Some jobs allow you to work from home and some don't. There is no moral issue there.

Breaking news: Car company CEO thinks workers have a moral obligation to commute to work in cars.

By saying that it's unfair that some people can work from home, he admits himself that working from the office sucks

When covid was still in its early days I read an article where they discussed how CEO's felt about work from home. Many of them noted they feel a lack of control and I think that's the problem. It's a control issue, not a moral issue.

As a programmer I spent years commuting to office every day, only to interact exclusively with people on other continents. Home working just saves me hours per day and doesn't affect my work at all. It's not because some people have a harder life that I have to shoot myself in the foot so that I suffer too, it's a really dumb way to look at "morality". Now if my productivity was impacted, then yes I would get the point.

I'm a worker who cannot do my job from home and I have to go to work everyday day. I have zero issue with someone working from home. There's no moral issue there. People have different jobs. Some require a lot of physical strenght and a hard manual labour, others are just about intellectual activity. It's ridiculous to think that we all have to do our jobs the same exact way. This man is a complete fool. As long as you get your job done, who cares whether it's from your house or from the factory? It's irrelevant.

The amount of time, auto expenses, an traffic related stress we face on the way to/from work, really makes a big difference in morale/productivity.

It's like saying that it's a moral issue that programmers get to sit down all day while other jobs require manual labor. Jobs have different requirements, and if your job can be done to the same degree from home, you should be allowed to work from home

Being able to actually spend time with your family and raising your kids instead of hours in traffic every day is as moral as it gets.

Dude a billionaire and he’s going to pull the “let them eat cake” line.

Elon lecturing us on moral issues. I'm good

This is the guy so concerned about the plight of the blue collar worker that he’s trying to build his own robots to replace them 😂

Elon musk flies in a private jet anytime he wants. It’s morally wrong for him to be able to do this but his factory workers can’t

Elon Musk talking to people about morality - that's rich.

Each employer needs to decide the model that makes the best sense for them depending on the type of work and the ability to attract employees. I've had an in office IT job for over 20 years and it was very common to be called to work nights, weekends. holidays and even on vacation in addition to being in the office during normal hours. The company had no problems letting me be a laptop class worker for them on my time in addition to being in the office 5 days a week. Now I'm working full time remotely which is a benefit for me as an employee. I respect Elon in many ways, but this one size fits all opinion doesn't make sense to me.

"Does that seem morally right?" - dumbest statement anyone ever said about WFH 😂😂

Saying WFH is unfair is like saying salary differences are unfair. It's a larger moral issue emitting greenhouse gases just to work in a different location; not to mention wasting a portion of people's lives commuting.

With that logic, isn’t it a morality issue that CEOs expect to make millions of dollars a year while the people working for their companies are barely making ends meet?

Working from office is a disaster when your boss only measure your performance based on your attendance/presence at office (instead of how good you are at your job).

It doesn’t get more ironic than this. As someone who started out working in fast food, paid her way through college, worked decades of horrible corporate and 9-5 jobs, and is now part of the “elite laptop class”, he’s the last person that gets to weigh in on my “morality” for working from home. I still work over 40 hours a week most weeks. He’s the reason people still go to factories to work, not us. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. And if anyone is living in Lala land, it’s him.

The CEOs of cars, Downtown business development planners, and Commercial Real Estate owners are the ones pushing for us to get back in the office. Gee, I wonder why. To hell with commuting 5 days a week, I did it for close to 20 years, I'm never doing it again.

I use to spend over 2 hours a day in the car, $300 a month in parking, $250 on gas… I refuse to go back. Time with my kid is everything.

I like Elon Musk. He’s wrong on this issue. The place where you happen to sit with your computer does not matter. Saving gas money, lunch money, work clothes, and commute time DOES matter! Corporate America definitely equates some level of misery with “work” and that is the problem. People are tired of being miserable when it is completely unnecessary. Work culture is always toxic, but my home is peaceful. Where do you think I will produce more? Plus I start at 630am….because I’m an early bird. Plus everyone chooses how productive they are no matter where they sit.

"I work 7 days a week, but I'm not expecting others to do that." Same exact reasoning you can apply for the work from home issue. Just because some have to do it doesn't automatically mean everyone should. You can't nor shouldn't expect everyone to do the same thing. Times have changed, and for the better.

Did not see Elon taking the morality route 🤣🤣

It's not a moral issue. Eliminating the work from home culture around the world is about driving up demand to buy cars so people can drive to work.

Companies wanted to reduce wages of people who are working from home even though they are now using their own electric, internet, coffee/tea. The greed of companies is beyond acceptable now.

Elon is wrong here. There is no moral issue.

