Tektronix - Transmission Lines

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Jamie Maloway

Jamie Maloway

11 жыл бұрын

Quite possibly the best film ever produced. Twenty-five action-packed minutes of high-energy (pun intended) transmission line science.
"I give this video +3dB" - Gary Schwartz

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@jaygade
@jaygade 8 жыл бұрын
I've been working in radio and electronics for almost 30 years, and this is the best explanation of transmission lines that I have ever seen.
@bradleysmith681
@bradleysmith681 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!
@Paul-gz5dp
@Paul-gz5dp 5 жыл бұрын
Even better when you can have hands on in a lab and see the stuff first hand.
@theoldbigmoose
@theoldbigmoose 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! Lots of things so easily clarified.
@tedswimerr34
@tedswimerr34 7 жыл бұрын
I have worked in the radio and radar industry for over 52 years and never fully understood the operation of transmission lines. This movie taught me more in 23 minutes about transmission lines than i learned in those 52 years. Kind of makes me wonder how many antenna jobs i screwed up!!!!!
@bradleysmith681
@bradleysmith681 6 жыл бұрын
Ted Swimerr I agree.. I understand the math but never really understood the real physics.. Imagine how much more we could fully understand electronics if all concepts were explained so well....
@Paul-gz5dp
@Paul-gz5dp 5 жыл бұрын
@@bradleysmith681 They are explained just as well and better if talking to the right people. I have known this for more than 30 years. Want to see one even worse try chasing down a ground loop sometime...
@wbeaty
@wbeaty 2 күн бұрын
When MIT tried this sort of thing in the 1990s, the students rose up in arms, and got rid of it. (This was Belcher's E&M course, with animated field-diagrams.) They wanted obscure math only. If it's taught without math, with visual-intuitive animations, then any mere technician can understand all the concepts! They put a stop to it. (The student-revolt was among physics students. It's like having a bunch of Medieval pre-meds who eliminate any professor who would teach, not in proper Latin, but in English which any outsider could understand.)
@dabay200
@dabay200 5 жыл бұрын
Tektronix had a CRT scope in 1950s capable of a bandwidth of a few hundred MHz, very impressive
@billwesley
@billwesley 7 жыл бұрын
Some people might think that this video is boring but actually it is exciting if you use imagination to understand the principals. Consider that these are also the principals of acoustics where a "reflection" is called an echo. A string on an musical instrument behaves exactly the same way constituting an acoustic transmission line with a small load, the string is plucked or bowed to create a pulse, this pulse travels to the end of the string and is inverted and reflected, then it is reflected again and re inverted off the opposite end. The pulse moves back and fourth making a tone that gradually decays. The instrument body functions as the load and the players motions as the temporarily connected battery. The pulse contains many harmonic frequencies and the nature of the load(the instrument body) verses the length and structure of the string determines the standing wave properties that filter the harmonics which provides the timbre (the tonal quality) of the instrument. Your breath is a battery, your vocal chords are a switch, your throat and nasal passage are two acoustic transmission lines and the air outside your lips and nose are the load. The transmission lines in this case are very complex with different adjustable impedance's distributed along their length( unlike an electronic transmission line with its consistent impedance) such that the end result is you can sing and speak. Most people think electronics are very abstract and remote form day to day existence but you are using these principals every to time you speak, you are appreciating these principals every time you listen to music.
@sunlongsun2071
@sunlongsun2071 3 жыл бұрын
wow
@MysticMonster7
@MysticMonster7 2 жыл бұрын
amazingly written
@BenInSeattle
@BenInSeattle 2 жыл бұрын
I was watching this at 2× speed, kind of bored until about the six minute mark... and then I sat up and said, _whoa!_ I had to rewind because I'd never learned what characteristic impedance actually was. I knew the effect of an impedance mismatch was that the signal bounced, but I didn't get _why_ it did. In rapid succession there were three key things this video taught me about high frequency signals: 1. The insulator between conductors, even if it is air, is the "dielectric" of a capacitor. 2. Every wire, even an ideal one with zero resistance, has inductance. 3. To make it easier to conceptualize, it's okay to chop up the line into multiple segments of repeating inductors and capacitors that pass the signal one to the next. Also helpful was the reminder that the characteristic impedance Z = sqrt(L/C). Increasing the length of the cable increases L at the same rate it increases C, so it cancels out when calculating Z. Therefore, 4. Theoretically, a cable will have the same characteristic impedance no matter how long it is.
