It's all about the tongue angle when Dave tears down his Tektronix 2225 oscilloscope and tweaks a few of the pots to drag the unit back into cal.
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@321reh12 жыл бұрын
Thank You Dave!! Nice Explanation!! I learnt a lot from this video!! Please ignore all negative comments!!! I`m a Electronics Engineering Technologist and Electronics Technician by trade and understood this video perfectly.. I think it`s hilarious that some individuals don`t find it important to have your scope properly calibrated!! And YES there are more problems in scopes or tv`s than just High Voltage Problems!!! I should know I repaired both!!! Your Video was the best 32 min I spent !!!
@ki4dbk12 жыл бұрын
Dave, you are like the Croc Hunter of electronics! That's a compliment too, since I also loved Steve Erwin, and love animals as well as physics and the technical sciences. It's good to see someone passionate and excited about their work and play. You have to have humanity in there, since that's who we are! Keep it up!
@AC600012 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Dave, you have inspired me to break out the service manual on my 2225 and perform some needed adjustments. My 2225 also has a large 1.5M (2W?) resistor soldered to the bottom of the board as R266.
@TropicalEncounter2 жыл бұрын
The world needs more videos like this. Thanks Dave!
@PhilipLeitch2 жыл бұрын
10 years later and this is still useful
@stringlesswonder7 жыл бұрын
I recently bought one of these 2225's as my first scope. Dave's 2 videos on this scope, and the availability of the factory service manual were a major factor. I got a good unit at a good price, but it does need the Ch2 Vert and Coarse Horz pots to be replaced. Not a big deal really as I found the parts I need reasonably priced, but having Dave's 2 videos and the manuals gave me the confidence I could do low level maintenance work to get or keep mine going. Thank's Dave!
@konohh7 жыл бұрын
Same with me. With Daves videos on this 2225 in mind, I also recently bought a 2225 on ebay for quite a reasonable price. Lucky me, everything on mine is spot on and in calibration, just a broken power LED wanted to be replaced.
@LZ1SSA Жыл бұрын
Дейв, Поздрави от България. Голяма работа си.
@RandyLott12 жыл бұрын
I love that old school layout. It's before my time, but I appreciate the hell out of the build quality! That bottom silkscreen system is absolutely beautiful. I haven't seen that before.
@321reh12 жыл бұрын
The Layout is absolutely amazing!!! Incredible Job here....unit was made around 1986--1987......Glad I bought one of these!!!
@dmjita12 жыл бұрын
Dave thank you to make this great job for us every time. Many thanks
@145psg12 жыл бұрын
Awesome. The energy you bring to your videos is just great!
@richsavory77847 жыл бұрын
The spring against the CRT from the frame is not there to prevent any kind of physical damage. It is the grounding spring that connects the dag (The conductive gray-black coating on the outside of the CRT) to ground. If you don't do this, you end up with 7 KV on the dag. The scope in the video was built in '91. The dates are right in front of your face... look at the ICs, they have 4 digit numbers such as "9112" etc. where 91 = year and the 12 = the week of the year.
@321reh12 жыл бұрын
I learned So much about My 2225 without taking it apart!! Now with this video I am equipped to maintain My 2225 ( with my Service Manual ) Thanks Dave!! Once again you have proved to me you are a very good at what you know!!!
@techgood12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of your videos Dave
@danielhildebrand68929 жыл бұрын
Love the Video! Such passion and enthusiasm! Just got a 2215 today and looking for videos and found yours! Cheers Mate!
@Rebelgium12 жыл бұрын
I love these kind of videos the most Dave!
@thewii55212 жыл бұрын
YAAYY! I have been waiting for this for very long. Thank you!
@pb7379-j2k4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2225 for C-64 testing based on your exuberant other video on it! It will be my first “modern” scope, previously only having a 60’s Heathkit! Thanks!
@Leopoldino20202 жыл бұрын
I had such an oscilloscope. A magnificent device. It's like a Mercedes or a Bentley!!!
@321reh12 жыл бұрын
This is a Awesome Video,,,,,,,,,,,As usual I learned a lot,,Thanks Dave!!! Keep Those Videos Coming.
