Tim Lerch - Practical Practice - Getting the most out your efforts.

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Tim Lerch - Practical Practice - Getting the most out your efforts.

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10 ай бұрын

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@TimLerchGuitar 10 ай бұрын

Here is a related video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hJmJgKehtaqcoaM.htmlsi=ZxyfJp7A1NijwyhM

@tonympirrotta 9 ай бұрын

This has been the perfect lesson for me since going through music school. I was actually so overloaded with information that I had distanced myself from guitar because I got overwhelmed by picking it up. I learned every triad inversion on every string, every 7th chord inversion, every key, every mode, in harmonic melodic and major/ natural minor. So many different songs and standards, different ways to play them, advanced theory, sight reading, composition, the whole works. ALL in the span of 2 years. I couldn't practice anything without feeling as though I had to practice the next thing, and it was way too much. Now im sitting here on the other extreme, simply switching between 1-4-5 in G. Allowing myself to feel it, listen to it, and enjoy it. The path is making sense again. Although im able to do "more", I remember that more isn't the point. The point is to play, and in order to play, you need to integrate it, make it part of you, and enjoy the sound. That can be done with just one note.

@anthonyfox1436 6 ай бұрын

Nice , I needed to hear that .

@dmoorefsmfn 2 ай бұрын

I experienced something very similar in music school. I was in my early 30s, married, and had two very young kids trying to make sense of a jazz curriculum for which I was neither musically or emotionally prepared. I have the degree, but I'm not sure I came out of really knowing how to play jazz beyond performing mental acrobatics while simultaneously trying to make my fingers do something on my fret board. The overload of information and the pressure to play in college overwhelmed me to the point that I had no idea of how to practice the volume of stuff thrown at me. The end result was that I have a ton of head knowledge and can't play like I want too. 21 years later I am finally giving myself permission to play and listen to music I actually enjoy. I now value my practice time because I understand how it is a means to an end: Technical proficiency enables me to better play the music I hear. Ironically, some things have come full circle. I am learning to play phrases from Kinda Blue "So What." It is so cliche' it's laughable. Yet the use of simple harmony is incredible and what really makes it for me is the phrasing and articulation that turns that simplicity into something much, much more. After listening to part of this video today I gained further insight into what I like to hear and want to play. That's a gift. Funny you mentioned "one note." I recently read that John Coltrane would play one note for hours. I'm not sure if that is truth or legend, but it has merit.

@TheKeyToMusicOfficial Ай бұрын

and getting one note to sound good is a thing all by itself!

@dabblesonguitar6752 9 ай бұрын

To add: 13:00 Don’t practice until you get it right. Practice until you can’t get it wrong. Applies to a lot in life. Great video, thank you

@brucebyrnes125 10 ай бұрын

“Learning something poorly quickly” is probably the story of my guitar journey so far. Too much information and a tendency to chase the next shiny new object definitely holds me back

@RickDanner 10 ай бұрын

i do the same thing I learn 20 things and end up with nothing new under my fingers

@guitarlots 10 ай бұрын

Just learn songs

@danjohnstonguitar9484 10 ай бұрын

Excellent advice! In the 31 years I've been teaching guitar, the #1 thing I notice - and make sure the student is aware of - is to never practice mistakes. Most people are not aware that they are hard wiring into their brain, something other than what they intended. And, echoing what you said, people try to practice way too much at once. Just changing those two things can transform one's playing.

@daynemin 9 ай бұрын

@@danjohnstonguitar9484nice! Do you have any tips on undoing the slop, I'm currently relearning guitar. Noticing how much of my playing used to be just muscle memory and habit, was not tagging and actively listening and connecting myself to the sound/music.

@danjohnstonguitar9484 9 ай бұрын

@daynemin I think a good place to start is to work on ideas that you already know, but play them at a slow speed, making sure your timing is solid. If it's not, use a metronome to keep you solid and well below your speed threshold. This can help reconnect those older muscle memory movements. Also, I find with myself that I need to let the fretting hand lead, as usually the picking hand is faster. If I focus on this, mentally, I find that my playing sounds and feels more synchronized and smooth. I hope this helps!

@mikebauer6917 10 ай бұрын

As an older learner I am taking my time because it is my time; no desire to “go pro” or any such hurry. I’m enjoying the journey and fully enjoying each incremental achievement.

@chuck785 9 ай бұрын

There's a reason it's called 'playing' music, not 'working' music!

@smokinjazzguitar 8 күн бұрын

Out of all the guitar videos on KZfaq that I have heard and watched, this is the best and most useful one, great work Tim and thank you!

