Terra Nova Northern Lite 2: Review

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11 ай бұрын

Hi. When I bought this tent I paid £500 for it without any video or even written reviews available at the time as it was a brand new model. 3 months later there is still no review that I can find so I hope this helps anybody interested in this tent.
I had had a long day with the kids when I posted this so apologies if it seems negative this IS a great tent and I will not be selling it - I just think anybody considering buying it should be aware of its cons as they are considerable of using in poor weather without the addition of the “optional” walking poles.

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@OB_1979
@OB_1979 11 ай бұрын
I’ve got the panacea 2(the cheap version of yours 😂), I’ve found it to be absolutely bombproof in very strong winds I’ve had it in 40mph gusts 550m up in the mountains. The trekking poles are the major factor when in strong wind that’s a fact I agree with. Without poles in I’ve found it absolutely fine if pitched correctly. It must be pitched into the wind. The sides where the main poles connect to the inner. Check my shorts clip for a glimpse of what it went through. All the best 👍🏻
@deaneager
@deaneager 8 ай бұрын
Hi, I just watched your video. Thanks for sharing, there are so few reviews of this tent, and it does have a few quirks that are worth knowing about, whether you're considering buying one, or already own one. I too have the Northern Lite 2, so thought I'd share my thoughts... It does need trekking poles in strong winds, I've measured gusts of over 55mph and my NL2 stood firm (I'm sure it was actually gusting stronger than this when my anemometer was in my pocket, but 55mph is what I measured). You're right, it is bomb-proof. However, it'll cope quite happily in moderate winds without trekking poles. The trick is to make sure the vestibule fly is nice and taut. I noticed your peg-straps were about as short as they can be, and that could be one of the main causes of your issue. Slacken the straps right off, peg them out tight, then if the fly slackens off in the wind (or rain) you can take up much of the slack by tightening the straps. Using this method I've had the fly pretty tight up to 35mph, and just popped in the trekking poles to reduce the buffeting from the wind. Incidentally, I found that putting the trekking poles at a sloped angle, slightly steeper than the pitch of the vestibule fly, makes it a lot easier to get into and out of the tent, without really affecting its stability.
@Pargie81
@Pargie81 9 ай бұрын
I was literally about to buy this tent after saving for a while, need to replace my vango banshee 200. Now i'm having seconds thoughts. I appreciate your video as the others i have watched raised none of these issues, cheers
@chrish8968
@chrish8968 9 ай бұрын
Hi Chris. When I bought mine there were literally no reviews available, only a video of Paul Messner using the Panacea (same tent - cheaper materials) with his poles in bad wind - which is what made me buy this. I've used this a few times since - it's a really great tent and is built like a granite boulder with the poles for stability however they are then in the way if you're cooking/getting in and out and that really really annoys me. It's also a very drippy place to be if cooking indoors with the door open a bit for ventilation - rain blows in quite easily as there is no hood at the top of the zip. I have since bought a Voyager which is a much sturdier place to be in the wind by design, and the shape of the porch makes for a really good cooking space. Voyager is a 1 man tent though really. I have also bought an Ultra Quasar which is 2.9kg so is only about a mars bar more than the NL2+poles and is a legend of a tent. That only cost me £400 on FB locally and was new old stock from a walking shop that closed down 10yrs ago. Haven't used it in anger yet but we had a full fat quaser when I was younger and it's a huge, solid space.
@Pargie81
@Pargie81 9 ай бұрын
@chrish8968 what I really need is something 1 or 2 man that is well made but has a bigger vestibule, I like the Hilleberg nallo but the price is madness. I like the akto too which is slightly more reasonable. I would feel safer with a bigger vestibule as I prefer to cook with my trangia. What is the vestibule on your voyager like?
@chrish8968
@chrish8968 9 ай бұрын
@@Pargie81 have done a video of first camp with voyager btw. Porch is good - I’m trangia (although I used jetboil style the other day for the first time and have sold it already). Was close to buying a Nallo2 myself. Went to look at one at Taunton Leisure before buying the voyager. Same shape but Nallo is wider inside allowing for 2 people on rectangle pads - might get 2 wides in. Voyager will only fit 2 people if using reg mummy shape.
@chrish8968
@chrish8968 11 ай бұрын
Hi. Thanks for the comment. Have watched your clips. I think my last outing was getting up to that windy - I didn’t have the anemometer then but just had a look at some vids from that day and I’m getting knocked about when stood up. 30mph maybe. Video of inside of tent in the night very similar to yours. In this video tent is pitched nearly into wind - its coming from about 11 o’clock position. I bought a Voyager yesterday and also an Ultra Quasar today whilst at it (both SH) so will give them both a good go before deciding which to keep (all of them probably…😂). Used to use a Quasar when I was younger. My NL2 replaced a Robens Boulder 2 which didn’t see any extreme weather but was really sturdy and never any frustration. Also have a Vango Cullin which is a fantastic tent but 4.3kg. Chris.
@teddyb4957
@teddyb4957 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting, really useful 'real life' demonstration. I was considering this as a potential option but having seen the point you have mad will avoid it....its not a lightweight tent if a) you have to carry poles all the time, and b) you are 'stuffed' if you just happen to brak your walking poles whilst out on a multi-day camp.
@steviesteve750
@steviesteve750 11 ай бұрын
Here's a tip for pitching without the poles: locate the poles into the inner holes on the blue tags. Adds more tension to the frame, pushes the roof higher, and means you can pitch it taught. It's a fabulous tent, if a little expensive. The thing is, the option to add poles or not makes it versatile, it's light without them, and if its stormy then they make in unbreakable, as strong, if not stronger than anything for the money. Also, you should pitch with the tail into the wind, you can easily add another guy line using a carabiner to help secure the frame even more.