When your job is to literally be on your laptop all day...yes, it makes sense to work from home. It's not a moral issue. The office needs to justify its existence. Micromanagement or the company "culture" aren't valid enough reasons. Workers are smarter than people give them credit for. If their job responsibilities rely on them being on-site, they'll do so without much pushback. Not to mention, there are smaller companies who now have a larger pool of job candidates thanks to remote work. We don't say enough about the benefits of WFH. There are many winners from this shift, as well.

No, it's not a moral issue.

*How is it fair that the guy building the cars is making less money than Elon Musk? That's a moral issue. Elon is making more than the people doing the hard work.... But lets not talk about that.*

People doing those jobs also have to work on their feet all day. We should probably take away your chair. Its a moral issue.

Well he lives in the factory. So technically he’s working from home.

As a programmer, I guess I am morally bankrupted for not breaking a sweat and sitting indoor all day doing my work while many workers need to do exhausting physical work under the sun...

Sir, i am disabled. I use a cane at 22. I dont care if you think its morally wrong, i cannot work a normal job.

His ‘morally wrong argument is idiotic. Its like saying “other people don’t get paid more than minimum wage, why should you, that’s messed up”. Just cause someone else has it worse off doesn’t mean everyone else should as well.

I don't think we should have a billionaire with a private jet telling us about moral issues.

I think this is about "who is going to buy my car if everybody works from home" most of the CEOs pushing for end to WFH have their profits tied to people going out.

He works 7 days a week and who takes care of his meanwhile 10 children? He for sure not. When he talks about morally right, is this morally right?

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Who says work from home is not work ? Somedays i would rather be a barista rather than being on a computer for 8 hrs

It's morally "wrong" for you to have billions when others get evicted from home, but you don't see people trying to take his privilege from him. Same goes for the "laptop class". If you are able to do your work from anywhere in the world, you certainly will do that and avoid shitheads that broadcast themselves as "technology leader", but won't let people use technology to be present wherever they want. It's the same as not using automatic cars because it's morally wrong that "other people have to use manual shifter".

Proof that having a high iq does not mean you are intelligent right here.

“Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma, which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of other's opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.” Steve Jobs

Many people would say doing layoffs when a company brings in billions of dollars of revenue is morally wrong just because the company wants to maintain a profit margin

Work from home is justified from a moral standpoint. We shouldn't bring people down to a worse living situation just because someone else has it bad. We don't take houses away from everyone who could have one just because there are some people who don't have one. We don't ban people from eating dairy just because there are some people who can't have it and they would feel bad seeing others enjoy something they can't have. Why place an outdated and unneeded burden on people just on the off chance that it hurts their coworker's feelings? There certainly are folks who cannot work from home due to the nature of their work, and hats off to them, but they should be paid/compensated more, rather than artificially making things worse for others.

The issue is that laptop class, which doesnt really matter if they work in office or at home, are just not that productive in general. Most of the time is spent in meetings or sending emails. Yet they get paid absurdly compared to service workers. Thats the moral issue.

You know what is a moral issue? CEO promotes electric vehicles to save the planet, but flies in private jets that emit pollution directly into the ozone layer and launches rockets that are highly pollutive.

I’m watching this in my bed as I take a break working from home

Biggest thing I disagree with Musk on. The accumulated stress and fatigue from commute traffic jams ruins productivity and morale as well as all the meaningless distractions around your office desk or worse, open space. Like people coming to interrupt you for no reason other than they didn't feel like working right then. And so on. Not missing it one bit. As a sysadmin I've way too often felt like my actual productivity started when everybody else was starting to leave the building. And needless to say was getting way more done on the actual work from home days. (Thanks covid for that realization) Just because a significant proportion of the workforce has to be there physically to get things done doesn't mean everybody has to be, thats dangerously similar to leftist bs logic of 'if a few are suffering we should all go down to their level and suffer with them'. What does that accomplish ? Nothing good.

By this logic, billionairs shouldn't be billionaires. This is a dumb take.

Elon thinks it morally wrong to expect to work from home when others can't. He can do what he wants, when he wants as a multi-billionaire, when others can't. What the hell is his point!?

The real 'moral issue' is CEO are making 1,000 times more than the workers.

He is lost in the sauce. Good lord is he super rigid and arrogant.

If he wants to work 7 days a week and sleep for 6 hours, that's his choice. Other people have other priorities in life and prefer different work-life balance.

Elon, your workers aren’t making millions and billions a year but you are. Is that morally wrong?

