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Testing out the Hybrid Random Roller Craps Betting Strategy with Mrs. Money Shot

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Hawaii Craps Shooters

Hawaii Craps Shooters

Күн бұрын

Watch as we put my Hybrid Random Roller Craps Betting Strategy to the test with no one other than Mrs. Money Shot. We practice daily to see how we can improve our Craps Strategies against the random rollers in the Casinos. Does the Hybrid Craps Strategy work or does it fail going against the random craps roller? Watch and See till the end.
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@iptvclub1575
@iptvclub1575 Жыл бұрын
This would definitely be a good strategy for comps at the casino on a cruise ship. At one point you have $325 on the table! (140+20+165 (quarter pounder)).
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
Right. 👍
@dannyhqt
@dannyhqt 2 жыл бұрын
24:19 winner 4, then 6 is new point. After aces ,hard 6 is winner. Then a 7 is the last roll which is come out
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Oops. My bad. Lol
@johnhaynie2655
@johnhaynie2655 3 жыл бұрын
When u guys go back vegas
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
July 21-25
@fortunatusnine2012
@fortunatusnine2012 2 жыл бұрын
🤔👍
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@christaala615
@christaala615 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one bro how does shooters, shoot without the pass no money on pass line ?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
You can have a don’t pass bet
@christaala615
@christaala615 2 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters I'm new trying to follow your page 😊😊
@tannerbailey5936
@tannerbailey5936 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and strategy!!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tanner. Hope it works out for you as well
@jhonescira4732
@jhonescira4732 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome homie! Great video! A big thank you all the way from Cali!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@jimklemens5018
@jimklemens5018 2 жыл бұрын
What is the vig on a $140 Lay bet on the 10?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
$3
@MARNSTERTV
@MARNSTERTV 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Like that you're showing how the moving parts all come together. Mrs Money Shots a pro!!! Great debut MMS! 👏
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
MMS is a natural. You'll see more of her i'm sure. LOL
@jessegoucher8813
@jessegoucher8813 3 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks for the video - posted it on my blog Jesse
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jesse. Send me the link I’ll check it out
@PianoMan2200
@PianoMan2200 2 жыл бұрын
Please run this system on a $15 table
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll see what I can do. Thanks for watching.
@frontroow
@frontroow 3 жыл бұрын
Mrs. Money Shot started out ... shooting like a Ringer. Fun Video 😆.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Front Roow. It was fun filming with the Wifey.
@nestoz8692
@nestoz8692 2 жыл бұрын
Any way to play this strategy with less money just curious
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can. You can do option $50 with $44 inside and $3 hard 4 and hard 10.
@markadkins9290
@markadkins9290 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this one! I'm new and have been watching a lot of videos, mostly CU. I'm glad I could see you do the quarter pounder. Watched y'all at the Fremont the other day, lots of fun! Mahalo!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Mark
@briangeorge8251
@briangeorge8251 2 жыл бұрын
If the 2,3, or 12 rolls on the come out do you win the lay against the 4? Or does it just not do anything?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t do anything
@garyagunat9823
@garyagunat9823 3 жыл бұрын
Mahalo for another awesome video 🤙
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks YPahu King for your HCS support!
@bobmckee6363
@bobmckee6363 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed she is setting the dice. Not a total random roller. Good video.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bob, MMS is just a newbie and is learning how to set the dice so technically not a controlled shooter yet. LOL
@manacrozier7740
@manacrozier7740 3 жыл бұрын
Great video B! Had a great time laughing with MMS and her short rolls.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Mana
@Golfer-ss6tv
@Golfer-ss6tv 2 жыл бұрын
Love this strategy!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Golfer.
@jimklemens5018
@jimklemens5018 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you saying short roll?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
She’s not hitting the back wall
@roughtrim
@roughtrim 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Vid! Aloha always!!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Roughtrim you da man. Mahalo for your continued support for HCS.
@Yo-vv7vy
@Yo-vv7vy 2 жыл бұрын
If you are on a $15 minimum table would you use the same strategy to get enough quarter pounders and cheese to place 66 inside? Thanks
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
That is an option.
