I have been waiting whole day for your video. You're literally the BEST tesla FSD tester, mainly because you are honest and impartial. Keep up the good work. I can't wait for my Model 3 to get it

Idk why but I kinda like this guy. Good soothing voice and not in San Fran

Highly recommend a good cleaning of the interior camera. The same crud that gets on the inside glass of the car ciats that camera as well and reduces it's ability to see your eyes. Keep up the great work..

Yesss! always love to see your update videos. Can't wait to get this update myself man. Spring update, plus FSD 12.4.1, plus new maps will be a HUGE treat! 😄

I see a lot of comments about your radio voice….but I appreciate your commentary. That’s where you and cyberlyft really outshine the others. Honest feedback and consistency. Always appreciate your takes!

Been waiting for this! Thank you

Love you honest videos. Keep up the great work!

Always great and honest reviews! Keep up the great work!

Bro, I watch a lot of your videos. I used FSD 80 miles a day. From home to work, work to home, I never have to touch my steering wheel. I thought this was something they fixed. I haven't had a lot in two months.

Thanks!

Perfectly timed upload. I literally just finished watching DIrty Tesla's video on 12.4.1 and was "hungry" for more!

Thanks for the straight up view of 12.4.1

Shout out to Black Tesla for always providing us with the latest FSD feedback.

Nice. Thanks for uploading

Great review thank you!!!;)🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

seeing this around my neighborhood is crazy

Thank you for a very enjoyable ride.

Thanks for a great video! A couple things match up with dirty Tesla. I think there was one point where he was having a hard time to get the FSD to recognize that he was looking straight ahead too. Both you and he were in the sun and the trees. For me, the more interesting thing was when you thought that maybe the sun was in its eyes. just finished a long trip to Sacramento from Southern California using FSD. With 12.3.6. We theorized it was having a problem in the morning sun.

Congratulations on getting 12.4.1, hopefully getting OTA soon!

I was watching your video thinking damn that winding road looks familiar , once you hit Elm St I knew exactly where you were ...I was born and raised in Montclair ...you do a great job on FSD testing...since I don't have the interior camera in my 2020 MS I know I won't get the 12.4

It is pretty clear in all the notes and online that you need to disengage fsd to use auto park.

Great video. Thanks for the honesty and transparency. Clearly more work to do on this FSD capability before it can work effectively for the masses. Trying to make computer hardware and software emulate human behavior is so much harder than most people can appreciate. The smallest little variation in the real-world with both cognitive and adaptive behavior based on experience is not at all easy to accomplish. Hats off to the Tesla team for keeping the needle moving in a positive direction.

Love the design choice of your scoring graphics. :)

Enjoyed the ride

Great run and commentary. Solving hard problems is not always linear. Sometimes it's one step forward and a half step back. Like in his other ventures but the journey is wow!

Great video

I’ve been waiting for this upload why am I so late

It will never drive exactly like you do, but it will drive safe

'm about 2/3 of the way through my free month trial of FSD and with the new sub pricing of $99 I think I'll keep it going. Channels like yours help us to have something to build a baseline of what behavior to expect (I'm still a little overly cautious but working on it) so I really appreciate the content you make.

First time viewer of your videos. Excellent video quality. I liked your objective commentary. I don't care for some of the youtubers who always hype FSD when there is clearly much room for improvement.

Disappointed that it struggles with left turns so much. I though there would be some improvements over 12.3 but it seems not. I still suspect that is camera hardware limitation as the left/right side camera is not in ideal location nor can see far enough.

Agreed!

Do you think if I were to paint parking lines in my garage, would it be able to park itself?

Do you have the IR interior camera in your car? My 2021 MSP doesn't have this from what I can tell, I think maybe its only HW4 cars that have this. i know they have a retrofit kit, hopefully can get them to install it so can take advantage of the VBAM @ nighttime

I was wondering why you don’t put your sunvisor down

Is your Tesla HW3 or HW4 equipped?

Thanks for this video....I would have flagged the turn signals on the winding road. This bug has persisted over several iterations of FSD builds.

good stuff.

I already got the no nag feature with v12.3.6 (fluke?) and it does not care whether or not I wear sunglasses. It works beautifully and, after watching this video, I am not in a hurry to get v12.4.1.

I just realized the advantage of having a yoke. It provides better visibility of the dash.

upvoted!!!! 🦿🦾👽🇺🇸🔋🛸🏁⚡️

For your face, would it help if you drop your Sun visor?

Do you mean shade or shadow?

