Testing Every Relevant Ability for Boss DPS in The Final Shape (Star-Eater Nova, Stylish grapples)

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Testing Every Relevant Ability for Boss DPS in The Final Shape (Star-Eater Nova, Stylish grapples)

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Күн бұрын

Under 30 minutes! In this one, we go over supers, grenades, melees, and tick sources and analyze how good they are for boss DPS. Join me as I talk about Star-Eater Nova Bomb vs. Needlestorm, how good Hellion really is, and if any of the Prismatic grenades are any good.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:23 Star-Eater Scales swapping
02:51 Well of Radiance + Facet of Courage
03:56 Sol Invictus super extension
05:10 Song of Flame analysis
07:57 Twilight Arsenal analysis
09:51 Storm's Edge analysis
10:49 Titan supers - total damage
11:39 Titan supers - burst damage
12:12 Titan supers - bad
12:47 Warlock supers - total damage
12:59 Warlock supers - burst damage
14:01 Warlock supers - utility
14:33 Warlock supers - bad
14:54 Hunter supers - total damage
15:28 Hunter supers - burst damage
15:53 Hunter supers - decent
16:53 Hunter supers - utility
17:27 Hunter supers - bad
17:47 Grenades
20:20 Melees
23:58 Tick sources
25:57 Summary
27:27 Outro

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@paul2725 Ай бұрын

star-eater scales storm's edge goes crazy on witness

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

LMAO

@Penguinman2.0 Ай бұрын

Doubt

@sunupsmart Ай бұрын

@@Penguinman2.0try it bro

@lucaricci1987 Ай бұрын

@@sunupsmartout did the celestial still hunt normies with storm+koraxis

@Teastott Ай бұрын

It does 1 bazillion damage

@beeisme05 Ай бұрын

"Lava glob contact" is my favorite phrase today 😊

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

O _ O

@standupmoko9618 Ай бұрын

One of the few creators who actually know how the game works and tests things properly

@antony1397 Ай бұрын

I think the raid guides this time around really cemented how little most of the popular D2 youtubers actually know about the game. Hard agree it's these smaller creators who truly know the interactions, stats and effects.

@Stainlesssteele4 Ай бұрын

Aegis! When Song of Flame is paired with spirit of the claw or claws itself, your melee energy overflows into snap so fast it allows you to spam it pretty heavily. I pulled around 5.6 mil on hefnd using primarily that and microcosm, so it may be worth testing further!

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

Will try!

@griqs Ай бұрын

That's actually nutty

@knayvik Ай бұрын

deep dive on zorpalshot and the effects of godslayer on dps next please

@Zed-gj8vq Ай бұрын

Zorpal Weapon tends to be better for longer phases, since it just has full uptime, even though the buff is smaller. Glad they added Zorpalshot for some of the shorter phases though

@knayvik Ай бұрын

@@Zed-gj8vq are we talking about the same perk? i thought zorpalshot reverses all weapon damage buffs, and with the -30% dmg to female enemies from godslayer i thought it would be good for witness dps because the witness is really all genders at once

@disbled Ай бұрын

cant wait for zorpal edge on swords

@Sigmanation2015 Ай бұрын

I prefer rapidshit on my ballyhoo

@austindelacruz5872 Ай бұрын

@knayvik nah zorpal WEAPON is a different perk. It gives +10% dmg for each day you've gone without touching grass, maxing out at 25%. The reason it's better for longer damage phases is because 99% of d2 players go days without touching grass so they will always have it at it's highest buff for free.

@twocontollersonebrain9071 Ай бұрын

Finally a reputable source talks about warlock tick/buddy DPS as it’s close to being “free” with you not having to physically shoot them, I would like to see testing of 6 tick spam warlocks and if the shatter/unravel spam can power through other team mates possibly stealing your own instances of damage or not

@jmfe10 Ай бұрын

Yes! And it was really cool to see it's actually impactful.

@RBF__ Ай бұрын

The G man did a vault of glass with no weapons run doing just that, if you want to see how much damage it does

@disbled Ай бұрын

@@RBF__ G "Money" Meiners

@Enkeh Ай бұрын

Shatter and unravel both have limits with stacking unfortunately

@twocontollersonebrain9071 Ай бұрын

@@RBF__ I’m the one that recommended that video idea to him actually, lol you can see my comment in one of his past videos and he said “we are gonna stream it tonight” I just want the excel spreadsheet brains on it as well

@sauronswrath4063 Ай бұрын

Thanks for letting us know Fists of Havoc is still the meta DPS king!