@iptvclub1575
@iptvclub1575 Жыл бұрын
So that would only mean 1 more hit? To get $75
@CrapsHawaii
@CrapsHawaii 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see You and the Mrs Collaborating on shooting a Video. It really helps when you have someone throwing while you narrate and do the payouts. Great job on the explanation and demonstration of the Strategy. 🎲👍
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mel. Yes. So much easier to narrate and to deal. I love it. Lol.
@chefdice
@chefdice 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video mr and mrs money shot!! Use that on the next trip
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chef Dice. Jellyfish is next. Lol
@iptvclub1575
@iptvclub1575 Жыл бұрын
I know you’re shooting to get $50 to go $44 inside and $6 (hardway 4/10). But would it be better to just shoot for the $44 and on the come out put $140 on the lay, $20 on the hard ways, and $5 on turning the 3/1. So in case it does hit, you minimize your loss. But you only make $45 instead of $50 which still allows you to go $44 inside. If a point is made you lose the $5 hop on the easy 4 and win $50 (with two hits to the quarter pounder). Less the $4 on the hop 4 on the come out, and you’re still enough to go $44 inside. With a $1 profit. I would probably do this. 140 lay, $21 on the hard 4, $5 on the 3/1 7 happens = $67 - $21 - $5 = $41 (only $3 of of your own money invested to go $44 inside) Hard 4 happens = $147-$140-5 -$3 vig = -$1 (instead of minus 3) Easy 4 happens = $75-$140-$20 = minus $85 (instead of being down $160) 2/3/11/12 - lose the $5 on the hop Any other number - lose the $5 and go into the quarter pounder and take the risk of the 3/1
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
Can do. Sounds like it would work
@BubbleCrapsChallenge
@BubbleCrapsChallenge 3 жыл бұрын
A win is a win baby!!! Good to see both of you guys on video. Tell her me and Josie say hi:)
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick. The Husband and Wife dual is kinda catchy. LOL
@DioDiDiscovery
@DioDiDiscovery 14 күн бұрын
Was she working the hard 4? If not it didn’t pay.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 13 күн бұрын
Oops. Missed it
@johnnyi2121
@johnnyi2121 3 жыл бұрын
Stick man is a hard a$$ about hitting the back wall..! 🤣😂. Nice video!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
LOL. Better at our home then she getting harassed in the casino right.
@johnnyi2121
@johnnyi2121 3 жыл бұрын
Fact! The old Rivera took the dice from me after missing the wall 1 time. But I did toss five 5/4 nines in a row before that. And I was a little slow getting my dice set. “This is not a game a skill sir!” LOL
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyi2121 LOL. Wow that's brutal taking away the dice with just one warning.
@bryetube86
@bryetube86 Жыл бұрын
Hey Brian. So question about the 1/8 inch thick neoprene you told another guy about. I tried at the hobby lobby you guys suggested and they have scuba knit not scuba cloth and I don’t think it’s neoprene. Any good info on where I can get the exact same stuff you told him about? That ks
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
Hi. If you are working on your mechanics then I don’t recommend practicing on neoprene. Since that video I realized that neoprene gives false results therefore worthless data in analyzing your toss. The only benefit of practicing in neoprene is to adjust the lightness of your toss and the angle. If that is what you are looking for try going to a fabric store
@bryetube86
@bryetube86 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters neoprene mimics the dice behavior best. I have perfected my mechanics. I do this so many times that I almost can’t get it wrong. Neoprene is the closest thing to mimic dice behavior so if i practice on this I’ll be ready when I hit the tables in Vegas. Just need some advice where to get it
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
@@bryetube86 gotcha
@bryetube86
@bryetube86 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters let me ask you this what fabric would you suggest for underlay combined with microfiber overlay? The one that mimics casino the most? Vinyl is not sufficient and neither is closed cell foam
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
@@bryetube86 flanel
@markh8637
@markh8637 3 жыл бұрын
Just recently started following your vids, very informative, great to have the mrs involved, she is using the seven set when coming out though so hardly a random roller but i get the point and she is a good shooter too.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. She’s actually random. A total newbie. Lol
@willygriffith838
@willygriffith838 3 жыл бұрын
So are you going to try this out the next time in Las Vegas
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Let’s see how it goes.