@chrish8968
@chrish8968 11 ай бұрын
Hi. This tent is pitched using the inner holes and is pitched with its tail to the wind, or just slightly off. I don’t want to use trekking poles - I have never needed them before in my life so that’s an extra 500g that’s now needed for peace of mind in case of wind.
@steviesteve750
@steviesteve750 11 ай бұрын
@@chrish8968 fair enough, I guess it's not for you then. I always carry trek poles, camping or just hiking. I've not had a problem with mine using the setup I've described.
@steviesteve750
@steviesteve750 11 ай бұрын
@@chrish8968 I just realised you're the chap that replied to my post in the Facebook terra nova group. I followed the advice from Paddy Douglas and it looks much taughter, but otherwise it's always going to be a bit flimsy with a relatively unsupported sides. Ideally it nerds some fly panel guy attachments, but the doors occupy most of the obvious space so that won't work. I guess it's a problem for any tent with a similar frame design, so MSR, Nemo etc but the difference being you have the option to add the poles, which makes it a completely different tent. I'd happily camp in 50mph winds in it, but not in other similar shaped tents. Anyways, hopefully the quasar works, or maybe the southern cross?
@chrish8968
@chrish8968 11 ай бұрын
@@steviesteve750 haha yes, Hi Steve! I agree it’s a great tent and I’m not going to get rid of it but it’s a tool and will have its use in the appropriate situation. If you buy a trekking pole tent it’s very clear from day 1 that you’re going to need a trekking pole in order to make it work. I just added another video on here of it without poles in high wind and rain. I’ve been to collect a brand new in bag unused Ultra Quasar this evening that’s been sat untouched for 9yrs and put that up. For
@nittynattywalker
@nittynattywalker 11 ай бұрын
Great video review! Interesting point you've raised especially the vestibules weakness to winds. Worth noting that the hubbed pole design (which causes this instability) is a very very well tested and highly used design, although almost always on american backpacking tents (Hubba Hubba is probably most well known), almost never on UK designs. These tents are optimised for weight to volume ratio for weeks long trips rather than wind resistance, and are normally designed to be used below the tree line in a very much not UK climate, indeed the only above treeline tent of this deisgn, the MSR Access 2, has effectively got in built trekking poles in the structure. I've owned and used tents of these designs for a number of years (almost always with two people in them) and they all require trekking poles for vestibule stability in high winds (you can find many vids about msr tents on youtube), and I think the trade off (for me) is worth it, no more tiny cramped tunnel tents getting in and out one at a time, however I think they're probably not really the best design for a 'wild camper' who typically spends a night or two on exposed fells, more for through hikers using them for weeks at a time in generally more sheltered locations. That being said I have added extra guylines to the middle of the large side panels (Near the doors) using GCG Grip Clips (ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/grip-clips/) which I found helps an enormous amount in high winds, really stopping it caving in and adding so much resistance to snow loading. You could probably get away with just carrying one in the tent bag 'just in case' to take the pressure off the leading edge, also very useful redundancy on longer trips if any existing pegging points are damaged. Sounds like the other TN tents you have may be more well suited to moorland camping, hope that you manage to find the tent thats great for you! ATB
@nittynattywalker
@nittynattywalker 11 ай бұрын
PS My main complaint with the tent is that the elastic attaching the inner to the outer is too long/weak, meaning you get a really flappy inner when it's windy. Was a very easy thing to fix but for that price I felt like I should have too.
@chrish8968
@chrish8968 11 ай бұрын
Hi. Thank you so much for your comment and for understanding my complaint. I do also completely agree with you about the inner - it is nowhere near as solid as it should be and does indeed flap about. I was going to buy an Access 2 but I don’t like the higher cut of the fly - I went to look at a HubbaHubba which looks like it has the same fly cut and didn’t like it at all - felt flimsy. Can you send me a photo/vid of where you put the GCG grips - I was trying to think of where and how I would add a couple of extra lines? The issue is that as soon as the wind pushes down that cross pole a bit there’s then a load of slack created on the side panel which catches the wind, which creates more slack. It’s just a big sail even when the wind is just glancing off it. If you position the door best for sheltered cooking that isn’t with the tail into the wind but slightly off. I’ve got some vids of it on the moor (again, out in the open) in much stronger winds - 30mph probably as I was getting knocked about when walking. I might edit some of those bits and add another video. Cheers, Chris.
@nittynattywalker
@nittynattywalker 11 ай бұрын
Deffo agree with the comments on the access and Hubba Hubba, my Northern lite is actually replacing a Hubba Hubba and the main complain was the high arching flysheet. I think I have a photo or two, I'll have a dig..
@rufusduck71
@rufusduck71 8 ай бұрын
It sounds like you have plenty of camping and tent experience . And i understand your concerns about the nl2. I think all these similarly designed tents suffer in the same way with that top pole collapsing in high winds . Ive just bought my first tent with similar design .the vango krypton ul2 . Though this is an inner pitch first .😅 i too can add trecking poles for strength in the same location .but i always walk with a single pole anyway (i will fit it on the windy side and exit the other .) I guess its the price we pay for light weight and large internal space . I have loads of tents i just take the most appropriate for the walk /conditions . You cant blame terra nova for designing a tent that suits some one other than you .
@Jacho2901
@Jacho2901 5 ай бұрын
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