Its a "you need to come to the office so you need a car...might as well make it a tesla" issue

Who’s gonna buy his cars if everyone works from home? Talking about reducing carbon footprint for commuting but not when you can’t sell or make his car 😅

It's morally wrong that you make 1mil an hour and i make $20 an hour working for you

So people who work in offices, air conditioned offices with kitchens and break rooms, but tree surgeons, you're gonna make them work outside, they can't work in an office but you can, that's messed up... Christ almighty, what a nonsense argument.

I would have to work from home for 3 million years to reach his level of wealth. I think that's a moral issue.

Richest man breaks countless labor laws. Richest man cites morality for why some workers should work remotely. Strong argument…

I work from home and LOVE it! More work gets done, no commute stress, less stress/drama with constant office politics and forced connections in the office and I'm available for my family. Elon has a load of kids and in every interview never fails to mention he works 7 days a week. He'll be an old man who made many changes in the world but what about the time with his most precious people HE helped create. Billionaires don't impress me and I'm not taking advice from someone who has their priorities all wrong. This is my life and I'll do what's best for me and my family. Adults shouldn't control or even want to control other adults. If the works done then it's good and if someone doesn't get the work done then fire them. Simple. All these gadget's monitoring work from home only tell me the boss lacks the very basic ability to monitor what's being handed in and someone I would never work for anyways. My talent will go where like minded people exist and we'll continue to flourish. Keep restraining people and they'll keep pushing back, move with the times CEO's.

Is it morally right to be a narcissist that demands engineers at twitter sleep at the office ?

It is immoral to be worth over $200billion when some people are unable afford basic necessities of life.

Exactly…i think Elon is a control freak and he likes to have 100% control and doing micromanagement. That’s why he hates it. But people who can work from home and thanks to many new applications it’s super easy. I am super productive when I work from home because I don’t need to drive to work 30/40 min and go through rush hour what stresses me a lot. Train and bus is even worse because they are full and I need 1,5 hours to go from door to door. So 3 hours are lost. I need to prepare food for work at the evening so additionally 30-60 min are lost. And I have more gas cost for my car and many other things. When I work from home I can start working earlier and end working earlier. Or I can sleep longer. I am instantly at Home when I close my laptop so I have no time on the streets to waste. I am instantly with my family and can spent time with them. Elon musk is a workaholic. His life is based on work. He lives to work. He doesn’t work to live. He is a working machine and he does great things. But he is a bad employer and boss in my opinion. You can’t compare these other jobs with office jobs. And he is so much for saving the environment. But if more people work from home, less cars would waste the air (and less cars would be sold ;) ). Less office building would be needed. Home office was not possible for auch a long time because we had not the possibility due to slow technology. And it’s proven that productivity increased in Corona times when everybody worked from home and it decreased after it. He’s comparing office workers with people in the factory. But I know some benefits from people in the factory, which I don’t have as someone in the office. Most people I know who work in factories have fixed working times. For example, they start at 6 AM and finish work at 2:30 PM. Then the next shift takes over. They don’t need to worry about if the work is done or not when they leave the next shift will take over and they will continue your work where you finished on that day. Me, for my part can not do that every time I do way more overtime than people in the factories. If we go with Elon’s logic, that would mean that it should be forbidden to make overtime in the office. Most people from the factory I know are shocked when I tell them how many overtime I have. It doesn’t mean that I do two hours plus every day, but in summary, I do way more than most factory workers. It’s not fair to comparing them factory worker can leave way earlier and have less overtimes so, in my opinion, it’s just fair to work from home if you can, and save a lot of time.

Dunno, farmers get to work outside, that's better than a crummy office, where's the equality there? Also, what about ppl that live 5 min from the office - should they drive around for a while so we all have an equal commute?

His logic is non-existent. The illusion of intelligence surrounding him fully evaporated here.

I'm not sure I would call working from home a moral issue but if Elon is going to play that card it opens up a lot of other issues. Childcare for starters. Is it fair that childcare is insanely expensive and letting people work from home will save a family up to $2000 per month without necessarily sacrificing productivity? Elon knows better than to play the "fairness card." He's a billionaire who can afford a dozen people to take care and cook for his children. Get off your high horse Elon,,,, you're so out of touch with reality.

Ceo makes over 800 times the average worker pay.....teach me morals lol

The moral issue is that he doesn't know and doesn't care about the well beings of his employees.

1:00 remote work has a place too. Less cars in traffic, less off the clock time commuting home, people work and learn differently and jobs require different things (like physical onsite vas online remote)

It’s not a moral issue. There are fields of job that can be worked from home which not only is good for the environment as they are not driving for example. And there are jobs like supermarkets or assembling cars and rockets that need a hands on.

I wonder whether Elon thinks being extremely wealthy is a moral issue as well?

