Tenerife Airport Disaster | Deadliest Crash in Aviation History

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Pilot Pulse

Pilot Pulse

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On March 27, 1977, KLM flight 4805 departs Schipol Airport, in Amsterdam, with 3 pilots: Captain Jacob Veldhuyzen van Zanten, first officer Klaas Meurs and flight engineer Willem Schreuder. With Gran Canaria as their main destination, they receive information of a terrorist attack and they are forced to divert to Los Rodeos airport (Tenerife North). Another flight that joined them was Pan Am flight 1736, which were on a flight from Los Angeles to Gran Canaria with a stop at New York. The 3 pilots on board were Captain Victor Grubbs, First Officer Robert Bragg and Flight Engineer George Warns.
Eventually Gran Canaria reopened so both flights began preparations for the short hop to Gran Canaria. The first flight to depart was KLM 747, who were instructed to taxi down runway 12 and make a 180º turn to line up onto runway 30. This procedure is also known as a runway backtrack. The Pan Am 747 would then follow the KLM aircraft onto the runway, and exit via taxiway C3, and use the parallel taxiway to taxi to the runway.
However, as the Pan Am pilots entered the runway, the visibility turned from 500 meters to 100 meters. As they were taxiing, they were unsure as to whether the controller had said C1 or C3 and were then struggling to identify the exit through the thick and dense fog. At this stage, neither of the jumbo jets can see each other and the air traffic controller had no idea of the series of events that were about to unfold.
As the KLM aircraft lined up, the captain began applying take-off power, before realising that they did not have a clearance. The pilots and air traffic control exchanged communications regarding the clearance, and were then told to standby for the take-off clearance. This last message was never received (due to interference), and the KLM aircraft began rolling for take-off. Soon after, the controller asks the Pan Am crew to call when they have cleared the runway. The flight engineer on the KLM 747 hears this and raises the alarm with the Captain, who immediately dismisses him.
Seconds from collision, the Pan Am aircraft identifies the 747 through the fog and makes a desperate attempt to get off the runway as quickly as possible. Meanwhile the KLM aircraft attempts to perform an early rotation, causing a tailstrike for a distance of 20 meters and only just gets into the air. The aircraft nose clears the Pan Am aircraft but the right engines slam onto the forward part of the fuselage, just behind the cockpit. The main gear hits the center of the fuselage while the left engines destroy the empennage. The KLM aircraft manages to take-off for a moment but it becomes completely unflyable and crashes 150 meters later and slides down 300 meters of runway.
The aircraft, filled to the brim with fuel, almost instantly ignites. All 248 passengers and crew in the KLM aircraft and 335 passengers in the Pan Am aircraft perish. 61 people on the Pan Am aircraft, including the flight crew, manage to survive, escaping through the left wing of the aircraft and openings on the fuselage. The visibility from the tower was very poor, so the air traffic controller had no idea of what had just happened, and could only hear two explosions, one after the other.
A massive investigation quickly got under way involving all three countries involved as well as both airlines, revealing the sequence of events that led to this disaster.
Credits:
KLM 747 taking off - Aviation NZ
Gran Canaria Airport, Flickr - Stefan Ekström
Airport footage, Creative Commons - g4shf
747-400 Cabin from Row 60, Flickr - Paulo O
KC-130J footage, Creative Commons - USMCairAFG
Performance graph, 747SP Airplane Characteristics document - Boeing
Simulator 737-800 flight, Creative Commons - Emmanuel Chaligné
United Airlines 757 Takeoff, Creative Commons - PDX Aviation
Heathrow aircraft time-lapse landing, Creative Commons - Cargospotter
Pan Am 747-121, Flickr - clipperarctic
Ground radar station, Creative Commons - Ynterstella
747 CAT IIIB landing, The Pilot Channel
Final Report - Netherlands Aviation Safety Board
747 explosion photo - David Alexander - www.amazon.co.uk/Never-Wait-F...

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@franevodopija9501
@franevodopija9501 3 жыл бұрын
ironic how the worst aviation accident happened on ground
@mauriciolacruz
@mauriciolacruz 3 жыл бұрын
Well, most of the accidents, as far as I know, occur during take-offs and landings.
@anisaguine
@anisaguine 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicky2204 actually there are a few cases of mid air collisions, and depending on how you define accident, mid air equipment or structural failures.
@23hublock1
@23hublock1 3 жыл бұрын
Until a fully loaded A380 crashes...it will happen, it's when....not if.
@mauriciolacruz
@mauriciolacruz 3 жыл бұрын
@@23hublock1 Nobody knows. Not all models of airplanes have suffered accidents.
@Bungle2010
@Bungle2010 3 жыл бұрын
Take off and landing are the most risky part of a flight.
@THEC.O.VISIT.
@THEC.O.VISIT. 3 жыл бұрын
Ah the 70's, what a time to fly. Captains who ignored commands, airports without land radar equipment, unprepared emergency response teams, ah yes.
@kathleenann631
@kathleenann631 3 жыл бұрын
Wondering who was on that flight?
@luciusquinctiuscincinnatus2058
@luciusquinctiuscincinnatus2058 3 жыл бұрын
Everything has a constructive curve. Imagine the eye surgeries back in the 1800s. We always stand on the shoulders of those who suffered in the past. More so with the aviation industry.
@wolfman515
@wolfman515 3 жыл бұрын
The good old days, good times for 'almost' everyone.
@kinghans6266
@kinghans6266 3 жыл бұрын
How boring today, where you get in lots of trouble for simple stuff.
@lazydaisee3997
@lazydaisee3997 3 жыл бұрын
And everyone smoked and got drunk
@AM-rd4vc
@AM-rd4vc 3 жыл бұрын
My mom, Encarnación Pons, a commercial airline pilot for 23 years, was the air hostess who had to work during this flight. Before becoming a pilot, she worked as an air hostess for 10 years, and she was stationed in Tenerife. She received a call that day asking to please come and board because she was an English speaker, and the other air hostess who spoke English was ill and asked to stay at home. When she was at the airport, the other girl said she was feeling better and asked to work for that day instead. While my mom was driving her Mini Cooper back to her house, she witnessed the plane crashing into pieces. I always feel how close I was to not exist. I would not be here today writing this if my mom had worked that day almost 50 years ago.
@jenniferadam8052
@jenniferadam8052 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@haahmayan9637
@haahmayan9637 Жыл бұрын
I got shivers reading this 🥵🥶
@wisheduknew294
@wisheduknew294 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Since chills up your spine. It’s sad that the other lady had to die. But I’m glad that your mother lived and that you’re here!!! 😊 Isn’t that funny to think about, Erie funny!
@ssarmazi
@ssarmazi Жыл бұрын
Holy cow!
@combokingz8623
@combokingz8623 Жыл бұрын
its 1997. 26 years actually
@Great16
@Great16 3 жыл бұрын
NEVER underestimate the power of miscommunication.
@Woozler554
@Woozler554 3 жыл бұрын
Great 16 - Miscommunication hell. There was no "miscommunication" at all. The plane NEVER had clearance to take off. The KLM pilot was an arrogant bastard who decided he could disregard rules.
@Great16
@Great16 3 жыл бұрын
@@Woozler554 yeah
@rileywhalen6554
@rileywhalen6554 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly this reminds from the plane crash in Breaking Bad.
@aspiringcaptain
@aspiringcaptain 3 жыл бұрын
That causes a lot of issues, almost anywhere
@Woozler554
@Woozler554 3 жыл бұрын
@@aspiringcaptain But as I stated above, there was no "miscommunication" at all. That plane NEVER had clearance to take off. It was entirely the fault of the arrogant KLM pilot.
