Just a quick comparison of my old AT and my Buddy's T7. I rode them back to back on a very muddy and sandy trail. 0:00 - Intro 0:28 - T7 Ride 2:57 - AT Ride 6:14 - DRAG RACE 6:57 - My thoughts between the two
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@antesifner357418 күн бұрын
Bought the T7 as a first bike. Love it, especially when you get used to it, now it fits me like a glove.
@TyTriestoRide2 жыл бұрын
Just the sound when you switched to the AT brought a smile to my face. And I hear it everyday LOL.
@OgreMoto2 жыл бұрын
They sound identical honestly, it’s just that his AT is modified now lol
@benjiesmith17912 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison! I've never ridden the t7 or a African twin! Watched a lots of videos. I'm bike poor roadking, cbr1000rr, versys 300x and wr250r if I had to get rid of all but one I'm keeping my wr just fun and enjoyable!
@thunderbear02 жыл бұрын
I like T7 more it have special spot in my heart love that thing But if i need bigger adv i would go for AT instead of GS And another thing is T7 is clean from all the electronics meanwhile AT is filled with all the electronics you can imagine IMO T7 is true ADV and have enough power that is comfortable in sand and dirt and other offroading stuff and also good enough on roads and highways meanwhile you can't ride AT in tricky offroad because of stupidly over power that you need electronic assistance to get it in control and i really hope honda will make similar thing like T7 with balanced power with no electronics Saying this as a fan of yamaha honda and kawasaki im enthusiastic about their bikes
@elmorgie85522 жыл бұрын
Wow, just for the sound of it, I'd pick the AT! So savage and brutal! hehe
@kevkev91682 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. There's different category regarding bikes. Like you said you choose your wr250 because it does great on dirt, but try to take that on street and cross country. Thats where the T7 and AT comes in. It all depend what's you're into and get that bike accordingly.
@christopherbeddoe406 Жыл бұрын
If Honda releases the Transalp 750 in the USA this next year I would have to consider that. Otherwise I'm planning on the Tenere 700. I looked at the Tuareg 660 but the nearest dealer is like 300 miles away and I'm alittle nervous about possible reliability issues. seems like they have lots of seal/gasket leaks on that Aprilia 660 motor. Really dumb stuff they shouldn't have to worry about. The Africa Twin looks great but is heavier and costs 50% more.
@mobydick126 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this match. I am short rider on experience and long on size 6'2". I ride a MY16 AT, manual, and love it. As I go further on off road I feel the weight of the AT, although it is very nimble. I tried the T7 and it feels lighter, it fits my size (as the AT does), it has (more than) enough power for my skills, but.... I am considering a swap, because I usually ride more and more off road and I need to improve my skills. Each drop on the AT scares my bank account, and my doctor as there are no more spares for my bones. But, when going for my rides there is always some road miles to go and back, sometimes on highway. Then, surely the AT is superior to the T7 and I would regret loosing it. So, my doubt right now is: a) swap the AT for a T7 as a "do it all" bike; or b) keep the AT and buy a training mule for offroading. This last option brings another problem: I can't fit on a DRZ. I tried one (not fitted to tall rider's) and couldn't feel it easier than the AT. Or a XT 650? Would love to have your opinions about which bike would fit as a training mule for tall guys.
@Grwsport11 ай бұрын
At e una vecchia beta o ktm 525 per il fuori strada...
@mobydick12611 ай бұрын
Finally, i went for an old DRZ400E. With a bar raiser it is fine. I am loving it. Definitely I am improoving my skills and confidence level to go harder with the AT that I keep for longer travels.
@adamanderson88382 жыл бұрын
Got my leg over the twin this past weekend & it was huge!! Way to big fir my skill set off road. T7 is going to push me to learn real quick.
@rodirsno2 жыл бұрын
Africa Twin and an old thumper. The twin is a legend reborn I cant get rid off. Parts are double priced than that of the Yam. it is heavier. But just as heavy as its father. So it is fine with me. Crashed into a deer and the twin survived. If a Tenere does that I'll get one. Just messing. All the experience I have had with the AT makes it impossible to sell it. Emotional value is a thing.
@johnnybigood47082 жыл бұрын
I love both, I was all Africa twin, then I saw how good and less gadgetry the T7 has so I was all T7, now from your video I'm all Africa twin again haha I'm 6,2 so I'm good either way, but the sound of the Africa twin does it for me so I'm all Africa twin, BUT, it will boil down to price, all though the sound of the Africa twin will always win for me and it's looks, I need to watch more reviews on both, but I'm now thinking I'm going to be going for the Africa twin, that sound is heavenly everything else I can work with and adapt to. ooohh decisions decisions.
@RChero10102 жыл бұрын
The t7 can also sound comparable depending on exhaust choice. I have no clue but it may have had a stock can in this video, idk
@TRAVERSE_ADV4 ай бұрын
No contest once you put it across all surfaces. The bike needs some tweaking for anyone over 6ft but once setup its great.
@ciocanelwar2 жыл бұрын
I would choose the Honda if it would be thinner. As it is if nothing new is announced at EICMA I will have to choose between the T700 with it's infinite mods or the Ducati Desert X (got to test both). Price wise The T700 would bring me at around 14.000/15.000 EUR without the fuel pouches that mount on the crashbars. The Desert X around 17.000 EUR or more. The Ducati has awsome power, feels great on trails and it's not as wide as a honda nor as slim as a T700, it's somewhat in the middle. Ride it if you can.
@KentwoodWarrior2 жыл бұрын
I liked both. Liked the Yamaha more, felt like it had more character. Overall the WR250 is king tho lol. What insight and info did you have regarding the chassis on the 3 in comparison?
