It was more like losses during a 100 years long period (of economic and demographic decline).

Sweden: Let's become a seafaring power! Builds the Vasa, which promptly sinks upon launch. Sweden: Navies are overrated.

Up until this year, 2024.

Sweden 2022: "y'all got any more of them NATO memberships?"

@@jabbertwardy one of the most amazing details of this is that the Dutch (IIRC) ship-builders made it out of Sweden alive. (Just one more gun-deck! Above? Below? I don't care one more!!!)

and depend on it for map games

@@SulistaComunista And block games. Really, they just seem big on cultural victory.

...those meatballs, man....

and the Swedish Fish candy.

*heavy breathing by Americans butchering the pronunciation of IKEA*

Paradox will never stop buffing them until they outright rewrite reality in Sweden's favour.

In CK3 the Norse culture is so hilariously overpowered that it's impossible to compete

😂

I like how the Sweden economics explained in the video is basically normal expansive gameplay economics in EU4. >Hire a huge army >Go deep into debt >Win against a larger enemy with huge army >Pay off debt with war reparations >Buy bigger army and repeat Sweden only messed up the fool proof strat by losing. Shoulda gotten good

"Sweden is not overpowered." 🙄😂

💯

How do you mean?

@@vicino. 3 pairs of different looking minecraft like arms

I would say at it's largest, not necicarrily at it's strongest.

No. Saint Barthélemy didn’t belong to Sweden until the 1700s, while New Sweden was a Swedish colony during the 1600s. 🤓☝️

Philadelphia's municipal flag is evidence of Sweden's brief North American presence.

And then the Dutch were like: 'Hey, it's free real-estate'.

Fun fact: the colonist were actually mostly Finnish

There was a saying in Sweden: "We'll fight to the last Finn!" When Sweden lost the Finnish War in 1808-09, it declined for good.

How to fund a Viking army 101

the viking mentallity

​@@albion6087 I love it!!

If one thinks about it that is how the viking system worked pretty much, so no surprise even in later centuries nordic countries continued to follow this mentality. Maybe Sweden's biggest mistake was not coming up with some ideas of how to minimize army expenditure during peacetime. The british were much better at this, like for example in the royal navy officers would get demoted or lose command in peacetime, which meant lower pay. I'm sure the same applied in the army.

yeah basically

Before 1721

Except Prussia had a much more reliable financial system and a much stronger economy

@@luisfilipe2023 When? Prussia has gone through several iterations.

​@@luisfilipe2023Sweden was prussia but just with a absolutely horrendous population

I think Kelly Money Maker would be a better choice but that's just me

Hotel: Trivago

​@@eacalvertclue's in the name really.

😂

Imagine that some of these guys just forgot that they have subscribed to him on Patreon.

Interesting! Are there any articles about this some place so I (we) can read?

Well, given that it was followed by Russian occupation the bar for a good time wasn't particularly high.

Here in Finland we call them the homoage

I've also heard it called "The good old Swedish times"

​@Erik_Taurus And how did you Estonians enjoy being ruled by the "Livonian Brothers of the Sword" and their descendants, the Baltic German's?

And helped in finding and keeping track of potential recruits or conscripts for the army.

Cool, I thought this was just some Paradox shit.

That’s not why Sweden converted to Protestantism at all, or why state control of the church was important. The state could probably access tax lists whether they were Catholic or Protestant. Some of the reasons the king converted the country were that partially he was in conflict with the Archbishop of Stockholm Gustaf Trolle, and that he wanted to confiscate (i.e. steal) church assets

And without that census, the allotment systems that Swedish kings could made every hovel supply one man and each hovel paid for his gun and uniform possible. I wonder what step Prinz Eugen missed when he tried the same with Landwehr system and ended up with recruits missing guns and shoes.

Old day version of Big Brother

The section of the Swedish constitution that guarantees freedom of speech is a decade older than the US: 1766.

@@magnushultgrenhtc As a Swede, i think Sweden prohibits hate speech, which means its not fully freedom of Speech.