@jameskadolph516 Ай бұрын

dang that spectral blades footage is nuts, I think I’m gonna use it now

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

LMAO

@bearlybearablebear Ай бұрын

@@TheAegisRelic I mean, you did one-hit a couple of mobs there on the newest raid, that's busted. I think it needs another nerf, doesn't it?

@Arindam1262 Ай бұрын

A fun (minor) interaction with song of flame is that Claws of Ahamkara let's you spam snaps back to back. Makes it a real pity it's in the same column as stareater on the class items

@FreshLavender Ай бұрын

It's probably unrealistic, but star eater cast then swap to claws would theoretically work

@Aohira6538 29 күн бұрын

@@FreshLavenderAegis already said in this video that exotic class item star-eater doesn't keep its effect if you swap it off so it's impossible

@azure98 Ай бұрын

I like how Twilight Arsenal is a shift not because of the DPS and debuff it can add but because its universally applicable unlike most of Titan's Supers where they just dont work on like half the relevant bosses in the game.

@steveheist6426 22 күн бұрын

Really and truly, before Twilight Arsenal the "default option" (ie, none of the six melee supers can work and there's a Warlock in the same post code as you rendering Ward of Dawn redundant) was Hammer of Sol. Which wasn't exactly great DPS but it was at least *something*. Twilight Arsenal being able to present competent DPS at more or less the time it takes Slowva to explode and then the babies to find the boss again, while also allowing Titan to apply weaken at range, basically makes it a solid default because... Like, what else are you gonna use?

@Exccelon Ай бұрын

wild seeing how much you've been cooking while still fitting in some salavtion's edge speedrun practice, good shit my man, i envy your dedication

@tgarcher720 Ай бұрын

Man, I love Destiny 2. The video game

@Hauseheaver Ай бұрын

About the buddy warlock dps rotation, not only can you unravel with arcane needle but you can proc facet of dawn and keep radiant up for the extra damage!

@TheAegisRelic 29 күн бұрын

Yeah it's really versatile, 3 easy to use Dawn procs is really nice

@Weebfox Ай бұрын

Thank you for what you do to the community, your work is highly appreciated! 🙏

@flyingwhale7176 Ай бұрын

I am so glad you put some numbers up for Sol Invictus + Other supers! We were testing it pre-tfs and it was just too niche to test any further but I was always curious.

@evilpac2327 Ай бұрын

Thank you for informing us so well, that's a lot of time and effort, greatly appreciated. Looking forward to see Warlock's rotation, particularly with Song of Flame.

@Lyynx92 Ай бұрын

Something worth noting about Song of Flame, the fire bird grenade counts for the demolitionist perk reload. As such weaving a demo Apex Predator or Roar of the Bear is a significant boost to the overall damage output without much of an impact on the grenade to melee alternation timing.

@CreepoZ Ай бұрын

Out of curiosity, what is your favorite damage strat / rotation? Not what you're best at or what does the most damage, just what damage strategy you find the most fun to pull off

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

The hunter rotations from last season were pretty fun, I also enjoy warlock Thread of Ascent rotations :P

@davuvuvbro649 Ай бұрын

ok so like i have recently finally decided to work on my warlock and titan and make builds, so this video was a blessing for that. so much testing and failed dps check have been saved. thank the lord you are the goat

@--Mars Ай бұрын

waow [based based based based based based based]

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

Hello best friend and spirit animal Meowrs

@Joshua-qv1ho Ай бұрын

Omg guys it's the fellow destiny 2 speedrunner: mars. Friend of destiny 2 speedrunner: aegis.

@AsrielDiurnus Ай бұрын

Always appreciate these videos, keep up the great work!

@lizard2361 Ай бұрын

Man you are so dedicated love your content and really everything you do for the game lmao keep it up man

@aivie_6 Ай бұрын

Great job on all the videos man

@JackieBoy777 Ай бұрын

keep up the good work my goat

@hitrapperandartistdababy605 Ай бұрын

Twilight arsenal being that much lower than nova and celestial is brutal, I really hope they cook with the buffs.