@filthywings353
@filthywings353 3 жыл бұрын
Technically all plane crashes change aviation history, that’s how crashes became so infrequent.
@robertfeeley9738
@robertfeeley9738 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, Crashes are 95 percent human error.
@marianandnorbert
@marianandnorbert 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertfeeley9738 technically it’s 100% human error, because humans also designed the systems and airframes, so every crash that has caused is also originally human error
@nclsDesign
@nclsDesign 3 жыл бұрын
@@marianandnorbert That's not how human error is defined
@vectro4284
@vectro4284 3 жыл бұрын
@@marianandnorbert Human error as in the here and now. This means the humans which have to work with the systems and protocols they have been given and obeying them.
@afoxwithahat7846
@afoxwithahat7846 3 жыл бұрын
@@marianandnorbert Some were caused by material fatigue, which is not caused by humans. Every material suffers from this
@petcatznz
@petcatznz 3 жыл бұрын
KLM captain ignores all departure protocols and his flight engineer's advice in thick fog, what could possibly go wrong!
@edsnotgod
@edsnotgod 3 жыл бұрын
The Pam Am building in NYC was near trump plaza and the WTC, so it's all Trump's fault
@barterchimera1abrams229
@barterchimera1abrams229 3 жыл бұрын
@@edsnotgod you got to be joking
@edsnotgod
@edsnotgod 3 жыл бұрын
@@barterchimera1abrams229 there's no other sane and rational "explaination"
@barterchimera1abrams229
@barterchimera1abrams229 3 жыл бұрын
@@edsnotgod Trump plaza wasn’t built until 1982 you need to do some research on your history bud before you open your mouth
@willemlenteren1485
@willemlenteren1485 3 жыл бұрын
V Zanten fault
@wafflehorse1423
@wafflehorse1423 3 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for these people they died from miscommunication and impatience you guys don’t have to like this comment just give those passengers and workers who died respect
@Mark-yy2py
@Mark-yy2py 3 жыл бұрын
And incompetence
@alioumaiga6116
@alioumaiga6116 3 жыл бұрын
And mostly poor visibility
@G1NZOU
@G1NZOU 3 жыл бұрын
@@alioumaiga6116 Not mostly, modern plane flight training focuses on being able to fly by instrumentation and traffic control instruction, that's why they can fly in pitch black at night, if the communication was done properly and the plane hadn't tried to take off before they 100% knew they had clearance this would never had happened. Similar communication mishaps have caused similar crashes in perfect visibility.
@apolakigamingandmore6376
@apolakigamingandmore6376 3 жыл бұрын
@@G1NZOU Actually, Visibility is also a thing, If the visibility is good, then the KLM Pilots will see the other plane.
@G1NZOU
@G1NZOU 3 жыл бұрын
@@apolakigamingandmore6376 I never denied visibility wasn't a thing, but modern flying techniques and air traffic control is supposed to be followed so just visibility isn't relied on. Since the visibility was bad, the crew should have been extra diligent about knowing exactly what they're supposed to be doing according to direction from the tower, and be 100% sure that the runway is clear.
@loetjeabc3140
@loetjeabc3140 2 жыл бұрын
It’s scary to realize my grandmother and grandfather would be on the KLM flight but just that morning they got a call with the question if they wanted to take a plane later because it was overbooked. They accepted it and took a flight later. And when this accident was on the news my mom and her siblings thought there parents where dead. Can’t believe how happy they where when they heard their parents took a flight later. They’ve been so so so lucky.
@user-mc6vi8yd7l
@user-mc6vi8yd7l 2 жыл бұрын
🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
@sharkief1
@sharkief1 2 жыл бұрын
top 10 things that didn’t happen
@Zylix08
@Zylix08 2 жыл бұрын
The people above this reply have trust issues
@sharkief1
@sharkief1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zylix08 correct, but i dont trust you
@skiptowne5724
@skiptowne5724 2 жыл бұрын
No such thing as "luck". Everything happens for a reason.
@mdaniels6311
@mdaniels6311 3 жыл бұрын
It's so frustrating seeing such levels of human stupidity
@CelestisForgeUK
@CelestisForgeUK 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the early and “primitive” protocol for communication is also to blame. As explained at the end. Clear for takeoff, standby for takeoff, ready to takeoff, can sound very similar on a radio especially in that time, which can easily lead to misunderstandings in communication. This is why a set, strict standard for communication is so important.
@tjp1451
@tjp1451 3 жыл бұрын
Geezuz are you not used to it by now? Every time I leave the house I seem to run into someone dumber than the one from the previous day.
@Woozler554
@Woozler554 3 жыл бұрын
@@CelestisForgeUK There was NO "misunderstanding" in communication!!!! The pilot proceeded to take off before be got final clearance. That was IT!!! PERIOD!!!!
@TheTonyspoons
@TheTonyspoons 3 жыл бұрын
@@Woozler554 dude, do some human factors training, it's never just one thing. Period.
@Woozler554
@Woozler554 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheTonyspoons DUDE, do some logic training. It's never just one thing? Funny, the system worked for 100s of thousands of other pilots and flights at the time. This SOB decides to ignore this one thing and 583 people get killed. There was no "comedy of errors" here, DUDE. If this arrogant SOB had followed the rules, the accident NEVER would have happened. PERIOD.
@frankiecrocker
@frankiecrocker 2 жыл бұрын
It's still unfathomable how the KLM captain was so situationally unaware. With all of the adverse conditions present, he literally threw caution in the air and caused over 500 deaths!
@carlmaster9690
@carlmaster9690 2 жыл бұрын
It was because he was used to training new KLM pilots in the pilot training simulator, which doesn't require ATC Clearance or real world consequences when something goes wrong like a crash.
@jasonvoorhees6152
@jasonvoorhees6152 10 ай бұрын
​@@carlmaster9690 but it's also because of Dutch law that put the captain under pressure.
@Cohdiboi
@Cohdiboi 3 жыл бұрын
Weather was so bad the rescue crew couldn’t even tell a second plane was burning, but apparently that didn’t keep KLM from trying to take off?
@FunTimeGhz
@FunTimeGhz 3 жыл бұрын
They waited for hours, & the pilot was out of his work time already so his patience ran out.
@supresso8313
@supresso8313 3 жыл бұрын
@@FunTimeGhz But they get paid hourly and with a salary, i do not remember when the hourly part starts tho so yeah maybe
@sonalsaxena22
@sonalsaxena22 3 жыл бұрын
I think there was a miscommunication and due to weather, the message couldn't be recieved
@tylerdurden639
@tylerdurden639 3 жыл бұрын
Instrument certifications allow you to do things like that. Fog and restricted visibility only require that you have reliable instruments. Runways are a constant. Visibility doesn't alter the runway direction or length. If you get the right indicators, you can take off in a plane with zero visibility.
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 3 жыл бұрын
They should have closed the airport once the dense fog rolled all over the place. But nobody wanted to take that decision. I was a kid in elementary school at the time and when I heard about the disaster, I drew a picture of two jumbo jets colliding. The only elements that I understood about the whole taxiing thing was that one the jets was in between taxiway and runway. So the only logical conclusion I drew was that that plane was coming off the taxiway onto the runway. Because never could I have understood at that age, that they had to use the runway as taxiway. It's easy to blame the Dutch Captain but do you really think he didn't care about killing himself and hundreds of passengers? If one man breaks the rules in the system and the entire system collapses, it means the system wasn't safe to begin with. Also, there were only two (2) controllers at the airport because there was an important football match on television. In other countries, they would have called in all available hands because with all the international flights diverted to this small, regional airport, it was an emergency situation to begin with.
@ellenwinslet
@ellenwinslet 2 жыл бұрын
Every time you fly and land and get off safely you owe your life to people who died in accidents before you flew.