@johnpierson8398 10 ай бұрын

I have been playing guitar for 50 years, and I am still trying to build my knowledge and guitar playing vocabulary. I have taken years of lessons and still study on my own. This is the very best guitar lesson I think I have ever had! The patience, understanding, accuracy and paced way of learning makes so much sense. For all of us who play guitar, here are words of wisdom

@GordiansKnotHere 6 ай бұрын

I've been playing, studying the guitar for over 4 decades. I also study Internal Martial Arts and have been practicing-studying for about the same amount of time. I have found the one constant that make the most impact is "Less is More, Slow is Fast"... Mastery at any art take practice, do it with a happy heart gang!

@Thinking_Ape_Plus_Clothes 10 ай бұрын

“Good sounds throughout. I don’t want to be practicing mistakes.” This is something I think every guitarist can relate to

@wizrom3046 9 ай бұрын

I practice the hell out of those mistakes lol, I'm starting to get quite good at 'em 😁

@BlondChronicles 10 ай бұрын

Your voice. Your face expressions. Your thoughts. The intelligence of your comments. All adds up into a very sweet learning experience. Thanks!

@analogblues9606 10 ай бұрын

I’ve been playing for 59 years and not even close to where I’d like to be. Tim, you put it in such a way that’s eye opening, easy, practical and beneficial! Thanks so much!!! 😊

@duyle8921 2 ай бұрын

Extremely valuable and informative lesson. Thank you, Tim.

@mattgarbutt254 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for this great lesson! On the surface, some of this seems perfectly obvious but is stuff that I’m sure many of us don’t actually take on board… what you say about “we practice something until we can play it once, then stop” is so true! I’m a bass player currently retraining to play left handed as I have dystonia in my right hand… reframing the idea of practice as something to be enjoyed (enjoying the sound and the whole process) rather than a chore is so crucial to my approach. Great video, thanks again

@johnanthonyoneill5570 10 ай бұрын

I've been practicing my mistakes for over 40 years and getting rather good at them. lol. Great lesson. Seriously great advice Tim. Thank you!

@markharris2562 10 ай бұрын

Why do I get the feeling the best 20-min lessons take years to complete? Thank you for the wonderful explanation!

@michelnaone9342 10 ай бұрын

A good habit to get into is to watch this video regularly. Thank you Tim.

@davemassie3726 10 ай бұрын

Don't practice mistakes! Love it, great lesson. Thanks Tim for sharing. Beautiful guitar.

@sosebee2 10 ай бұрын

Tim is a GREAT Teacher! Focused on the message of musicianship: slow down, listen to the sound of your own practice and finally understand what your playing. Thank-you Tim.

@vaughan7835 10 ай бұрын

Good thinking 99... I'm a mid 50s Aussie. Sadly I never learnt much at all when I was young, with no teacher. Just books with songs & chords & watching my older brothers & mates jam at parties & camping trips. I still have my 1st guitar I bought with my 1st wages. A beat up old mid 80s Aria Japan dreadnought. My Favorite band to play along with, rhythm only, was CCR. Now I'm trying to learn through YT teachers, by watching & listening. Marty Music & Justin Guitar etc. My Favorite now is Keef Richards! S R Vaughan is well n truly beyond me! Subscribed, finally! ❤

@1loStu 9 ай бұрын

Being a teacher myself I want to thank You, dear Tim. This is really the BEST and the MOST useful advise what can give an adult teacher to an adult student.

@THEItchybruddah 4 ай бұрын

That was as close to the zen of Bob Ross I ever experienced with instruction. EXCELLENT stuff Maestro. Nobody ever talks about about gently soaking up the data. (Remember folks… The Turtle won the race!)

@amoswu7824 8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Tim. I have to watch this lesson every once in a while to remind myself not to rush.

@jasonkesser 10 ай бұрын

Without meaning to, with the first inversion melody practice, you just blew open new doors for me with connecting triads and scales and chords, thank you man. Changed my practice immediately

@TimLerchGuitar 10 ай бұрын

You might also enjoy my recent YT video on triad scales or my TrueFire course Melodic Triads

@jasonkesser 10 ай бұрын

@@TimLerchGuitar I believe that video is how i ended up being a subscriber buddy, but trust me, I’ll dig through it now. This video totally defined my playing I today, the keys that unlock the doors are sometimes unexpected and weird. Really nice video.

@Michajeru 3 ай бұрын

This is spot-on advice. Wow, I must really take note of this lesson.