@noobmastersjugcad9065 Ай бұрын

Great video! I got lucky on my exotic Titan mark and got the Eternal Warrior + Star-Eater’s combo and it has been cooking!

@johnlong656 Ай бұрын

great info as always bro

@boxcar9407 Ай бұрын

Just wanted to say you've really hoaned your craft. Excellent videos lately. 🤙

@TheAegisRelic 29 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@KoHaku1229 Ай бұрын

My GOAT once again providing quality content for the community

@Rios-ov3xi Ай бұрын

Edit: I’m kinda stupid and severely misremembered what occurred when I tested this. So, synthocepts do buff the ignition damage of the snap, but only out of the super. I think this makes the melee do more damage out of super than in super. I’m kinda surprised you didn’t talk about synthocepts with the song of flame exotics. It increases the the melee by 2.5x, including the ignition. Though, the ignition only is increased if the first scorch is a melee and counts as melee damage, like with sunbracers. It’s pretty good with acrius if you can be surrounded, like in ir yut. It can also be used with apotheosis, which is kinda nice for an acrius rotation to continue spamming 2.5x ignition melees after song ends or just with a nova (though, in nova without star eaters feels counterproductive). I love the video and the amount of effort you go through to get good numbers

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

I'll try it out!

@cmdrmeldoc59 Ай бұрын

Another one is spirit of the claw with Star-Eaters, since you can actually spam that melee at max speed without any consequences. Used it in the Glassway GM and it was very effective.

@jmfe10 Ай бұрын

Oh wow I didn't know that worked. Cool.

@TheTural Ай бұрын

@@cmdrmeldoc59 Spirit of the Claw and Star Eater are in the same column. Since SES swapping on the class item does not work, as indicated in the video, that is not possible in any fashion.

@ryzardthewyzard6338 Ай бұрын

I'm confused. I've tried Synthoceps with Song of Flame when it first came out and it did not work at all. I just tried it again now, and it still does not work. Are you sure this is a thing?

@CarlosSanchez-gj6ux Ай бұрын

with Song of Flame & the Exotic class item The claw, it gives you 2 snaps at the start. I can do a 2 snap 1 grenade cycle pretty easily with its uptime though i doubt it would come close to Star Eaters of course

@diegocj02 Ай бұрын

Whishful ignorance also works with the flechette storm. You should look into that. Not saying it will destroy synthos, but it is highlighted in the exotic description, so i think it deserves a chance

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

I did, it's not great

@byrmaxson 29 күн бұрын

I don't think it's any good for boss DPS, but it gives Berserker a ranged damage ability, which is not bad, you can more easily proc Propagation from afar for example. If you tunnel the slashes on one guy it does respectable damage, roughly enough in my experience to remove a GM champ w/o running out of slashes. Because of the Banner recharge component, it has high uptime, so it's kinda useful. Not the strongest thing, but fun IMHO.

@AdamMichaels666 Ай бұрын

50 views in two minutes? Bro absolutely killing it

@NemSumeragi Ай бұрын

I've been running A2TC's AFK farm recently. I haven't turned my PC off in 2 days. I still don't have an Osmiomancy Verity roll

@GrandmaDestiny Ай бұрын

Well, Granny is unretired! Cholesterol meds caused the joint pain and brain fog. So back to watching @AegisRelic Great job abd clearly points out options though still sad to see Titan's downfall. Saint is upset!

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

Welcome back!

@whenthecoldbrewhits5912 Ай бұрын

19:10 iirc with solar grenades, only one solar nade ticks, but the globs from all of them do damage i believe(?) it's the same with most other things, only one instance of that respective DoT will tick across all players

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

Yeah I know the globs can independently do damage but I was just surprised that it's still nearly 200K a nade just from them

@dvdossbsvskfbdvav Ай бұрын

From my testing in year 1, solar and vortex nades don't stack and can only have 1 instance damaging a given target at a time. I believe voidwall, thermite and I know pulse grenades do stack, but it has been 6 and a half years since I tested this so it could've changed

@marceletta Ай бұрын

@@dvdossbsvskfbdvavvoidwall does not stack, thermite and pulses do though.

@richardcarson3596 Ай бұрын

reading the in-game dms while watching the video is pretty funny

@alabamaman1372 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the numbers. Titan prismatic is great in lost sectors.