@HANKSANDY69420
@HANKSANDY69420 Жыл бұрын
Ig so.
@borstenpinsel
@borstenpinsel Жыл бұрын
And to people who think about risks (but are often shunned as nay-sayers and pessimists). Corporate greed is the reason why some safety measures are only applied after something happens even though a system existed already
@JoeJohnson-mk4qd
@JoeJohnson-mk4qd Жыл бұрын
@@HANKSANDY69420 that was exactly my response
@HANKSANDY69420
@HANKSANDY69420 Жыл бұрын
@@JoeJohnson-mk4qd lol
@MiguelRodriguez-ob4pg
@MiguelRodriguez-ob4pg 10 ай бұрын
Eh
@bayofbengal7170
@bayofbengal7170 3 жыл бұрын
The captain of the KLM was under pressure to leave the airport to avoid being stranded at the airport. The captain did not wanted to get in trouble with the management of KLM if the airline ended up paying for the overnight stay of the crews and passengers because the captain couldn’t leave the airport, this played a key role in KLM captain’s decision to leave the airport at any cost.
@christopherwarsh
@christopherwarsh 3 жыл бұрын
There were a LOT of factors in the KLM pilot becoming so focused on departing over everything else. It probably didn’t help that he was ‘always right’ for so long, since he was KLM’s #1 pilot… listening to the radios, it also sounds like the Tenerife ATC was overwhelmed and should have taken things slowly instead of trying to expedite when the workload got WAY above what they probably ever did there.
@Woozler554
@Woozler554 3 жыл бұрын
Bay Bengal - Trading the lives of 583 people to save some hotel costs. Great decision.
@Wildstar40
@Wildstar40 3 жыл бұрын
van Zanten was the head pilot and posterboy for KLM. If he was late they really would not care so much as apposed to losing a plane full of passengers and facing lawsuits over it.
@christopherwarsh
@christopherwarsh 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wildstar40 That is obviously not the case. van Zanten ignored any sense of "chill because it's a unfortunate circumstance" and was trying to will his way to perfection. And he paid the price with 100's of lives. I'm sure KLM wouldn't have cared now since they obviously see what happens when you cut corners. Unfortunately though it took a case like this to force airlines to look more at the safety factors then just the bottom line.
@dratelectasis
@dratelectasis 3 жыл бұрын
He was one of KLMs most famous pilots. He was simply arrogant
@tiggasgaminghd4992
@tiggasgaminghd4992 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being that flight engineer warning the captain on KLM. Has to be the biggest *I told you so* in history
@rp7r54
@rp7r54 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@janicenicholls5924
@janicenicholls5924 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't have time to say,"I told you so!"
@diegopalos886
@diegopalos886 3 жыл бұрын
So basically it was caused due to an arrogant captain who didn't care about taking precautions...... didn't care he was responsible for many lives.
@amelieholbrook3001
@amelieholbrook3001 3 жыл бұрын
If you read up on this incident rather than taking all of your info from a random KZfaq video, you'd know that it was much more complicated than that. It wasn't just a problem with a person, it was a problem with systems and fragmented decisionmaking across relevant institutions. Seriously, if you're interested, the actual story portrays a perfect storm of factors that came into play on that terrible day.
@thepsychologist8159
@thepsychologist8159 3 жыл бұрын
@@amelieholbrook3001 Perhaps, but having worked in risk management for many years I've taken a great interest in this tragic accident and have researched it in detail. @diego palos is correct in saying the accident was caused by an arrogant captain. In consideration of all those 'perfect storm' factors you suggest, the KLM captain should have been ever more vigilant in trying to mitigate those factors and it's evident from the investigations he didn't. Heck, even when the KLM's flight engineer warns the captain of the message from Pan Am at the initial take-off roll, he dismisses it (arrogance). If he had of powered-down right then, the accident would not have occurred. Further, the investigation suggests the KLM pilot was somewhat in a rush and ordered a re-fueling of the aircraft to avoid another stop-over due to flight hours. So it would seem, those 'perfect storm' factors were really those going on in the head of the KLM captain which clouded his better judgement (and I say 'better judgement' because he was an experienced pilot and Snr captain of KLM).
@Auron710
@Auron710 3 жыл бұрын
@@thepsychologist8159 Is arrogance the correct word though? because it does not strike me as arrogance, more careless and leap before looking. I am sure he also does not want to die. Its careless, stupid and not performing his job safely but i don't know, arrogant does not feel the right word
@survivingchicago5797
@survivingchicago5797 3 жыл бұрын
@@Auron710 be sure to let us know when you think you found the right word
@insaBordeNation
@insaBordeNation 3 жыл бұрын
van Zanten is 100% responsible for ALL of the deaths. He will forever be remembered as the worst pilot in aviation history. He has NO equal. A disgrace to the profession.
@farulahmed7644
@farulahmed7644 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve read so many aircraft accidents… i’ve found one thing common… every time there’s one person who decided to ignore a threat call(an order) just due to lack of patience…! Lots of lives due to someone’s ignorance
@iceylore7767
@iceylore7767 3 жыл бұрын
Time means money... If they were to delay, they'd lose money. In our dystopic hypercapitalistic world, that would be enough to get the pilots fired. Poor man just wants to keep his job so he doesn't starve.
@sincerelysof
@sincerelysof 3 жыл бұрын
@@iceylore7767 right! “poor man” didn’t have to worry about starving after that flight💀
@Amm17ar
@Amm17ar 3 жыл бұрын
Something not spoken about is often the pilots, especially back in the day, were under a lot of pressure to make good time and arrive on time. It was a big thing and they would get in trouble for delays, often even if the delays werent theyre fault. Airlines used to and still do lose a lot of money for being delayed. It may not be an excuse for disregarding orders or ignoring a second opinion but its worth noting. In this case the KLM pilot was already significantly behind due to the rerouting and decision to refuel. If I remember correctly, they had another flight that day and if they didnt take off as soon as possible due to pilot rest management procedures back in the day, they wouldnt have been able to fly their second flight (I forget where the flight was to or how many hours they had already logged in order to have that cap met) I just remember from Mayday documentary on Discovery channel that the captain was under pressure to take of ASAP. Again not an excuse at all but a little bit more udnerstanding why he was in a rush and also does beg the question airlines had in pressuring their staff to meet time quotas.
@BettinaBalser
@BettinaBalser 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best video I have seen about this crash.
@terrythekittieful
@terrythekittieful 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. I think it was Air Crash Investigations that delved into it a lot more deeply. That was a good 45-50 minutes devoted to the tragedy. I would recommend that. This video is okay but it's just skimming the surface. The KLM pilot was a bit of authoritarian figure, he was in a mad rush to get off the ground. That was the final box tick to a terrible tragedy.
@Nnvjdj
@Nnvjdj 3 жыл бұрын
@@terrythekittieful shut up and go
@aqpatt4675
@aqpatt4675 3 жыл бұрын
@@terrythekittieful there's also a great short documentary made by the Spanish public television which includes interviews with the controller and some members of the Pan-Am crew, and also the real radio communications with both planes but unfortunately it's only available in Spanish, however the auto-generated subs make a decent job: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zs2qgNRquqmqdqc.html
@terrythekittieful
@terrythekittieful 3 жыл бұрын
@@aqpatt4675 Thanks for that my friend.
@christopherwarsh
@christopherwarsh 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nnvjdj a little sour are we?
@hayabusa-iii9282
@hayabusa-iii9282 3 жыл бұрын
K.L.M. regulations and the impatience of the Dutch Pilot killed 583 people. Even the WW-2 Japanese Kamikaze pilots did not take off without permission and they were on suicide missions. Could not wait 3-5 minutes.