@fostersork11 жыл бұрын
I just got my hands on an old 2225, and this helped a lot on calibrating it. Thanks a bunch, mate!
@cam70ds10 жыл бұрын
I love this scope. I used to carry one as an FE in the late 80's. Had to hand carry it on the airplane. You could not do that today. Thanks!
@lineyt69874 жыл бұрын
Dave, you are a legend. Thks mate.
@ElectronicsAustralia12 жыл бұрын
Really great explanation Dave! Love the detail you go to :-)
@peterhaan90686 жыл бұрын
Dave - Interesting and instructive video. Just a suggestion here. First of all you should always verify/adjust the regulated power supply voltages before you start randomly tweaking! I would be willing to bet that just one adjustment, back to mfr's spec, of one of the regulated power supply voltages would have brought your scope back into cal.
@Nerull1019 жыл бұрын
"USA! USA! USA!" God I love this blog.
@TeroPihlaja12 жыл бұрын
Brilliant timing. Just watched the review half an hour ago! ;)
@EEVblog12 жыл бұрын
@ae4se I don't get it. Was it unreasonable for me to expect the vertical gain adjust pot to be on the vertical board?
@syncmaster710n1412 жыл бұрын
Oh you just can't beat the oldies, i have a Hameg scope that i believe was made in the early 80s, and i still use it over a digital scope. I just love the simplicity, no firmware, no usb connector, just a basic BNC and lots of buttons and knobs.
@2M0JAS12 жыл бұрын
My tongue angle was all wrong, been struggling for years and now you've helped me fix it! ;-)
@sausage58495 жыл бұрын
Nice one Dave. The tongue eyed thing, I think, is just a natural expression when doing these types of things that we all unconsciously do :-)
@robertdrinkall89479 жыл бұрын
I Bought a 2225 a few day's a go, great piece of kit, well pleased.
@MedicineForFuel12 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Dave! Thanks for the "pro tip" about the tounge angle. Lol! Keep it up!
@stevedoubleu99B7 жыл бұрын
I agree about the older mechanical controls which probably required as much design skill as the electronics themselves.
@EEVblog12 жыл бұрын
@ae4se You still have NOT explained why the vertical adjust control SHOULD be on the main board under the CRT, in the last place I, and I think most people (who do not service these things regularly) would look. Please enlighten us with your brilliant technical explanation...
@mohalothman995 жыл бұрын
Lol Dave your technique what you mentioned at the end of the video works with me pretty well Super duper technique fantastic!
@chuckjohnson92957 жыл бұрын
I have repaired a lot of circuit boards in my life and I will have to say that silk screen on the bottom is fantastic. I am not sure I have ever seen that before.
@gregorye60756 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@Zwank3612 жыл бұрын
love ur tear downs
@ernestb.2377 Жыл бұрын
Great, the tong angle, very important 😆
@dealio8212 жыл бұрын
Good job man . Hope more from you
@EdEditz7 жыл бұрын
Ughhhh that's where I failed in my electronics exam. Wrong tongue angle! Ughhh such a pain in the backside ^______^
@EEVblog12 жыл бұрын
@ivaneduardo747 I learned that the first few words in the KZfaq title are indexed much higher in the rankings than later terms, so decided to swap. If people can't find my videos, they can't watch'em :)
@nickzambrano8 жыл бұрын
Just bought one on Ebay. Can't wait to try it out.
@danmcbmusic9 жыл бұрын
great video blog, and great scope too. Nothing like a really good Tek analogue scope! I used to cal scopes and other stuff in the military back in the day. Good tip on the tongue! I'll keep mine in my cheek ... ;-)
@EEVblog12 жыл бұрын
@ae4se Are you saying it's obvious that the vertical gain control would be on the main board under the CRT instead of on the vertical amp board?, and that I (not an experienced Tek service tech) am an idiot for looking their last? Please explain. And as you seem to know, please explain to us why the vertical adjust control is on the main board under the CRT instead of on the vertical amp board...
@jdbhills10 жыл бұрын
Just bought one off ebay it has the 'bodge' resistor also, looks like factory install.