@MrZola1234
@MrZola1234 3 жыл бұрын
I like the strategy, fade the 3-1on the come out, move to a modified cross with a hopping 5, if no 7 on comeout roll. Then, move to a 44 inside with a hard 4 and 10. Given the number of rolls 2 soft 4s and being on the no 4 for 1 is about what you would expect.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@corymatsumiyavivalasvegas8488
@corymatsumiyavivalasvegas8488 3 жыл бұрын
I like it! I just need the bankroll now... Lol! I started using the $66 inside with the $2 hard 4 and 10 this past trip...
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
No need bankroll. Just need markers.
@dalen.8413
@dalen.8413 3 жыл бұрын
On a couple of those rolls, you made the point but kept the disc on. By my calculations you made only $14 on the random rolls. Still a profit, but the random roller didn’t cut into your starting amount. If it wasn’t for that easy four, you’d have over $150 profit. Nicely done video and explanation of your live roll. Thank you for the time you spent making the video
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Oops. Sorry I missed that. It's hard for me to deal and do commentary. LOL Thanks and I'm glad this was informative. Yes, without that easy four hit we would be up $164. SMH but it happens.
@theharriscy
@theharriscy 3 жыл бұрын
Hey HCP! So, for a $15 table, you would just adjust all the bets to 1.5x? like you would lay the 4 for $210 and a $30 hardway on the 4? Then, if no 7 on the come out, you can go $90 on the 6 and 8, $50 field, and hop the fives for $10 each? After that, you go $66 inside and like $5 on the hard 10 and 4. did I get the $$$ right?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Chad you got it perfectly correct. Great job in figuring it out. That’s how I play it on a $15 table.
@theharriscy
@theharriscy 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters thank you bruddah! Mahalo! Hope to shoot with your crew sometime!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@theharriscy We will be in Vegas in September.
@dansearle4728
@dansearle4728 3 жыл бұрын
Another Awesome Video! Thanks for sharing this awesome hybrid! I'll try it the next time I get to a table. One thing you might consider, instead of placing the H4 for $20, you could hop the hard 4 for $5 and it would pay you $150 if it hits and you'd save $15. So if you hit 3 sevens in a row like Mrs. Money Shot did, then you'd save $45...the hop only costing you $15 for three hoppers of the hard 4. Still, I love the hybrid and how you have thought about this and helped you to get through random rollers, as they are everywhere. Thanks again, Aloha!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
You’re right and that’s certainly another option to play the hybrid. I prefer not losing money unless the easy 4 hits. The hops can be a slow drain.
@dansearle4728
@dansearle4728 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Yep, a slow drain but I was referring to the 7's she was rolling in a row...It would have saved you some money. But like you said, if it stays up and you can bring it down before you go to the $44 inside with a $3 4 and 10 and save $20! But I really like your hybrid system and the way you explained it. Your casino videos are worth the wait and are so much fun to watch! Makes me want to jump on a plane and head to Vegas! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us! Mahalo!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@dansearle4728 Thanks Dan. Either which way the strategy will work. Just say no to the easy 4. Lol
@dansearle4728
@dansearle4728 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Yep, it's all good as long as we stay away from the easy 4! I appreciate your response and hope you do well at the Golden Arm Tournament! I played in a tournament about 15 years ago and got the ace of spades and was the first to toss and held the dice for all 20 rolls. I was so nervous but had a lot of fun and met some great people.
@kittisingbut1493
@kittisingbut1493 3 жыл бұрын
the minute of 15:06, she made a point? but still great video, thanks for sharing this
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kitti
@ProCraps
@ProCraps 3 жыл бұрын
Man I love this strategy. 3 rolls where you sweat just a little and then set up for a long run.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
You got it John but on the first roll the probability is in your favor. You really sweat the next two rolls. After that you are stress free and you are set up for a monster rolls after any two rolls after the point. You know that pressing on a monster roll is where true money is made in craps.