@@ledrash6079 I mean, so does the American policy on free speech as well. Tolerance of intolerance usually just leads to more intolerance.

​@@blueseercontentAmerican Free Speech actually guarantees complete Speech protection, even for hate Speech and blasphemy

Freedoms have limits.​@@ledrash6079

oh that's where ''alter schwede'' comes from

Also in Hamburg there's a stone named alter schwede, a stone from Småland :>

I had picked up a slightly different story to that Baltic connection, namely that the "old Swede!" exclamation (which is still very commonly used here in Germany, although mostly in a kind of joking/ironic ways nowadays since it's such a weird thing to say) came from the old Swedish soldiers that stayed around for one reason or another in Germany after the Thirty Years' War (in which the Swedish army became known and feared all around the country)

Yeah, I come from Rügen and people here jokingly ask "When is Rügen going back to Sweden?"

Sweden didn't just used to be a major steel producer, it is still the largest iron producer in the EU, and the mine in Kiruna is one of the largest single mines in the world

>implying his gf is not guatavus adolophus We both know you like the skeltonussy

HAHA this comment:D

That painting of him riding a horse in such a flamboyant manner during battle as if he’s the sugar plum fairy 😍

Maybe you should get a Swedish girlfriend instead. 🙂

king

Too bad they didn't stick with Norway--they would've been able to get some of that oil money.

@@AdvocateOfJamaica Norway didn't want to stick with them

@@AdvocateOfJamaica actually they wanted to but the Norwegians did what was smart: they broke up w them.

Well.. Finland belonged to Sweden for 600 years and that's why it was a major blow to Sweden when we lost them to Russia. The Swedish general in charge of Sveaborg fortress outside of Helsinki was executed as soon as he sat foot in Stockholm.

​@@AdvocateOfJamaicathe countries had one and the same king but separate governments and partial "democracy" (for tax-payers). The intention was to deepen the union. But that failed, chiefly because Sweden was dominated by conservative politicians and Norway more liberal. The conservative establishment of Sweden wanted to control and dominate also the Norwegians. But when Norway had gained independence, the conservatives soon lost their dominance in Sweden too and common suffrage was introduced.

Lol,I hate IKEA Ever tried putting together something from them? Not fun at all,lol

​@@colindaniels945 you must be "special" kind of person if you cannot put together a furniture you bought from IKEA. That shit practically builts itself.

@@o.w.n.1327But I always get lost in there😢

@@colindaniels945 IKEA furniture has a bit of parts but tbh it just takes time it's not that bad

@@Kokong I know what you mean. It's like they built the shop in a maze.

Yeah, they declined from being a somewhat major power by trying to become a major power in the first place. Kinda harsh version of "just be yourself" statement..

@@MetalLP brings a tear to my eye :(

Typo StormaktsTiden

@@antonjohansson3819 Thanks, missed that!

@@MetalLP Just conquering Moscow, unlike Hitler. And then conquering all of modern day Germany. Plundering Prague in 1648. Beating the crap out of the Danish empire and taking a large number of provinces: Scania, Jämtland, Halland, Blekinge, Gotland, Bohuslän, Trondheim, Bornholm. And then taking all of the Baltics, and basically conquer all of the gigantic Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth twice in the 1650s and in 1706s. Plus crushing the Saxon army which was the richest country in Europe and the Silicon Valley of its day. Sweden built Europes largest fleet of warships in the late 1500s and early 1600s. It saved protestantism in the 30 years war, and created freedom of religion, and created a new world order with the Westphalian peace. And in 1640 it had the largest army in Europe. And a saying in that time period was that if you wanted to learn how to fight, then you needed to join service with the Swedish army. Because that was considered the best most modern fighting force of its time. For 300 years was Sweden a major power in northern Europe. And then I am not including medieval times or the viking age.

Commonwealth was the country that existed only theoretically at this point. August II would do anything what Russia asked him, because without them, he wouldn't stay as a king in the first place.