This is one of the few areas where I completely disagree with Musk.

The evidence doesn’t support his claim. People who are doing WFH it turns out are more productive and happier. Which in turn keeps them productive. The list of people at Tesla and twitter reporting very serious burnout is next level. I know he grew up in apartheid South Africa. But enough with the slave driver ethos.

Wait so you can have a net worth of 177 billion dollars but no one else can, does that seem morally right? That's messed up!

“Morally wrong” LOL! I believe in a free marketplace. Therefore I’m free to find work that suits my needs. I’m a VERY productive employee working from home compared to constantly being distracted by others in a cubicle environment. As far as I know building cars at home isn’t and won’t be a thing in the near future.

I worked from home and i can guarantee you i am much more productive working from home then in an open office with 200 people in it.

This is nonsense. If my job is to code and I can do it perfectly well from home, what is immoral is making me waste hours of my day coming into an office I don't need to go to, and not compensating me for it. I won't do a better job, the whole office is a distraction. The talking, the phone calls, people walking by. The commute weighing on my mind since I KNOW I don't need to be there to do my job.

He wants people in the office so he can play God and walk around making employees nervous.

Elon Musk has been right about a number of things. Work from home is not one of them.

I have a long career in Silicon Valley at high tech companies. I've noticed that those who ask to work from home are typiclally the low performers who try to hide from their supervisors while in the office so that they don't get additional assignments. They also take any task they are given and try to make it last as long as possible so that they can do less work. It doesn't surprise me that the most lazy workers are also the same workers who ask to work from home. The highest performing workers are the ones who come in to work every day and never want to ask to work from home.

If more people drive to work, Elon sells more Teslas. Simple as that.

Is it morally wrong to work in an office while people labor in the fields? GTFOH

I like working from home. I can work as late as I want. (and I do) but if I'm at the office, I am very reluctant to stay and work late. Especially with so much distractions at work, people keep walking in front of your desk, or coming by to bother you about nothing when you're knee deep in something. I think Elon was trying to make the issue too black and white---this or that kinda thing. It's a very limited perspective/viewpoint, as they say spiritually. There is no one right solution. Wfh works for me. Some jobs work well with it, some don't.

In most cases that I know of, working from home is not a privilege, it's a company requirement.

Yeah right, you're being very morally right when you get your car stuck in front of another person in the heavy traffic, who needs to get early morning at the food factory, just to sit alone in an office desk and make some code programming... Says the man who probably never gets jammed in traffic and runs three companies at the same time! What a dumb argument!! Gee, why big midia still keeps giving so much credit for this guy?

"Laptop class"? This guy literally grew up in a millionaire family in a gated community away from people that pickup garbage ons streets and clean toilets in service industries like hotels and restaurants. As an adult he literally flies on his own private jet and has his own chauffeur driven luxury car away from people that drive busses or have to clean plane bathrooms....

I'm sure the people who don't work from home appreciate the fact that it means their commutes will take less time, and that their families will benefit even though they must go to work outside the home.

He owns a car company, of course he wants more people driving to work

What about tesla delivery drivers.. no office.. sounds dumb to complain about people being comfortable while pursuing liberty and happiness

I have never been more productive, happier, or been able to save this much time on commuting in years. Not only this, but raising children becomes an option again now I'm available more often where this previously wasn't an option. This is one of the best working privileges afforded to workers since maybe the 8-hour day. This is nothing more than an attack on employee rights, and we should all stand up to it. CEO's get to do it, and so should we.

How about we pay the farm workers and working class what they deserve. Use the savings from office space and reduced transportation costs to make it happen?

How is it morally wrong? I thought this guy was a free market guy. No one is forcing someone to take an in-person job or a remote job. If everyone wants to work from home, then to get people to take in-person jobs you will have to pay them more. Its supply/demand.

What the heck is he talking about WFH is not a moral issue!? It’s facts, some jobs require you to be physically present and some do not. These CEOs and their archaic theories, history of corporate America treating employees across the board as if we are less than clearly never changes. Like we’ve advanced so much but can’t work remotely? Give me a break.

If you want to work from home, become a farmer like me, I seldom leave the farm for more than a few hours and sometimes go days without leaving the farm.

Let’s see what he says when he replaces all those people with robots 😂

It isn't a moral issue at all. It's the same reason why some jobs allow you to afford a mansion and others afford you barely rent. The answer is search for a job that you can make the most from with the best benefits. Depending on you skill set and luck that might be alot or a little, but definitly don't shoot yourself in the foot because someone that accepted a job for less money/benefits is upset about it.

Elon is right somebody had to do the jobs to keep modern civilization going. And there's still no substitute for hard work.