@jimthvac100
@jimthvac100 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I have understood impedance, reflection and velocity factor. Thank you for sharing this.
@americanspirit8932
@americanspirit8932 Жыл бұрын
We used tectonic oscilloscopes, when I was employed by Western Electric AT&T. It was to me, like a mechanic is to a wrench, or to a hammer is to a carpenter. In my opinion they made the best oscilloscopes available at that time.
@pseudolullus
@pseudolullus 3 ай бұрын
Yup, we still use Tektronix in research labs :D
@MrBrightlight66
@MrBrightlight66 8 жыл бұрын
best depiction of basic transmission line theory in spite of age. Thumbs up.
@DCFusor
@DCFusor 7 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. For those who didn't know, the PC pci bus works like that reflected flattop signal at around 20: min. The driver only makes half the amplitude/current to get to logic level and the bus is sampled at reflection time so things see the full desired level. Fairly slick, but obviously length dependent in the extreme. If anyone worked with ECL back in the day, the only other good reference for this work was from Motorola ECL design handbook...and I still use the knowledge today.
@mrdouble
@mrdouble Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, that's absolutely amazing, I'd like to find more Information on this. Any other links or book titles?
@gabotron94
@gabotron94 11 жыл бұрын
Now THIS... is a transmission line
@phddgrd
@phddgrd Жыл бұрын
After watching this kind of videos you're left with a profound sensation of awe and satisfaction about the vibe and delivery of this kind of content, now old style videos. Glad some of them are preserved in time in here...
@CNLohr
@CNLohr 11 жыл бұрын
I actually screamed out loud at 13:38 because it offended my senses of what should and should not happen so deeply. I knew why and understood but never was it displayed so clearly to me.
@SkittleDash
@SkittleDash 10 жыл бұрын
I feel old videos somehow hearth-warming :D
@jackriddle3891
@jackriddle3891 2 жыл бұрын
100%. What people designed/made/did back then, doing their calculations on paper and slide rules! Really amazing. They had to know their stuff.
@GoSlash27
@GoSlash27 3 жыл бұрын
If you're still having trouble, AT&T Archive has an even better video; Similarities of Wave Behavior by Dr. John Shive. Definitely worth a look.
@c1t1z3nz3r0
@c1t1z3nz3r0 10 ай бұрын
This video not only opened my eyes, it also open my skull, erased what i thought i knew about transmission lines and put back what i should know about transmission lines. Thanks for sharing it.
@abdullahsy7072
@abdullahsy7072 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video I wish there are more of these kinds of videos explaining fundamental things in telecommunication Engineering :)
@mgragirena1
@mgragirena1 4 жыл бұрын
Certainly this explanation of reflected waves from transmission lines is the best I have seen.
@ianirvingthorsonc
@ianirvingthorsonc Жыл бұрын
If i binge watched these videos 20 years ago in college, things would have been different 😅❤❤❤ magnificent..
@dvscrobe
@dvscrobe 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! I stepped in a time machine here! That is some old footage. Best explanation I have heard on what is characteristic impedance. Very good info here!
@DonzLockz
@DonzLockz Жыл бұрын
These old videos explain principles and examples so much better than modern videos! 👍🍻
@mrhoho
@mrhoho 11 ай бұрын
it is stupid that this video is more clear up to me than google search on 2023 and my elec engineering course.
@TrystansWorkbench
@TrystansWorkbench 5 жыл бұрын
Wow - how good was that eh? Brilliant. So well explained. Thank you for uploading it and making it available for us to learn from.
@bradleysmith681
@bradleysmith681 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this!! Best explanation ever! Now I understand the basics that I've been looking for. These old training videos destroy anything produced today. If anyone wants to see some great explanation of antenna theory, look up the old videos titled "Antenna Fundamentals"
@RoboGenesHimanshuVerma
@RoboGenesHimanshuVerma 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a well made lecture !