@@GM-gb1eu Except not really. You're mixing last two kings with August II, all while Commonwealth still could recover from 17th century debacles. Problem though, August II basically brought Commonwealth into his personal war with Sweden, where he naively thought Russians and Danes would take the brunt while he would take modern Latvia for himself and gain political power via that. Instead he failed in spectacular way and brought upon Commonwealth decade long war which was in retrospect the decisive nail to it's coffin, as country was yet again ruined and plundered, political spectrum devolved, all while Commonwealth became de facto puppet of Russia.

@@ReichLife Nah, as a Pole, Poland was doomed when John III Sobieski died, and even before, the Polish state was really degenerated by its own political system. Only radical changes to the system could change things, but it happened 100 years too late.

@@GM-gb1eu Except not really. Commonwealth was hardly doomed when August II got the crown. It was exactly his idiotic decision to bring upon country yet another war which doomed it. As mentioned, Great Northern War was basically Deluge 2.0. On another hand, civil war during it neutered any chance of meaningful reform for next 2-3 generations. Finally, it was only due to Great Northern War that Commonwealth lost it's sovereignty, instead falling into Russian sphere.

Closest thing to Russia and Poland ever being allies

Your mistake was not going to Kelly Moneymaker instead. I mean, it's right there in her name.

@@jc3drums916 she was funding the Danes during the great Northern war.

​@@mrwillss5888I knew there was something wrong with her when she started speaking weirdly rather than speaking the beautiful and efficient Swedish language

I immediately started looking for a comment about why James Bisonette was now gone

But fun fact......no

Aw I hope next week will be better

Hope for the best next week. Stay strong, buddy!

Your week wasn't as bad as Charles running from Poltava, you have to look at the bright side

⚡️⚡️⚡️😡😡😡

Hope things are going better this month.

The time has come for another iteration.

And there's always a bad winter.

He stopped funding them and switched to this channel.

Nah

@@alastairward2774This comment was fact checked by real Danish patriots. ✅✅✅

Who

Kelly was not yet making money at this time

"Listen excuse for a King! Trust me, this fight you can't win!"

i'm sorry he what?

Is Estonia a real place?

​@@BigSnippof course it is. Don't let Russian propaganda fool you otherwise. Also, Estonia is known for its digital governance

@@triadwarfare I'm just being silly. Of course Estonia is a strong nation with a rich heritage, eager to protect their homeland. No disgrace was intended.

lmao cucked

there is still a large Swedish minority in Finland. About 300 000 people out of 5 500 000. There are often called "rantaruotsalaiset" (coastal Swedes) here since they are mostly concentrated in the coast, but unfortunately this term is seen as impolite or joking and the prefered term is "suomenruotsalaiset" meaning Fenno-Swedes.

you could ask portugal and england the same question

Well, one reason was that the vast majority of the soldiers in the army that plundered Prague weren't actually Swedish - the army relied very heavily on mercenaries at that point, most of whom were from the various German states of the time (as well as many English, Scottish and Dutch people). So they didn't have to ship over that many people from Sweden. Even then, though, I think you overestimate the distances involved here. Even with 17th century technology, you're looking at a 1-2 months travel time from Stockholm to Prague at most. People moved over that kind of distance all the time, even back then. And the armies were mostly supplied locally, either through plunder or by purchasing from local merchants.

Same in Poland. Swedish Deluge was more dewastating than WWII. This is somehow impressive how much damage were able made swedish soldiers despite the fact they even didnt try control all ours lands by longer time.

​@@konanpl8936As a Swede, I understand that what we did was devastating but if you claim it was worse than WWII then you're delusional. Kind regards from Sweden 🇸🇪

@@gustavnilsson2795 No hate for Sweden. We like our nothern neightbours, but this is true. At the time of Gustavus Adolphus Sweden had more soldiers than can maintain. So Swedish kings HAS to plunder their neighbours, or their economy would collapse. We call this war ,,Deluge (1655-1660) becuse it was very dewastating. King Adolf Gustaw wasn't interesting in rulling Commonwealth (polish and lithuanian nobility offered him crown during invasion but he rejected it) so his army just plundered everything instead try to seize control over new territories. Commonwealth never really recover from this until partitions. In terms of economy it was at least comparable with WWII. Most our historics counting this as more dewastating. But no one keep grudge for this today, because Deluge is now just long gone history.