@ProCraps
@ProCraps 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters But those next 2 rolls, you're only sweating the 4, really. 7 takes half, but we can all live with that. This strategy is about getting you to opportunity quickly, which is where its at.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProCraps The bonus of the Hybrid is that your set up immediately on a come out seven With your initial investment back in your rack
@ProCraps
@ProCraps 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Didn't MMS hit like 3 or 4 in a row or something? That's 4 free $44 inside power press attempts!
@ProCraps
@ProCraps 3 жыл бұрын
(Don't you love how we've already given her a nickname/initials?)
3 жыл бұрын
As much 7s as I see at the casino I play with I might have to try that lay the 4 bet
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
I've bet you seen plenty Wesley. I know I have. LOL Try it out and let me know how it works out. Thanks
3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters will do! How much do I lat it for on a $100 bankroll?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@ Hard to play a lay with a $100 bankroll on a $15 table. You might as well just pick a side.
@leoabellera9720
@leoabellera9720 3 жыл бұрын
Mahalo for the strategy, and breakdown. Just got home from Reno, only got to play 4 sessions. I played system, had to adjust a little bit, only had a $25 table. I just went up a little on the lay $210, with $30 on the hard 4. Went $110 inside and played the hard 4 and 10 $5 each. I made about $150 each session in about 10 to 15 minutes then quit. Only me on table, so they fed me fast, maybe too fast. Mahalos the video really helped with the bets.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Leo! Great way to tweak your bets. I too use the $210 lay 4 and the $30 hard 4. Works well for me. Great wins! May the dice be nice!
@donniekostar9644
@donniekostar9644 11 ай бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters how do you bet the quarter pounder with ez on a $25 table until you get the 2 hits?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 11 ай бұрын
@@donniekostar9644 bet the same but there is no regression. You can double up on everything and then regress to $110 inside
@donniekostar9644
@donniekostar9644 11 ай бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters So $210 lay and $30 hard. After the come out, do the $165 quarter pounder and keep it all bets there until you have $110? So it would take 4 hits? I am confused by the "you can double up on everything and then regress to $110 inside". I am going to try and avoid the $25 tables, but want a sound strat if I do play them. I appreciate you always being quick to respond.
@sinethglueck2384
@sinethglueck2384 3 жыл бұрын
What dice set did she use ?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
She used the all 7 set and hardway set.
@jimklemens5018
@jimklemens5018 2 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Why did she use that set?
@4rah46
@4rah46 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting take on hybrid play, letting the early profits fuel the bet spread on Randoms. Two variations you might consider are leaving the lay 4 up and then slowly bring it down with place wins. Seemed like a strong play in this session, just thinking of giving some power to the 7. Also, found it interesting that your 4 Hardway hedge losses would have covered the $140 Four Lay loss. Of course, anyone who uses dark side bets to cover place bets, knows there will be pain!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert for your feedback. Slowly taking down the lay makes me Uncomfortable. I like to leave it only up there to do it’s job which it is to only protect my Quarter Pounder investment. After that I’m taking it out of harms way for the casino to get back. Gives me more of a peace of mind and stress free.
@4rah46
@4rah46 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Totally get it Money Shot. Craps should be fun! Take your shots to win and maybe cash in. From my 40+ years at the tables, I have finally come around to a play style that has the dark side protection up front, and the 'Go for it' I have been missing will follow. Use the value of the 7 until the Don't bet covers early play, but when place wins cover the hedge it's on. Good thing is, the shooter is starting to show favored numbers. If he (or SHE) is rolling 5's & 8's, I'm not pressing the 6 & 9. Mix in some regressions after a few misses, keep those chips going to your rack, and Good Luck!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@4rah46 Robert you are a smart player. You have the right mindset. Keep winning at the tables and may the dice be nice!
@dagored6863
@dagored6863 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters Hi Bryan just watched this video today nice strat, props to you and Hazel. But you seem to very vulenerable after the point is made. You have the lay bet of 140 which pays 67 after vig with the 6 and 8 at 60 each plus field bet of 35 and hopping 5s at 10 and also hard 4 at 20 you have 185 at risk for 2 rolls and with prevalance of POS this is very risky did you ever update this video to cover this hole?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
@@dagored6863 I haven't visited this strategy for awhile. Been working on my newest strategy "The Light switch"
@demondgladden937
@demondgladden937 3 жыл бұрын
Wass up it’s Philly
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
What’s up Philly!