@Aemilindore
@Aemilindore 5 жыл бұрын
Bless your mind for uploading thid! Lots of love!
@manueljenkin95
@manueljenkin95 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing this gem.
@desawung3880
@desawung3880 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, and great job explaining this concept from the ground up.
@nizaribrahim8647
@nizaribrahim8647 Жыл бұрын
this is the best video I have ever seen about impedance matching, thank you !
@lisizecha9759
@lisizecha9759 4 ай бұрын
Old, but gold
@aardrock
@aardrock 2 жыл бұрын
Best explanation of transmission lines I ever saw. Simple, clear, concise, complete, tranquil, structured. Leads by example.
@MrSparker95
@MrSparker95 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! That's what i've been looking for.
@kevinkane7667
@kevinkane7667 5 жыл бұрын
A fantastic lesson, a masterpiece of explanation.
@philradford2717
@philradford2717 10 жыл бұрын
Cool video. I think we had an o scope like that in school in the 70's.
@6alecapristrudel
@6alecapristrudel 6 жыл бұрын
This is so amazing yet simple at the same time. I was wondering wtf that 50 Ohms thing was, the video makes it so intuitive>
@vargas0033
@vargas0033 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this video.
@chung-fanyang4048
@chung-fanyang4048 8 жыл бұрын
Better than tutor I met before. Thanks for the video.
@victorogunjimi2206
@victorogunjimi2206 9 жыл бұрын
Well presented and fun explanation - good job.
@jackyappu
@jackyappu 9 жыл бұрын
it have been explained well....now i had go idea about transmission line...thanks
@Avalanchanime
@Avalanchanime 4 жыл бұрын
*Beautiful.*
@vidasvv
@vidasvv 3 жыл бұрын
Great video ! TNX 4 the upload !
@budimulyanto7997
@budimulyanto7997 5 жыл бұрын
great video. seeing is believing.
@yoramstein
@yoramstein 7 жыл бұрын
Great video !
@benthayermath
@benthayermath 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic!
@WistrelChianti
@WistrelChianti 4 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome video!
@atsdroid
@atsdroid 10 жыл бұрын
This should be required viewing for any radio amateur seeking a license beyond technician-class.
@techmakerandhacker7867
@techmakerandhacker7867 11 ай бұрын
nothing less than pure gold
@TheAlfieobanz
@TheAlfieobanz 6 жыл бұрын
Wow...the vid was amazing.
@LeKulverstukas
@LeKulverstukas 5 жыл бұрын
And here I thought I got recommended a sick techno track. Bamboozled again!
@joet4348
@joet4348 Жыл бұрын
That’s really funny
@mrhoho
@mrhoho 11 ай бұрын
thanks for sharing
@ZaphodHarkonnen
@ZaphodHarkonnen 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... so that's what termination is. This video makes things so much clearer.
@cevansinz
@cevansinz Жыл бұрын
Ok. With a title like that I thought it was gonna be an electro-industrial track.
@StefanT41
@StefanT41 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! i watched this with plesure
@carlosanvito
@carlosanvito 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I had this video when I was in engineering school "a million" years ago.
@vidhyadhar64
@vidhyadhar64 Жыл бұрын
very good explanation...
@mouseminer2978
@mouseminer2978 3 жыл бұрын
Timeless
@matthiasburger1277
@matthiasburger1277 2 жыл бұрын
Lernen unter optimalen, ist gleich beruhigenden Bedingungen. Sprecher, Musik, Geschwindigkei, perfekt.
@TimPerfetto
@TimPerfetto Жыл бұрын
Is this a transmission line? Is that a transmission line? Am I a transmission line? Are you a transmission line?
@dancodella7911
@dancodella7911 5 жыл бұрын
They don't teach like this anymore
@RAndrewNeal
@RAndrewNeal Жыл бұрын
Now I finally understand transmission lines, characteristic impedance, and reflections. Now to apply this knowledge in the real world to RF and in helping better understand antenna theory. Though I still wonder why impedance matching and reflections aren't an issue at low frequency, with electrically short conductors (transmission lines). Particularly in the Audio world where power amp output impedance is ideally 0 Ohms, going into a load of a few to a few hundred Ohms. Oh, is it that the characteristic impedance of a transmission line is high enough to be negligible at low frequencies?