Hate to be a grammar nazi but you really need some full stops in there. Its hard to read such a long sentence

The mining industry never came to exceed over 10% of Swedish gdp. Copper and silver prices swayed due to large imports from the new world while high grade deposits of silver and copper were being exhausted. By the 1700's, the importance of the copper and silver had entirely been replaced by iron which from there on came to be Sweden's most valuable export product. Around 90% of the state's income was from taxes and primarily it was from taxing the peasantry. Around 1-2% of the state's revenue was from tariffs. Hence why Sweden took small provinces on the German coast. These were trade ports where shipping tariffs were collected. Most of the tariff revenue however was from Sweden's interior. Domestic tariffs meant you had to pay to sell your goods in a different town. Which in general stifled Sweden's trade and why the country remained a mainly agricultural economy. Other industries was in forestry, where again it was mainly raw goods in the form of timber and tar were the exported goods. (Sweden's economic history, Lars Magnusson). An example of Sweden's not so well handled economy was how Swedish iron were mainly exported to Britain. While England exported nails and iron made tools to Sweden. The emphasis on the army caused Sweden to neglect its own merchant class and it took far longer for Sweden to build up its class of skilled craftsmen. The first real growth spurt for the economy came by mid 1700's and it was still in agriculture. Centuries of land reclamation and deforestation opened up more farmland. An enclosure act that consolidated and standardized farms plots. Empty/abandoned farms were also free to be settled by any aspiring farmer without having to purchase the land. Followed by a law that forced all villagers to provide labor to neighboring farms making sure no harvest was lost to due lack of manpower meant Sweden for the first time had consecutive years of agricultural surplus that went into exports.

Back in a common military alliance with all of the Nordic countries for the first time in 501 years...!

*lost to the Russians

Finland was the true key to Sweden's power.

​@@citinox1778France money I would say.

@@citinox1778 No, no it really wasn't. It was poor, and considered a backwater place basically.

Or Bisonette, no idea how it's written

Your silly comment got more likes than one I made the other day on a video discussing the collapse of the Chinese economy.

@@Iason29 ok

Obligatory response

@@jamesbissonette8002obligatory disagreement

Obligatory Kelly Moneymaker comment.

@@ethanreyes9549 they both gave it all to some KZfaqr. Back to furniture making and I assume Xeroxing cash.

Skol!!!!!

@@doglover31418 skål!

Actually the king is Swedish, because even though Bernadotte was French he married and had children with a Swedish woman. If you're going to claim current monarchs aren't actually their own nationality you're probably going to lose 99.9% of the time, it's not like monarchs always married within their own nationality, in fact often they would marry other royal houses royalty for alliances. Pretty sure you could go back far enough and find some French monarch that wasn't a native Frenchman, heck maybe if you dug deep enough into Bernadottes past maybe his great grandparents were German or Swiss, would that make Swedens current monarch German-Swiss-French? By that logic, yes

Literally every single monarchy in Europe had foreigners as their monarchs throughout their history, that eventually married and became nationalized.

@@issemayhem Marshall Bernadotte was born in the old Gascon town of Pau, so he was probably closer to being Spanish than anything northern European. After he was king, mostof his descendents spouses were French or Dutch, with the occasional German

took me a while to realize that this wasn't an elaborate setup to a James Bissonette joke

Some people argue the English monarchy is technically French (from 900 years ago), since it started in Normandy.

and Saab to build jetfighters

the Swedish scientist Emanuel Swedenborg conceptualized a flying machine in 1714 as well, imagine if he had managed to persuade the rest of the country's scientific community to figure out how to make it work.

Volvo 250 Cab min drömbil, dock taget ur sitt sammanhang.