@Meowow55iscat Ай бұрын

I can’t believe this doesn’t have more views or likes for how high quality this is. Keep up the good work!!!!

@fryinpanda9161 Ай бұрын

i’d be interested to see your thoughts on the best ways to apply buffs/debuffs in lower man content while still keeping good dps and roaming gameplay. other than that great vid and can’t wait for more content!

@TheAegisRelic 29 күн бұрын

Probably using Prismatic nade debuff (either Snare Bomb or Freezing Singularity)

@pixelpro3473 Ай бұрын

Theoretically, you can pre-pop Nova Bomb and Needlestorm if you time it really well, Nova Bomb Cataclysm will be more forgiving since it takes longer to reach the target.

@dvdossbsvskfbdvav Ай бұрын

There's one weird team damage comp I'd love to see tested, and it's using caster frames with attrition orbs and wolfpacks and spamming supers. With a whole team doing it I imagine you'll get supers incredibly quickly, so with cuirass thundercrash you could put out some ridiculously high total damage, although I don't know how good the DPS would be. With recuperation you'd have insanely high health regen too, so survivability against non burst damage wouldn't be an issue either. Probably wouldn't be too tier, but would be very funny

@rogerorchestry Ай бұрын

super helpful as always

@MrSnekLuuk Ай бұрын

cool to see arc buddy dps, I always wondered how much adding a rift on arc warlock would help a dps phase, fun fact, I outdamaged every person on our raid team when fighting crota with a dragon's breath shot > geomag chaos reach > dragon's breath shot > scatter signal spam (the rest was doing a variety of swords; guillotine, lament, bequest)

@tely101 Ай бұрын

thank you for your work

@fleefie Ай бұрын

Something I'd LOVE to see if whether running star-eater needlestorm or star-eater nova alongside Euphony. I wonder if the sheer burst of Nova outscales stacking spindle with a needlestorm

@Sparr0w6 Ай бұрын

My damage testing goat

@dreadnaught5370 Ай бұрын

Super cool video! Will you end up doing notable exotic class combos for each class? Would be a lot of work but also super awesome to see.

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

Might if I find something unique or interesting

@willphelps40 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the information. Even if you don’t test it, will you please share your thoughts on Song of Flame - Apotheosis - Demolitionist Apex Predator combo?

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

Yeah I'll test it most likely

@willphelps40 Ай бұрын

@@TheAegisRelicThank You

@imcclell1 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. Very informative. It’s sad to see how much the Titans have fallen off this DLC. Yes we got Hazardous Propulsion, which may be our best positive right now. I’m curious the impact it has on the dps meta.

@life-destiny1196 Ай бұрын

Eh, Titan DPS has been lagging a bit for years. It's not really news. On a more general level, Arc and Stasis need some love across all three classes, and Sentinel is also kinda lagging, but Solar, Strand, and Prismatic Titans keep up in most respects. Really they could use a Rain of Fire equivalent (imagine if Hazardous reloaded all the guns it worked with /drool)

@thomash8513 Ай бұрын

It’s the same buff as lumina u might as well just use that tbh

@HighFiveGhostenjoyer428 Ай бұрын

ergO soohum

@stealth6308 Ай бұрын

Therefore I am

@josiahjoestar Ай бұрын

thank you for the information sir

@mace8k Ай бұрын

love the video! ive been curious about a dps rotation on prismatic hunter using a star eater and foetracer cloak on golden gun and caster pf ergo sum. something about popping 6x stareaters with golden gun then having x4 ergo sum with transcendence seems like it can really cook. plus you can use surges of another type on your boots for your heavy if you were to add one in! would love to know your thoughts if you have any

@SivaExperiment Ай бұрын

Always love when these videos come out I’m not great at math and tend to dislike it quite a bit however the math in these videos I love

@Virsuu Ай бұрын

Ive been using star eater eternal warrior on titan with edge transit since since the class item came out my main issue is not knowing what to pair with it to take advantage of the void 4x surge

@aryanpatel9187 Ай бұрын

another aegis banger as always

@hondo2356 Ай бұрын

Song of Flame + Tractor + Trench Agg Shotty is very strong for melee range bosses. Consistently coming close to fully juiced swords during Herald while providing tractor debuff.