Thank you, so much, for your terrific work on these videos. I believe, in this one, you have hit on one of the main reasons Tesla FSD can never be the robotaxi Musk promised. Low glaring sun (and this wasn't even particularly low) will always cause Tesla FSD to fail because it has zero back-up sensor suites (Lidar; radar etc) like every other actual working and government-safety-approved self driving system like Mercedes and Waymo. Musk was warned about this issue by his own engineers, years ago, and it has never been solved because it can't be. Because of this, Tesla FSD can never have the reliability required to be government-safety-approved beyond anything but the current Level 2.

Thanks for the video. Other than the nag this doesn't seem much different than the 12.3 series. I've had several incidents on 12.3.6 where it pulled into an intersection like that.. one of those times it stopped and didn't go again util i pushed the accelerator. Thankfully it was early in the morning and there was no traffic.

I think you should probably take note that your comparison of .3 to .4 should have an asterisk in your comments, that is to say, .3 went through multiple (6)upgrades as they fine -tuned it. But .4 has only had one refinement so far. It may well be that by the time it has also had 6 version upgrades that it is indeed 5-10x fewer interventions than the 12.3.6. as Elon estimated. Keep the videos coming though - I always learn something from them. Good job.

Employee testers said they had to recalibrate their cameras and then it worked awesome.

UPL with obstructions will always be a problem due to camera placement IMO.

@Black Tesla, I would def. try to keep it to the high bar that we expect and report all the minor issues, incl. the turn signals not turning off properly, staging lanes or even the oversensitive face tracking.

No mention of how 12.4.1 was doing with regards to distance between the wheels and curb on turns. Looks to be way better than 12.3.x. Hopefully won't have to worry about that anymore...

What are you pressing to flag an issue during the drive? Do we all have something to press on the screen?

Hi @BlackTesla. Does your model S have HW3 or HW4? Sun glare has been a problem for Hw3. Not sure if that be overcome using better software.

I notice more steering wheel nags at night than during the daylight with FSD 12.3.6. Unprotected lefts have similar issues on 12.3.6 when the road curves in both directions reducing visibility and the speed limit is higher (i.e., 45 MPH). I had my first real takeover with a deer looking to come towards the car on a residential road traveling at 25 MPH. I did not want to see if FSD would recognize the deer's indecision. I still don't use the auto-speed function, as it will drive at a higher speed in residential streets where we have dedicated golf cart lanes next to the travel lane. I also need to monitor the speed limit signs on FSD, which intermittently on roads I travel frequently will show incorrect speed limits sometimes major differences (i.e., 55 MPH on a 25 MPH street). Here in SC, the Park Assist engages after FSD stops near the store's entrance requiring the driver to takoevr and slowly drive through the parking lot where the parking spaces will appear. I use this function all the time to get perfect parking. I did notice it does not navigate well in parking lots with entrances not connected to a main road. For example, I may set the navigation to a store it can easily find in the mall, then change to the desired store and then it can find the targeted store on the same road it completed the trip to the first store. It does a great job in the parking lot giving comfortable space to vehicles and people walking in many directions in the parking lot. I use FSD every time, I bought the Tesla for its ability to provide increasing functionality to the car after we purchased it. Enjoy watching your videos .

Thanks for sharing ! Can you try this to the previous "FSD Dead Zone" to see how that woks with 12.4.1 ? Really appreciated

What city neighborhood is this ? hamtoms ?

How has the camera been at night? My MY had to get a new camera because it wasn't using infrared but the software expected it so it would randomly scream at me to take over

When will I get the 12.4.1 update? I'm anxiously waiting with my 2023 MX

I don't understand the disengagement at 2:39. It just had the turn signal on but probably would have just kept following the correct path of the road, which seems pretty minor. Why did you stop it there?

Thanks BT, I often get updates a few days after you and Chuck Cook, etc. so hoping I will have it soon. I feel a bit out of step with the crowd, but for me, the nag is not that big of a deal. Given the choice, I'd rather not have it but it's waaay down my list of priorities for FSD. I typically just hang my left hand, palm down, at the bottom of the wheel and never get nagged. I would prefer to keep doing that rather than keeping my head bolted upright, eyes straight forward (and therefore tunnel-visioned). But maybe that's just me.

Everyone needs a papa

I have an issue with the rising sun as well. I have a left turn light that the sun shines on. The car does not see the green turn arrow and often slams on the brakes to stop at the last second. It also cannot see when it goes from red to green

If you have sunglasses or hat on, and you get Apply pressure on steering wheel required pop up, Does scroll wheel flick still work or did it change with this update

Have you tried calibrating your cameras again?

I noticed the hesitation over low diff train tracks on 12.3.6 So I wonder if its any more hesitant? I feel it gives pedestrians on sidewalks too wide a berth, sometimes crossing yellow lines though never with an opposing car. Being in NJ, it has been pulling me into the front door as well. I can't wait for 12.4.x.

