100 year old ICE and windshield wipers ...so crude and archaic. What is this, the dark ages? You are so spot on with the air knife and hydrophobic windshield. This makes my love for RainX so obsolete now. GOOOOOOooooo Tesla!

You can’t have a pickup truck that can’t deal with dirty environments. I doubt that an air blade could cope with mud.

Air knife approach could be it. My guess when I saw the truck was it does have a blade but it's a variation on the blade in some of Tesla's patents. They had a linear motor that allowed one blade to cover a much bigger area. The wipers were probably just left out for the prototype. But who knows.

As you say.. Air knives are not new. But they loose efficiency after a short distance. The windscreen is very large and I think it would only only clear about 20% of the area.

I totally agree that this could be a possibility! I can't wait to drive one so I would know for sure how they're going to get away with no windshield wipers! You're a genius! Subscribed!

Didn't know about this existing technology but I did wonder if Tesla might have come up with a method of blowing off rainwater.What you describe makes perfect sense.

If you remember, Dyson supposed have air knife as windshield in their EV.

As far as lights, they can use RGB leds that would change electronically and have any color as required. eg: when turning left, left white leds turn orange and flash.

What about mud? You typically need wipers to clear mud when going through mud puddles off road. Some of it is just dirty water....some of it is sticky clay.

In Europe you don't have to have side mirrors but here yes u do even though that car has a really good surveillance camera system on it .It can see all around it and behind it even behind its blind spots

Tesla is working on a patent for an electromagnetic wiper system. Honestly your air knife idea seems more streamline haha.

I'm in a plow truck in Chicago right now. Wet, heavy ass snow and forecast says storm total 10-15" ending tomorrow afternoon. If I had "air blades" in this shit I'd be pulled over not able to see lol

Actually... if the air is heated too, the airblade could act as an external defroster. Even melting snow possibly.

Please remember guys this is an affordable truck. The basic model isn't gonna have some crazy expensive windshield material or coating to rely on for clearing the windshield. It's gonna have a mechanical wiper and motor. My guess 2 blades and arms. It has to work everytime. A truck will be used in harsh environments where the wipers have to work.

If they do this it would mean they are going to have a substantial air compressor on board, which when not being used to shed rain could be used for air tools or even pump up your tires.

Haha...never work in subzero conditions....something has to physically wipe snow and slush off the windshield

Tesla just patented an Electromagnetic Windshield Wiper...Google it. :-)

they only just finished building it 2 weeks before the event. and almost all concept cars have no side mirrors or wipers to make them look more clean.

Excellent idea, that also could eliminate or at least reduce bug strikes? ;-) I think they'll go to adjustable rear view cameras at the lower A pillar corners and one in the back (sliding panel blocks view) with the monitors part of what would be a rear view mirror (I'd like them projected onto the windshield).

Dyson hand dryers are called "Air Blades". They us a narrow high speed blast of air to blow water away. But they won't work over the long length of a windscreen. I'd imagine they would work with wiper arms but that's defeating the point. Who knows. Hydrophobics are ok if the glass is fundamentally so. Coatings will wear over time and nobody will want to replace the screen because the coating failed.

can't wait

An airblade would be awesome if they can pull it off, my only concerns would be power efficiency or whether regulators actually allow it (I assume wiper blades are required?).

I was thinking the same thing as well for the cameras, sensors and lighting all around the vehicle.

And now imagine you are driving in a winter (not california, some place where there is a winter) and it is thaw after a heavy snow storm. Very typical when warm air mass does wonder into the winter wonderland. The road conditions are 2" of sludge and snowbanks producing poodles on a road. Now you are driving 30 and a 18wheeler comes towards you. I am telling you from experience, it takes several seconds for wipers and washer to restore any of visibility after the shitwave covers your car. Would airblade prevent all that sludge and bud and water from falling on your winshield? Unless it is converted jet fighter engine they use to blow airfields clean, no. And I sincerely doubt it would handle chunks of mud that could land on a windshield like proper washer and wiper would (struggling and smearing mud all arround). Though if all you do is commuting from suburban to downtown LA and back, that might work great.