@spongebubatz
@spongebubatz 3 жыл бұрын
It was a miscommunication unfortunately together with a impatient pilot due to Dutch regulations
@antonberglund117
@antonberglund117 3 жыл бұрын
The captain had also prior to the crash been flying a lot of time in a simulator, teaching becoming pilots how to fly an airplane. But in a simulator you are your own controller, and after doing lot and lots of take-offs in the simulator he thought at Tineriff that he already was given take-off clearance, partially because ha had been flying so much in the simulator.
@taharbenseddik5607
@taharbenseddik5607 3 жыл бұрын
@@antonberglund117 I think this was one of the reasons why it went terribly wrong. As an 747-instructor captain Jacob Veldhuizen van Zanten flew a lot in the Flight Simulator. But I also think that the fact that the captain had to take off within a certain time due to the fact that the cockpit crew had to stop working would result in paying the costs for hotels etc. by KLM. Studying a combination of facts can lead to a interesting view on this subject, because I refuse to believe that captain Jacob Veldhuizen van Zanten is fully responsible for all of this. In other words, if the airport had ground radar, if the PANAM-747 had left the runway on time, if the weather conditions were good with no fog, etc.
@hayabusa-iii9282
@hayabusa-iii9282 3 жыл бұрын
+@ORGO Strange how Dutch said Spanish air traffic controllers English was lousy and that,s what led to the accident. Remember well March 27,1977, as an 11 yr old and having the Brothers at our Catholic boarding school come in and say to say a prayer for almost 600 people that had been killed in what is the worst aviation disaster in history. 2 747,s on the ground. From all the reports that are coming in a Dutch pilot took off without permission in heavy fog. Final report that came out in fall 1978 from Spanish aviation authorities and chief investigator. I cannot believe what was in the head of that Dutch pilot. To take off without ATC clearance in heavy fog. He broke all the rules of cockpit procedure. He had been flying since 1951. Kapitan Jacob Van Zanten was rude, impatient, was obviously flying under heavy stress. Loaded up the tanks with jet fuel. Did not allow the Pan Am behind him to take off before him. Was more worried about Stupid K.L.M. regulations regarding overtime and money. How much did it cost for all the death and destruction? Even Japanese Kamikaze pilots did not take off without permission and they were on suicide missions. I have been an aviation fanatic for over 40 yrs.
@marcvanderwee
@marcvanderwee 3 жыл бұрын
@@hayabusa-iii9282 'The Dutch captain did not allow the PanAm behind him to take off before him'. According to me it was not 'to allow' rather than it simply was impossible because of the refuelling. The Dutch captain was unable to move the plane during refuelling... Otherwise he would have let the PanAm passing. At least I guess he would have done that. It is true that captain van Zanten took off without proper clearance from the Control Tower. Dutch people have the reputation of being rude, according to many non-Dutchies. But mostly it looks like rude as we Dutchies are very direct in our conversation.
@yacintajakobs2693
@yacintajakobs2693 3 жыл бұрын
I will never forget this horrible accident in my hometown 3 children became in one instant orphans
@rohittlr
@rohittlr 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously it's so horrible
@bluevictory1010
@bluevictory1010 3 жыл бұрын
The saying, "Patience is a virtue" is powerfully true and something that captain didn't have.
@jcfiggy
@jcfiggy 3 жыл бұрын
I like to say “Patience is epic” cuz idk but yes true
@nigel2093
@nigel2093 3 жыл бұрын
The greatest tribute we can pay to all those affected that day, not just the passengers that died, but their families also, is that we've learnt from this tragedy. By implenting procedures like CRM we do our level best to make sure this sort of disaster never happens again.
@kath1626
@kath1626 3 жыл бұрын
So in short: everything that could go wrong did go wrong. And SO many lives lost. 😞
@KillerKegsey1
@KillerKegsey1 3 жыл бұрын
What’s that called? It’s not Murphy’s Law issit? “If something bad *can* happen it will” or something like that
@ContentFall757Gaming
@ContentFall757Gaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@KillerKegsey1 that's the one :)
@Douglas_Hamilton
@Douglas_Hamilton 2 жыл бұрын
Terrorist attack - check Heavy fog - check Overcrowded airport - check runway exit confusion - check No land radar - check Miscommunication - check Impatient pilot - check
@nickygidwani
@nickygidwani 3 жыл бұрын
The KLM pilot was almost entirely at fault. The KLM was supposed to refuel in Gran Canaria, protocol at final destination, before heading back to Holland (more fuel meant a heavier plane and more combustion). But the pilot decided to 'save time' and even let off passengers at Los Rodeos terminal, in complete disregard to the Pan Am passengers and crew, who were waiting behind and ready to leave ASAP. Every other factor: it was a Sunday so only one air traffic controller was on duty; the terrible weather; and the single runway, only made it worse.
@hannesp3493
@hannesp3493 3 жыл бұрын
It annoys me so badly that 583 lives could have been saved had literally any one of the occurrences had not happened 😔
@brendboer6026
@brendboer6026 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah wtf, taking off in the fog whilst you don't know if it is clear. Still the guy at the airport tower should have been more clear, saying that there is still somebody on the track instead of ready for take off.
@bean4332
@bean4332 2 жыл бұрын
@@hannesp3493 the sad truth is that us humans only truly learn from tragic lessons and they had to be an example on how things should be done. it's just the way it is. but i do get it, even though that pilot is dead he still infuriates me with that stupidity.
@hannesp3493
@hannesp3493 2 жыл бұрын
@@bean4332 True. It's just unfortunate that those lives had to be lost in order for the lesson to be learned.
@muloodifaizle5395
@muloodifaizle5395 2 жыл бұрын
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@Malxer
@Malxer 3 жыл бұрын
I live in the Canary Islands and this event is still very spoken about by our parents and elders... A terrible disaster that hopefully never happens ever again anywhere, a very dark lesson to be written in our minds for the rest of our existence.
@MatthewSchellenberg
@MatthewSchellenberg Жыл бұрын
What's life like in the Canary islands?
@mineland66
@mineland66 Жыл бұрын
Bro I also live in the canary islands and no one talks about this. The first time I heared it was on air crash investigation
@mineland66
@mineland66 Жыл бұрын
​@@MatthewSchellenberg normal
@Malxer
@Malxer Жыл бұрын
@@mineland66 Nótese el énfasis en "parents and elders"
@mineland66
@mineland66 Жыл бұрын
@@Malxer ok sorry
@Raul_Menendez
@Raul_Menendez 3 жыл бұрын
An example of impatience and miscommunication that lead to innocent souls lost....
@Amr-by7yu
@Amr-by7yu 3 жыл бұрын
😊
@vectro4284
@vectro4284 3 жыл бұрын
@@Amr-by7yu 🤨
@jameskearsing9254
@jameskearsing9254 3 жыл бұрын
@Norfolk Boy the price of the ticket? klm shouldnt exist right now cause of this accident
@drestep4830
@drestep4830 3 жыл бұрын
@@jameskearsing9254 that’s the funny thing , they don’t exist anymore and neither does Pam am 😂
@drestep4830
@drestep4830 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luca-nu2zg no it doesn’t they went bankrupt a Couple years ago look it up
@andreasgonatas951
@andreasgonatas951 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that this accident ever took place untill it was shown in my recommendations. I feel so bad that this have happened. The ignorance of the Dutch captain is painfull to hear. His disregard of such a the advise of his second in command has led this to happen.
@BoleDaPole
@BoleDaPole 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, last time I fly with a Dutchman as captain
@theresa332
@theresa332 3 жыл бұрын
@@BoleDaPole thats an ignorant statement
@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor
@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoleDaPole and with Dutch pilot girl as a first officer?
