Testing out one of the cheapest solar panels on ebay with MC4 connectors £39.48 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50W-12V-Se...
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@ReviewsandTech3 жыл бұрын
LOL, I just bought a very similar solar panel that ;looks just like this and states that it will provide 250 watts of power. I paid $70 and it also came with a controller and some cables, OMG what a joke! I am so sending it back to the seller ASAP! Thanks Mark for making this video as well and have an awesome day too.
@spudnickuk Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. This shows a basic setup that hits the nail on the head.
@fidelcatsro69483 жыл бұрын
true test would be to connect a 10amp ammeter from one of the panel lines to the input of a 50watt 12v bulb as load for a minute or so (without any battery or controller connection) and see how many amps going through at full shiny day to see if its really capable of 50watts...
@VMUKUMAR3 жыл бұрын
.50mah I bought a fake one haha
@fidelcatsro69483 жыл бұрын
@@VMUKUMAR i bought a 100watt solar panel for almost 200USD few yrs ago...you can take a 10 amp ammeter and connect it directly for a few seconds to the panel in the hot sun to test short circuit current...it should be around at 3amps or so for 18v panel..do not connect longer than few seconds for you to read the meter because it it technically short circuit and it will heat up the panel
@paulhaywood5197 Жыл бұрын
I think if the cable is to long, voltage would be lost. I was told every metre looses 1 volt. That's on low d c voltage, and amps. The gauge of cables also plays a factor, ie the resistance. Good idea to check out information on the tube. Thanks for your demonstration, good video, Paul.
@MrMeltedwellies Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info paul
@jimmybrad156 Жыл бұрын
The lower the amps (current, I) the lower the voltage drop (volts, V). So the fuller the battery, the less it will pull from the panel, the less voltage drop you'll get, so for keeping a battery floated it won't make a great difference, unless your cable is really thin and long and your battery is a long way from full and the panel is in full sunlight.
@lawrencedavidson6195 Жыл бұрын
I have had many different sizes/wattage small panels for experimental reasons. That is a 15-20 watt panel. Greetings from Jamaica.
@PaulPaid Жыл бұрын
Kingstonian here. What's your current setup?
@lawrencedavidson6195 Жыл бұрын
@@PaulPaid 650 watts of panels. I need to upgrade inverter to pure sine wave and a bigger battery bank soon. I am not using all the power the panels are making.
@pinchasjm Жыл бұрын
I need some used 250 watt solar panels
@elchuppacabre Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Guantanamo Bay.
@lawrencedavidson6195 Жыл бұрын
@@PaulPaid I got my 1000 watt Renogy pure sine wave inverter a few months now and i'm very pleased with it.
@ParedCheese3 жыл бұрын
The robin seemed to be enjoying it.😁😁
@manuelmichaca33104 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I just got one similar to that, so it was a relief to see it work
@MrMeltedwellies4 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍 thanks for watching Manuel
@lifeintheuktutor2 жыл бұрын
Works for electric stove or mobile charging etc?
@gencouple3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Mark, just what I was looking for.
@MrMeltedwellies3 жыл бұрын
Very welcome
@ANTHONYBOOTH Жыл бұрын
is the output negative not common to the battery negative then? - if so, then I think that ground common circuits will simply need their own fuse + optional ammeter in series with the positive rail... - I just ordered a 30 watter off ebay, - wondering if all those phat cables are provided..... (my battery grounds are universally common as well as all dc circuits....)
@HansenHa9 ай бұрын
You don’t need to use a converter if you have to charge the battery for your laptop you can use the 12 V
@tptoodle2 ай бұрын
but how would you connect the laptop to this type of a setup?
@stu-j2 жыл бұрын
I want one to run a 12v heater for my small workshop. Buy have it connected to a 12v car battery all the time so I can even run the heater for a few hours in the evening.
@restage134 жыл бұрын
First conection to Battery and 2 Connect the solar panel .
@thrashfan4ever3 жыл бұрын
you forgot the charge control mppt you have to have a fuse block at least a 60 or higher u should watch will browse tutorial as well and cables to go from mppt controller and i t hank it goes solar panel battery then charge controller then inverter butt i could be wrong will browse has great tutorials i am going to get me a back up inverter and a couple of solar panels for my amps and computer
@capodad2u8 ай бұрын
Many of these cheap Chinese mppt controller can be connected directly to the PV first.
@capodad2u8 ай бұрын
Also get a boost mppt controller and you can directly plug in and charge your e bike batteries very efficiently.
