so Law's role in the story, and everyone's else was only thought afterwards

@@Lizard_king25 Bro theres no way kaku is on Zoro's level. 💀 Remember zoro has fkn adv conq haki and has feats WAY higher than that lameass kaku, who just has a fkn awakened df.

drake is worse supernova...just another dinosaur character with nothing special.

@@GrowingDownUnder Good thing I don’t care about your opinion then 👍. Also shows how little you payed attention to the the show if the only thing you know about him is his powers.

That would be very cool

That doesn't make any sense, though. The Supernovas are a specific bunch of pirates who rose to fame within a similar time frame, hit bounties over 100 million, and had all reached the Red Line at about the same time, with Luffy and Zoro being among them. There aren't going to suddenly be new ones coming out of nowhere that we somehow didn't know about back then. I think that what you are talking about are other "Super Rookies". Cavendish was one from before the Straw Hats, Bartolomew was one that appeared after them. They also showed some who had been recruited by the fake Straw Hats, like the Caribou brothers. It would make sense for more of those to be revealed, just not Supernovas specifically.

@@dustinrausch5008 I think thats just the worst generation. I think supernovas are just rookies with bounties over 100,000,000 berries. Like Cavendish is a supernova I believe. I could be wrong though, hard to keep track

A supernova is an exploding star and apparently, the sun cannot undergo a supernova event. Maybe the name was chosen to label rising rookies as major players but also to highlight their demise as equally significant.

@@muhammadfaisal5Y5 More specifically a supernova is the end of a large star's lifespan where it's weight becomes so much that it becomes a singularity. At that point the singularity can either collapse into itself if it becomes smaller than the Schwarzschild radius and become a black hole, or fail to do that and rapidly expand in a supernova. Supernovas release a lot of matter into space due to the nuclear fusion and fission taking place inside a star creating 'new matter'. Our Sun is simply too small to do this process, when it becomes more massive it'll eventually grow beyond it's own gravitational pull, by that point all of the inner planets will already have been consumed by it's outer layers. Those layers will then be shed off, destroying most of the rest of the solar system, and leaving a brown dwarf star behind. This process similarly ejects matter out into space, which will eventually become new stars and planets. As for story significance, I like your theory. It's fitting, and perhaps like an actual dying star, and much like Gold Roger, the eventual fates of the supernovas will inspire a new generation at the end of the story.

He regretted joining kaido and even though he knew he was gonna die if he stayed on kaido's side with that 1% survival chance, he didn't want to be like apoo who constantly switched sides whenever it suited him. He went against the chances of his cards even though he knew he was gonna die from it. Or are we just forgetting that scene with him and drake

Actual good reasoning

@@milli5968 Drake thought that the 1% was Luffy and still took that chance too. Luffy, Kid, and Law all knowingly face danger all the time without backing down, even if they could die from it. Hell, even Bege is more impressive than Chickens, as he plotted to solo assassinate Big Mom despite the low chance of success. And he still would have gone through with it even if Luffy hadn't shown up to Wholecake. Chickens is not that special just because of ONE time where he tries to go against fate. The others have been doing that longer than he has.

Fax

What respect has he earned exactly?

I do agree with u that it would help a lot to have Kidd’s backstory in the manga, but at the very least we don’t know their backstory from the SBS.

Not every character needs to hav a backstory tbh I liked hawkins as he is as for apoo and drake I think they stil hav role left

He was set up to be luffy but evil and he just became the biggest idiot ever

Anyone who says Kidd is an idiot, that powerscaling doesn’t matter

Kidd will awakening cope cope no mi fruit so he can still non stop cope even after Luffy,shanks and buggy go laughtale also found one piece , overthrown WG together .go back to their hometown for celebration achievement while Kidd pirates and their cope fans non stop say oda is bad writting in one piece final saga arc end

They’re both coming back lmao

Kid is 100% coming back in Elbaf

Yeah, Eustass is dead... like Pell

​@@danielbishop3806what a joke

Kidd has accomplished more than all the Supernova not named Luffy so stop your delusional hating

@@panafricanismisascam5201 he hasn't accomplished his actual goals don't get me wrong I am a Kidd fan but he's been disappointing the way Oda portrays him

@@bolt7718 he literally lost to the strongest people in the universe what do you expect

@@ihatepower4580 some good haki from him

​​@@panafricanismisascam5201I'm going to have to disagree with that. Im not even going to mention Zoro bc he's a major character in the series but I'm going to have to say law and roughly drake are more impressive. Law was a prodigy in his youth. I mean he acquired enough medical knowledge to be able to use the ope ope no mi later in life, survived a genocide by himself before turning 13, somehow survive on his own long enough to join doflamingo flag, went through a tough training regimen impressing doflamingo enough to groom to becoming his right hand, survived long enough to form his own crew after corazon death. After years of surviving by themselves as orphans became a notorious pirate crew. I'm not going to mention the other stuff known in the series like punk hazard, and dressrosa bc they speak for themselves. Kidd hasn't really had a chance to shine the only two moments I can think where I was impressed by him was where he fought against big mom and kaido. We are least got the chance to see law fight, his strength, weaknesses, leadership style. Idk anything Abt Kidd besides he runs into situations head first with bravado, and in a series like one piece that's not very impressive bc most pirate captains are like. I give drake credit bc we see him turn from a meek young man to a stoic marine. He got over the abuse given by his father and accomplish his goal of being a marine and a rear admiral at that before joining SWORD, so he's like special ops. His "defection" was so real that not even kizaru nor kaido suspected he was secretly a spy. It was because of him that the Marines knew about the alliance of big mom and kaido. If it wasn't for drake releasing law no one would have been the wiser. Though I did wish he had more screen time I admit what I've seen did impress me especially when the marines don't get as much attention under vice admiral