@OmmerSyssel
@OmmerSyssel Жыл бұрын
@@BoleDaPole how about a Dutchwoman?
@PilotBlogDenys
@PilotBlogDenys 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for your job...
@greenesyt563
@greenesyt563 Жыл бұрын
Love to see you here❤
@antonberglund117
@antonberglund117 3 жыл бұрын
Just want to add that the interference was becuase the air control and Pan Am crew was trying to alert the KLM crew at the same time. The results was just a clatter in the KLM crews headphones.
@VGF80
@VGF80 2 жыл бұрын
The radio technology in aviation is comparable to walkie talkies. Everyone within the same airspace has to be switched to the same frequency in order to make sure that everyone can hear each other. In other words, everyone has to wait thier turn before they are allowed to talk. If more than one person is talking, than thats where the interfernce comes from. Pretty sure this radio technology is still used today.
@ajr3553
@ajr3553 3 жыл бұрын
When KLM heard about the crash they tried to contact van zanten as he was the senior captain without realising he was on the plane
@willielarimer7170
@willielarimer7170 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never will forget this accident, i was about 11years old, and was afraid to fly for a lone time
@blaqarot45
@blaqarot45 3 жыл бұрын
Did you witnessed that
@willielarimer7170
@willielarimer7170 3 жыл бұрын
Wasnt there but the news crew filmed it, they showed the bodys on the ground and the survivors wandering around, scared me to death
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 3 жыл бұрын
A car is a million times more dangerous. A bicycle, even much more than that. Walking is more dangerous than a plane, btw.
@willielarimer7170
@willielarimer7170 2 жыл бұрын
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 tell that to the realitives that lost loved ones on both planes and see their reactions, you might be the last casualty of a 44 year old plane crash
@dathaniel9838
@dathaniel9838 3 жыл бұрын
This a a perfect example of Murphy's Law, everything that can go wrong, will go wrong
@blackcatlady2172
@blackcatlady2172 2 жыл бұрын
I was 6 years old when this happened. I remember seeing it on the news. For the longest time, people were terrified to get on planes because this accident was so horrendous. Add to that, throughout the 80s, plane crashes were common as hell!
@BigLab9
@BigLab9 2 жыл бұрын
who?
@patrikjansen7831
@patrikjansen7831 2 жыл бұрын
But it also means that modern airport control is good enough that it can't go as wrong as this because ist otherwise would
@deanladue3151
@deanladue3151 2 жыл бұрын
The week before, my 2 aunts took me and my brother to see a movie called 'Airport '77'. Where a 747 is hijacked and crashes into the Atlantic ocean. Between the movie and seeing photos and news reports of this awful disaster, I wasn't sure that i ever wanted to get on a jetliner.
@frankvesci1187
@frankvesci1187 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the crash very well but never understood the events leading up to it. Thank you for the very clear, detailed explanation.
@danielpaez4210
@danielpaez4210 2 жыл бұрын
I heard that as soon as some KLM directives heard about the disastrous accident, they tried contacting Captain V. Zanten to go to the scene breaking down the accident without knowing that he was in fact the pilot involved.
@trwwn3804
@trwwn3804 3 жыл бұрын
You can look to the weather, traffic, facilities etc..but we all know what it boiled down to: KLM Captain's negligence. 7:55
@krashd
@krashd 3 жыл бұрын
Although CRM is recognised globally it is still often ignored in some cultures, a couple of Indian plane crashes post-1980 have been blamed on flight crew members being unwilling to correct their captain.
@Shabon67
@Shabon67 3 жыл бұрын
There have been many crashes even in the 2000s and beyond that resulted from poor CRM, among other factors. Check out Mentour Pilot's channel and recent aviation accident and incident investigation series. He's the best aviation channel I've come across on KZfaq and he loves to talk about CRM.
@johnstedman4075
@johnstedman4075 3 жыл бұрын
CRM is highly effective, and its derivatives are today widely used in many other fields and professions in the West. However, it is very apparent that Eastern cultures do not embrace the underlying concept of teamwork at all well, and their societies are still very much dominated by status, class and rank. Many aircraft have crashed as a result, including the Korean Air Cargo 747 Freighter (Flight 8509) which was lost soon after takeoff from London Stansted in 1999.
@terrythekittieful
@terrythekittieful 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnstedman4075 In that case, these airlines should be banned from international travel. Let them crash their planes in their own backyard.
@johnstedman4075
@johnstedman4075 3 жыл бұрын
@@terrythekittieful Foreign commercial airlines are sometimes banned from operating in some areas of the world, for example, all airlines based in Indonesia were banned from the EU in 2007 because of their poor safety record. This ban has since been rescinded, but many business travellers and pilots decline to fly from to or through Indonesian airspace. Your remark about allowing aircraft to suffer mishaps is ill-judged.
@lofturhjalmarsson9896
@lofturhjalmarsson9896 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnstedman4075 did not land on people it seems , en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Cargo_Flight_8509
@permindersidhu1280
@permindersidhu1280 3 жыл бұрын
A long chain of events led to this catastrophe. The airport, inadequate technology, weather and a surfeit of traffic which the system could not cope with. That said the main cause was Zanten and failure to cross check after being warned by the F/O. Those days a captain especially of a 747 was looked at with awe and his words were always final. This hierarchical culture has changed dramatically over the years but surprisingly in Asian and African countries this culture continues to this day and has been the main reason behind some crashes.
@fishtank39
@fishtank39 3 жыл бұрын
Love the animation, it gives a clear picture of the movements of the aircraft and what went wrong
@samanaathreya5819
@samanaathreya5819 3 жыл бұрын
I'm extremely flattered by the way you explained things and the animations were cool as well. I've tried so many videos but this was the best. your way of simplyflying things made it possible. Longing to see more content like this. Loved the video. Kudos to you man! I'm your new subscriber!
@thomasjoyce7910
@thomasjoyce7910 3 жыл бұрын
It's just his way of telling you he loves you. Sincere praise is all too rare in this world. Personally, if I had the skill, I would make and upload a gripping stage by stage description of the worst train crash in history. It's the best way to make people feel good about themselves.
@maryanne7161
@maryanne7161 3 жыл бұрын
Flattered is a word to be used if he were showcasing your life experience or your work.
@kaseyasimba4658
@kaseyasimba4658 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that 😊
@kirishimaharuto22
@kirishimaharuto22 2 жыл бұрын
My grandad was working at the airport at the time. I live less than 400 meters away from the runway where it happened, I often hear stories from that day and how the explosions where so loud you could hear them in the whole town. Right now I can see the whole runway as I look through the window. Truly a disaster.
@swetashrestha7043
@swetashrestha7043 Жыл бұрын
Prayers from nepal 🇳🇵 last month Atr crashed in nepal and caused death of all passengers and crew members
@rebelstandwithukraine1095
@rebelstandwithukraine1095 3 жыл бұрын
My Aunt lost her life in this deadly crash. She was one of Air Crew with Pan Am 1736.
@davidalexander7742
@davidalexander7742 2 жыл бұрын
I may have seen her during our flight from New York.
@rebelstandwithukraine1095
@rebelstandwithukraine1095 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidalexander7742 Congrats you have hawk eyes!
@samwhaleIV
@samwhaleIV 2 жыл бұрын
@@rebelstandwithukraine1095 Are you aware that you were responding to a survivor of the incident? 😅
@lyleada2226
@lyleada2226 3 жыл бұрын
it was the KLM pilot decision's fault. he did not listen to his crew and was very eager to get home.