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I like the idea of air knives Very doable

They just patented a electromagnetic blades concept using a single vertical blade. I think that would look very clean and be very effective for cleaning the surface, especially given that it is flat; a single blade could easily get 85%+ coverage on a single pass.

That's what I have been thinking too.

They could be using cameras to replace sideview mirrors.

The alon glass is going to be Hydrophobic by default its surface is very smooth and wont pit as easily as normal glass so it will be very hard for anything to stick to it.

Hands on CNC - Actually TESLA has front and rear Safety Lights on the Cybertruck. they are located in the thin black strip in the Front and Rear bumper, on either side. also of note, there are Stills and Video of the Cybertruck in LA street traffic, it has a TOW Hitch, and a CA License plate and the Truck bed was open, so the Driver could see Behind it, and was Augmented by the Rear Display. you could see the Rear safety lights Right and Left corners in the Rear bumper.

In my opinion Cybertruck is a masterpiece of bold innovation and design that only Tesla is brave enough to attempt. I think is looks much better than run of the mill pickups. One of the main reasons that the Cybertruck can be produced at a lower cost relates to how the body is produced. The stainless-steel body can be formed by simply folding the sheet metal without the necessity for expensive stamping machines. Also, the absence of paint results in significant cost savings. A paint shop cost 200 million dollars in initial capital expenditure and has additional ongoing expenses. The painting and drying of is time consuming and is often a bottle neck in production. Cybertruck eliminates this cost and bottle neck. The exoskeleton design was necessary to decrease the weight of the Cyber truck so that it is not heavier than the conventional pickup truck despite its heavy batteries. Other electric pickup makers will have a hard time competing with this design in terms of specifications and cost. The bizarre appearance of the Cybertruck is a necessity to keep costs low for these specifications. The price and specifications of this vehicle are so compelling that it is a viable alternative to a conventional car. I would normally never buy a pickup truck, but I will be getting the Cybertruck as my daily driver. It costs the same as my Tesla Model 3 and has so much more capability and room. Should be great in heavy snow and won’t rust from the salt used on streets in the winter in the Chicago area where I live. Won’t need to worry that one bird shit will stain the car forever. The only downside when compared to a car is its large size which might cause issues with parking in some areas. The pickup truck will use more electricity per mile driven then the car but the additional cost difference is not as significant as with internal combustion pickup trucks. Once the general public understands this, there might be a whole new segment of population that will opt for the cyber truck instead of a car. Power outage in the house? Run an extension cord to Cybertruck and get by with powering essentials like phones, broadband modems, and rechargeable led lighting. You could even cook with an instant pot or induction cooker. Also, Elon confirmed on twitter the car may have a solar option for the bed cover that can add some range when the car is parked in the sun. I don’t care that other people may not like how this looks. If they want something that looks like a regular pickup they will pay more and get less. Not a choice that I would make. I would like to see this low-cost polygon body concept scaled down to a mid-sized SUV with three rows of seats with the last two rows foldable and removable. This would be a better alternative to a family car than a pickup truck. Scaling this down to an urban hatch back the size of a Honda Fit should allow an EV with a range of 200 miles for low $20Ks in couple of years.

What about while not moving or going slow? It's going to have side mirrors, wipers, bigger headlight and taillight lenses.

so... if birds sheet the car while parked, will have to wipe before? and mud off road? and snow?

I was thinking the something I think you right about the windshield wipers

Great idea! How can we get this to Tesla?

As Jack Rickard explains in his video you don't need windshield wipers On this type of glass because it is transparent aluminum polished so smooth that nothing sticks to it. Similar to Rain-X

Yeah that's one hell of an air blade on that massive piece of glass. Manufacturers already work to use airflow to clear the windshield, but you're still going to need wipers. Maybe they could work together in some way. Someone else mentioned the patent I believe they filed for using electro-magnetized rails instead of a standard wiper motor. One can imagine a blade anchored at top and bottom that would run across the glass without the need for two massive blades and a heavy motor.

I expect mechanical wipers to be the norm for this vehicle. It's an all wheel drive truck. It has up to 16 inches of ground clearance. It's gonna see mud and yuck. They can't rely on technology to clear the windshield, they'll rely on a good old wiper blade.

