Ah ya I would imagine it's a pretty big improvement over a 2020 performance model. Have you driven a 2023 MY LR? The interior improvements and smaller wheels make quite a difference.

@@CarsJubilee I haven't ridden in a newer LR Y but I would like to. I bet it's a big difference with the dual pane glass and suspension.

Ah congrats! I'm definitely a little jealous :)

You're welcome!

That's a great point, I should have checked for that. I would assume it's on? Tesla sales associate seemed pretty knowledgeable and I would think they would have turned it on to provide the best demo experience for customers. Curious if Active Road Noise Reduction would help with wind noise?

Yes it eliminates it totally I just had a demo drive and had the car all weekend. I placed my order. Big improvement over my 2018 model 3 RWD long range

@Anthony__420 hm hopefully I'll get another chance to spend time in an X to see if it was already on or not. Haha ya I can imagine it's a huge difference compared to a 2018 model 3. Congrats on the new X, I'm quite envious :)

I have the 2023 X LR and a friend has the model Y. My X is much quieter than his Y. The 22 inch wheels have a shorter range. Larger wheels always reduce range. The 20 inch wheels have a much longer driving range. I have no problem with my falcon doors opening in my garage. You need to check with Tesla service and have them corrected. Are you sure you don't work for big oil or another EV company. Very odd review. Love my X, never any issues that you have mention. Odd, very odd.

I'm guessing you skipped around in the video? I have a very short garage, under 6.5 ft clearance under the garage motor, not your typical suburban style garage. Nothing wrong with the falcon doors they just don't open at that height. You need about 7 ft minimum. That also poses a problem in many city parking garages near me. I don't 'work' for anyone haha, I own a model y which I've said in this video and others that I really enjoy. I even say in this video that I really like the X and would want one of the doors would open in my garage. I'm fortunate enough to have owned and tried different EVs from different manufacturers so I have quite a bit to compare against. What model year Y is your friends? 2023 and newer have really improved overall build quality and noise deadening. Older years are quite loud, I spent time in a 2022 and was surprised how loud it was. Do a quick search and I think you'll find most industry reviewers agree the X is not considered a quiet EV inside. That's one of its shortcomings compared to other EVs. I'm curious if you've spent time in other EVs outside of the X and Y? In any case, enjoy your X. I really do like it. If it would 'fit' in my garage I probably would have tried to buy one already.

Thanks!

Thanks for watching!

Ahh yes was very sad to see my Y lose more value this past week with $2k price drop on the Y :( on the flip side it's more affordable for everyone and I already benefitted myself from previous price drops. I wonder if we will see more price drops on the X? That would be very tempting haha.

Ahh both are marketed as luxury EVs but they are very luxurious in different ways. GV60 performance is probably the best traditional luxury EV at this price point on the market. It's excellent at all the things you would expect from a luxury car. Top tier materials and fit & finish inside and out. One of the smoothest and quietest rides ever. They also offer valet loaner service so you never have to waste time dropping off or picking up. But their service depts lack experience and if you plan to road trip this thing will max out around 260-270 miles in perfect conditions and you'll be stuck trying to charge with EA which is sadly pretty garbage. Model x is so hard to define. Ride is a bit rough and loud, fit & finish is average at best. But it's got stuff that no other ev at this price point does like the doors and windshield etc. It also has excellent interior space, excellent range (over 300+ miles) and will be very easy to charge on road trips. Right now, the road trip charging sadly might be one of the most important factors. EA reliability has sunk like a rock and the amount of EVs road tripping and trying to charge has skyrocketed. It's a nightmare with EA and I would 100% pick the X if you plan to road trip with it. If you can road trip with another vehicle or don't need the charging infrastructure, then it just depends if you want traditional luxury vs tech focused luxury. Both are great choices, I love my gv60 performance but I know I'd really enjoy the X as well. Hope this helps, look forward to hearing what you ultimately decide to go with!

Not crazy about the gv60 interior and monitor location. Simply a smaller suv. Stereo not as good as X. S/W not n the same league as Tesla. Price compare is much closer now. Oh…. Arise not as smooth as X. I’ve ordered the X.

Good choice! Ya I'd be excited to see what they do with a refreshed X, I imagine it would be pretty wild.

19s on my Y and 22s on the X. I agree the smaller wheels would help with the road noise for the X. But there's also more wind noise coming in from the A pillar on the X, wheel size won't matter for that one.

Thanks! Yes I'll have to look into a decibel reader next time, didn't trust the ones on my phone. I agree, they really should make the X quieter inside. I mean if they can make the Y a quiet car I think they could do the same for the X.