@bluetics9496
@bluetics9496 3 жыл бұрын
Not only that, he requested the plane to be refueled to maximum allowed, which was completely unnecessary, ended up killing everyone on his own aircraft
@Milesco
@Milesco 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluetics9496 : No, filling up with fuel was not unreasonable. If he hadn't, he would've had to do it later anyway, to make it back to the Netherlands, so it saved time. (It's not like the pilot knew he was going to have to leap off the runway prematurely to avoid crashing into another plane.) The cause of the crash was the captain's impatience and arrogance. (Along with bad weather and a couple of very unfortunate radio glitches at the worst possible time.)
@dannyaviation1129
@dannyaviation1129 3 жыл бұрын
Not eager to get home, He was eager to get everyone go to Gran Canaria and back to Amsterdam with little delays as possible. If he goes over his delay quota, he will lose his license and force the airline to pay money for the stayover at Los Rodeos or Gran Canaria.
@rolliephantom5108
@rolliephantom5108 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the most important thing. Victor had confirmation bias eventhough he should have turned on C3
@hanjeuring5320
@hanjeuring5320 3 жыл бұрын
Thatś right Lyla, he ignored the remark of the engineer (third man in the cocpit) : Did the Pan Am leave the runway???
@VellanSubrumaniam
@VellanSubrumaniam 3 жыл бұрын
Im a fresh graduate pilot with 200hrs experience. I know this disaster, as being very well-knowm in aviation history. But, now i know the story behind "ready for departure" and "cleared for take-off" phrases.
@daliamcmahon5884
@daliamcmahon5884 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@alangeorgebarstow
@alangeorgebarstow 3 жыл бұрын
The words "Clear" and "Cleared" are also now completely forbidden at all airports in communications between the ATC Tower and aircraft (and also to all ground-operating vehicles). Any ground-operating vehicle wishing to cross a live runway must ask permission to do so from the Tower. If permission is not granted the vehicle is instructed to "Hold" and an acknowledgement of that "Hold" command must be passed back to the Tower. When permission is finally granted to cross the live runway, the Tower will instruct the driver of the vehicle to cross and then "Call Vacated" on passing the vacation point. Again an immediate acknowledgement is returned to the Tower before and after crossing the runway: "Crossing runway 27 at Echo One, will call vacated" and "Vacated runway 27 at Echo Two" (or whichever vacation point is crossed). Under no circumstances will the words "Clear" or "Cleared" be accepted.
@VellanSubrumaniam
@VellanSubrumaniam 3 жыл бұрын
@@daliamcmahon5884 i mean, Pilots and Tower are not allowed to use the word "takeoff" in any phrases. The word is used only if: 1. The Tower is giving takeoff clearence to a pilot. 2. The Pilot is acknowledging tower that he received Takeoff clearence. Otherwise, for every other situations, the word "departure" will be used in all phrases.
@VeryLovingRN
@VeryLovingRN 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations :) how was aviation school?
@theresechristiansen9769
@theresechristiansen9769 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of videos discussing this horrible event but yours is the clearest, & the most detailed. Thank you.
@johnmalcolm600
@johnmalcolm600 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Van Zanten took off without clearance, he was in patient and stressed, he gambled with all those peoples lives and his own and lost.
@lms4959
@lms4959 3 жыл бұрын
Impatient.
@JoyoSnooze
@JoyoSnooze 3 жыл бұрын
A very well made video about a truly tragic event. It's unfortunate that in such dynamic and professional industries, it usually takes a horrible mistake to make adequate changes. Subbed.
@jucavinanli
@jucavinanli 3 жыл бұрын
My neighbors parents, aunt, uncle, & friends, one being the ex City Manager of San Jose "Dutch" Hamman, & his wife all perished in what still remains the worst airlines accident in aviation history. I remember watching tv when they broke in the program for a News Bulletin regarding this horrific accident. Little did I know then that the parents of my neighbors across the street were on that doomed flight. So sad! 😢
@dannyrichards6233
@dannyrichards6233 3 жыл бұрын
Huh
@5thdawg917
@5thdawg917 3 жыл бұрын
😥
@davidalexander7742
@davidalexander7742 2 жыл бұрын
I am a survivor and lived in Palo Alto at the time. I have a newspaper clipping from the San Jose Mercury News that features a photo of "Dutch" Hamman.They were travelling with the couple who owned the fruit company "Driscolls" near Sant Cruz and they all died.
@dannyaviation1129
@dannyaviation1129 3 жыл бұрын
The investigators suggested the reason for this was a desire to leave as soon as possible in order to comply with KLM's duty-time regulations and before the weather deteriorated further. Going over his duty-time quota will lose his license
@dgwdgw
@dgwdgw 3 жыл бұрын
Better his license than his (and everyone else on the plane's) life, no?
@johnyoutuber9781
@johnyoutuber9781 3 жыл бұрын
@@dgwdgw he didn't think his life was at risk. He didn't think things through, because he was basically like a rockstar in the world of aviation, and he though he knew better.
@KrishnaKumar-es6sd
@KrishnaKumar-es6sd 2 жыл бұрын
Then pilots should be given a chance to opt out of duty time quota,in extraordinary conditions.
@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor
@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor 2 жыл бұрын
@@dgwdgw well, not that I want to justify the klm captain's attitude, but if I were a pilot, losing my license would be like losing my life
@katsu9582
@katsu9582 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor thats so stupid why its the Pilot fault if Gran canaria refusing him to land because of a terrorist, and why its the Pilot fault that he cannot be in time just because of that, the company should be sued not the Pilot. Idk why everyone is so picky about the Pilot if that really was the case he would lose his Liciense. And seriously does the fk matter wich CH Pan am takes they could have been way off sooner from the runaway, there was nowhere any plane in sight that other taxyway or whatever it is.
@jamess.7889
@jamess.7889 3 жыл бұрын
Great video explaining the events of that day. Trained under a trauma surgeon who was one of the first responders at the scene. What also led from this accident was how to treat initial burn injuries and subsequent treatments. Unfortunate incident that led to improvements in air travel and medical treatment.
@mttrains1118
@mttrains1118 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the best video of this incident. Very informative. Such a shame that communication played such a part in this tragedy.
@Rawwrrrrrrrrrrrr
@Rawwrrrrrrrrrrrr 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, there is technically one surviving passenger of that klm flight, the story is, a women , robina van lanschot, was with her two friends on the flight, but bc of the airport change, she decided not go on the flight bc she lived on the island, and didn’t think it needed to go back and forth ,she wasn’t aloud to leave at first but she did it anyway, she watched her two friends leave, and never returning
@sohamacharya171
@sohamacharya171 2 жыл бұрын
She wasn't on it when the incident occurred, so she wont be considered a survivor. However, she was a survivor of the flight which took off in Amsterdam and landed in Tenerife that day.
@zerszo
@zerszo 9 ай бұрын
she didn’t get on the plane bc her boyfriend was living on the island and instead of waiting she asked the airport if she could leave. she was granted to do so, and headed home with her boyfriend
@MostWantdead
@MostWantdead 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but this is just fucking SAD, i got goosebumps watching this, how tragic it is because of one man's arrogance. 500+ life that could've made such an impact in the world all gone, 50 years ago but I pray for the souls of the perished.
@mello9586
@mello9586 3 жыл бұрын
@@uc49842 Don't accept them,kill them.
@Dutchienl2006
@Dutchienl2006 3 жыл бұрын
One mans arrogance..? You’d wish..
@scottbecker4367
@scottbecker4367 3 жыл бұрын
@@uc49842 that's boring.
@Anna-vl4ju
@Anna-vl4ju Жыл бұрын
You explained that better than anything I’ve seen before. Thank you .
@headers12
@headers12 3 жыл бұрын
This was not accident, it was pure negligence from that stubborn KLM Captain.