@alyssadiceflipper5201
@alyssadiceflipper5201 3 жыл бұрын
Hazel and I need to go to Vegas~ I need to do this strategy next time.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s do it!
@alyssadiceflipper5201
@alyssadiceflipper5201 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters No kids of course. You boys need to stay home with the kiddos! LOL
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@alyssadiceflipper5201 lol
@mikeriley9540
@mikeriley9540 3 жыл бұрын
You say in the video that you are going to do another video of Mrs. Money Shot's aggressive betting when she is the shooter. When do you think that video will come out?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe in a few weeks. It’s in the que. 👍
@cheepono55
@cheepono55 3 жыл бұрын
What would be the minimum or appropriate bank roll to play this?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
At least $700
@sovereignstacker5090
@sovereignstacker5090 3 жыл бұрын
I would be on that BIG RED bet over that hard 4 all day of a craps bet or a world bet
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a good bet too but when any other number rolls the Big red falls and not the hard 4
@shahmatsimplex4144
@shahmatsimplex4144 3 жыл бұрын
Random roller ? LOL. More like Hawaiis greatest dice sniper.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Mrs MS is a fast learner. Lol
@joelepe2507
@joelepe2507 3 жыл бұрын
The unfortunate thing right now is you can't find a $5 or even a $10 craps game downtown. All the table minimums are up as casinos are trying to generate the lost revenue from the pandemic. The cheapest table downtown was $15. So you'll have to show up with a larger bankroll to survive. I did find a $10 table at Green Valley Ranch this last trip 3 weeks ago. GVR is located in Henderson, NV. 18.5 miles from downtown Vegas. But unfortunately they're not part of the Boyd Gaming group of casinos. So you won't add any points towards your B-Connected card. As GVR is under the Station Casinos umbrella. Their casinos definitely have more of a locals crowd than the average casino downtown or the strip. The 2 Boyd properties that I see are a locals joint are Suncoast and Sam's Town. I can go to a bunch of different casinos and I don't know why. But when I go to the Cal or Main Street. It just feels like home to me. (Main Street is still closed) And this is coming from a howly.
@adrian1271
@adrian1271 3 жыл бұрын
When is main street opening... Or is it closed forever.. is that true about no $10 tables.. I mean not having $5 was bad enough.. I went 2 months ago
@joelepe2507
@joelepe2507 3 жыл бұрын
@@adrian1271 My wife has a family member who works at the Cal. She told us if everything goes well with restrictions being lifted and the level of tourism returning to normal levels. Maybe by September Main Street will reopen. One could only hope that we can return to normal life.
@adrian1271
@adrian1271 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe, for that insight. I love Main Street Station casino, its my favorite casino in Vegas.. The dealers are all super nice and remember you. I just find it super strange, that it has been closed since the shut down. I went up the second night Circa opened, then i've been up there twice more afterwards staying at the Downtown Grand. Each time seeing MSS closed, and each time seeing more and more people down at Fremont. Do they really rely so much on the Hawaiian clientele that much. Hope it opens soon, miss the crap tables.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
You’re right. It looks like $15 is the norm and unless people stop playing at that level it probably will stay that way. I have heard that Main Street Station will be reopening in November in time for the UH UNLV football game. We will just have to wait and see.