@SenpapiGlitch Ай бұрын

I just wished they’d also fix thunder crash hit detection. The amount of times I’ve slid around while trying to hit a boss or just phasing through is too damn high. Also love the videos, preciate the amount of work and effort you put into all your videos and information.

@duchoang5410 Ай бұрын

Regarding winter’s wrath, you can cancel the second projectile to save on super energy and extend the super. It literally doesn’t matter but I think it needs to be said for posterity.

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

It decreases overall damage, another commenter already pointed it out

@duchoang5410 Ай бұрын

@@TheAegisRelicgood to know

@jmfe10 Ай бұрын

Very nice. I'm really liking Prism Warlock, it has damage, utility, ad-clear. Here's to hoping Bungie fixes Star-eaters with Needlestorm (and cracks down on Liars grapple melee cause I hate hunters).

@gavo7911 Ай бұрын

Is Star-Eater’s bugged with Needlestorm?

@PREGAMEDISCHARGEENJOYER Ай бұрын

@@gavo7911iirc it’s an issue with its detonation and threadlings that don’t have the extra damage

@JUIIICED. Ай бұрын

@@gavo7911no, the super gets a lot of dmg from the threadlings (no thread of evolution)

@jmfe10 Ай бұрын

@@JUIIICED. Still, those threadlings are super damage (if they kill a guardian in pvp it counts as a needlestorm kill and generates orbs) so it should benefit from Star Eaters.

@llr9516 Ай бұрын

the goat of d2 content

@MsM-kh9xg Ай бұрын

Another banger from Aegis

@biddlez8607 Ай бұрын

song of flame with apex reconstruction thrown in seems to be quite good might be good to test

@ThePizzaDevourer Ай бұрын

When you get to solo damage rotations, I would love to know if taking Getaway for the arc soul is worth giving up the SES buff to Slowva bomb. Doubt it, but if they're close maybe some people would prefer it to make their neutral game easier.

@makecodgreatagain6049 Ай бұрын

Huge W of a video.

@philipt2798 Ай бұрын

Your guides are kinda perfect. I only regret that I didn't find your channel until recently

@chicknwing2742 Ай бұрын

You're the GOAT!

@gavo7911 Ай бұрын

I cannot stress enough how good Song of Flame is when you’re the one in charge of using Tractor Cannon on a boss. Not only are you outputting damage that can keep up with everyone else, but you’re freeing up your Hunters’ super slot to go wild with Blade Barrage/Golden Gun/Gathering Storm. Now if I can just get the Star-Eater Apotheosis roll to drop.

@TargetSniper365 Ай бұрын

Star eater nova is cracked and more than golden gun. Don’t need hunters. Stop being a moron

@KingFuriousFire Ай бұрын

apparently double exotic class item is still a thing, it just requires you to do some real funny stuff where you beat the mission, make it so your spawn isn't kept and it puts you at the beginning the area just after doing the symbols, there then is enough time on the clock to get back to the final area and claim the second exotic

@TheAegisRelic 29 күн бұрын

Yeah it's way more annoying now though haha

@KingFuriousFire 29 күн бұрын

@@TheAegisRelic yeah haha, still thought I would say something as it's still faster than doing chest route, until patched of course

@roguerunner14 29 күн бұрын

For the solar nades doing ridiculous dmg, it’s tough of flame. If the lava blobs from touch solar grenades direct hit something they deal their dmg instantly (not sure if it’s actually the total dmg of the burn pool or something else tho). Templar has a good hit box to catch a lot of those before they touch ground so instead of a non stacking burn you get a whole bunch of instant dmg hits

@imjlu Ай бұрын

Gotta say, really surprising that the 10% from courage bumps hellion to the level of ashes, which makes it ignite in one less shot. Ashes still feels far better for roam content but it's interesting that they match up so closely for passive DPS.

@Googahgee Ай бұрын

This thumbnail is so pretty

@nznaza3118 Ай бұрын

I know warlock prismatic nade its not as good as hunters one for raw damage, but I been trying it with incinerator snap, even when theres no minors around, assuming the boss stays in the nade radius for most of the time and you can ignite from the snap (not hard with the bigger hitbox of bosses) I get both abilities back quite fast, I wonder how that stacks overall, besides, its utility is great, it helps weakening targets with void, and applies a darkness debuff for facet of courage

@z-rossi3672 Ай бұрын

I have a hoil, star eaters band and I think it does buff song of flames recharge rate. Kinda hard to test without stop motion but it would be good to see if that or necrotic ends up doing more dps

@derekborders9647 Ай бұрын

Background music near the end sounds like a ringtone.