@fer7068 10 ай бұрын

Such a great lesson Tim. With this method actually one can achieve anything he wants

@chikung 10 ай бұрын

This is possibly the best lesson I've ever had. But then again, ever since I've encountered your lessons, either at Truefire or here, I've been making sense and music of so many things! Your contribution to the guitar learning world is truly outstnding. Thank you, Tim!!

@uaruss 8 ай бұрын

This is a master class on how to learn. Not simply how to learn guitar, but how to learn anything. How easy it is try to incorporate too much complexity too soon, and we're unable to grow, we stay frustrated, and we eventually give up. There is untold value in your words. Thank you!!

@vKarl71 10 ай бұрын

This is SOOOOOO good. 💯 The thing of not trying to learn too many things in one session is really important.

@VincentBowe 9 ай бұрын

Best advice I've ever been given . Thank you Tim.

@sclg560 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Tim!

@barbermot 10 ай бұрын

Good advice. Took me a long time to realize how much time it takes to learn small things well. Thank you for these videos.

@hcnilsson 10 ай бұрын

Best tip ever Tim, thanks: -Make sure you're enjoying yourself. I'm trying to tell people this: -the most important part is having fun. 🎸

@robertcanedo7607 10 ай бұрын

very sensible approach for an older beginner!.Thanks

@clydesandry5351 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely brilliant. I found this so helpful. Thank you 👍🏻

@JCFern 10 ай бұрын

I needed this. I know the triad basics, but the big lessons I learned here were to: -SLOW DOWN. Really LEARN, digest, understand, and MASTER the lesson -Repetition, consistency and proper form is always better than just trying to learn something new quickly. This is sage advice Mr Lerch. In sidenote, are there any seats left at the Ted Brown Music Tacoma Masterclass? I hope I’m not too late…

@TimLerchGuitar 10 ай бұрын

Yes there are seat available. Hope to see you there.

@JCFern 10 ай бұрын

@@TimLerchGuitar Done. Consider me a student 🙏

@JCFern 10 ай бұрын

I just signed up for your Masterclass! Looking forward to meeting you sir!

@ivankachkovski 5 ай бұрын

Thank you Sir!

@giarebig474 10 ай бұрын

MAN!!!! That's exactly what I tell my students over and over and over and... Hopefully they get more inspired by a KZfaq-star like you are... THANKS A LOT!!! You make my life much easier...

@pjjmsn 10 ай бұрын

Hi Tim, I want to mention that I met you at the Providence Zen Center in Cumberland , RI in the early 2000's. I Used to go there regularly as a visitor on Tuesdays and Thursday evenings to meditate and chant.I also did a 2 day retreat there, wherein I had an important psychological/spiritual breakthrough for me. I remember how spicy the food was during our silent dinner. I didn't know you played guiter then and was surprised to learn what a true master jazz guitarist you are. I also play jazz guitar but on an intermediate level. I am from RI but have since moved to Spain with my wife. I love your playing! Cheers and all the best!!!

@JeremyChildress 9 ай бұрын

You are a good teacher

@MikaelLewisify 10 ай бұрын

My whole life I’ve been beating myself up for not sticking to a regimented practice routine. Nice to hear such an experienced teacher debunking the myth.

@Erschophone 10 ай бұрын

It's not "regimented" but it's VERY organized!

@aeksinsang932 10 ай бұрын

Beat yourself off instead and come sit back down less tense

@donlazov2443 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Tim! Very practical and informative, it’s nice to get someone else’s thoughts on practice in a clear and understanding way, nice and kind love your humbleness and honesty.

@PuddLane3 Ай бұрын

Fantastic job.

@Paul-tk1hg 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Sir! Great lesson!

@fouroutoffour 10 ай бұрын

Tim, this is very helpful advice to hear. In the past year I have drawn a distinction between “learning” and “practicing.” I found that I needed to do WAY more practicing (repetitions) and much less learning (new concepts). Thank you!

@twli 10 ай бұрын

Very thoughtful, thank you

@matsherwood6277 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video. I have played for a long time largely self taught, and have been making some progress as of late but about as quickly as the progress comes, it feels as if I'm stagnating again. This video is encouraging me to really nail down what I've discovered recently instead of rushing to look for the next new breakthrough.

@jeffreymerson8425 10 ай бұрын

#LongLiveTimLerch

@Bflatest 10 ай бұрын

that guitar sounds amazing. Very warm and woodsy clear and defined even and great sustain

@donaldgossett1736 9 ай бұрын

Good advice. First and foremost, learn it the right way the first time. Go slow enough to get it right and then practice in chunks and segments.