@EEVblog12 жыл бұрын
@TheElectricnoob My video editor VideoStudio can autogenerate music based on length and allows me to tweak the settings. It's a third party add-on, so probably used in other video programs too.
@mantaz11112 жыл бұрын
New intro. Sweet! ;D
@barcelona0801812 жыл бұрын
@EEVblog Thanks Dave. Great vid by the way.
@moenhowto46559 жыл бұрын
My Tek 2225 came today very nice and the two blogs I have seen so far by Dave will help a lot, only trouble with that tongue angle and eye squint is drool and eye water opps burnt my board out. :-)
@Satchmoeddie12 жыл бұрын
Imagine calibrating this stuff for a living? A cal cert is over $1200 now for the military lab stuff. My scopes are the antiques with universal joints and shafts leading to cavities in the back of the scope. One is 50 years old this year. I use it at a shop I moonlight at. My Tektronix was stolen at one of these shops.It is an old HP that was comparable to a Tektronix and I think they are only 20MHz. It has 50 or so very lovely Amperex select HP matched section ECC88 tubes in it!
@JN.0_o11 жыл бұрын
nutty bloke, great video.
@UberAlphaSirus11 жыл бұрын
Cheers Dave, You have cost me a fortune over the last year, but now I can regain some of my old stuff too. Gonna cal my really really old Analog scope with the Rigols (DS1052E you made me buy) probe cal point. Only because you haven't made me buy a fuct gen yet!
@MrPaddy10001118 жыл бұрын
Love the "Made in Holland" sticker covering the "Made in Taiwan" on the board! 14:25
@jcobnl6 жыл бұрын
And all the Dutch go mad: "It's The Netherlands, not Holland!"
@Mr.Not_Sure3 жыл бұрын
Epic!
@kaysonntag74 Жыл бұрын
@ 10:00 7kV are still boring.😉 My best experience was a 27kV discharge of the picture tube (capacity Anode -> GND ~2nF) of a large colour TV set, a few seconds after switching it off. It really went bang and felt as if I had been kicked by a horse. The right arm was partially numb and paralysed for a few minutes and even after a day or two I had a pain like a sore muscle. You never forget that when you have experienced it.⚡
@warplanner88528 жыл бұрын
Jeeee-zus, Davey! You like bodges? Try working on a Tek 485! They have bodged parts al over! All artfully done, of course, but shows that Tek did a lot of after-production engineering. And the 485's test points are a saving grace. (True with most Tek scopes. Fun to work on!)
@321reh12 жыл бұрын
I can't believe some of the negative comments being expressed in this video!! Dave is explaining the 2225 in a Engineering perspective and in my opinion did a damn good job doing it!! I am Extremely impressed with your explanation( I own a 2225) Am I a Technician,,,,,Nope !! I`m a Electronic Engineering Technologist and ran a VCR repair for 14 years,,so I was a technician and a Engineer!!! Most Technicians can calibrate there scopes with the help of a service manual and a little know how!!!
@murnelbabineaux1058 жыл бұрын
I have the Tek 2225. Great O-Scope!!
@charlesdownen40712 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@undefined403 жыл бұрын
Designed with maintenance in mind. ...that I am allowed to see such again in my old days.
@high1voltage1rules11 жыл бұрын
Haha love your videos mate errrm" lol you crack me up! Thanx for sharing ya video THUMBS UP*
@michaelhawthorne869610 жыл бұрын
I went through college using Gould and Hameg scopes, good for the course but that's all. I used a Tektronix sampling scope going down to Pico seconds at GEC and 4 1/2 digit Fluke multimeters. This is in the early eighties, imagine what the company would have paid for these items. Even now these wouldn't be cheap. I have a 2225 at work and its brother ( I can't remember the number) with digital storage, I have at home a Vellerman 60 MHz PC scope (Stop laughing, it does me LOL) I think scopes are the most useful equipment you can have aside from a quality multimeter. Great video Dave, The layout of the board shows Tektronix as up there with the best of them..... an engineers dream Keep them coming By the way, you have some nice test equipment there....drool...