My entire knowledge of this time comes from The Trilogy because the history teacher we had for the year it was covered was absolutely worthless

The damage done by Sweden to Poland during the Deluge was worse than the Nazis in WW2

If i remember correctly so was it something about Sweden alone doing more damage to Poland during the Deluge than what the Nazis did. I could be wrong tho

@@williamshakesbeer4163 material-wise yes but in terms of percentage of the population killed, the Swedes were way worse

@@akechijubeimitsuhide The Trilogy is kind of romanticised, some events and people are fictious. Other than that, it gives you a good impression of what happened

The Szlachta, the Crown, and the Cossacks didn't see eye to eye with each other. And the Russians wouldn't forgive the Time of Troubles. And yes, I already suggested the Time of Troubles couple-three years back.

Simple, atrocious political system which destroyed central authority and made state paralyzed to both properly act and react.

Reason was, ironically, quite contrary to Sweden - in XVIIth Century it entered a state of almost constant, never-ending war - with Sweden in the early XVIIth Century, Russia during the Dymitriades, Ottoman Empire, Russia again (Chmielnicki's Up-Rising), Sweden, Russia and Prussia altogether (VIth Polish-Swedish War, also known as ,,Swedish Deluge"), civil war (Lubomirski's Mutiny, one of the bloodiest civil wars in Polish history), Ottoman Empire again (Sobieski's Rescue), Ottoman Empire *again* (Vienna Campaign) and then Sweden once more (Great Northern War). Yet another factor was just how ineffective Polish-Lithuanian pollitical system was in times of crisis (which, in case of Poland-Lithuania, lasted for almost 200 years non-stop). _Nihil Novi_ (,,Nothing New" in Latin) privilege ensured, that in order for *any* Royal decree to be passed, literally *every single envoy* must agree. During the _Golden Century_ it worked well - in fact, Polish Nobility was praised for ability to debate and even allowed women to vote and veto on certain occasions - but went crushing down in times of Swedish Deluge, when Noblemen were just cancelling Sejm Negotiations for no reason than to cancel them (mainly because they were bribed to do so or wanted to force the King to submit to their wills). King had very little real power over his country, and it took time to assemble the Sejm - the shortest waiting time was over 2 weeks, just to pass a single decree - which didn't work well for the Polish-Lithuanian economy. Ironically, one of the things that bankrupted Poland-Lithuania was also the Winged Hussars. They were a little like Tiger tank during WW2 for Germany - scarily effective, almost absolutely undefeated, and could, in many cases, single-handedly win a battle even without a numerical advantage, but were also extremely costly. In Sejm of 1724, when Poland-Lithuania disbanded the Winged Hussars as military formation, it was clear the nation was in severe need of reforms, but it took another 60 years (and 2 another bloody wars, being put under Russian Protectorate and one partition), in Great Sejm Negotiations of 1788-1792, to actually do something - but by that time it was already too late. Any trials of reforms were just resulting in more and more wars (War of Polish Succession, Bar Confederacy, War of Polish Constitution and Kościuszko's Up-Rising), and to at least somehow pay off massive external debt, Poland-Lithuania had to literally sell its lands (the Partitions). In 1795 King has been given a choice he could not refuse - to accept the 3rd and final Partition and retire in lands of his precious lover, Catherine II of Russia, or face horrendous debt (that even forced him to become a bis-xual prostitute to pay it off somehow. No, I am *not* making this up. He was doing this to afford bribes for Noblemen in Sejm Negotiations). He's made his choice.

Because of ukrainians

​@@Admiral45-10 Wasn't it "liberum veto", not "nihil novi"?

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"SAY MY NAME WHEN YOU PRAY"

TO THE SKIES SEE CAROLUS RISE!

"WITH THE LORD MY PROTECTOR"

I do miss the thumps.

det är så över...

Haha husk Fredriksten festning hvor vi skøyt kongen deres. Vi kan kjøpe hele Sverige om vi vil!

@@joninator7858 ehm vi ägde er i 100 år

Och danmark ägde er i typ 350 år också 💀💀

@@messithegoat6142 Union hvor vi hadde mye selvstyre kan neppe telles som å "eie" Når vi erklærte oss selv selvstendige gjorde dere ingen verdens ting

Forever

Just like one of my American TV shows!