@Alan-zi2rs 9 ай бұрын

Thanks Tim. This is how I kinda practice ( no tunes ) then I'll apply to tunes I like what you said ' don't practice mistakes ' 🇬🇧👍🎸🎶🎶🎶

@supasoul 10 ай бұрын

i like the way this lesson came together!!! THE APPROACH IS EVERYTHING!! My big lesson from this post is to *Take the time to slowly get each component accurate and THEN spending the same or more time learning to master each component....rest well... return and consolidate* "Digestable Chunks" only for the next two months HA!

@freddymclain 10 ай бұрын

I needed a good sermon...thank you. I stood at the doorway to success...you helped push me through.

@erlingwesth7055 10 ай бұрын

Hi Tim, thanks for your teaching. It is SO meaningful, and although I have played for many many years, this is se important to me.

@stevecrockett6619 10 ай бұрын

"Live with the sound" Fantastic Tim! When I get to that stage when it feels like I know something...know something well enough to almost make it music and worthy of playing it for someone to listen. Great lesson!

@michaelcope9501 10 ай бұрын

Mr. Lerch, this is among the best videos you’ve produced. Thank you!

@brucejackson1329 10 ай бұрын

That was one of the most profound guitar lessons I have ever had. Thanks for sharing the work/fun that it takes

@Erschophone 10 ай бұрын

4:06 I love how he plays the Bb/D chord "This is a Bb major triad - first inversion" and then at 4:09 and 4:12 his finger gently brushes the open "E" string we hear the regal #11 popping out !

@Paul-tk1hg 9 ай бұрын

Great lesson Mr.Tim! I love the premise of not practicing your mistakes. Thank you!

@CalvinLimSH-ld5le 10 ай бұрын

Guitar constant practice makes perfect in all the things you do, that's why you need to put in the effort to learn things repetitively and become more familiar with the tasks you do. Everyday I still find ways to learn from You tube available resources and put them into practice. Thanks for sharing what you demonstrated best like movable triads.

@RaineyDaysStudio 9 ай бұрын

Words of wisdom

@kisbandi1563 8 ай бұрын

I enjoyed watching this video a lot! I liked how you spoke out all the time, what can be in the learners mind, and how can one improve the mindset of the learner. I also liked the small details, how a learner would experience a new thing: watching, naming, repeating, take a break, check your body... I liked it a lot!

@therealdoug1000 9 ай бұрын

Wonderful advice!

@Dan-Arg 9 ай бұрын

Thank you, I was bouncing between videos and I get some stuff that had in millon papers but now I chase it from you, quicky and nicely. Thx

@noself1028 10 ай бұрын

Thanks so much, Tim! I needed this lesson today, as I’m inclined to be impatient in my practice. I’m well aware of the importance of repetition but tend to get frustrated when I don’t master a particular technique as quickly as I’d like.

@EdgarBowlin 10 ай бұрын

Wow @analogblues9606, that's a long time! I've only been playing 42 years! Tim, thanks so much for your videos! Finally, after all these years, triads in all inversions, partial chords, passing chords, are all coming together for me. The kids are long grown and gone, I'm a software engineer working from home, and my studio is 30 feet from my back door, so I RELAX and practice, learn, and APPLY (digest?) much more effectively than ever before. I appreciate all your videos and latest book very much, you're very kind and an excellent instructor!

@duyle8921 9 ай бұрын

Very helpful. Thank you

@jadreza8182 9 ай бұрын

So down to earth. Thanks for explaining it this way. 👍👍

@vmcelvis 10 ай бұрын

Another great Tim Talk. Just got the internet back and this pops up. Learn it slow/Learn it Right is dead on. Unlearning something is vexing to say the least. Thanks once again for something that is musical/logical and readily applicable to your musical library. #SWEETGUITAR

@jimmygetz9809 10 ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you.

@rafaelreis4490 10 ай бұрын

Tim you are great teacher,Very deep and clear, thanks man👏👏👏

@KristopherCraig 10 ай бұрын

So cool to see you playing a Tim Braun guitar. It sounds lovely! I find this a very interesting topic as I don’t feel I really ever practiced properly in my life. But as a full time professional I feel like I’m constantly learning. But get angry that I’m so lazy. You are always a huge inspiration. Thank you.

@asafnisan 10 ай бұрын

great teacher, great player. love and respect from istanbul.

@mkusch2337 10 ай бұрын

Great words of wisdom. Thank you for sharing!