@greatrivermaple81205 ай бұрын
Hello! We have this same unit (ours is a 40A), but I can't get something to work and was wondering if you could provide insight. Everything is seemingly connected correctly. However on the main screen I don't see the solar panels that should show up on the right hand side and the battery is not being charged. Is there something I did wrong? Is it not functioning properly? Thanks
@Gr8Brit2 жыл бұрын
I'll be getting a more expensive one but is the box like a junction box where I wire light and possibly a fan
@gencouple3 жыл бұрын
Mark, Given I have two batteries on my campervan, one for the campers engine and the other a leisure battery. Which battery do you recommend I feed via the solar panel?
@jamesmccarthy9493 Жыл бұрын
That depends on how it is set up and what you use it for. If the camper sits for months on end without running to charge the cranking battery, trickle charge it so the motor will turn over next time you hit the key. On the other hand, if you use the "leisure" battery more often, the more wattage available the better! But it needs to be charge controlled with a decent quality charge controller that has a load circuit capable of around 7.5 amps (12v fridges etc.). I have both for my set up that comprises of two deep cycle batteries at around 105ah (lead acid) connected in parallel for the "leisure" battery, 400w solar and 15 amp controller, this also charges via relay isolator directly from the alternator/cranking battery. One cranking battery 900cca 12v, with a 40watt solar trickle charger that has an inbuilt thermal overload switch. My setup is not ideal but copes sufficiently for a family of 4.5 camping for 2/3 nights in tropical Qld Australia. That includes running a big 12v refrigerator and fans, lights and charging devices. Occasionally powering a Bluetooth speaker or similar. The idea is to use the excess power from the solar and keep the batteries at a state of charge, batteries are century batteries that are all 5 years old. Regularly topped up with distilled water.
@stevegurner8676 Жыл бұрын
You ALL WAYS connect the charge control to the batteries first that way the charge control unit will know what sort of batteries you are using you risk compromising the system if you do not
@neillroy Жыл бұрын
He had me at.. Hmm must read the instructions LOL
@videomentaryproductionschannel3 ай бұрын
You Need to plug in the Battery First Not the Solar Panal thats really Important so the Computer can set up , Read the Manaul
@Ryuuken243 жыл бұрын
This is not a 50 watts panel but, close to 25W ish, none of these panel are a 100% equal output but, this one will charge up a 12volt battery at 1.4 amps, that is not bad value if it works 12 hours a day for one battery.
@VerifyIT3 жыл бұрын
Nice connection tutorial, but is it pulling 50W of power? Or even close to that?
@parkerbohnn3 ай бұрын
It looks like a 40 watt solar panel.
@chrisneedham58034 жыл бұрын
Nice piece of kit and not a bad price 🍷🍺👍
@MrMeltedwellies4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris worked really well 🍷☀
@waynesmith3318Ай бұрын
I have read the instructions and installed quite a few charge controllers and all of them said to connect your fully charged battery bank to the controller first, then connect the solar panels or you risk damaging the controller. But what do I know.
@djc632317 күн бұрын
I saw this unit on amazon advertised to be 4000 or 6000 watts for $160
@anthonybiancone37808 ай бұрын
Did you connect the solar panel Before connecting the Battery? That is a big NO NO.... Also a lot of comments have no idea what they are talking about.
@727jetjumper3 жыл бұрын
how many watts is the panel supplying? On the controller, the "Load" (lightbulb) output, is where you connect those things you want to power.
@grimthreeper41122 жыл бұрын
was supplying 13.7v in the vid
@727jetjumper2 жыл бұрын
@@grimthreeper4112 watts ≠ volts
@alyssadziminski7034 Жыл бұрын
How do I hook up a generator to my breaker box?
@weriesblack13755 ай бұрын
The controller limits what power output it has so a 20a will output more then a 10a so aslong as the panel and controler is in range and it wont over charge the controler your good google what you need but general rule of thumb i go with is 10a controler x 12v gives the maximum size solar panel it will handle obviously bigger panel is more power but the controler output limit is what goes to the battery. Hope that helps.
@mxartesano Жыл бұрын
What cable type are you using?
@gnarly7064 жыл бұрын
Volts × Amp = Watts.
@Timovd3 жыл бұрын
Volt-ampere
@bartsshorts2 жыл бұрын
err, also, amps x volts = watts
@stewartrogers4943 жыл бұрын
always hook battery fist to controller only after hook up solar panel to charge controller also shad solar panel before hooking up ....S
@geofcapes26423 жыл бұрын
The 13.7 v was the panel output Nice video 😎
@HarksModding2 жыл бұрын
13.7 display on the controller is the float voltage its to stop it over feeding the battery. 13.5 is better and what i have mine set on.