@joshuaroman6479 Ай бұрын

I’ve been having a fun time using Storm’s Edge for damage to change things up When I can, especially in free roam, dungeons, etc. it’s actually not bad damage with Star Eaters. Sometimes I get bored of Golden Gun. Will always love it though!

@PrelapseYT Ай бұрын

Something i wanted to look at was heavy and specials doing extra damage against frozen targets, which i always presumed to be negligible but now that silence and squall is so close to nighthawk now and it freezes way more often now, i’m interested to see how it interacts with your fireteam’s damage, if it can surpass golden gun. Let me know if you’d wanna test that sometime :)

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

Sure!

@AzN_Elevation Ай бұрын

Have you by any chance looked at song of flame with claws of ahamkara? Due to the additional charge there is no downtime with spamming the melee as once you use the melee the second melee is already back. Also since the grenade wisp has a slightly longer cooldown I believe you are able use two snaps before the wisp grenade is back.

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

I can try it out

@simondelansalut1661 29 күн бұрын

Hey Aegis, Thank you for all the testing. I found it very interesting. For DPS purposes, I used to go with my Warlock in Supremacy, Primary, and Apex. I go with Rewind Rounds and Kinetic Tremors for my Supremacy, and BnS and Demo for my Apex. As I wear Starfire Protocol, the goal was to proc BnS with 2 shots of Supremacy (to proc Kinetic Tremors) and then go rocket/grenade/rocket, then reload. I usually shoot my full reserve pretty quickly. I know it's not an optimized DPS strat, but it's so easy to go with. Do you think it's still relevant in the new sandbox or not anymore?

@TheAegisRelic 28 күн бұрын

It's not bad but there's probably better atm

@dragonwren1893 29 күн бұрын

For a song of flame if you use claws of ahmedkare, you can. spam, the super melee .Because your second charge Will always. Be fully charged So you spam melee And if you use heavy snap. With the fragment that increases scorch On top of solar Buddy. Almost every hit you do and your solar buddy do will trigger Ignite

@ruaruahh Ай бұрын

kinda curious about song of flame total dmg with claws of ahamkara. this exotic can offer two melee charges and maybe spamming melee only will also do a decent total dmg since melee deals more dmg and consumes less super energy.

@derekborders9647 Ай бұрын

Real interested to see how dragons breath + FTTC/RR Supremacy stacks up vs Still Hunt on Titan/Warlock.

@BisexualWrath Ай бұрын

I'd love to see if star fire protocol is back I'd combined with another warlock on song of flame and also if you run ember of benevolence now that we'll is official resto healing

@thealldayspecial 28 күн бұрын

Void wall much like thermite has often been one of those historically(talking ages back) “always been solid” effects, I think it’s just realistically the setup and application just doesn’t really pan out often because of how physical time and damage wise it’s not really concentrated the same way as other grenades which can lead to a lot of effect damage off target, 99.9% of the game that you’re going to get with it can be dispatched with other means even if it’s less damage thrown at them, and physically you can’t just plop the grenade on a solid target like a vortex or fusion, there is the canisters angle and bounce that can be goofed. It’s a lot of good on paper stuff the application is where it gets iffy.

@tuna5332 Ай бұрын

The primary attack of Winter's Wrath can be canceled with right click halfway through shooting to only release one volley of icicles. Lets you conserve enough super energy to go from 6 shatters to 8 shatters. May not be the greatest for DPS, but with Ballidorse Wrathweavers I think it's decent total damage. Also something nice is that iirc you can swap from whatever exotic youre using to Ballidorse after already casting your super and still get the damage bonus.

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

I tried doing that and it looked like it reduced overall damage (?) not too sure but you can try testing it to see if you can get some better results

@tuna5332 Ай бұрын

@@TheAegisRelic Huh, you're right. Did some testing against Carl and the damage for each right click shockwave was increased by 140% and the shatter by 20%. Swapping to it mid super or freezing by any means other than the icicles only increased damage by 100% and the shatter 0%. Swapping OFF of the exotic during super still gave everything a 20% bonus. Pretty odd how it works.