@OgreMoto2 жыл бұрын
Chassis on the WR is by far the most stout between the 3. It’s really thick, solid aluminum. Plus the suspension on the WR is better than both these bikes too. On paper and by feel imo. The T7 and AT just have a tubular steel chassis like KTM’s do, nothing too special and it’s just the cheapest to manufacture of the 3. The only difference between them and the Kato’s is that there’s a thicker chunk of steel behind the engine cradle. Probably helps with steering head warp over time like KTM dirtbikes experience.
@OgreMoto2 жыл бұрын
Ironic that the cheap, low maintenance dual sport has the best frame, both in materials and function.
@whoscook44812 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed
@someguy50352 жыл бұрын
Had a 2020 AT. Took out the SAs. Sounded awesome.
@stevemalcolm93332 жыл бұрын
What SAs?
@someguy50352 жыл бұрын
@@stevemalcolm9333 Spark arrestors.
@LizardMane2 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for my husqvarna 701 it probably would have been one of these 2 bikes for me
@kyjelly55242 жыл бұрын
I’m torn on these. The t7 would be better for in town and trails but the AT would be better with a passenger and long distance. I have a drz now, I can keep that for the harder stuff. The T7 will probably keep me out of trouble too lol. The faster the bike is the faster I ride.
@Asdfghjkl12342 жыл бұрын
I was debating between the 2 and bought the africa twin adventure sport and am so happy I did - especially of you have the drz already.
@Fire101802 жыл бұрын
My t7 gets me in trouble lol
@kyjelly55242 жыл бұрын
@@Fire10180 how do you like it? Have you done a long ride in 1 day ? I need a bike that I can ride all day and be somewhat comfortable too. I’d like to be able to do 200-250 miles in a day and not hate life lol. I did 110 on my drz and I was beat. That’s expected though. The drz sucks on the freeway. I’ll only go a few exits before I get off. I don’t want to kill my bike.
@Fire101802 жыл бұрын
@@kyjelly5524 I’ve had a couple 200+ mile days. It handles it just fine, seat is optimized for trail riding rather than comfort though. Good thing ab them though is you can just stand up and stretch out when you inevitably get sore. It’s my first bike so I really don’t have much to compare it to but it’s been a total dream. I love it. Hopefully that’s helpful to you, sorry I took so long to reply
@kyjelly55242 жыл бұрын
@@Fire10180 thank you. The T7 looks awesome. It’s so hard to find too.
@IAmYourReflection2 жыл бұрын
What exhaust is on the Africa twin and is it tuned or have an aftermarket fuel commander or such?
@OgreMoto2 жыл бұрын
Stock exhaust with spark arrester removed and a reflashed ECU tune.
@IAmYourReflection2 жыл бұрын
@@OgreMoto that’s it? Was the cat removed? It sounds mean
@OgreMoto2 жыл бұрын
@@IAmYourReflection that’s it! Cat is still on there! 270° crank motors just sound good. T7 with an exhaust would sound the same!
@IAmYourReflection2 жыл бұрын
@@OgreMoto I have a 2017 manual with akropovic(baffles in, with baffles out it’s to raspy and poppy), and it doesn’t sound near that mean. How much difference did the tune make in performance…And was it local thing or something that can be sent in and reflashed?
@OgreMoto2 жыл бұрын
@@IAmYourReflection he bought the tuner that flashes your ECU and you can choose your tune. I didn’t notice much of a power difference, but I did notice it’s much smoother not with a much more linear power curve.
@6806goats1 Жыл бұрын
You forgot the DR...where's the Doctor? Haaa. First it was KLR vs DR. Then looking at suspension costs, other mods and power it was like ok, spend a bit more for the T7. Then it's hearing the AT roar like a lion which sounds awesome. But then it comes back around to you'll always have to do suspension work if your old and fat like me plus adding a larger fuel tank on the DR and T7. It just never ends does it. Spreadsheet time to determine full cost. Oh I should probably mention I don't ride off-road yet and need to learn. Why would I go beyond the DR for a first bike? Add the bigger tank, drop the front gear a tooth, go with better suspension, warranty expires then do the carb and air cleaner mods. Later go for the 790 kit, big head, exhaust. Then I'm back into the T7 price range. At least the T7 has adjustable suspension even if the spring are too light. Bla bla bla old man, STFU.
@MrCaptainCrazy2 жыл бұрын
Wonder how DR650 compares to both of them, off-road?
@OgreMoto2 жыл бұрын
DR650 would obviously be more robust and probably better in the really loose and mucky stuff, but I’d rather be on one of these over a DR simply because they fit me better height wise.
@grego10r2 жыл бұрын
t7 kickk ass sold my 17 at for it best so far and its not slow at all race my body on hes at dead even on street
@jlboiria18067 ай бұрын
AT 2017...¿?
@areess62092 жыл бұрын
T7 vs the 701 Enduro.
@OgreMoto2 жыл бұрын
Would love to, but sadly I don’t have access to a 701. It’s a totally different beast anyways!
@Moey11211 ай бұрын
Dude with T7 you drive slow like a schoolgirl and wit the AT you spin the gashandle, why you didn't do that with with the T7
@OgreMoto11 ай бұрын
Because the AT used to be mine and had many scratches and dents whereas the T7 was brand new and not mine.
@4ndr3w702 жыл бұрын
Why swear to then cut it out?
@OgreMoto2 жыл бұрын
yes
@paveldimitrov57382 жыл бұрын
Why the hell would you compare bikes with 400cc and $8,000 difference??? -1
@OgreMoto2 жыл бұрын
Because they’re in roughly the same class and I bought that Africa Twin for $9.7k OTD. They’re pretty similar to each other in a lot of ways. The AT feels very similar when riding off road. Give ‘em both a try someone when you can.