The 2023 is vastly quieter than its predecessor. Not sure why this reviewer insist its loud.

My 2023 model y is also vastly quieter than previous years :) My Hyundai ioniq 5 and GV60 are also significantly quieter than the X. It's all about perspective and what you're comparing to. Compared to other EVs, most industry reviewers note the model x is not as quiet as it's competitors.

@@CarsJubilee I'm don't sure were you get your sources from, but I just read five reviews on the 2023 Tesla X on KZfaq, each reviewer (5) said it was quiet or much quieter than its predecessor. Do you have stock in another EV? Are you just making this up as you go along? Quite perplexing. I would suggest you review other Tesla X's before stereotypeing all 2023 model X's. Are you aware of items that might cause different driving ranges. Lately, I have seen so much negative and false information regarding Tesla in general. Hopefully you are just misinformed.

@LanceJDanks I'm sure it is much quieter than it's predecessor, most owners agree on that. But most owners that have owned other EVs will tell you the model X is not considered quiet compared to other EVs outside of Tesla. Again, I'm a Tesla owner that likes Teslas but the model x just isn't a quiet EV compared to the competition if you've ever spent time outside of the Tesla product line. I would recommend you try out anything in the 60-70k range in the EV market and report back :)

Very interesting, what year is the model y? And this is from the driver's seat for both going at least highway speeds? My 2023 Y is noticeably quieter at highway speeds, the lack of wind noise is what's most noticeable to me. I've been in a 2021/2022 model y and that one I'd agree was louder than the X at all speeds. Glad your X is quiet though! Have you compared it to any other EVs in terms of cabin noise? Loved the X, wish my garage was tall enough!

@@CarsJubileeHis Model Y is a 2022. It does have the insulated front glass, but not rear glass. I understand the lastest ones have insulated glass all around.

I just took a 2000 mile road trip. I drove 2,328 miles, and consumed 680 kWh. That’s 3.423 miles per kWh. The usable capacity of the 2023 Model X is 95 kWh, which means that I was getting 325 miles of range. And I would guesstimate that I drove at 75 mph half the time. There were several mountain climbs and descents. So my “real world” experience is actually better measurement than an artificial “constant 70 mph on a flat road”.

Ya I think that explains the difference as I stated in my video, many reviewers I've watched that say the X is quieter also own older Ys. Very few are comparing the newest 2023 Y which is surprisingly much much quieter than earlier years.

What speed were you driving the other half of the time? My test was 70mph highway only with the actual miles driven and time elapsed very close to averaging 70mph. In real world non test style driving your actual mph average was probably much much lower than that since it's accounting for local driving, being stopped at lights etc which all can skew the numbers. Still it's encouraging to hear the X has well over 300 miles of real road trip range. For the size and storage contribution that's one of the best in the entire EV market.

I'll have to check for it next time. I would imagine the Tesla sales team would want to make sure that it's checked before sending people off on demo drives?

There is a tint on it, similar to those blue shade bands we see on older cars. Starts where normal windshields would end. That does help a bit but not enough against direct sunlight. Heat will likely be an issue as well.

@@CarsJubilee i did a demo drive of the x and the tint came down much further than where normal windshields end and i didnt like it at all...

Ya lots of things I don't need in the X but would love to have if it would fit in my garage and if 'money/affordability' weren't so important :) Oh I've always been curious about the Explorer ST, I love me some fast SUVs haha.

@@CarsJubilee yeah do I love my ST. Totally different feel from the GV60, but it’s great to occasionally switch it up and drive a fast 7 seat SUV. Also a great road tripper whenever I get range anxiety haha.

Hahah very true! That and the depreciation will be pretty steep with the higher starting price of X. If the used prices of a lightly used X ever reach the level of a new Y, at that point I'd have a hard time NOT buying a used X instead of a new Y.

I'm curious to try one again, some owners are insistent that theirs are quiet and that my tester was faulty. I feel like I'm just used to quieter cars (gv60, ioniq 5, 2023 model y) than the X but maybe my tester was not well sorted?

The demo only had 1000 miles on it so seems like that's just how they tuned the X. I've been in several RWD model 3s and they seem to have a lighter pedal feel too. Haha ya those close quarter maneuvers are a little difficult. But overall minor gripe, the Y is a very very good car.

Tesla show room is a good place to start, the advisors there know a good deal about the vehicles (much more than say a salesman at a traditional car dealership).

Haha ya very unfortunate I have a low ceiling garage. And yes most likely switching to the pixel 8 pro! Probably waiting for Black Friday. I've had every pixel phone to date, can't imagine going with anything else haha.