@TheAdambee712 жыл бұрын
i still use my old 468s. old Tek scopes are good workhorses. great vid man.
@luchenderieckx14632 жыл бұрын
I just repaired a 2225 from a friend. There was just one of the connections between the input attenuator print and the main board broken which caused channel 2 to virtually not function and apart from the difficulty to reach this multi-wire cable the repair was fairly easy. One strange thing is that both vertical position controls are reversed. The left knob controls the position of the right channel 2 and vice versa. There does not seem anything wrong with the cabling from the front panel to the main board, so I guess this was like that from when this scope left the factory. Mayne they changed the PCB design afterwards...
@WillemExist7 жыл бұрын
My 2225 has the same "bodge" resistor.
@dealio8212 жыл бұрын
I like the new intro thumbs up
@jesusedierhernandez152611 жыл бұрын
i got another job,but thank you for the offer, a digital osciloscope and some multimeters,will,make me happy,but i will buy those thing on this year,no problem,and happy new year
@singhpk9911 жыл бұрын
HV transformer. check power consumption. If it is running rather cool, less than 90 watts, Hv transformer may be blown. The unreg 15 volts goes to 21 volts as it has no load on it. It normally powers the HV inverter using the 2n3055 mounted on panel near the fan. The 2n3055 has Tektronix part number of course. The HV transformer can be had maybe for $20 from tucker surplus, if you are lucky.
@ki4dbk12 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to see that long plastic push rod in use on the power switch. Very cool.
@ovalwingnut4 жыл бұрын
Back for a 2nd suck of the sav.... thank YOU
@WillemExist7 жыл бұрын
Love the decoupling cap over the ic. What do you mean "resistor over the inductor. Adding damping!
@m0gga11 жыл бұрын
Dave you are my hero, so funny. I love your witty style of presentation. Keep up the good work.
@Tibbon7 жыл бұрын
I've got a 60mhz version of one of these. What's the best strength of it compared to new, cheap and shiny stuff out of China for a few hundred bucks? I'm doing mostly audio stuff (guitar amps, pedals, synths, etc)
@gillianseed441911 жыл бұрын
looks like it was kept in a clean room
@Ivo--12 жыл бұрын
I think these scopes were made in the time Fluke worked together with Philips. Philips Test and Measurement was situated in my hometown at the time, and I have a few Fluke DEMO units made in Holland. Great stuff.
@EEVblog12 жыл бұрын
@Madmax23419 Are you the same vintage as the scope? :->
@PeterWalkerHP16c8 жыл бұрын
I thought 'this is a nice CRO' ... until I saw the Agilent 3054. Very Nice. My old analogue girl is the Hitachi V1050F.
@rustyrebar96474 жыл бұрын
15:00 - that trimmer capacitor is called a piston trimmer. Their parasitic resonance frequencies are much higher than most other trimmer caps,which is what you need in a high BW circuit.....
@alanshields163810 жыл бұрын
Great teardown Dave. I bought a 2230 for a song and re-furbished, works great. Incidentally does anybody now where to buy Tektronix Blue paint ( apart from the States)
@EEVblog12 жыл бұрын
@TomCEvans Sounds like a factory mod then, thanks for the confirmation.
@CodfishCatfish10 жыл бұрын
Great vids as ever Dave and in the very first few minutes you named a bodged resistor. If you look back over the video at 11:32 you see the exact same type of resistor in the middle of the shot so it looks like a Tectronix fix or update. It's seems doubtful that someone would have replaced both the parts but could be an upgrade.?? Your the expert I am only going by the video. 73 all the best
@Pieh08 жыл бұрын
0:29 NEVER play that music again, it makes me feel like i've just been at a week long management seminar on all the latest management buzz words.
@Nexfero8 жыл бұрын
+Pieh0 hahaha so Im not the only one, I thought it sounded like background music for an old 90s instructional video
@TECHNO_TURK8 жыл бұрын
untill you drool with your tongue on the pcb. always dry your tongue first with a solder sponge or something.