@adrian1271
@adrian1271 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters thats crazy.. i mean if i want to play now if i play the flat $15, and they are offering 10 time odds.. that means i got to go to $150.. i mean it could go good or bad depending on the table.. but that means you have to have a super big bank.. but i guess thats gambling.. So much has changed with the Cal, and Main Street.. my friend who is japanese first introduced me to the area.. we would go to the cal deli, and id get chicken katsu.. now thats gone.. i remember hawaiians using coupons to take snacks back home lol At the Cal, the sportsbook on the second floor was so old school they had school type desks to work on ur bets.. now they have the fancy sportsbook downstairs.. MSS has stayed the same and i hope when and if it does open it stays the same.. miss triple 7s.. the rooms at MSS could use a remodel
@tedberry1969
@tedberry1969 3 жыл бұрын
Had a pretty good hand going and just got done rolling 4 4's problem was I laid the 4 for 200 - put 5 on the any C, 2 on the E - 20 on the All Day 4 - freaking rolled an easy 4 - (weary) - ended up getting that point - playing a doey don't (didn't do a lay) and the next point was 10 - put 150 for odds on the Don't pass put 20 on the all day 10 - freaking easy 10 - SOB (headbang) - I got killed today, kept on hitting my lay the easy way
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Damn. What set was producing those easy 4's and 10's?
@tedberry1969
@tedberry1969 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters I was using the 1/2 2/1 - so 1 of the dice kept going off axis
@Roll2Win
@Roll2Win 3 жыл бұрын
She might be the best shooter ? lol
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Ed. Mrs MS just might be. She’s putting in the practice now. 👍
@Roll2Win
@Roll2Win 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters I wouldn't bet against her
@jmwdesignllcanthonyllamas9892
@jmwdesignllcanthonyllamas9892 3 жыл бұрын
Hello HCS. I have a practice rig at home and tried this strategy and I am killing it. It makes mathematical sense. Question, what happens when you make your 2 hits, take everything off the table, have a small profit, place bets with the casinos money, and the shooter makes the point? Do we lay the 4 again with a bet on the hard 4? Or do we leave our bets there? Do we need to hedge the casinos money on a new come out? Thanks again, you put fun and excitement back into Craps. It's not a chore to make money
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Anthony. I love when I hear viewers make money with my strategy. After I get my two hits and I set up my foundation it’s to the moon from there. No more lay bets or hedging the casino money it’s just half pressing each number and riding the shooters wave. You don’t want to put out another lay and give the casino another chance to win your money. You’re playing with casino money. Let them try to win that back and in the meantime just make as much money as you can for the rest of the roll. 👍
@FijianGaming
@FijianGaming 3 жыл бұрын
On a $15 table would you try hitting the quarter pounder 3 times and then go $66 inside. Or still take the 2 hits and then risk $16 on the shooter. $20 if you want $2 hard 4,10?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
It depends on your confidence in the shooter. On a $15 table I lay the 4 for $210 and place the Hardway for $30 then play $50 on the 5 and then $60 on the 6 and 8 each and then $35 on the field. Take two hits and then go $66 inside with $2 each on hardway 4 and Hardway 10
@FijianGaming
@FijianGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters so would you also increase starting bankroll. I Usually always play at $15 table. Hard to find $10 anymore. And my starting bankroll is usually $1,000.
@jimklemens5018
@jimklemens5018 3 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't she bet $50 Don't Pass and $100 Lay 4 on the come out roll?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimklemens5018 You can lose now both on an 11 or a 4. You would increase your probable loss from just 5% to %13 percent which is almost as close to the 7 probability of 16.6% percent.
@jimklemens5018
@jimklemens5018 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters If you roll an 11, only the Don't Pass bet would lose. If you roll a 4 and lose the Lay bet, you simply lay odds on your Don't Pass bet for $200.
@RickyDigits505
@RickyDigits505 3 жыл бұрын
How is she a random roller when she is setting the dice? I feel like random roller means something completely different too you than the term means in craps...
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Many people disagree and say that even if you set the dice you are still random. Go figure. Lol
@RickyDigits505
@RickyDigits505 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters how is that? There would be no term random roller if that was the case because there would be no difference between the 2
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@RickyDigits505 Ricky. You would be the perfect person to debate against those guys who feel that dice control doesn’t exist.
@RickyDigits505
@RickyDigits505 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters hard to refute when its put like that lol! Anyway terminology aside I like this strategy and next time I am at the casino without small money I will probably give this a shot! Personally on a 15$ min table I bring 400-500$ and play the 6/8 for 15$ with a 15$ field. I run the field 3x or give it up...if it hits I use that to cover my 5/9 and go from there.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@RickyDigits505 smart strategy. I like the hybrid because you are always set up for a monster roll whenever it comes.