10 жыл бұрын
that was my first experiment with an oscilloscope 6 years ago
@iLoveEatingPie
@iLoveEatingPie 5 жыл бұрын
Is mayonnaise a transmission line?
@liryan
@liryan 9 жыл бұрын
Point 95!
@thecriticalpoint
@thecriticalpoint 4 жыл бұрын
University programs are mostly overpriced trash. More often then not someone has to get over a language barrier before they can start to understand and integrate the basics. I love these videos.
@VideosLGful
@VideosLGful 2 жыл бұрын
True, I learn a lot more watching these videos than a professor explaining about theories and mathematical calculations, without the most basic foundations, unfortunately universities today only form a bunch of illiterates, sad that.
@kennethwandall8375
@kennethwandall8375 Жыл бұрын
The current (electrons) are not moving lightning fast, the field (volt) is
@SquantoTerror
@SquantoTerror 8 жыл бұрын
+3 dB
@Funkylogic
@Funkylogic 6 жыл бұрын
More Tek Awesomenessness!!! Why would you buy any other CRO if you had the money!
@ElectricEvan
@ElectricEvan 7 жыл бұрын
Do we know who the narrator was?
@ch0vits
@ch0vits 10 жыл бұрын
where can i find this kind of old videos bout electronics and communication? please help!
@thewolfin
@thewolfin 10 жыл бұрын
On VHS in ancient school library archives.
@bobweiss8682
@bobweiss8682 7 жыл бұрын
Looks a good deal older than VHS. 16mm film, maybe...
@user-ht1iz9xh5d
@user-ht1iz9xh5d 4 жыл бұрын
There are some youtubbers like eevblog by Dave Jones and W2AEW about spectrum analyzers, mixers, rf signals, etc
@tonyfremont
@tonyfremont 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have never guessed that Ronald Reagan knew so much about transmission line theory. Must have been between Hollywood gigs. ;)
@lwilton
@lwilton Жыл бұрын
Ronnie was a smart guy and knew quite a lot about quite a few things. He may well have known how a transmission line worked. However, I highly doubt he went up to Beaverton to voice this video. :-)
@TechTins_Projects
@TechTins_Projects 10 жыл бұрын
Jamie well done! fantastic find. Do you know if there are any more old videos like this anywhere?
@JoseSanchez-xd1oz
@JoseSanchez-xd1oz Жыл бұрын
All wires are transmission lines.
@mejoe444
@mejoe444 10 ай бұрын
At 14:18 can someone tell me why those two waves on scope screen do not combine?
@bud849
@bud849 2 ай бұрын
The two waves do not combine because each occurred at a different time. The horizontal axis of oscilloscope is a range of time, not a single moment.
@stummstefan9735
@stummstefan9735 3 жыл бұрын
wait...its all transmission line?!
@PaulMarostica
@PaulMarostica 2 жыл бұрын
For a short circuit, the return signal was said to be reflected. But aren't the short circuit's 2 emitted pulses each just transmitting through the short circuit to cross to and return in the opposite line, which explains the short circuit return signal's opposite polarity?
@lwilton
@lwilton Жыл бұрын
Well yes, but the major point is that the signal doesn't disappear at the end, it returns. And by convention we call that return a reflection when talking about transmission lines, regardless of the exact mismatch phenomenon causing the return. (If we were talking about radar, the reflection of the energy from the target is called a "return", just to be confusing.)
@PaulMarostica
@PaulMarostica Жыл бұрын
@@lwilton Thanks. I think that, because there really is no reflection in a short circuit, to avoid further confusion, the convention should be changed. I don't find the radar reflection to be confusing, since it really is a reflection.
@pitdog75
@pitdog75 Жыл бұрын
Guy sounds a bit like Spock.
@thewolfin
@thewolfin 11 жыл бұрын
watch?v=DovunOxlY1k This one's better, but doesn't have the same feel.
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