Can airblades manage slush splashed by other vehicles? Heavy falling snow? Interesting idea though!

If using air blades, even if not for keeping the windshield clean, would be an interesting means to alter aerodynamics. Next? How about plasma boundary layer control with the skin itself.......

The prototype actually has side lights between bumper and steel.

blowing air on the windshield will cause a lot of loss of battery power. I dont see this being more efficient than one swipe of wipers

What if a bird pooped on your window when the truck was off and parked? The air knife couldn't help you there

CFM required for such a system would overwhelm any vehicle compressor, like trying to operate a paint gun. Depends on the size of the compressor or air pump.

The only real challenge is mud when offroading. Could be a dual system where the physical is a fallback for this kind of scenario.

Yeah...they could do that, then add $1,200 to the price.

one word LAZERS

it is just a concept vehicle.

types of fluid?

You might be on to something. come to think of it, a month or so before the cybertruck unveil, Tesla filed for a patent for a new windshield wiper system. this could very well be that system

But how would the air blade thing work in winter and ice on it?

the bit between the bumper and body up front and in the rear lights up red/orange.....

They have a patent for lasers now

What about snow?

I'm not sure how anyone can be so sure it has no windshield wipers. They could easily be hiding behind a hinged panel at the base of the windshield. Making it cover the entire windshield may not be the easiest thing but neither is it something extremely difficult to make an articulated wiper arm that will cover it all. The only way an air knife will work is if it is actually mounted on a wiper arm and moves along the windshield close to it. An air knife is only effective for a few cm (an inch or two). One at the base of the windshield will not keep it dry unless you put an insane amount of power into the air knife. You wouldn;t want to use more power to dry the windshield than actually driving. In other words the air knife could replace the rubber blade of the conventional wiper blade but all the rest would have to remain.

Just hope it works better than a Dyson hand dryer, they're completely useless.

It could use warm air from the motors.

Bmw tried that like 7 years ago. Im not sure that tesla would design so many features around a singular air tank, never know though.

I doubt a air knife can work on a surface that large. The amount of air volume needed... Dippers are really only needed at slow speed. The Alon glass is very water repellant.

Lol ever drove in Tahoe? Mud? Highly doubt air is going to keep all the road grime from hitting the windshield

Isn't there a way to laser etch glass to make it hydrophobic, with an air blade that would be really cool.

Great idea and would love for this to be a reality, but I'm thinking that the 'red tape' from the 'safety authorities' will put a kibosh on this for some reason.

That would be a great idea if it actually works under most conditions

I think Elon expects this to be a fully autonomous vehicle. Not much need for windshield wipers and side mirrors when a computer chip is driving the car. He's expecting all 2016 or newer Tesla's to be capable of fully self driving by end of 2020. This vehicle won't hit the roads to 2021 or later.

Cyber Air Blades!

Dude I think you have it

it also doesnt have side mirrors

aircraft have?

North East lake effect snow…nope, won’t work 🤷🏼‍♂️

100 psi air and water jet

and here we are 3 years later, 1year+ away from production and its just gonna have one huge fucking wiper blade thats super ugly. none of the scify nonsense every Tesla channel was talking about has happened at all.

this wont fare well for snow and ice. oh and mud. also the energy you need for the air knife is far greater than traditional wipers so youll get significantly lower range driving in the rain. bad idea.

What if car is parked and water gets I side blower. Love Tesla

Not glass. Wipers are not needed.

As for the side mirrors that car has cameras on the wheel wells side mirrors is not you don't have to have side mirrors what in the United States I think they have to put them on even at this carhas cameras on the wheel well to see what's behind it Tesla has a very good surveillance camera system on

hail?

Send Elon a tweet and ask him.

The cybertruck, in it's current form, will never sell to the masses, only to enthusiasts ~ it is therefore highly unlikely that the truck you see now will ever be mass produced. What will most likely be mass produced is a vehicle that resembles a normal truck as THAT is the only thing with proven sales. In the end two things are certain: any vehicle Tesla has ever produced has taken longer and cost more than they promised ~ so will it be with this one.

What about snowfalls genius 😉

I hope Elon watched this...

PS Tesla does not built concept cars. they realise what they are gonna build.

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