@kd84afc
@kd84afc 3 жыл бұрын
So are you ignoring the other causes that was established?
@this_mfr
@this_mfr 3 жыл бұрын
@@kd84afc Regardless of the other circumstances, the entire mishap occurred because he didn't not get proper clearance for take-off from the tower and demanded he and his copilot go full thrust. Hence the entire reason for Crew Resource Management and Departure being used now. If all he had done was await proper clearance, KNOWING the situation for what it was and the lack of visibility, no one would have died. Including himself.
@anthonymartial5898
@anthonymartial5898 3 жыл бұрын
Dude sounded like dyatlov
@kd84afc
@kd84afc 3 жыл бұрын
@@this_mfr entire accident occurred due to a number of factors that all played their part in this accident happening. Fog, delay in refueling that allowed the fog to settle, sending the pan am flight down the runway towards the other plane in heavy fog and ordered to do left turn that was later found impossible to do for a 747, garbled communications which led to misleading communications of them thinking they could take off. The KLM captain was very wrong, yes, but he wasn't the only one. putting the entire blame on one man is unfair.
@FF-jf8yg
@FF-jf8yg 3 жыл бұрын
@@this_mfr wrong
@GrandWalkingTours
@GrandWalkingTours 3 жыл бұрын
This is horrific , I love to travel but im almost crippled with the fear of flying , i know its safe , but there is always more safety that could be handled , i wish it was in place this day so that both flights landed safe at the original destination and everyone was still with us today
@noeminoemi1350
@noeminoemi1350 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine how the survivors felt about flying again after experiencing this horrific event.
@gregorysmithsonian
@gregorysmithsonian 3 жыл бұрын
@@noeminoemi1350 i've always had this thought that when you had to endure this kind of near death experience and you survived, it's very unlikely you would face the same scenario twice. It's like your death won't be in an airplane crash. You can still be involved in any other accident, just not the same one you had.
@davidalexander7742
@davidalexander7742 2 жыл бұрын
Flying today has never been safer than it is right now.
@GrandWalkingTours
@GrandWalkingTours 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidalexander7742 oh I know . And statistics are ill die on way to airport over being in aircraft. But my mind goes into overdrive lately. Years ago I was fine . I think it was a few rough flights that kicked off the fear and it just escalated... alcohol helps me alot ... but I don't think I can be drunk on a 14 hour flight to Thailand 🤣🤣🤣
@simsch97
@simsch97 Жыл бұрын
@@GrandWalkingTours maybe it would help if you try to learn a bit about the operations on the flight deck. There are several videos of pilots simulating emergency procedures or Pilots Eye videos of real flights. If you know about the technical parts of an aircraft and what they do in which situation you'll sit in the plane and be sure that everything is fine as you know what is going on. Mid flight there is almost nothing that can happen that would cause the plane to crash. A plane doesn't just brake apart for no reason. Even if for whatever reason all engines would stop running mid flight the planes are designed to glide for about 200 km or more than 100 miles. The exact distance depends on the type of aircraft but it should be enough to safely land at an airport near by. It is also very unusual to have all engines stop working mid flight. They would have to run out of fuel or fly through the ash of a volcano. During takeoffs or landings it is a different story with the possibility of bird strikes but the pilots are trained for these situations. I dabbled with flight simulators and airplanes for years before flying for the first time and I was never scared of it but rather looking forward to it. I simulated the route that we would fly several times before we went on the flight and already knew what exciting views we would get on the approach. My mum was a bit scared of flying and the approach was a bit bumpy so she said she doesn't want to fly again. I knew exactly what was happening and had 100% trust into the aircraft and the pilots. The second time I went on a flight I already went alone (without parents) and had no problem at all. Fear is usually caused by something unknown.
@Imyourfather225
@Imyourfather225 2 жыл бұрын
Great job. Thanks for the graphics, I was never able to understand how this accident happened until today.
@Hoscitt
@Hoscitt 2 жыл бұрын
Nice overview, exactly what I was looking for before committing to a full documentary. Thanks!
@roaddog7542
@roaddog7542 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation on how this aviation disaster occured.
@ViceroyoftheDiptera
@ViceroyoftheDiptera 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine having been on a very long flight, with a stop, half way around the world, almost at your destination, having waited for hours in the fog, on the ground, and getting struck by an incredibly irresponsible pilot.
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant 3 жыл бұрын
...Tbh: KZfaq has Issues... if you wanna know a way to help, tell me. I claim to know one. Daring claim? Maybe. But i still say so and ask you to ask me about it. I fought Racism, Sexism, P0rn, Scammer, Spam-Bots and P-Spam-Bots before - and you can do this too. So my claim.
@suleos
@suleos 2 жыл бұрын
I live very close to this airport! My mom who grew up on this island says they found body parts all around the forest around the area for months, and she was always scared to find one. Truly a tragedy.
@michellestradnick3912
@michellestradnick3912 2 жыл бұрын
So sad!! How horrible 😞
@ajs41
@ajs41 Жыл бұрын
Seems unlikely since all the debris from the planes was on the runway, nowhere near any forests.
@MoahGentle
@MoahGentle Жыл бұрын
@@ajs41 bruh half the comments here are made up shit, i feel like I'm on reddit
@fabianoherzer
@fabianoherzer Жыл бұрын
@@MoahGentle I had the very same thought just before I read your comment. Shit's ridiculous.
@breakfastonuranus
@breakfastonuranus 6 ай бұрын
​@@MoahGentlemakes sense 😂
@ericplunder2744
@ericplunder2744 3 жыл бұрын
An exceptionally well produced video. All the facts stated so clearly
@23hublock1
@23hublock1 3 жыл бұрын
Years later, the Pan-Am FO Robert Bragg was interviewed for a documentary at the airport in Tenerife. He looked on the grass and in moments found parts of his aircraft.
@jennytice8849
@jennytice8849 3 жыл бұрын
What?! Apparently the team members in charge of collecting and preserving evidence were also incompetent. The mind boggles. There have been a lot of programs on the Tererife disaster -- do you happen to recall the name of this particular documentary?
@23hublock1
@23hublock1 3 жыл бұрын
@@jennytice8849 I'll try and find it....it was on KZfaq I saw it....
@23hublock1
@23hublock1 3 жыл бұрын
@@jennytice8849 Found it....20 years later was his first time back at Tenerife. I believe he passed away in 2017. Here's the KZfaq link to the video : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j9KCgpeU2r3VdIU.html
@jennytice8849
@jennytice8849 3 жыл бұрын
@@23hublock1 Thank you!
@jesusleon5764
@jesusleon5764 3 жыл бұрын
Best explanation yet, thanks.
@JG-oc9gc
@JG-oc9gc 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel has so much quality for 2.5 k subs. You deserve hundreds of thousands of subs. Your channel has so much quality.
@dineshmj
@dineshmj 3 жыл бұрын
Very clearly explained ... The graphics was apt. Thanks for the video!
@Felicia790
@Felicia790 3 жыл бұрын
I was living in Gran Canaria an island next to Tenerife and still remember the full horror of it all. 🙏🏼🥲
@samsamson391
@samsamson391 2 жыл бұрын
Dude gets right to the point. And has an amazing voice.
@user-oq7sm1ef4b
@user-oq7sm1ef4b 2 жыл бұрын
You make this crash so simple. I never understood it until your video. Good job
@ethereal2365
@ethereal2365 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe your channel only has four thousand subscribers, the quality is impeccable.