@nerd-workshop
@nerd-workshop 3 жыл бұрын
Not really random shooter if she is tossing All-7s on the come out, but like the video.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll have her shakem up like a true random next time. She’s just a newbie so not really a dice controller. Lol
@Rob.squarepair
@Rob.squarepair 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! How fun just playing with the wife!!! Don't kick her to the kiddie table though🤣🤣. I would leave the lay 4 out on random shooters...didn't look like they made a single point...and only one 3/1....
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Thanks Rob. Don't worry, I would never kick her to the Kiddie table or she would kick me to the couch. LOL Yes leaving the lay 4 out is an option.
@sophiethesloth
@sophiethesloth 2 жыл бұрын
thats solid rolling,wouldnt say random thats some good form lol ,great video
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah she got a lot of heat on not being a random. LOL
@MrZola1234
@MrZola1234 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting opening thoughts on hedging systems, I'd say the point of hedging systems actually risk less per roll and therefore require less bankroll rather than more, despite having more money out on the felt.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
True
@adrian1271
@adrian1271 3 жыл бұрын
ok, i was watching your video.. and i think my system would have made a bit more money.. heres how.. you play the pass line with 3 come bets.. so 4 numbers rolling max.. also the last roll #5 you marked the 4 as the point she hit it again so the next number which was a 6 became the point. she hit that later, so when she rolled the 7 at the end there was no point.. in my system i would have lost the number 10,4 and 8 but i would have got my odds back.. profitting about $420 with a $10 pass, and $50 odds
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. That would work as well. But the only thing about come bet progression strategies is that it’s difficult to press up when a monster roll comes.
@dalemoore7911
@dalemoore7911 3 жыл бұрын
Can you modify this for a $15 table? No $10 tables near me. Went to Casino Quest and met Alex. Good guy! Thanks
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dale, I do have a set up for a $15 table. I'll try and make a video on it.
@dalemoore7911
@dalemoore7911 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters thanks!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@dalemoore7911 You're welcome.
@jimklemens5018
@jimklemens5018 2 жыл бұрын
Ummm... scale your bets.
@carlslv7
@carlslv7 3 жыл бұрын
Chee! Aunty can throw dice
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Mrs MS just started and is learning quickly. Lol
3 жыл бұрын
Shit i would have lost over half of my 1000 on randoms. Nice strategy!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
I did too. LOL
@56Long21
@56Long21 3 жыл бұрын
Nice try and having some luck, too. However, as must be pointed out: Every hedge combines two or more casino advantage bets rolled into one scheme. You're limiting one bet by hedging with others and the casino loves you. These schemes are always afraid to just take the straight bet.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Your absolutely right Dave. There’s a hole in every strategy in Craps.
@chetherron9566
@chetherron9566 3 жыл бұрын
If I handed my wife a $1000 in chips, she would head right to the cashiers cage lol
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Not Mrs. $ Shot. She will take the $1K and try to make $5K with it. LOL
@tedtokumine8600
@tedtokumine8600 3 жыл бұрын
My first time playing n table with Mrs Moneyshot in Vegas ..I made good money just love your video’s Thankyou again
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@tedtokumine8600 Aloha Ted. It was great to see you at Orleans. It was fun
@victordelmastro8264
@victordelmastro8264 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It's nice to see how she uses the hardways set during play. All 7's on the comeout, hardways for the rest. She switched to S6s.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
She is experimenting with all the sets. Lol
@tinaraebritt9514
@tinaraebritt9514 3 жыл бұрын
You owe her for the juice. When you take her 140 lay 4 down.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Only if she paid the juice up front.
@tinaraebritt9514
@tinaraebritt9514 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters you pay the juice up front ,yes. But the 7 did not roll. She took the lay 140 down. You owe her for the juice back. If she ask to take the bet down before 7 hits. Next time you come to Vegas , if you say 102 no 4. And a 7 doesn’t roll. You ask to take it down , the dealer will give you back 102.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@tinaraebritt9514 Hi Tina, When she layed the 4 for $140 I did not take any upfront vig from her.