"I am 5% Finnish so I know pretty much everything about Finland."

@@GimbalosMorkinar I know a lot about a lot of countries it’s called learning history and having a functional brain. You should try it sometime!😁

Thats a funny meme although not true, because when you look at the conscripts from all over the kingdom it was equally divided and proportionally the same. No doubt that Swedens eastern half (todays Finland) provided an important part but the western part was just as important.

Paska haisee ruotsin rannala

Except that is false, & it was actually equally divided conscription. Together with that Swedens majority in the army wasn't Swedish or Finish, but mercenaries & recruited soldiers from their campaigns.

@@KeveTeller That was definitely true for the early 17th century (e.g. the 30 years war, the Polish war etc) but not so much for the Great Northern War (early 1700s) or the later Russo-Swedish wars of the 18th and early 19th centuries. Mercenaries, who were expensive and unreliable, were not used nearly as much once Sweden started being able to produce a proper standing army towards the end of the 17th century, rather than having to rely on either conscripted farmers or expensive mercenaries.

@@Lighthammer18 Vain Suomessa istutaan reunalla

With the lord my protector Make them bow to my will To the skies See Carolus rise!

Thanks!

Polish people have never forgotten about it. We sing about it in our National Anthem: 🇵🇱 _Jak Czarniecki do Poznania_ _Po szwedzkim zaborze_ _Do Ojczyzny ratowania_ _Rzucim się przez morze_ 🇬🇧 ,,Like Czarniecki to Poznań Through Swedish Partition To save the Fatherland We'll march through the sea"

Is there any lasting Swedish influence on those parts of Germany?

Most of them are dead

that's a banger idea

Abandoned due to many factors. On one hand it was uncharted territory and the Skraelings(natives) were all over the place so they wouldn't have been able to expand without sufficient military force which required a lot of resources and time, on the other, skandinavian longboats weren't really designed for interoceanic travel compared to the later Galleons/Carabels(they were mainly to sail across the coast and also for going up the rivers) so it was only possible to get to America because Iceland -> Greenland -> Vinland were close enough geographically to make a stop and resupply along the Arctic Ocean but the Little Ice Age ended all that due to Greenland becoming too cold to survive and the icebergs and sea ice becoming too thick to cross.

The corruption and mismanagement of the country in the 1700's prevented it from regaining it former position as great power. Then in the 1800s came the growing power of Russia and Germany made it hard for any Swedish dreams of becoming the most powerful country in northern Europe again. In the past was it also possible for a small country (like Sweden) with large amounts of cheap natural resources to build a large powerful navy that could compete with the navy of other great powers. Sweden even managed to get the largest navy in the late 1500s and early 1600s. But in the 1800s did navies begin to build ships made out of iron and steel. And Sweden which had been amputated and lost its Finnish, Baltic and German provinces could no longer compete with great powers in the world in shipbuilding. Because building a large fleet of huge battleships made out of metal had become too expensive for a small country to afford. Only countries with large populations and industrial power could compete in this club.. like Germany, Britain, France, Russia, USA, Japan and Austria. So retaking lost lands in the 1800s was not realistic.

That's a nice story but also not even close to correctly representing what happened historically. Rosling was a statistician, not a historian.

What a sad destination...

How sad that such brave warriors have been pussified.

I love that it was also a bit of: "WE ARE WINNING! DO MOAR WAR!" And then after losing a lot: "Be more neutral is what we meant!"

@@BoereViking yeah...all because of that cuckold of gramnsci and progessists

1700s*

This. And the fact that 50% Swedish army was mercenaries from all over Europe, 15% were disporportionally Finnish and the rest were Swedish. And their tactics were ridiculously brutal, so much so that the plunder of Prague in 1640’s is still to this day remembered. They had no business running around Europe doing any of that.

@@kungolaf4499 That depends entirely on what period you're talking about. The reliance on mercenaries was mostly an early/mid 17th century thing (30YW, Polish war etc) but towards the latter part of the 17th century, Sweden managed to set up a standing army (through indelningsverket) which meant that mercenaries became much less important from that point onward.