@thomaslucas159 Жыл бұрын
I bought a similar solar package recently and it didn’t come with everything in your video, same charge controller, smaller solar panel,
@eddt4302 жыл бұрын
Howdy great vid. Just wondering how the solar panel is holding up? 👍
@kenchan57748 ай бұрын
I have the same controller, same 18W panel. But even under the full sun for 4 hours, I still cannot raise the battery bar indicator. How long did you take to full charge your big battery??
@MrMeltedwellies8 ай бұрын
tow days
@iraja3332 жыл бұрын
Thankyou🙏
@gnarly7064 жыл бұрын
Need about 200 watt or 300 watt solar panel to run fridge with inverter.
@MrMeltedwellies4 жыл бұрын
dont use a fridge
@petermurphy53024 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I've just bought a second hand 100W panel and am gathering up the other bits and pieces. You'd said you could run a laptop but I was thinking of even trying to plug my washing machine (on cold wash) into the inverter. It says online that would be about 250 watt hours so I'm guessing a medium deep cycle battery could do that. Would you agree that would be feasible once or twice as an experiment?
@MrMeltedwellies4 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter not sure is it a portable washing machine !!
@petermurphy53024 жыл бұрын
@@MrMeltedwellies just an ordinary one but if a 100ah battery at 12 v is 1200 watt hours and you can use half of it to protect the battery, then on paper, a 250 watt hour wash cycle would be fine, no?
@Cornz38 Жыл бұрын
@@petermurphy5302 No, the startup current of the motor can be huge. Even my 1kw pure sine inverter wont run a lawn mower, let alone a washing machine.
@mitsuoo10128 ай бұрын
At 30% more watts and that's what the washing machine will draw on start up.
@tptoodle2 ай бұрын
thank you for the video. i was thinking of buying this unit from aliexpress for my motorbike as a trickle charger. I am guessing that would work, right?
@MrMeltedwellies2 ай бұрын
Yes it will
@zabby5332 жыл бұрын
Arrow pointing to batt means batt voltage, you should of shown the arrow pointing to panel to see the output of the panel?
@dollymakercreativity35442 жыл бұрын
I would love to be able to charge my mobility scooter like this, on ebay i see Mobility Scooter Solar Panel Battery Charger 10w 10 watt 24v 24 volt +2.5m lead, they say you get a trickle of a charge would I be throwing my money away by getting one.
@andyjack2368 Жыл бұрын
nice cool how much AMP solar charger have may i asked ? i have one it is 30A solar charger how much watts is your panel may i asked
@zakariabinabdullahkurakura38702 жыл бұрын
For hi Speed charger make 3x 12vsolar penal series...hi ampere...
@tazfitfood4077 Жыл бұрын
Good review, thank you
@MrMeltedwellies Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jefersonnl3 жыл бұрын
What does a controller like that understands as "float charge"? Mine(model identical to yours) would start upping the voltage at the start of the charge(early morning, 6 AM), than, as it gets to 14.4v(midday), it will keep it there until the end of the day(6 PM), even if I don't discharge the battery during the night, and even as the battery is pulling less than 200mAh of current from the charger. Shouldn't the charger go to "float charge" and try to keep my battery stable, from 13.0v to 13.7v (adjustable), when it is no longer getting usable current from the charger? Isn't that the dictionary definition of "float charge"? Ps: My inverter only turns itself on at 6 PM, so it can't be blamed for any "current leak", all the power produced by the solar panel during the day hours has only the battery as its consumer.
@oilpond3 жыл бұрын
yeah but i doubt this old guy understands that hmm did you set it correctly and sought the problem?
@jefersonnl3 жыл бұрын
@@oilpond Yeah, he doesn't understand it. And no, I haven't solved the problem. I even built a microcontrolled telemetry unit to measure voltages and currents and log it for months(in fact, it is logging even now, I have millions of rows of data I can go trough and analyze). Nothing came from it. Things are close to ideal conditions and even so, the charger wouldn't turn to float charge mode. I concluded that these cheap chinese charge controllers are just mere voltage regulators. On the web I came across other people having the same issue. It's PWM for sure as it relies on the technology to control voltage, but it is not a true charger. It's only capable of charge stages 1 and 2. Any decent 14.4v power supply plus a high current schottky diode will give you that. Lucky me I drain the battery during the night anyways so it's pretty much hungry for a charge during the day, as it drinks well from the charger as it provides the amps, otherwise I could have lost it to boiling a long time ago. I have a circuit in mind that can do true 3-stage charge of a lead acid battery. One day I'll commit it to a circuit board, right now I'm too busy for that.