Maybe use the sun visors?

Still haven’t received my update…still on .3.25

12:50 Seems like it tried to stop for the mini stop sign in the crosswalk.

Great video, wondering why when you get the nag you just dont adjust the volume or speed button. For me it greatly reduces me disengaging by grabbing the steering wheel while turning, and it is easier for me.

No nag is great! Which update branch are you on now?

I didn't think version 12.4 would be any better than 12.3.6. If the visual camera detection is that fussy when FSD is enabled, I will still not invest in getting FSD for myself. I did get to try FSD 12.3.6 for 30 days and I also saw allot of unneeded hesitations with shadows in my neighborhood streets, found accelerations are way too quick when pulling away from intersections. plus a few other things.

Question about nag….right now if I keep my hand rested on the Yoke, I never get a nag. This is the way I always drive. This allows me to use the touchscreen in my model S anytime while I’m driving. With 12.4.1, can you verify that as long as I’ve got my hand resting on the yoke, it will still never nag me or ask me to pay attention when my eyes are looking at the display for longer periods? I have never understood why people don’t just rest their hand on the yoke and then they never worry about the nag or jiggling or scrolling, etc. blows my mind.

left turn @13:30 is done correctly as the arrow turned yellow. imo nothing wrong with that in fact as a human we might have missed the yellow light

Looks like camera glare is a problem. I always worry about the hardware not being good enough, because that's a change that will take years to change. However, robotaxi might have a new hardware build.

😂😂Im black and his comment about the shadows and the interior camera having a hard time seeing his face kept cracking me up. I can already see the foot notes for the next version." To all our ethnic customers improved facial recognition even in the pitch black of darkness"😂😂😂😂

Great review

Hope 4.1 will let me look at my phone for a quick second 😂, It’s very aggressive on 3.6

What are you touching on the screen for issues?

Jersey in the DA house

The missing 'Nag' made the drive seem way more relaxed.

Need camera recalibration and/or cleaning

I’m in sunglasses 310+ days a year in AZ. Guess I’ll always have the nag

Great video. But please wash the ride before taking it out to test. I am new to your channel. But I like how you can articulate yourself and it doesn't sound forced. You should make videos like this frequently, my brother from another mother.

You can just have to interact with a button on scroll wheel to show you're paying attention. I never jiggle my wheel.

12.4 was to be very promising, I wonder if we'll see a big diff on the next minor version. Then that will be extremely promising for 12.5 etc.

Let’s go!!!

Doesn’t look like a 5-10x improvement as Elon said 12.4 would be.

I would think that the better approach would be to get some of the driving issues corrected more prior to adding in the feature of the eye tracking / hands free.

I'm guessing it's tending to be overly cautious with the .1 build of this version especially with the removal of the nag

Like a human maybe the upl would be done different if there was more traffic? I’m not adverse to going out across an empty lane while waiting for traffic to clear.

The hesitation at certain intersections has been a rough point for my car. Seems relatively similar with 12.4.1

I wonder if the beginning of 12.4 is worse than the end of 12.3, but the end of 12.4 will be massively better than 12.3

As only I seem to have predicted we are getting MORE nag and not less due to the inconsistent internal camera monitoring. I’m sure it can be improved but based on other Tesla software issues I don’t expect it to be fixed anytime soon. Also, a majority of drivers wear shades during the day for SAFETY and comfort reasons. Now this doesn’t work wearing shades. Other camera monitoring systems allow shades. And hats.

How about the dead zones?

imagine how good it will be by the end of this year at 12.6+

By the look at your windows, it looks like you may need to clean them and clean your cameras. Maybe that’s causing some of the glare to the cameras!🇨🇦😎

Seems the inside camera could benefit from having an IR camera. Or perhaps its not worth it since HOPEFULLY the nag will be gone entirely very soon.

How are you flagging bad behavior without disengaging? I often see the car do something “bad” that doesn’t require taking over, and feel like I have no way to indicate this needs improvement.

I thought Tesla employees were supposed to thoroughly test this before release. Maybe need a whole new set of employee testers? How could they “approve” the no nag interior camera issue. It quite obviously doesn’t work. Just like auto set speed. Just like “chill, average and aggressive” modes. Just like proper lane selection, etc. The only thing that improvement is noticeable in this release is auto park. Much quicker.

"No nag is a game changer". Never gonna happen for legacy with no mirror camera. My 2017 MS will nag me forever! Oh well. Perhaps they will be less frequent with improved versions.

What update is this? 2024.20.1?