@jonathonloredo8026
@jonathonloredo8026 2 жыл бұрын
As cynical as it sounds to admit, without this crash, there’s lots of modern airline systems that likely wouldn’t be in place that prevent this sort of thing from happening again
@carlmaster9690
@carlmaster9690 2 жыл бұрын
and it also lead slot ofnthe worlds major airports updating and their ground systems, making it mandatory for said airports to have a fully functioning ground system
@_kshitijsingh.1799
@_kshitijsingh.1799 3 жыл бұрын
R.i.p. all the souls 🙏💐😥
@clydek1165
@clydek1165 3 жыл бұрын
A great mini doc, happy to have found this channel today^^
@lander8423
@lander8423 3 жыл бұрын
Important to nOte is that the klm pilot has been in the plane for 17 hours or something and that u cant be in the plane for longer than 18 hours or something otherwise ur licence gets taken thats why he wanted to go so fast that rule was later dismissed because of this accident
@santman3200
@santman3200 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't make any sense since the flight would be longer than one hour anyway. No van Zanten was the poster pilot of KLM back then and an arrogant sack of shit.
@america6545
@america6545 3 жыл бұрын
Not the license. The crew couldn't fly the plane after a certain time since they would had too many flight hours.
@in.meraki
@in.meraki 3 жыл бұрын
His Overconfidence came at the cost of so many lives.
@noralynserizawa7403
@noralynserizawa7403 3 жыл бұрын
Great video great video i wish no more accidents like this
@thushivasanth8678
@thushivasanth8678 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely presented the incident, keep up good work !
@MJJack83
@MJJack83 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the narration
@fl570
@fl570 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully made video. Great job!
@antonioalonso2986
@antonioalonso2986 3 жыл бұрын
min. 3:36 Only "OK" was heared inside the cabin, due to interferences. That word should be forbiden at airports as it is ambiguous and can lead to a missunderstanding if out of context. According to Professor Elizabeth Matthews, errors caused by language in aeronautical communications have been "a more frequent and influential factor than has been commonly noted." For Matthews, who has been a consultant for the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), "linguistic problems in aviation are not investigated with the same degree of systematic and expert rigor with which other human and operational factors are considered."
@jinx6777
@jinx6777 3 жыл бұрын
"OK" is now forbidden over ATC communications. They really didn't go over the full breadth of the reforms caused by Tenerife. Language used in controlled airspace is now extremely specific. Exact phrases are required and all that. Of course, lax ATC/pilots do still in practice break them. But the general system is far more rigid than the details of what the video detailed. I mean, for one, everyone who is an Air Traffic Controller or a pilot in any country must be an english speaker, second language or otherwise.
@antonioalonso2986
@antonioalonso2986 3 жыл бұрын
@@jinx6777 So as it is said, every crash heads to a revision of regulations and requirement, so in the end makes flying safer. God bless all the lifes it takes so. Thanks for the answer Amber, I didnt know that.
@pablo08034
@pablo08034 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful in explaining this tragic event.
@survivingchicago5797
@survivingchicago5797 3 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when a pilot becomes a celebrity
@knockhello2604
@knockhello2604 3 жыл бұрын
Chicago, imagine Africa
@knockhello2604
@knockhello2604 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surviving philly hell hole
@valiantsfelinesmccarty6678
@valiantsfelinesmccarty6678 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your presentation. This is an example of when you don't follow the rules and feel that you have more legitimacy than everyone else you can cause great harm. Sadly it takes an accident like this to bring about changes to provide more safety.
@ilovetotri23
@ilovetotri23 3 жыл бұрын
Great job! Thanks for the post.
@ducktape5970
@ducktape5970 3 жыл бұрын
Best explanation ever. Thank you.
@BitcoinMotorist
@BitcoinMotorist 2 жыл бұрын
The KLM captain was a senior instructor for the airline and was not used to communicating with ATC on a regular basis. His seniority may have also made it difficult for the flight crew to raise objections on the flight deck
@peregrinolincoln
@peregrinolincoln 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this accident happening. I was growing up in Orange County, CA. One of my dad’s best friends died In the Pan Am plane. I remember how stunned we were when we heard the news.
@templecatt
@templecatt 3 жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace
@BMordecai
@BMordecai 3 жыл бұрын
Very well made video, very insightful
@diegoaguilar5491
@diegoaguilar5491 9 ай бұрын
I was looking through youtube for aviation stories to watch with my father and the thumbnail for these two aircraft colliding came up. Never have I seen someone's face die so quickly... The horror of this incident...
@johnmunro4952
@johnmunro4952 3 жыл бұрын
On hearing about the disaster KLM called all their experts together to join the investigation team. The name at the top of the list of senior pilots to lead the team... Van Zanten.
@christopherwarsh
@christopherwarsh 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that they sent a C-130 two days later! That’s nuts but totally understandable- I’m sure Tenerife didn’t have the capacity for mass casualties like that..
@Wildstar40
@Wildstar40 3 жыл бұрын
The bodies are not going to catch the next connecting flights back home to their families by themselves. Someone always has to clean up the mess.
@christopherwarsh
@christopherwarsh 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wildstar40 Wow. That's morbid.
@SeekLuminousThings
@SeekLuminousThings Жыл бұрын
Great video. Clear and concise.
@jozefff7911
@jozefff7911 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Thanks a lot!
@polycrase
@polycrase 3 жыл бұрын
All we need is just a little patience.
@josephwood4160
@josephwood4160 2 жыл бұрын
This accident was so avoidable, I feel bad for all the people who died, may they rest on peace
@muntasirK
@muntasirK 10 ай бұрын
Except for the negligence of the klm captain
@cmpunko2316
@cmpunko2316 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Short but very informative.
@itsnaeswayy9896
@itsnaeswayy9896 2 жыл бұрын
Wow so glad that crashes are super rare these days and blessings to the pilots that get us to point a and point b ❤️🙏🏾
@Stephen_The_Waxing_Lyricist
@Stephen_The_Waxing_Lyricist 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, but you have glossed over one detail. You mention radio interference a few times, but never the cause. This happened because two people were trying to send a message at the same time on the same frequency. The messages interfered with each other and as a result neither were received.
@ghostpuppet31
@ghostpuppet31 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe there's commercial airports, where the take off and landing strip, is the same runway. Ridiculously dangerous.
@johncrowley4421
@johncrowley4421 3 жыл бұрын
That’s common in most smaller airports
@Belltogo3000
@Belltogo3000 3 жыл бұрын
Runways are used for take off and landing. Where there are multiple runways they are chosen based on wind. Never seen a runway dedicated just to taking off or landing.
@dgwdgw
@dgwdgw 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghostpuppet31 Stick to hoverboards, mate. Get to your departure gate early enough and you'll see the aircraft arrive, passengers disembark, then (after a short cleaning break) the gate crew will start boarding the next flight's passengers. Same gate, same aircraft that never moves.
@NewYard25
@NewYard25 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghostpuppet31 Have you ever actually been at an airport? If you have then you obviously haven't been paying attention.
@gordo1163
@gordo1163 2 жыл бұрын
Your IQ is probably in the double digits.
@breakbad9753
@breakbad9753 3 жыл бұрын
By far the best video on this accident
@dingaling2007
@dingaling2007 3 жыл бұрын
great informational video. Not the usual dramatized clickbait. I remember this accident. I was 13. RIP
@annemary86
@annemary86 3 жыл бұрын
Read a book on how someone so experienced could make such a fatal mistake. Normally someone doesn't just ignore instructions especially when visibility is low, but there were so many factors that made captain v zalen eager to take off: his mandatory resting period was coming soon, which meant he had to handover the flight control, the people would have had to be accommodated in hotels had they waited more, which meant expenses for the company, and plus he was tired and overwhelmed by everything. This is not to excuse him, but the whole point of the book was to show we can all make rash decisions given enough stress factors
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