@JiMiGj12342 жыл бұрын
hi all, i was wondering if anybody knows if i can keep battery connected at all the time and inverter so i can provide power 2 couple of internet routers 5w each i think, but i don 't know if the solar panel will kick in charging when battery is down or stop charging when is full
@neillroy Жыл бұрын
Mark, thanks for the video. Did you ever find out the real wattage of the flexi panel? . I'm beginning to hate on line sellers
@MrMeltedwellies Жыл бұрын
No it was supposed to be 60w still working fine
@michal13443 жыл бұрын
Pity you Didn’t measure current in Ampers.
@julianashuro9143 жыл бұрын
How much is the kit
@TheIskorpitx Жыл бұрын
I like this video , do you recon this will keep my battery fully charged while parked during winter ?
@MrMeltedwellies Жыл бұрын
So long as you get some sun mine did Petar
@TheIskorpitx Жыл бұрын
@@MrMeltedwellies I’m only worried about cooking my battery as I’m not sure does have a protection of overcharging , if you can advice me will be great as at the moment I have to start my car every day because if I let it sit for 2/3 days the battery goes flat , car was driven 2 months ago for last time :)
@MrMeltedwellies Жыл бұрын
Hi Petar if you have a charge control unit fitted you should be fine as its protects your battery
@frigglebiscuit7484 Жыл бұрын
@@TheIskorpitx the 13.7 it showed when he pressed teh button was the cutoff voltage for the charge controller. it will stop the battery from charging at whatever its set at.
@pierluigicolotto95703 жыл бұрын
With plans from Avasva you can make it really easy.
@gnarly7064 жыл бұрын
I just paid £20 for 60 watts folding panel on ebay.
@MrMeltedwellies4 жыл бұрын
bloody hell Owen send me the link please
@sdfhjjtfkkk67203 жыл бұрын
How many volts is the solar panel?
@MrMeltedwellies3 жыл бұрын
12v 😀
@DAZSAVENTURESINWONDERLAND3 жыл бұрын
get them on ebay for as little as £24 now with the controller
@rexgeorg73243 жыл бұрын
..and 100W .. £20 just for da Panel
@ChristianThomasTring3 жыл бұрын
@@rexgeorg7324 Any links? - I can only see kits for £50+
@rexgeorg73243 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianThomasTring k
@rexgeorg73243 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianThomasTring Wrong time of year
@miguelrivers9626 Жыл бұрын
What about the USB’s ?? Can u take charge from there
@miguelrivers9626 Жыл бұрын
Nvm Didn’t watch all the way 😂 I see it now
@alabamaoutdoors44683 жыл бұрын
Brand of kit and $$
@visarbrestovci90292 жыл бұрын
can the controller be left outdoors in rainy weather
@Legend813a2 жыл бұрын
No. The controller is not water resistant at all.
@twisted_sista_bmccleanmiss60483 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video to show how to set the limits to stop over powering the battery
@MrMeltedwellies3 жыл бұрын
when you fit the charge control unit it does it all for you hope this helps
@twisted_sista_bmccleanmiss60483 жыл бұрын
@@MrMeltedwellies does it?? 🤔🤔 I thought you had to manually adjust it....so that's reassuring to me One more question....would a single electric camping hob be ok to run off it plse? It's 750w with a UK plug Could I take the plug off and hook the wires up to + & -??
@twisted_sista_bmccleanmiss60483 жыл бұрын
Do I need to buy an invertor aswell plse and what would you say is the biggest device or appliance I could use if using a 12v inverter to 4000w plse? I need to buy what's needed ASAP plse so ANY HELP TO A DAMSEL IN DISTRESS would be most appreciated 🙌🏽🙏🏼
@b3owu1f10 ай бұрын
@@twisted_sista_bmccleanmiss6048 The output can power something.. but honestly you'd be best to buy a pure sinewave inverter from Victron, make sure you got good clean output.
@raisagorbachov3 жыл бұрын
That PWM controller is $10 of garbage. Get yourself a good MPPT controller.
@MoviePropandReplicasss Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍🏻But Are these water proof ?
@MrMeltedwellies Жыл бұрын
Yes 100%
@mitsuoo10128 ай бұрын
Hahahaha I run my fridge freezer off a 100wh marine battery. You don't seem to know much about systems but ys running fridge of inverter would kill battery much faster. My Qlpic9ol drews only 45w.