I was able to open the doors in my tight garage. It even avoided my retractable extension cord which hangs off my ceiling

@Anthony__420 any idea what your garage height is?

@@CarsJubilee I think 9 feet. My retractable extension cord hangs down about a foot and the door actually stopped just below it

Ahh very cool, from what I've seen the model x falcon doors do a great job with narrow spaces since they can raise the doors out of the way. Where they struggle is with low ceilings though, need about 7.5 feet in height to work. My garage just doesn't have enough height sadly.

Hahaha a part of me thinks the same, kids can deal with it because I want the X! Maybe once mine are a bit older where they can get themselves in and out without help, right now still dealing with car seats and strapping them in. Ahh vision is still vision unfortunately, no noticeable difference there. Really wish they had kept radar.

Woops! Yes it was a 2023 X, pretty new with less than 1000 miles on it.

Aw man that stinks :( good old Tesla changing things at a moments notice

Ahhh glad you came too there same conclusion as me about the noise. Some people seem to disagree with me about it but I'm pretty confident in my assessment, it's not a 'quiet' car by today's ev standards. But I'm with you, to someone like me it is worth the extra $25k because I love all that extra stuff. Unfortunately budget wise I just can't justify spending the extra $25k right now on extras that I don't need. But I definitely want it haha. Are you going to get the X?

@@CarsJubilee I am trying to justify that extra $25K and my 2020 M3 is out of warranty so... I am in between MY and MX

You are right, similar increase in range with smaller wheels like the Y. But in real world driving that puts it probably at best matching the real world range of the Y but I could be wrong. I've seen up to 325 highway miles on my Y at 70mph. I've also watched other range tests and none have reached 330-340. I'm curious if you have ever seen 330-340 miles of highway range doing 70mph in your X? What model year is your Y? I had a 2022 for 2 weeks as a rental and have had my 2023 for 4 months. My 2023 is much much quieter than the 2022, feels like night and day difference. That's a good point though about the 22 wheels but that would only change road noise. That wouldn't change the amount of wind noise I was hearing from the A pillar as the driver. Much more pronounced than in my Y. I loved the X, would 100% get one even knowing that it's not going to go farther on charge and that it's louder inside. But there's not enough there to convince the wife that we need the X. She's the one I really need to convince hahah

That's a good motto :) I used to think I would never spend more than 30-40k but then the whole EV tax credit thing made me realize I could jump in and out of EVs yearly and lose about the same to depreciation as I would buying something cheaper, thanks to the tax credit. Truthfully a used model X for under 50k sounds like a pretty good deal.

This is because you are not rich 😂

Hahah it actually wasn't bad! I thought it was fun, not 100% sold on practicality. Luckily regular steering wheel is standard and the yoke is actually an extra $1000 option.

Which version of the 23 MY? Mine is the LR with 19inch wheels. Compared to the X with 22inch wheels. The Y is choppy on rough roads but very very minimal wind noise compared to most in all settings. That's where it's even quieter than the X.

@@CarsJubilee i have same 23MYLR 19in. Its fine on the freeway but I live Los Angeles. Even in a nice area of LA, 80% of the roads are horrible. I thought about buying/upgrading to th X, but now I think I will just wait for the Lucid Gravity

Y is very good indeed!

Haha idk what to tell you, mine is :) I can say that my 2023 Y is much much quieter than 2021 and 2022 Y, like night and day difference.

Hahaha I've got a big garage by Philly standards bro. Would love to have a bigger one though. Those X falcon wing doors probably won't work in 99% of residentially garages in this city.

My demo tester was a dual motor variant, not the plaid. Otherwise I would have had a lot more fun :) though even the dual motor is no slouch. It was running the 22 inch wheels instead of the optional 20 inch wheels. My model y had a 15-20 mile range advantage over the x with 22s. So if the x were in 20s they would probably have same highway range. Longest range x according to Tesla is 348 miles or range, longest range y is 330 miles. Longest range s is rated for over 400 miles, longest range 3 is rated for 333 miles. The bigger battery works wonders for the S over the 3. But not so much for the X over the Y. The X just loses too much to being less aerodynamic and being heavier. Still best in class though compared to other similar 7 seaters. But the model y is extremely impressive from an efficiency standpoint. For the doors there is an override button on the screen that's supposed to open the doors if possible. Sadly my ceiling height is just too low. I've checked forums as well, you need close to 7 ft clearance height. My garage motor sits at 6 ft 2 inches, model x has no chance there sadly.

Ok, my bad, sorry!@@CarsJubilee

No worries! Loved the X, would really consider it if my garage were a little bit taller haha