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

I think it's because you end up shockwaving before the icicles actually freeze the boss, which is why I was so close to the boss in my testing footage, pretty weird idk

@catgirlconnoisseur1024 Ай бұрын

There's a few bosses that want div again with the current dmg options, so I'm wondering if song of flame tractor rotations are gonna be useful. div->tractor is 13% more dmg. I belive the tractor would need to deal 42% of the dps they can deal on a regaular dmg loadout(this dps value measured with tractor applied). This assumes div players deals 0 dmg, so tractor requirements is lower than 42% but I cba to calculate that

@canwebemates1091 29 күн бұрын

Claws of ahamkaka work with song of flame btw. You can do 2 melee's before your wisp is recharged. Perhaps very strong if you have a exotic bond with spirit of the claw and spirit of the star-eater

@TheAegisRelic 29 күн бұрын

I'll be testing this as well :P

@Vintage940 28 күн бұрын

arent they both in the second column

@canwebemates1091 28 күн бұрын

@@Vintage940 Oh yea wait thats true, you're right my bad. Maybe claws can add a bit of extra dps? Because the super wil end quicker with doing 2 melee's

@calebhenry3601 29 күн бұрын

12:30 I've seen video log of Banner shield being able to "block" non anime eyes/"jump" Witness attacks. Do you think it'd be practical to use that over Twilight Arsenal in that specific scenario?

@TheAegisRelic 28 күн бұрын

Considering that people can just move to the side instead of wasting an entire person's worth of damage I'd say no

@snivyland2878 Ай бұрын

I think one thing that stasis ability’s in general need to be accounted for is that they give a 10% stacking debuff for non primary’s and ability’s which might effect testing like what you did for bleakwatcher. Although the effective debuff is lower due to the naturally limited uptime.

@MrLongshotbob Ай бұрын

What about a video talking about the solo witness damage rotation? Could be a short if you're quick, but a larger video could be good too.

@TheAegisRelic 29 күн бұрын

Yeah that will be in the rotation ranking for sure :)

@redjedi3099 Ай бұрын

How would song of flame go with a necrotic/grasps class item? That gives you 2 melees that afaik deal extra damage from poison

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

That is a combo I can test since SES and Necrotic are available together

@DiffusedRiven Ай бұрын

I don't know if you tested it but chain lightning basically has 0 cooldown whilst transcendent, it probably isn't competitive in the DPS department but I'm curious either way. Also did you test/consider testing song of flame with star eater + claw?

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

Yeah I can try it out

@admiraltraunt6150 Ай бұрын

AEGIS LOOKING INTO THE TICK BUDDY ROTATIONS YEAH BABEY

@trey_drums1 Ай бұрын

Would you consider the rocket dmg from Hazardous rockets ability damage because it procs off of class ability? And would it be better to run hazardous for your rotations or star eaters/cuirass for the bonus dmg??

@TheAegisRelic Ай бұрын

I'll touch on Exodus Rocket volley damage at some point, I lowkey forgot to put it in this video even though I have data stuff done for it haha

@trey_drums1 25 күн бұрын

@@TheAegisReliccool. Look forward to it as a titan main.

@TheUnclemike Ай бұрын

Thank you sir

@rigmaroll Ай бұрын

Was using song of flame with the with the melee and acrius which worked really well and is pretty safe with the dr

@PhoenixPalmer88 Ай бұрын

For Twilight: I think that buff is actually coming in August per the TWAB. I do believe they said in the stream it was coming at Act 2 launch but I think that was a miscommunication.

@TheAegisRelic 29 күн бұрын

Yeah, I noticed that later on, thanks for pointing it out!

@jacksonallen703 29 күн бұрын

If u use the frag that gives jolt and weaken ur warlock prismatic grande can weaken and ur arc can jolt this is kool because in solo content u can use expanding abyss and get a jolt off wonder what a rotation like this with edge transient does

@Timb_bottomtext_ 28 күн бұрын

Have you done damage testing on the spirit of necrotic vs the original exotic? Also wouldn't that theoretically be the most damage you could output with song of flame along with spirit of star eater?

@TheAegisRelic 24 күн бұрын

Yeah it's rough, I added a new value in the sheet