@PYANAGAWA1
@PYANAGAWA1 3 жыл бұрын
Why no hop the easy 4 1x on the come out for $10 to cover. Small insurance to cover the potential $160 loss.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Only going leave you with a negative if no hit
@PYANAGAWA1
@PYANAGAWA1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that’s what insurance is for. Adding the $10 easy 4 hop gives you $150 if it actually rolls, like what happened to Hazel toward the end. Would cover your big loss of the lay 4. When you hop the 5, on the QP it’s like “insurance” in case the 5 rolls. You could say the same for not adding the $10 on the hop 5 to save $10
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@PYANAGAWA1 Hopping the 5’s is different from hopping the 4’s. Hopping the 5’s is not insurance but rather getting the same result of covering the 5 in the iron cross and getting the same pay out but with less exposure. Hopping the 4’s is a slow drain especially when the the frequency of it coming is at a very low 5%. I hope that makes sense.
@PYANAGAWA1
@PYANAGAWA1 3 жыл бұрын
Bryan, I understand that the hopping 5s completes the iron cross. When I say the 5 hop is “insurance”, I am talking about it conceptually. Any hopping bet is lost if it doesn’t hit. If you don’t hop the 5s, and it rolls, you lose the field. But if the other numbers roll, you win $10 more. You play the hopping 5s for two hits. If you only play the easy 4 for $10 twice, you won’t lose the full $160 on the lay 4 and the hard 4. To me it’s worth betting $10 twice to not lose that lay.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@PYANAGAWA1 I hear ya, but the hopping 5 is built in the expected win. The Hopping 4's is not.
@crapscowboy777
@crapscowboy777 Жыл бұрын
She shooting so she needs a pass or don’t pass bet
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters Жыл бұрын
You are correct.
@warbaby4514
@warbaby4514 3 жыл бұрын
You want random rollers?...bring in the Yahtzee players & lawn bowlers. I like the strategy and will give it a try next time MS. Have the Mrs. pump some iron so she can get those dice to the end of table...lol
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
LOL. Yes, try it out and let me know how it works for you. I'll tell the Mrs to pump some iron. LOL.
@warbaby4514
@warbaby4514 3 жыл бұрын
I out of lockdown now...should be in Vegas in two weeks.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@warbaby4514 Nice. Good luck Warbaby. May the Dice be Nice!
@mjm1012
@mjm1012 3 жыл бұрын
Nice table Bryan🌈👏👍🤙🤑
@mjm1012
@mjm1012 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to add that Mrs. Money shot needs a pass line bet LOL😅😁👍
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@mjm1012 Lol no need. She’s betting on a random remember. She’s not actually the shooter.
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mel
@mjm1012
@mjm1012 3 жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiCrapsShooters My bad 🤙
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
@@mjm1012 🤙🏾
@perconta23
@perconta23 3 жыл бұрын
well after the point is marked if 7 was rolled you get paid $67 for the LAY but You will loose $-120 on the 6 & 8 and $-20 hard four and $-10 on 2way five and $-35 field its $185 total thats a loss of $ -118 ouch!
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you are correct. A PSO will wipe out any “Do Side” strategy.
@pablofonseca13411
@pablofonseca13411 3 жыл бұрын
That is crazy... not even worth the time for that.. if she added hard ways.. she would have been ahead for at least another 300 to 400
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pablo for your feedback. If you add hardways to any strategy then someone would be ahead. The hardways are another layer to this strategy. In this video I only was trying to explain the foundation for simplicity sakes. We could add on many prop bets but that would just make it more complicated.
@koldwater6053
@koldwater6053 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t you need to have money on the pass or don’t?
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Only if you are the shooter.
@pablofonseca13411
@pablofonseca13411 3 жыл бұрын
Terrible way to make money...
@HawaiiCrapsShooters
@HawaiiCrapsShooters 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Pablo, I am sorry you feel that way. I would be interested in your best strategy that you use and would be happy to try it out. I am learning myself everyday. Thanks in advance.
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