@jrghansen25 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Tim for this precious lesson! Always benefit from listening to you and adore you music

@TimLerchGuitar 10 ай бұрын

Thank you

@MrSonicAlchemy 9 ай бұрын

Great lesson and a great reminder to slow the learning process down and make sure you really know the new material you are working on before moving on to something else. Thank you!

@jallor 10 ай бұрын

Beautiful simple lesson!

@denisbarrette192 9 ай бұрын

Yes, this has been a very practical way to improve my practicing each day, thanks for opening my mind

@leadcatpress 10 ай бұрын

Great lesson and thoughts! I've found that a regimented practice routine can be very helpful for learning certain concepts like chord tones and reading (especially for adult learners), and the "practice to playing" routine you outlined here works perfectly for the harmonic device you teach in this video. When I was teaching at Seattle University, I was challenged to find the fastest and most effective ways to get our guitar students caught up to the other music students in the program, which I did, but I would tell each student when they graduated that their real practice actually begins now. Thanks for offering those hard working students the real deal here. Cheers!

@TimLerchGuitar 10 ай бұрын

Hi Susan, glad to hear from you. Hope you are well and happy.

@leadcatpress 10 ай бұрын

@@TimLerchGuitar Thanks for taking time, and yes, that is my wish for all of us. ❤

@thesongwritersdropin2565 10 ай бұрын

Thanks ,Tim . This is a great video. I'm exploring triads at the moment and I'm practicing pretty much what you're doing here with some things you pointed out which were overlooked . Thanks for filling in the gaps here. 🎸🙂🙏

@captainkangaroo4301 10 ай бұрын

“If we program our brain to make mistakes we will make mistakes”. It applies in all of life.

@GByePorkPieHat 8 ай бұрын

This is a BIG impact lesson. Thanks!

@blufordbirdsong1834 10 ай бұрын

Such a great teacher! Always look forward to your videos. I heard one of the great jazz players admit that he usually took about 6 months to incorporate something new in his playing, that helped me understand how long it really takes for something to truly become part of my vocabulary.

@Riverdeepnwide 10 ай бұрын

What treasure! Thank you Tim.

@rexroman5211 9 ай бұрын

Brilliant 😊

@wojtektomaszewski4234 10 ай бұрын

Absolutely great lesson in terms of approach to learn, repeat and internalize new ideas. I like the logical way of your explanations and putting your attention on a good sound as well. Appreciate that, it helps a lot. Thank you Tim!

@slampig72 10 ай бұрын

Great advice and instruction here. My sensei imparts these same strategies to all of his students. It made a huge difference for me in terms of time spent not only learning new information, but also retaining it. Thanks for this!!!

@barrysebastian9584 10 ай бұрын

Sage advice! Thanks, Tim👍😁

@va3ux 9 ай бұрын

This is excellent advice and it works. George Van Eps would approve.

@bigbokiptd 10 ай бұрын

This is such an amazing video and advice Tim, thank you so so much. I was struggling with exactly this issue and I felt kind of what I was doing wrong (learning too much in too short period), but could never properly devise how to escape it. Your instructions just opened "the gate of joy of learning" again for me. THANK YOU

@skeres01 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for another very valuable piece of knowledge for all us aspiring guitar players.

@arentakaishi710 10 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot man! This is gold, this video is full of wisdom. Appreciate this video a lot. I would love for you to keep on making these kind of vids man. Take care!

@marvinrudd5268 10 ай бұрын

Great lesson and beautiful guitar

@kennywally 9 ай бұрын

This is all you need to know. UNDERSTAND what you are playing. Knowledge.

@dougnickerson 9 ай бұрын

Excellent

@ZacisBadatGuitar 10 ай бұрын

As a boy all I wanted to do was grind shred lines. Now that I'm a family man I use my practice time more wisely. Switching it up is very important. I will always be passionate about grinding difficult parts, but I could also learn a new song, study some theory, do some transcribing, or be creative and write something.

@jordanalexander436 10 ай бұрын

Awesome …thanks

@andytimmonsguitarx-perienc7391 10 ай бұрын

Lovely video Tim...thanks for your wisdom ❤

@TimLerchGuitar 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for stopping by Andy, I hope you are well and doing wonderful things.

@TrebleTrouble115 10 ай бұрын

Hey Tim, lovely principles as always. Would you be interested in making a video applying this same concept but to transcriptions? Solos, melodies, chords... it's always nice seeing how to squeeze the most juice out of any given piece of information!

@photoguy4212 9 ай бұрын

You rip, Tim. So inspiring. I’ve been learning triads and this gives me so much direction. Your playing is beautiful. Thank you immensely for posting this lesson.