@aftereffects002 жыл бұрын
At least ..its charging :)
@AceDevGames Жыл бұрын
12.6 to 12.7 volt is a fully charged battery if you go over you can start to boil off the lead plates and the battery heats up, best to check you dont over charge the battery, also you can fry the solar box if you connect solar panel without a battery being fitted first.
@jimmybrad156 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps open circuit, but a lead acid battery really wants to be floated at 13.6v to charge properly, and ideally charged to ~14.5v every 6 months. A quick and rough solution would be to use diode/s to drop the voltage ~0.2-0.7v. Schottky diode/s will be a little more precise than say a 1n400x.
@2310phil4 жыл бұрын
price gone up to £55.88 now
@MrMeltedwellies4 жыл бұрын
really crafty sods thanks for watching Mark
@Stephenphillips29UK4 жыл бұрын
£77.88 now
@bainmccartney685 Жыл бұрын
That control sucks. The power output has leaking power and will steady drain your battery completely and possibly ruin it. Test it with some led lights and watch it drain and not charge shit
@orph4nsx5 ай бұрын
How many watts?
@MrMeltedwellies5 ай бұрын
60 watt so they say
@davidbivens22462 жыл бұрын
Ummmm, that didn’t go up one volt let alone 2 volts. You meant to say and write MV (MILLIVOLT) 100 and 200 mv
@jayashkumar594111 ай бұрын
We have used the kzfaq.infoUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
@HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat10 ай бұрын
OK
@kevintabol76423 жыл бұрын
Hey can you get me a botttttlaaa a woootterrr UK lol
@kaikart1233 жыл бұрын
The controller has pretty shitty efficiency, buy a cheap MPPT board like CN3722 or BQ24650 and you're golden
@antomanelven3 жыл бұрын
actually those controllers are pretty much the same efficiency. there are multiple youtube videos on it
@kaikart1233 жыл бұрын
@@antomanelven PWM controller cannot utilize full power of the PV because the current are tied between input and output. If the input is 18v 10A, and the output is set to 13.8v, the output will also has 10A, that's 76% efficiency. Meanwhile an MPPT controller always utilize buck converter, so their efficiency is theoritically 100% but from parasitic loss they'll ended up being in the high 90% efficiency, with the example above if the input has 18v 10A, the output at 13.8v will be 11.73A. With PWM controller, the higher the delta between PV voltage and output voltage, the higher the loss, that's not the case with MPPT until a certain point like at 10% pulse width when the buck converter itself is breaking down in efficiency. And I have not even talking about the PV MPP curve yet.
@antomanelven3 жыл бұрын
doubt
@kaikart1233 жыл бұрын
@@antomanelven you can doubt all you want, that's the reality
@antomanelven3 жыл бұрын
no
@SED05L4 жыл бұрын
wow this was rubbish, where was the TESTING?
@wattage20074 жыл бұрын
He mistook 0.1v for 1v too. Useless.
@rudedog23783 жыл бұрын
who says "rubbish" anymore LoL I bought one , i'll test it in December Post it in 2021, now i'm going to watch Benny Hilll.
@gablia20023 жыл бұрын
hey lets test it and not know what the buttons do...... back to lockdown for you..
@RandomDude9892 жыл бұрын
.2 volt... not 2 volt
@Badg0r Жыл бұрын
What a clumsy video. I see a lot of mistakes being made. But it's good that you've showed the product really does.
@jr53893 жыл бұрын
Its got to come off......✅ 😂😂😂😂 👍👍👍👍🏴🤪
@Ich03083 жыл бұрын
🐦🐦🐦🐦🐦 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🥰🥰🥰🥰
@laryangel4082 Жыл бұрын
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@FranksBmwAdv3 жыл бұрын
12.7 to 12.8 is .01 volt not 1 volt. lol
@pollos41573 жыл бұрын
0.1 V not 0.01 V
@apocsurvival9163 жыл бұрын
@@pollos4157 has it, correcting the correction. Gotta love it!
@lmantuano69862 жыл бұрын
Mate, you got scammed, just do your research and admit it... 1 sqft panel, in ideal sunshine, @15% efficiency - being generous - will give you 15 Watts max..
@TheCrossroads092 жыл бұрын
Dohhh read the instructions first then make a video.
@tonyv89253 жыл бұрын
The bird is louder than you. You sound like you are just mumbling...smh
@alanjackson25407 ай бұрын
Question from a newbie to how solar charging works...if I bought a bigger panel say 600w (same type from AliExpress) with a 100A controller would it charge a battery quicker or would it charge more batteries at the same rate? And would the controller be sufficient? Thank you.