@veraxis99617 жыл бұрын
No joke, though. I once transplanted the CRT in an old HP spectrum analyzer on a really hot day, and a drop of sweat fell onto the high voltage board. I VERY CAREFULLY wiped it off (it had been discharged, too), but when I first turned it on again after closing it up, I heard a slight hiss coming from inside. Fortunately, it went away after a few seconds, and the analyzer is working fine.
@BradsGuitarGarage7 жыл бұрын
That hiss send a shiver down my spine. I stick a strawer in my ear to pinpoint where it's coming from!
@BruceNitroxpro6 жыл бұрын
Tongue there, done that! ROFLMAO
@KB1UIF12 жыл бұрын
Good video as always Dave! The spring refered to in the video may be required to ground the outer metalic coating on the glass of the display tube to the chassis. Also often seen in TV sets. My mentors refered to it as "The Aquadag coating" Not really sure about the spelling.
@jaryH312 жыл бұрын
Why adjusting for the peaks, not center of the line? If you change the brightness, you'll get off a bit, won't you?
@gman76utube11 жыл бұрын
Hoi Dave, :o) Great walk thru as usual. USA....USA...USA. Ha! Got a few tips from your video - I've got to repair my Tek 2246 scope I bought from ebay yrs ago. Anyway, the move to SMD as you state allows smaller board and also smaller lighter chassis. To the others, I'll take a vintage tek over a rigol any day.
@davids66793 жыл бұрын
this an old video. but was hoping someone could help me. I have a 2225 and the trace focus is off! even though I can use the trace focus knob, I can not get the trace to become thin and sharp! anybody know which POT inside I turn to adjust this?
@44209david12 жыл бұрын
you said Tektronix 3000 scope as your signal generation not Agilent but great video as usal Great stuff dave!
@EEVblog12 жыл бұрын
@omgitschrislol It ain't just the solder, but lead weight and associated smaller board space as well. I wouldn't like to guess at a number...
@raulromo79308 жыл бұрын
Hey i got 2 tektronix scopes the tas 465 a 2225 as in this video and a hp3312a function generator. i need som help ive seen this video a bunch of times but dont know how to adjust trace rotation on 2225 seem not to be changing, the function generator must be fixed also if you have an idea and the tas working perfectly except it haves a small vertical scale max 5 V pe division scale any thoughts Regards
@thomasschwarzinger775710 жыл бұрын
like for the demonstration of the tongue angle :))
@JohnFHendry8 жыл бұрын
Well as Dave said "know what you are doing" and I can only imagine how many "know enoughs" messed with some of these older used scopes to use or sell them.... and have not seen any I would call inexpensive looking. As a project one of these would be great but as practical tool going past 25 years old is pushing it without getting lucky IMO without parts availability and knowing exactly what you are doing. There are some serious high voltages inside to deal with.... and 100v on the main board exposed as well.
@rkupka11 жыл бұрын
Angle of your tongue. LOOOL Please add more jokes like that.
@Royalbigness7 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, Are you able to do a video on the 465B ? How to check calibration etc and a general tuition on how to use one, say in an Audio application ? I'm new to scopes and would like to adapt it as I build my knowledge on Amp repair. Thanks mate.
@CoolMusicToMyEars4 жыл бұрын
Looking at the components it looks to be made after 25th week 1991, spring is for grounding of outer CRT carbon spray coating, Frequency setting is 50KHz for scope set up frequency, Look at the old Tektronix TM500 series, TG501A, SG504, SG503, PG506A etc or more modern TM5000 series.
@KB1UIF3 жыл бұрын
Dave, isn't that spring at the the top of the case to ground the dag on the tube? Also check the power rails before calibration !! normally part of the calibration process.
@38911bytefree12 жыл бұрын
Does the service manual mention something like wait till the unit warm-up prior doing any adjust ?.
@neorecasata813611 жыл бұрын
haha right eye and tongue angle
@flyingfrancisco11 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave I picked up one of these scopes after seeing this video and would like to have your opinion on a problem with it. I am looking at an audio input on channel 1 and the amplified output on channel 2. The wave forms both have large envelopes around them, however as soon as I touch the scope metal casing I get a nice audio signal clear without the envelope. Any ideas what I should be looking at. Thx in advance